The debate would have been more relevant, quite frankly, if the moderators had stripped to their bare asses and pissed on the candidates, the audience, and TV viewers. Because that's really what's it's analogous to.
These guys think that THEY are the news. The idea that reporters or any moderators of a debate are there to report, not interpret, or "drive" the news.
Shitbags.
Didn't watch, but from what I've heard, read, this 'debate' was a new, embarrassing low for what passes for Big Media. Of course, if you believe that deliberately focusing on trivia is the basic rationale for the MilitaryIndustrialSecurityMediaComplex (rather than discussion of real, important issues that affect daily life across the globe)...... sounds like ABC scored big time with their paymasters.
Throughout, I was waiting for Obama to just say, "Screw this" and leave.
During that whole fiasco, I was hoping (against hope) that BHO would have the audacity to just sound off, tell those turds to step off, and then just walk out.
Of course, then he'd be "quitter" Barack. But boy howdy, would the "bitter ones" (also known as the downtrodden non-voters because what does it matter any more anyways when 98% of incumbants win?), I think they would have loved it!
I know I would have!
F the F'ing news media millionaires and the networks they use. Pox on them all.
ServingPatriot
Shorter ABC "News" team: "How dares u critasize us? We graduated from first grade and we ain't got ta take shit from nobodiez!"
Thanks for mentioning Path to 9/11. Am I the only one still boycotting ABC because of this? What on earth would anyone expect from ABC? One definition of insanity is obsessively repeating damaging behavior while continually expecting different results. The candidates' error was agreeing to debate on a known biased venue.
not to scale, sadly though a disney fan, my boycott post path to 9/11 includes the magic kingdom as well. :-(
Fuck you; Stephanopolos. It was a full-on hatchet job on Obama, and 1/3rd of a hatchet job on Hillary.
A "debate" by, for, and of, the shitbirds that are in process of ruining our country.
I think a good measure of blame has to fall on the campaigns for putting up this shit. It's not like this was the first debate of the year. Every single damn time they get some top media type to moderate they go off on these ego tangents. Whether it's Timmy or Steph.
What the hell happened to having the League of Woman voters moderate the debates with a panel of serious reporters...serious print reporters asking the questions?
I blame the campaigns for agreeing to this.
Obama and Clinton could put together a serious debate if they wanted. They could get top moderators. And it would be televised. Perhaps not on ABC but PBS or C-Span. I'm sure PBS would be happy to show debates. And heck, C-span would certainly do it. About as many homes get C-Span as get MSNBC.
I saw Contessa Brewer defending the debate several times on MSNBC today. And that's about all you need to hear about it to know it was an exercise in dumbass nonsense.
What I wrote to a great pal of mine:
After having listened to it yesterday on the internet stream, and read a bit about
it today, my only thoughts are (aside from the obvious GOSSIP WASTELAND THAT IT WAS) that
Obama missed the chance of a life time.
Had he early on within 15 minutes come out and called Charlie N Steph on the lame
questions and topics he woulda won the entire planet in a swoop.
"Is this all this evening is going to be about gentlemen? Town hall gossip fit for
the likes of tabloids?
Is the the BEST that a major media outlet can do to bring THE ISSUES to the deserving
people of PA and The United States Of America?
I will no longer respond to your questions if this all this evening's going to be about
becuase the citizens I'm asking to vote for me deserve better, and so do those who may be
voting for Senator Clinton (gotta factor some victimhood in here for the Shill too, ya
know).
I grant my time to Senator Clinton is she chooses to use it (put the nexus ON that
beyotch!) and I will not respond to HER comments in regards to the likes of this type of
questioning.
I'm prepared at this moment, however, to tell YOU two gentlemen, the people of
Pennsylvania and the people of the United States what I think are the issues, and what I
will do about them. I'm sure Senator Clinton is ALSO prepared to do so if she chooses.
Then we could talk about the REAL differences between our vision for our nations future.
What shall it be gentlemen, more pandering to the tabloids, or some real old school
political debating?"
Course, Obama missed it, didn't he? He woulda won the primary AND the General in one
statement on Network TV, while handing the MSM a big shove it up yer ass ya bumfucks and
forever perhaps, changed the course of how the MSM handles coverage of the election
process. THAT change would of course, come about by the HUGE pressure of the general
masses who would have stood up and roared while Obama was making his point.
Chance of a lifetime, swept under the kleig lights of the 1%. Forever lost.
Pass the 'shine.
It was good to come back and read some familiar handles. I was over at Sadly, No! and a tiny food thread began. Immediately I thought of Steve and went to town. I've got a few specialties fer y'all. Anything's better than dealing with the idiocy of the current state of affairs.
Vietnamese fondue:
For the wrap:
2 lb well trimmed round steak
1 head romaine lettuce
1 package rice paper
1 bunch mint
For the broth:
250 ml rice vinegar
500 ml beef broth
1 tbsp chopped garlic.
2 tbsp slivered pickled ginger
1/4 cup shredded lemongrass
1 bunch green onion (scallion)-whites chopped thinly and long greens set aside.
Freeze beef round for 2 hours. Slice paper thin and set aside in fridge.
Fry garlic, ginger, lemongrass and onion in a little oil in the bottom of a fondue pot until garlic and onion are brown. Add vinegar and broth and bring to a boil.
Prepare wraps with a sheet of rice paper topped with a lettuce leaf. Swish beef in boiling broth with chopsticks or fondue fork. Place beef atop lettuce leaf, add mint and long onion greens to taste and roll tightly. Serve with sriracha hot sauce, hoisin sauce, nuoc cham and any other Asian favorite for dipping. Local custom calls for anchovy and pineapple. This is at the diner’s discretion. Serves 4-6. Serve with “33″ beer and cold sake.
went to town. I've got a few specialties fer y'all. Anything's better than dealing with the idiocy of the current state of affairs.
Vietnamese fondue:
For the wrap:
2 lb well trimmed round steak
1 head romaine lettuce
1 package rice paper
1 bunch mint
For the broth:
250 ml rice vinegar
500 ml beef broth
1 tbsp chopped garlic.
2 tbsp slivered pickled ginger
1/4 cup shredded lemongrass
1 bunch green onion (scallion)-whites chopped thinly and long greens set aside.
Freeze beef round for 2 hours. Slice paper thin and set aside in fridge.
Fry garlic, ginger, lemongrass and onion in a little oil in the bottom of a fondue pot until garlic and onion are brown. Add vinegar and broth and bring to a boil.
Prepare wraps with a sheet of rice paper topped with a lettuce leaf. Swish beef in boiling broth with chopsticks or fondue fork. Place beef atop lettuce leaf, add mint and long onion greens to taste and roll tightly. Serve with sriracha hot sauce, hoisin sauce, nuoc cham and any other Asian favorite for dipping. Local custom calls for anchovy and pineapple. This is at the diner’s discretion. Serves 4-6. Serve with “33″ beer and cold sake.
Vietnamese Braised Pork Belly:
3 tablespoons oil
4 tablespoons sugar
3 garlic cloves, slivered
2 shallots, slivered
2 tablespoons peeled, slivered fresh ginger
1 1/2 to 2 pounds pork belly
1/3 to 1/2 cup soy sauce
12 ounces fresh or frozen coconut water
4 hard-cooked eggs, quartered
In a thick-walled 1 1/2- to 2-quart pan, heat the oil and add the sugar, stirring until the sugar melts. Cook until the sugar turns a light brown and caramelizes. Add the garlic, shallots and ginger. They will sizzle. Stir and cook for 1 minute.
Over high heat, add the pork belly and stir. Add the soy sauce and coconut water. The liquid should barely cover the pieces of pork. Add water if necessary. Bring to a boil, add the eggs, cover and cook on medium heat for 35 to 45 minutes.
Remove lid and cook until liquid is reduced to about 1 cup, or comes up about one third of the way on the pork. Serve warm. Serves 6 to 8. Serve with chilled red wine.
Rillettes:
2 lb Pork belly cubed- 2 inch
1 pinch Black pepper
1 lb Pork shoulder cubed- 2 inch
1 lb Pork fat sliced
4 cups Water
1 Bouquet garni–consisting of…
1 bay leaf
3 sprigs thyme
4 large sprigs parsley (including stalks)
10 cm (4 inch) piece celery stalked with leaves
two 10 cm (4 inch) pieces leek (green part)
1 tsp Salt
Bind tightly with string
Place pork belly and shoulder in heavy-bottomed pot. Add the water and the bouquet garni and cook over low heat; stirring occasionally. After 6 hours, stir in the salt and pepper and remove from the heat. Remove the bouquet garni.
Once the meat is cool enough to handle, transfer it to the mixing bowl and, using the forks, shred the meat, taking care to preserve the natural filament- meaning you want shreds-not mush.
Next, divide the mixture into the several small containers. Top each portion with a slice or two of the pork fat to completely cover it, fold the mixture together a bit, then wrap each container with the plastic wrap and place in the refrigerator and let them sit for 3 days before serving.
Service: scoop some out into some artful shape and garnish with toasted baguette rounds and cornichons, pickled pearl onions and a super cold dry white wine. Oh, baby. Got this idea from the book “Salt” by Mark Kurlansky. Remarkable stuff.
Spicy Stuffed Boneless Pork Loin:
Part one:
3 lb boneless pork loin, split.
1 tbsp olive oil, 1 tsp sea salt, 1 tsp red pepper flakes to coat.
Stuffing:
1 loaf day old bread
4 tbsp olive oil
1 lb diced pancetta
2 diced plum tomatoes
1 tbsp red pepper flakes
1/4 cup fresh shredded basil leaf
2 tbsp garlic
1/4 cup diced red onion
Fry pancetta over medium heat until brown. Let cool and set aside.
Break bread into small pieces. Add olive oil, diced tomato and red pepper flakes, mix thoroughly and let sit 1 hour. Add pancetta, basil, garlic and onion., mix thoroughly and let sit overnight unrefrigerated.
Stuff split loin with stuffing mixture. Coat outside with olive oil then sea salt and red pepper flakes from part one. Tie at least four times with string tightly.
Bake at 375 for 45 minutes, remove and let sit for 10 minutes covered with aluminum foil.
Serve with fresh shaved parmiggiano reggiano, romaine salad and a nice chianti. Serves 6-8.
Hope you enjoy.
Oops--reposted the Vietnamese fondue twice. They're all good, cheap dishes. Lord knows we're going to need them...
"Someone should have stopped the debate. The should have interrupted the debate right in the middle and explained to Charlie and George what a debate is, and that they were hurting America."
Agreed, but despite Obama's signs of exasperation, all the candidates are still a little leery of bucking the Boomer BS Machine. Larue is correct, thoug: if one of them has the guts to do it (which leaves us with the one with the inclination to do so), he'll find himself with a landslide victory in November.
Educated voters don't have to be scared. They can set the tone and STOP WATCHING ABC NEWS. Now. I want the ratings on their election-night coverage to be worse than the Cartoon Network's (Cartoon Network would do a better job anyway).
Hillary and Obama should have walked off the stage.
Note to George and Charlie:
Fuck you, you fucking fuckers!
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