Oh boy does this piss me off. I've been losing faith in the medical profession in recent years, and this throws gasoline on the flames of my distrust. (Sorry, I wish I could think of a better metaphor.)
I hope the woman gets triple damages...from the doctor AND the school.
This is abominable!
Sue their asses. Let them understand how it feels to be (at least financially) f&*&ed.
I hope she raises hell and buries assholes with this one. And there are plenty of assholes in this story to bury. Attaboy to the friends that got her out of there and tried to get her help.
(Sorry, I wish I could think of a better metaphor.)
How about "adds gallons of Miracle-Gro solution to the weeds of your disdain"?
I once saw a movie called The Rules of Attraction that I thought was stupid because people, even young people, generally aren't that fucked up, and the script seemed to have been written by a miserably angry person. One seen in particular that made me think it was dumb was in a hospital where some spazzy kid thinks he's going to die from drinking a whole bottle of cough medicine in a pathetic suicide attempt, and the doctor in that scene behaves very unprofessionally to say the least. But now I wonder if that scene might have been closer to the truth than I would like to admit.
My disdain for the medical community has LONG been festering. This is just a horrible story.
What I don't get is this: When a drunk person walks into a hospital complaining of a sexual assault less than an hour earlier, wouldn't you consider the victim's intoxication to be corroborating evidence? In other words, doesn't common sense tell you that a drunk person is more likely to be sexually assaulted than a sober person? I mean, if you were a doctor and a drunk stumbled into the ER and said he'd just been hit by a car while crossing the street, or had just been mugged, you would think, "Yeah, that sounds likely."
So we have an intoxicated, puking, possibly belligerent woman walking into an ER, saying that she's been slipped a micky and raped -- and the doctor and the cops don't take it at face value? There has to be something else to this story, just has to be.
Should we lay some of the blame on the woman who falsely accused those Duke students of rape?
And aren't ER doctors trained to look for date rape drugs?
If not, this seems to be a major hole in their education.
Should we lay some of the blame on the woman who falsely accused those Duke students of rape?
Absolutely not! Because the cases are separate so far as an observer in a medical emergency room ought to be concerned. Their job is to examine and gather any evidence that might appear, not stand around saying, "Oh, it's just another lying ***" without even fucking checking. If examination showed no evidence, that would be another matter.
Parenthetically, do we know the Duke allegations to have been false, or were they simply not corroborated (which is not the same thing)? The latter would be enough to acquit the men, and might conceivably be enough to get the prosecutor into hot water, since he was the one who was supposed to evaluate evidence.
"Should we lay some of the blame on the woman who falsely accused those Duke students of rape?"
-NO.
One has nothing to do with the other.
I worked in Health Care for many years. Doctors have a professional obligation to at least nominally believe a person who wanders in, and says "X happened." Anything else is a violation of their oath and medical ethics. Possibly a serious violation of the law as well.
Looks like a few Doctors are about to get their own asses handed to them on a platter.
Rightfully so.
Hneesus H. J. Spaghetti Monster!
Didn't these half-wits know that to have sex with someone who is incompetent to give consent- which would include someone who is intoxicated, irrespective of how the drugs or alcohol got into her body in the first place- is by definition rape?
If someone goes to an emergency room saying that she believes she was raped while incapacitated, trying to establish the facts by examining the physical evidence should be a no-brainer for anyone whose ability to reason is still functioning.
Also, if someone goes to an emergency room saying that she thinks she's been dosed, testing to find out how much of what is in her system should also be a no-brainer. The synergies of some drugs and alcohol being what they are, taking such action could be life-saving.
These people utterly failed in performing their duty as physicians.
Drifting in and out of conciousness while vomiting is, in itself, a reason to be seen at an ER whatever the cause.
Q is right, there's got to be something more here. Given the state of the "health Care" industry, I'm not surprised by their complete lack of response. I bet she didn't have insurance either and that played into this "decision" on their part. "Blame the patient" has long been the norm in my view and personal experience and I HAVE insurance. I hate that this lack of response to her reported rape and obvious need for medical assistance doesn't surprise me.
The cops refusing to respond is equally troubling. Actually, that would be the third "fucked". Three times, not two.
i sincerely hope that she finds the greediest, slimiest, money grubbingest lawyers who will rat fuck these doctors, this hospital, those cops, that whole goddamned city.
one of my oldest friends from high school is a personal injury lawyer in phoenix. his courtroom nickname is "mongo" and he didn't get it from playing pattycakes. a good attorney will make them pay, and make it hurt.
a good attorney will make them pay, and make it hurt.
I had dinner Tuesday night with some North Carolinians whom I do business with (and don't want to argue with -- not because it would reduce my income [it wouldn't] but because I'm a reporter and I'm careful who I discuss my liberal leanings with) and two of them went on a rant about The Evil John Edwards. He has no class, he's an amublance chaser, and so on.
Edwards's greatest sin, in their eyes, is that he made a fortune by successfully suing a company that made pool equipment that sucked a little girl's intestines out of her anus. Oh, what a scumbag, to make a fortune off a little girl's misery, they said. I didn't exactly seethe -- I felt sorry for people who are so damn clueless as to feel sympathy for the executives who made their fortunes from selling pool equipment that sucked a little girl's intestines out.
Preaching to the choir here, I know, but tort lawyers are our friends. The doctors, and the hospital, and the cops who rejected this woman -- they'll learn their lesson if the woman files suit, and their colleagues will learn, too.
It's not surprising that a country that cheerleads torture at Guantanamo would generate doctors who feel no empathy for a rape victim.
I read some BS about how they said can't give a rape test to someone drunk, because the person would be incapable of giving legal consent. But if that's true, then she would also be incapable of giving legal consent to sex, so if she had intercouse, it was rape.
Besides, they (and the cops) turned her away the next morning, too, so that excuse doesn't wash, either.
That young woman is going to become very, very rich, I think.
A very rich raped woman is a raped woman none the less. The problem with the date rape drugging is that the memory returns in flickers and some parts of it not at all. Little blank spots. The best the $ can do for her is give her the time its going to take to deal with this. Moving forward with her suit(s) is her only hope of not remaining a victim. The action itself is worth more than the money really. I hope she does take all their money because surely that's all they understand. Though, I doubt they would ever get just why what they did was wrong.
I looked up this doctor who was named, Dr. Christopher Lang, and here's his bio from the GW's private physician's group called "Global Executive Health Services":
Dr. Lang is an Emergency Physician at the George Washington University Hospital. He completed his internship at the National Naval Medical Center and Emergency Medicine Residency at George Washington University. He has experience as a [sic] both a Flight Surgeon and ER physician with a focus on remote and on-site medical care. His interests include travel/tourism medicine and disaster preparedness.
Here's the link (pdf file): http://www.gwdocs.com/MungoBlobs...ary%
20Sheet.pdf
I hope this young woman can sue the people involved for everything they've got.
But I fear, instead, what will happen is she will work very hard to disappear.
Our hopes for justice demand much courage and fortitude from a 19 year old who's just been horribly and repeatedly violated.
Bottom line: Who does she now trust? Who CAN she trust?
The other issue with this is Howard University's hospital. This is the same one that gained notoriety when the ER dismissed David Rosenbaum, a retired NY Times reporter, as a drunk instead of injured from a mugging. He died of his head injuries because no one, from the paramedics to the Howard ER crew, gave him proper care.
They seem to be pretty dismissive of "drunks," don't they?
Isn
’t the mere report of a rape enough reason to believe a crime happened? I was always under the impression that the police needed to follow up any report given to them.
This event has shocked me to my core. The treatment the young lady got was absolutely dreadful and I hope that she is getting some help. All the men involved should be doused in petrol, forks stuck in their eyes, a door jam stuck up their bastard arses and set alight.
There are no enough words to describe how strongly I feel for this young lady.
Sue - UK
The treatment this young lady received is the same treatment most young women encounter when they report a rape. Visit www.uvavictimsofrape.com for a detailed look at how our prestigious universities handle rape cases.
I just read this post. Makes me sad. I know the feeling all too well.
I just need to vent something this guy I met online named Chris Cooper using the name brandsurgeon took me on a date and basically raped me. I don't know if anyone knows him but now I think I might be pregnant by him. He told me he had a girlfriend and he doesn't want to see me anymore. Can someone give me advice?
do we have to say fucked in her ass....a little crass. was looking for a little guidance cuz im in the same situation and now i just want to kill myself. thanks men.
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