is she by any chance related to republican taft of ohio?
Thanks, Maggie. I guess I haven't been on any email list or blog that advocates that Hillary supporters vote for McPalin. But I believe you. I find it shocking, self loathing and degrading for any feminist, male or female, would vote for McPalin or against Obama. I find it shocking and self loathing for anybody who believes in human rights, the environment, or social justice of any kind to vote for McPalin.
Palin is a despicable human being, and the party that advocates her is despicable for doing so. A vote for McCain alone would bring this country not just four years of the same, as many seem to think. It would be four years far worse than any of us could imagine. But to add Palin to the mix is to advocate genocide to the entire planet.
Obama Or Else!
I'm a feminist - but I cant vote for Obama. Why?
Cant vote for a man who:
1. Supports partial birth abortion
2. Went to an anti-semitic church for 20 years
3. Went to a church that said "Damn the USA after 9/11
4. Refuses to salute flag
5. Refuses to wear USA pin
6. Has $2 million house from Rezko crook
7. Likes the Palestinians
8. Mentor for 10 years communist pornographer - Frank Marshall Davis
9. Friends w/ unrepentent weatherman Bill Ayers and Bernardine (both of whom would be in jail except for Bill's rich father
10. Takes a fortune in private contributions from the arabs (you dont see him helping his poor aunt!)
11. Will raise taxes for everyone!
12. Supported subprime mortgages so poor people could lose their life savings, their dignity and their homes with adjustable rate mortgages..
13. Lied and lied and lied...
14. Wife not proud of america even though she got princeton education beautiful home two lovely children and senator for husband
15. List goes on and on and on....
"But they never mention that abortion was legal when the constitution was ratified, and didn’t become illegal until the 1830’s."
Excellent! I've never heard it put just that way before.
Thanks for posting the letter.
btw re:Gay Marriage. I was pleasently surprised to see Obama on a No on 8 commercial this morning.
Anonymous, let's not kid ourselves: If you believe all the Right-Wing lies (easily disproven elsewhere) you recited, you were never going to vote Democratic anyhow.
I like how Charlotte said people are looking for an excuse to justify their not agreeing with basic Democratic principles or caring enough to act on their agreements. Self-examination is, of course, up to you, but the refusal to acknowledge the roots of your choice is not gonna fly here.
Once Obama is elected, it will be our job to make sure that feminism (and feminist thinking) returns to the forefront of Democratic practice. The future of every girl and boy depends on it, just as surely as it depends on all forms of human liberation.
I have given it a lot of thought. Serious thought, I assure you. I'm not enamoured of McCain or Palin...
I believe in social justice and human rights and feminism - i have very seriously thought about it all.. and, did research on Frank Marshall Davis, Rezko, the black theology of Rev. Wright. I have met Percy Sutton and believe that he was asked by black muslim to write a letter of support for Obama. I went to college and law school in the l970's and 1980's and am quite familar with SDS/Weatherman group and their continued agenda. I also am familar with the black community; both the middle class Jack and Jill group and the poorer black community. Frankly, I'm basically your run of the mill liberal/feminist. Although, I didn't check it out further, I also understand that Obama supported an extreme brutal radical Kenyan politician (Odingi?). The rest of the items, I went to the source as much as possible... FBI files that are on-line, Obama's books. I think everyone has to look at this election very carefully. I don't think that McCain/Palin represents the danger to the united states that Obama does .... I urge everyone to do your own research and think this through very carefully before making a decision. There's a 2001 article on Ayers in the NY Times archive; there is the FBI files and a great deal of documentation about Frank Marshall Davis and the other matters. I apologize for my spelling - without spellcheck I'm lost! (and I'm not from Ohio btw).
anonymous is an idjit.. And, get ready, for the day of idjits is drawing to a close. Buh byeeee. Meteor!!!
shit, if i was writing such drivel i hope that i would have the good sense to do so anonymously too.
why not just call him "n*gger" and be fucking done with it?
palin is a freedom nightmare. not just for women, but for all of us. she thinks that the constitution's protection of freedom of speech protects her from being criticised. when, in fact, and even a casual reading, it does exactly the opposite. yes, palin is free to campaign negatively, to exagerrate claims, to outright lie. a criticism or pointing out of her lies does nothing to curtail that right she had to say that shit in the first place. the constitution does garauntee her right to speak. it also garauntees my right to disagree.
basic mistakes like that are crucial when choosing the folks in charge of government. not understanding or merely being unable to articulate the role and place of the vice president under our system is also a disqualifier in my book.
the biggest "whoa nellie" moment i had with her was a largely unnoticed "joe the plumber" type lovefest two weeks ago (without even going into the fact that joe the plumber is a ficticious creation, he ain't a plumber, he ain't named joe, he ain't anything of what he says he is). palin talked about her vision of "america under the rule of john mcCain."
americans don't fucking rule dude. americans lead. americans govern. americans work their american asses off for the good of the nation.
this whole notion of rule scares and disgusts me.
even more than anonymous bullshitters.
1. This is the Party that killed and buried the Equal Rights Amendment -- the total text of which was “Equality of Rights Under the law Shall not be Denied or Abridged by the United States or by any State on Account of Sex.”
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That's just a crock! Misogyny on both sides of the aisle killed the ERA, not the Republicans. Misogyny, just like that exhibited by so many Democratic leaders, Obama included, against Hillary Clinton during the primary. Maybe you agree with that by supporting Obama, but I don't. In fact, it makes me determined to do all I can to defeat him.
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2. Some of the writers are intimating that Geraldine Ferraro and Bill and Hillary Clinton are going to vote for McCain. Of course I can
’t read their minds, but I think it is the height of arrogance and solipsism for anyone say that just because they are going to vote for McCain, they also just know that these other great Americans are going to violate and abandon everything they campaigned for and stood for and believed in to support a ticket that epitomizes the polar opposite.
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I don't know how they'll vote either, but if I had to place a bet... well let's just say, they were all painted as racists by Obama and his minions after years of working for equal rights and doing more for minorities than Barack Obama ever thought of.
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3. I can
’t let you think that we will not lose Roe v, Wade if McCain is elected, no matter what you hear. Better to acknowledge that you don’t care that much about it, or you don’t need an abortion, or birth control, or sex education, than to pretend to yourself that this will not happen. Currently 7 out of 9 Justices are Republican appointees.
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Oh here we go, when all else fails throw the reproductive organs at em! Please! The Republicans know full well that trying to overturn Roe would mean the destruction of their party. There is not enough public support for it. That is why they've never tried, despite having a majority in both houses of congress and the presidency for six years of the Bush Administration. It's a prolific vote-getter for them, why ruin a good thing?
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The bottom line? Voting for Obama equates to sanctioning caucus fraud, voter intimidation, political fixing, race-baiting, sexism, and misogyny. Those are just the tactics he used to get the nomination, we won't even go into lack of experience, dubious character, poor judgment, megalomania tendencies, lack of conviction or his lack of any "normal" friends.
Maybe he reflects your beliefs and values, but he certainly doesn't mine.
What are you smoking? As a long time feminist, BO is the last person I would vote for! LOL!
hey anonymous,
Do they really pay you to post comments? This is the least return for the buck I can possibly imagine.
This is not the site to find McCain/Palin supporters. I suppose this is why you went for the McKinney angle. This is not the election to find people triangulating against the Democratic candidate.
Um oh yeah, you're full of shit.
Voting M/P because as a feminist, I still believe:
1)Protecting our First Amendment rights trumps worrying about our abortion rights. Do I have to explain to you WHY? Are you an American and a journalist or...what?
2)Securing our country, winning in Iraq and Afghanistan, and bringing our troops home in victory trumps "making history".
3)Economic growth trumps economic equality by "spread the wealth" policies.
I agree with antifish and, like goandersen, I think That One is a HUGE misogynist who will say anything to get women's votes,but then he will do with you WHATEVER he wants. Like belittle you, SWEETIE! No way, Nobama!
God help that little girl if she ever wants to be president.
btw-I'm a Democrat, but Abraham Lincoln and Martin Luther King are my greatest heroes- both REPUBLICANS!
Anyone voting for McCain objectively hates America.
And anyone claiming to be either a Democrat or a feminist who votes for McCain is also a liar.
I can assure you that I am not a liar. I am a registered democrat and most certainly a feminist. When I first started working, there was horrible sezual harassment; when I first started practicing law, I looked around and I was the only woman in the courtroom. I am a real person who spent a lot of time looking up the facts; and based upon facts, I reached a decision. I urge you to independently review the facts, lot at the resources available on the internet, and, then make your decision. If you reach a different conclusion, then, of course, vote accordingly. i think that this election is of sufficient importance for each of us to make our decisions, not based upon our political affiliations and upon our political affiliations, but upon the underlying facts. If you reach a different conclusion, than I did, that's fine. I have not engaged in ad hominum arguments with anyone on this board, or elsewhere on the internet. It is not necessary nor is it persuasive. In fact, it undermines your argument.
I am a feminist. I am a life long democrat. I am pro-choice, I am a health care provider, I am a mother.
I am voting for John McCain.
I have abandoned the corruption of the DNC, the double speak, the lip service, I have decided to vote for the man of character, who's actions are congruent w/ his words.
McCain spent more time as a POW than Obama has spent as a senator. Think about that
In fact, it undermines your argument.
The thing that undermines your arguments is you being a liar. You're not a Democrat. You're not a feminist. Democrats don't vote for Republicans who hate America. Feminists don't vote for Republicans who hate women.
The vast, overwhelming majority of former Hillary supporters now support Obama, because they know that a vote for McCain is a vote against everything that Hillary fought for. I rather suspect that the PUMAs are generally either people who hate non-whites so much that they could never vote for Obama, and are just afraid to get out of the racism closet, or they're Republican ratfuckers.
You are a Republican ratfucker.
Sounds to me that you are more interested in voting with your plumbing than with your brain. Go right ahead and vote for a man who let it be known he would prefer to let a woman die than to have an abortion performed. McCain did this in front of a massive audience with disdain for every woman's right to life.
Obama will be elected and we can put this insane and yes racist bullshit from people like Anonymous behind us. I am certain in the future you will be fighting us every inch of the way as we try to make a better America. And lady I for one am ready for the battle...
Oh really now? She is defining who is and is not a feminist?
I was a charter member of NOW in the 70s, a worker for Hillary this spring. Now -- go PALIN!
Both are feminists -- but Hillary is now supporting the ANTI-feminist Obama.
ANyone who did not support HIllary against Obama -- is not a feminist!
PUMA!
Gee, Charlotte, a lot of us who have switched sides could have written the same things you did in this article ten months ago. Since the primary, however, we've grown up.
Obama and his cabal are republican-wannabes invested in power and money. How else do you account for $600 mil spent on self-aggrandizement when US citizens are out of work and without health care. His managers have specialized in fostering class, race and gender warfare, including the monstrous attacks on Governor Palin.
Take a good hard look at the hypocrisy and fraudulence of both male-dominated political parties and, for god's sake, stop being a lackey for either of them.
PUMA!
A feminist? I'm a mother and a grandmother. I am also a former military spouse. The U.S. Flag, Freedom and Christianity are what I pass on to my family.
A feminist? I believe in capitalism! I believe my family can achieve success no matter what their gender.
A feminist? I believe in equal pay for women - it still hasn't happened?
A feminist? I don't think so!! I'm not for Obama either!!
So please don't try to tie feminism to Obama! He does not represent me nor my views!!
Thank you!
Based solely on the fact that the pumas were told to come here to stomp on this blog shows that they have no interest in anything but their own agenda. They don't care about women's rights, they don't care about the hate that the party they represent is tossing around THEY DO NOT CARE ABOUT THIS COUNTRY!
I'm with Amuseinc and Millions upon Millions that will fight no matter how they try and take our country down.
That little hate group is nothing compared to the REAL AMERICAN people with love and compassion for this country and their fellow men & women.
BRING IT !!
it shouldn't surprise me to see obama lovers using every available lie and disparagement to attempt to silence their opponents. Disagree with them you get called "racist" and anti-American! It is part and parcel of the indoctrinating techniques of the neo-fascist group-thinking Kool-aid guzzlers.
We're here. We're feminists (and no, you may not OWN the word) . We're voting for McCain. Get used to it. Insulting us will not slow our mission or change our votes.
Any real Clinton supporter would never vote for McCain for one simple reason - if McCain were president, there is not a single piece of legislation with Clinton's name on his that will get past his desk without being vetoed. His base would eat him alive if he didn't. With the new and improved Dem majority, she could get a lot of her agenda passed, but would be very difficult to get over the 2/3 majority
So, PUMAs, what is more important to you - giving Obama the finger, or actually allowing Clinton to get something done?
I saw a most disturbing political ad her in So Florida on my teevee this afternoon - in the midst of the Dolphins-Broncos football game. It featured a woman who said she was the outcome (baby) of a failed abortion (!!!). The ad was a "pro-life", anti-Obama piece. Very agressive and I wonder how this will play with the undecideds.
Meantime I've been canvassing and phone-banking for Obama. Sure do hope we will be preserving a woman's right to choose ...
Who let the trolls in, and why? I find them unpleasant and I wonder why GNB doesn't invoke the right to edit. Frankly, they make reading this usually courteous and interesting blog rather a turn off. I'm fed up with right wing nutjobs after months of Sarah Palin and her fan club. It's not like anything is to be learned from reading their spew.
I will tell you exactly why I am voting for McCain/Palin, because the DNC robbed their constituence of their votes due to do putting a fresh, unexperienced and racist individual with celebrity status on the democratic ticket....
.....Being a democrat is a moral choice for those who believe that all people shall have equal representtation.....
democrat Definition
demo·crat (dem′ə krat′)
noun
a person who believes in and upholds government by the people; advocate of rule by the majority
a person who believes in and practices the principle of equality of rights, opportunity, and treatment
a member of the Democratic Party
The East coast is always first to post their votes there fore living on the west coast already deplets the importance of my vote as well as the rest of the West Coast voters.... Then to have the DNC not only encourage delegates to throw their support behind Obama regardless of how their constituents voted... ALL in the spirit of UNITY.... UNITY my A$$.... They refused to hear not only the majority of the democratic party, but they refused to acknoledge the one canidate who broke the all time record. A monumental earning the most votes of any United State Presidential nominee. So I officially dropped my Democratic membership and invested in becoming a free agent as Independent.... As an independent I'm going with the canidate who's party has not tried to steal my vote.... BUT rather inspired me to vote with my conviction and what I beleive is right not what sell my vote....
I have always stood on my own ground their is NO amount of $$$$$MONEY$$$$$
that will ever buy my soul or vote.... Money changes everything.... BUT not for me....
This country use to stand for something but after this election, I pretty much have to say the democratic party needs to clean house.... AND build from the bottom up.... So GO PUMA GO....
You didn't hear me when I supported Hillary, A matter of fact the Obama supporters have been right out nasty to those who supported Hillary.... ANYONE who inspires such hate is not worthy of being President...
Uh, Jacki, nicfit, et al, did you actually read Ms. Taft's letter?
I choose to vote McCain/Palin and your insulting language and scare tactics will not work to change my mind.... how about an intelligent discussion of how things really are? Obama is a narcissistic opportunist who has no love for feminists "SWEETIE" ... he pays his female staffers less than his male staffers. That is proof that the man has no compunction about you "SWEETIES" that are his supporters. He is in this for himself and his "socialist, communist" buddies, like Ayers, Khalidi and a host of others. Beware for what you ask for... you might have a rude awakening ...
Charlotte
Are you kidding me on why I should vote for Obama.... If Obama wanted my support he would have provided me with information that I myself could research, like his his intrest in school... When you get to a junior college one is still searching for who they want to be and what they want to represent.... When one gets to the University level, they pretty much know what they want to do with their life. So refusing to furnish his secondary school records leaves a void in time in his life that just can not be explained..... Then you have the Racist Reverend Wright who claims to be a Chritian and spews hatred for others, That is no a Godly man...who inspired Obama to become who he is, and then we have Michelle's thesis from Princeton.... We can not research Obama and who he is. But we can see what kind of person and beliefs he is drawn to, based on the company he keeps..... Oh let's not forget William Ayers.
William Ayers: Today, Mr. Ayers is a university professor and a member of Chicago's intellectual establishment. Forty years ago he was a member of the Weather Underground, a radical group that claimed responsibility for a series of bombings, including at the Pentagon and U.S. Capitol.
Antoino Rezko: "Tony" Rezko is a businessman who has helped raise campaign money for Mr. Obama and many other Illinois politicians. He was convicted Wednesday on 16 of 24 counts involving mail fraud, wire fraud, money laundering and aiding and abetting bribery
Rashid Khalidi: Mr. Khalidi is a Palestinian scholar and author on Middle Eastern affairs who has called Israel a racist state bent on creating "an apartheid system." He's also a friend of Mr. Obama.
Emil Jones Jr.: Mr. Jones, the president of the Illinois Senate, amounts to Mr. Obama's political godfather and was an important part of his longshot victory for U.S. Senate in 2004. He helped the little-known politician meet the right people, and he picked Mr. Obama to handle high-profile legislation during the two years leading up to the election.
So Charlotte I will agree their is some racism going on here, but you are confused as to where it is coming from..... Those who have been so inspirational to Obama have inspired so much Racism that in it self is reason enough not to vote for Obama....
Obama has provided me with no accomplishments to measure his ability by....
Obama has ensured there is not one peice of information for me to base his abilities by....
Obama has inspired so many people to to insult and belittle those who don't support him.....
It's rather ironic that his supporters spew such hatred,
he appears to be drawn to that charater trait in others....
So based on the information provided Obama stands for nothing I beleive in...
Liza --
I like the trolls.
Their insanity makes the point to vote for the Democratic Party much more clearly than either Maggie or I could.
*smiles sweetly*
So long as people attack ideas and not people, they are welcome here.
GNB is not an echo chamber. People are welcome to disagree, including to disagree strongly with our writers. We delete comments when they attack the writers or people in comment threads. So long as folks are attacking ideas and not people, and don't go off topic, it's generally fine. (There are other rules, but we'll start there.)
I was all for the health of the woman, progressive taxation, and a sane plan to get us out of Iraq before Obama won the nomination! Really! I'm not a Republican operative with a dozen sockpuppet handles, honest!
PUMA = Contempt for the American public.
Oh...It's the puma pussies.... I see. Got their little feelers hurted 'cause it wasn't "hillary".... NOT.
No. This proves once and for all that all the "hillary supporters" that turned puma pukes were actually republican plants all along. They were only "supporting" hillary because the pubs know they are toast against Obama. This final trollery proves it. And, I'd say how fucking dare you drag the name of Hillary Clinton down into your devious gutter. There are no Democrats who supported Hillary NOT voting for Obama. None.
I guess life at the confluence became too toxic with two rivers of shit coming together like that. Smellllllly stuff that.
Again...... METEOR!!!! 
Best description of the choice facing us I have seen so far comes from LJ:
In this election, you either get free candy (Democrats), or a brick through your window and a house fire (Republicans)
If you vote for Gollum/Albatross, you are voting against the future of the US and against your own interests. In the last eighty years, at the national level, the Democratic Party has consistently delivered superior economic growth, superior fiscal discipline, and better protection of civil liberties. There is no major demographic group in the US that has done worse during Democratic administrations since WWII, and no major group that has done better during Republican administrations, and that includes the richest 5% of Americans. All rhetoric aside, the Democratic party has delivered clearly superior results on a broad range of crucial metrics at least since WWII.
Thank you, Jesse, for writing that so I didn't have to.
And Pierce brings it down to the bottom line. I'm disappointed that so many women had their buttons hit by the Hillary thing -- but, hey, she knew the stakes, and she handled it like a big girl. And it's rather sad that so many of her supporters don't have the ovarian fortitude to do the same.
Throwing tantrums is unbecoming in five-year-olds, and downright embarrassing in 50-year-olds. Thanks, ladies, for confirming every negative hot-flash-irrational stereotype of middle-aged women ever cackled by some 1960s Catskills comic. Whatever you've done in your lives to move us past that awful era -- well, you're doing a great job of undoing it all now.
Grow up. Really. There's a lot more at stake here than your egos -- there's a whole future at stake that your children and grandchildren are going to have to live in. And McCain has made it abundantly clear that he's not willing or able to take us there.
Your granddaughters are going to look at this vote 20 years hence, and wonder what in the fuck you were taking.
I was all for the health of the woman, progressive taxation, and a sane plan to get us out of Iraq before Obama won the nomination! Really! I'm not a Republican operative with a dozen sockpuppet handles, honest!
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Don't take the trolls seriously. They can't really believe we are all sockpuppet GOPs. They just want to put us on defensive and waste our time.
So many nasty personal attacks here! Hillary drew the same, and so does Palin. When a really strong, confident Alpha woman runs, the sexist men attack her -- and so do some women, unfortunately. All the more reason we need to support Sarah. Maybe eventually these anti-Sarah women will 'get over it.' 
After 4 years of Sarah as VP, maybe the country will be ready for Hillary as POTUS.
Nope, we're not sockpuppets! We truly feel there's nothing - not a sane economic policy, not keeping ourselves out of another war, not the "health" of the woman - nothing more important than putting a woman in the White House! Just listen to how we fall over each other praising the glories of Sarah "Rape Test? It'll Cost Ya, You Betcha" Palin!
Nope, we're not sockpuppets, and I just didn't gain 50 Maverick points with this post! You can trust me: I'm an anonymous face on the Internet!
Jesse, I appreciate - but disagree - with your strategy of not deleting posts as long as they attack ideas and not people. I don't think that a discussion between like minded people is an echo chamber. It's almost like saying that news media have to simultaneously present opposing ideas to have balance.
Point counterpoint - not so productive. Mostly what you get to do do is defend your initial position or get into a fight. Rarely does anyone say, "oh, I see your point" or "could you elaborate on your idea so I can understand more fully." Not only is this boring, it keeps people from actually discussing something in depth.
My personal reaction to to trolls is that I just want to stop reading comments altogether. I don't need to be persuaded by example that McPalin and the far right is a horrorshow. I think the trolls just pollute the environment and when I come to a blog like this, which I trust and admire, I don't want to have to hold my nose.
But, given your mandate to allow anyone to say anything as long as it's an "idea" not an attack on a person, I think that GNB would be served well by active moderation.
Dearest Pukmas.... you all are dead to the feminist movement. My God, there is nothing more important that protecting a woman's God given RIGHT to conduct her own life in ALL regards. You undermine that. You will rot in hell for it too. You should be ashamed.... forever .... for even suggesting a WOMAN is not fully capable of making decisions regarding her OWN body, let alone actively participating in removing the FULL human rights of all American women. I wouldn't want to be you when this comes back around to roost on YOUR doorstep.... and it will.
This is EXCELLENT. Kind of reminds me of something Gilly said to me when he was in the hospital:
"Good. If we can still piss them off, we must be doing SOMETHING right."
The last couple of screens have many nasty hostile words directed against PUMAs.
fsteele: would you like me to call the WAAAAAAAAAHHHHBULANCE for you? Typical right-winger -- you can dish it all day, but as soon as someone says something even mildly disapproving to you, you complain about how nasty and hostile everyone is. GTFU or GTFO.
Pierce,
Damn, you beat me to it! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH, we hurt their widdle feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelings! No wonder they support a candidate who treats all women like retarded 3-year olds.
Liza,
I take your point, and if this becomes an every day problem, then we'll deal with it.
It is not.
Moderation has its own set of problems, which GNB doesn't want any part of dealing with, unless we absolutely must go there. I remain unconvinced that a very occasional troll infestation is cause to implement moderation.
For all you blinkered feminists who think the Democratic Party gives a shit about you.
FACT: The Democratic Party removed the Equal Rights Amendment from its platform in 2004!!!! The ERA had been there since 1944, but the Dems removed it.
FACT: Eight years of a liberal President Clinton saw no significant gains for women.
FACT: The glass ceiling Hilary Clinton spoke about cracking 18 million times, was actually the one hanging over her head i.e. the one in the Democratic Party, NOT the one in corporate America. Why is there a glass ceiling in the Dem Party?
FACT: The Republican Party had the balls to do something the Dems didn't, i.e. put a woman on the ticket.
REAL feminists see more opportunity for feminist gain with the Republican ticket, because that glass ceiling will be broken by Sarah Palin. What glass ceiling can an Obama presidency break? Not one.
I will support the party that supports the feminist vision, and for me right now (and as much as I hate to admit it) is the McCain/Palin ticket.
You feminist failures just keep supporting the Dems. They'll take your time, your money and your energy and in return you'll get just enough crumbs to keep you coming back.
The Dems had the best candidate in Hilary Clinton yet they stood by and watched the Kennedy family machine sabotage her candidacy. My vote for McCain/Palin affords me the opportunity to say "F**K You" to the Democrats and ironically say yes to the feminist vision of a woman in the White House.
Man howdy.
I did not know that there was that much kool-aid in the entire freaking world.
This merits its own documentary on the Daily Planet.
Oh grow up!
Sara: I think it's not so much that there's that much Kool-Aid, but that there are a small number of people who are *REALLY* into it... mixed with acetone and rubbing alcohol.
This is from another blog...
I experienced ACORN-worker fraud and harassment at my caucus in Las Vegas in January. Hillary supporters, of which I was one, were spat upon and called racists. Non-Obama voters were misdirected and locked out, even though Obama voters were let into the gym after the close-out time. ACORN workers violated rules left and right and “lost” boxes of votes for Hillary. All our NV caucuses were a sham, and our Dem. Sec. of State Ross Miller did nothing about it, even after the FBIraided the LV ACORN office in October.
I
’ve been a Dem for 35 years, and I can tell you that it feels bad—very bad—to have been spat upon by sister and fellow Dems and to have had my caucus vote stolen. Our votes are sacrosanct, but they were treated like garbage.
A documentary made by Dem. Gigi Gaston shows Dems
—male, female, black, white, etc.—recounting horrifying caucus and polling-place incidents during the primary. It’s at www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com. There’s also more firsthand evidence at www.caucusanalysis.org. I’m sorry to say, ACORN thugism, cheating, and vote rigging is real, and so is Sen. Obama’s long, deep connection with it.
The mainstream media have refused to report all the news. And now, you may hate me for relating my true experience, but regardless who wins tomorrow, the truth will eventually out. And you may still hate me for raining on your parade, but put yourself in my place. If you
’ve never voted in a caucus or were not harassed during your state’s primary, then you have no idea what really DID INFACT occur across the country.
I just couldn
’t hold back anymore. It’s true. I experienced it, so did millions of others. I’m sorry that our fellow Democrats just don’t care about it. Saddest time in my 53 years of life. Sad for people of color who fought against the very thing that their own people perpetrated against others at the polls. You can see them speak about it on the documentary.
But you won’t look. Obama supporters don’t care.
from another blog....
I experienced ACORN-worker fraud and harassment at my caucus in Las Vegas in January. Hillary supporters, of which I was one, were spat upon and called racists. Non-Obama voters were misdirected and locked out, even though Obama voters were let into the gym after the close-out time. ACORN workers violated rules left and right and “lost” boxes of votes for Hillary. All our NV caucuses were a sham, and our Dem. Sec. of State Ross Miller did nothing about it, even after the FBIraided the LV ACORN office in October.
I
’ve been a Dem for 35 years, and I can tell you that it feels bad—very bad—to have been spat upon by sister and fellow Dems and to have had my caucus vote stolen. Our votes are sacrosanct, but they were treated like garbage.
A documentary made by Dem. Gigi Gaston shows Dems
—male, female, black, white, etc.—recounting horrifying caucus and polling-place incidents during the primary. It’s at www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com. There’s also more firsthand evidence at www.caucusanalysis.org. I’m sorry to say, ACORN thugism, cheating, and vote rigging is real, and so is Sen. Obama’s long, deep connection with it.
The mainstream media have refused to report all the news. And now, you may hate me for relating my true experience, but regardless who wins tomorrow, the truth will eventually out. And you may still hate me for raining on your parade, but put yourself in my place. If you
’ve never voted in a caucus or were not harassed during your state’s primary, then you have no idea what really DID INFACT occur across the country.
I just couldn
’t hold back anymore. It’s true. I experienced it, so did millions of others. I’m sorry that our fellow Democrats just don’t care about it. Saddest time in my 53 years of life. Sad for people of color who fought against the very thing that their own people perpetrated against others at the polls. You can see them speak about it on the documentary.
But you won’t look. Obama supporters don’t care.
What is a PUMA?
sorry - paste and cut from other blog came out unreadable --- please delete --- I'll get the link instead....
Link on fraud at democratic caucus by ACORN is
www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com
Wow, the KoolAid keeps flowing in this thread. Don't worry your pretty little head, sweetie *wink* Big Daddy McSame has already done all of the thinking for you....
anonymous: I realize you haven't actually encountered ACORN outside of right-wing hate radio and blog postings, but the idea that they have the organizational capacity to engineer massive vote fraud is laughable on its face. One of my exes worked for them for a time while we were dating... and what I saw convinced me that those chuckleheads aren't organized enough to steal a pizza, let alone an election.
thank you Charlotte
for your inspiring words. I agree with you and believe that Obama is our best choice for president. I consider myself a feminist and am pro choice. I lead women's healing circles and womb healing. I am saddened by all the anger and bitterness I hear in the comments. We really need to find a way to work together rather than tear each other down. I'm saddened to see women and other voters who were excited about Hillary go in the opposite direction to support someone like Palin, that I feel, is the antitheses of what Hillary stands for and has fought for. Their comments and anonymous comments sound to me like the angry/fearmongering McCain Palin campaign.
I believe the solution lies beyond the anger. Making people angry and afraid does not mean you've done something right. That is what keeps people divided and seperate. Bringing people together..being willing to talk and work with people of different views, being straightforward brings Changes. This is when you know you are doing something right. Bringing People together to work things out is so much more powerful than making people angry.
Comparing the hate and fear slinging of McCain/Palin with the positive, clear change message of OBAMA, Obama is the clear choice for me. Regardles of who is elected I hope we can begin to look beyond the hate and look for solutions together to protect women's rights and to co-create a brighter future for us all. I hope for a future where we can look beyond the labels of those democrats..pumas, republicans...etc
where like
Charlotte says its about
" enlarging our compassion for all people; about expanding both accountability and choice; about caring for the earth as if she were our mother; about becoming evolved enough to find peaceful ways to solve our differences;"
this is ultimately the only way to come up with real solutions.
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and anonymous...
I hear that you are concerned about all the things thrown at Obama. that is what the Mcain campaign wants you to be afraid. They want to distract you from the real issues. Check into Obama's economic plan. Taxes will go down for 95% percent of americans. unlesss you are earning $250 thousand a year. you will pay less.
obama wore a usa pin to the last debate
&
click here for Obama leading the pledge of allegience!
http://fightthesmears.com/articl...icles/7/
patriot
I hope the positive intentions behind my words are received
regards
Kiana Love
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