Happy Holidays, one and all. 
Yes, Happy Holidays to one and all. I hope next year at this very moment we will be talking about the special prosecuter who will soon be starting work. Well thats my my wish.
The only time I would ever refer to a woman with the "C" word is when the woman in question has already dehumanized herself by showing herself to be devoid of empathy and the most elementary forms of basic human decency.
{cough}Ann Coulter{/cough}
I had a good example growing up. My father would always refer to someone as "You stupid individual!" Usually in reference a driver. He was also a master at phonetic swearing, using common words or phrases but with the right emphasis. My favorite is still "Sacramento California" in a French accent. "Chateaubriand" works well too. Just shake your fist and pronounce it with vigor.
Having learned the many uses for the "F" word in the Army, I still know when not to use it in certain company.
Merry Christmas!
I've been saying "Mele Kalikimaka" to piss off coworkers who don't know that's how one says it in Hawaii.
Happy Challah Days, everyone! (Another 'C' word.)
First off, the "J-word" isn't an evil word. Jews are Jews; it's only been debased by its use by bigots, much like "liberal" is seen to be debased.
Also, isn't it weird how many terms for unpleasant people reference human genitalia? Is this the case in other languages?
Ah, and here's the cultural divide again. In the 70s, political dykes chose to reclaim the C word by using it for our own (and one another's) genitalia. It lost all its negative punch and became just a good descriptive term, surpassed only by yoni which we could use more easily in public.
But, of course, it's all in context. We would never have referred to another woman (or human being of any gender) as a C because that would be objectification and, frankly, vilifying a lovely piece of anatomy.
So, we had the "C--- Coloring Book" and lots of songs/essays with it used freely, and it was our...secret.
We were doing the same thing with dyke, which has caught on (although current generations give it a meaning that is at times the opposite of ours, sigh). We declined to try to rehabilitate bitch or chick or lady, which I personally find way more offensive than C -- all reduction of women to barnyard animals or the false injection of class elitism to indicate we are better than "other women" is obnoxious, in my opinion. We have much more language options than that.
I see radical disabled folk reclaiming gimp and crip with more success. Sometimes it takes a generation to see what worked, i.e., became descriptive rather than remaining defiantly perjorative. I think it's clear the reclamation of N did not stick. It was too institutionally linked to genocide, really.
But C was a good old Anglo-Saxon body part for a long time before it became a name to humiliate women with. It has a satisfying feel in the mouth (all innuendo intended). The plain-speaking men of my father and grandfather's generation referred to the part as cunny, again not as perjorative -- at least, not that I ever heard. Equivalent of johnson or dingleberries.
Perhaps I'm getting too explicit for your comments section, Jesse. I'll stop here, then.
Why is Halloween like Christmas?
Maggie: odd a lot of women of my genreation wear bitch as a badge of honor
Hubris,
(first of all let me say Merry WhateverYouGot!! )
Haloween is NOT like Xmas. Haloween is MUCH cooler, you get to dress up and act stupid in public and are REWARDED for doing so, and you get to drink more with your FRIENDS and not have to go home to family. And the candy is better. 
Bohica, I love your father.
Since "seeing the light" I very rarely use "bitch" in an actual insulting sense. Obviously it can be used in a positive, slightly-snarking way (i.e., bitch magazine, bitchphd, etc), but I've replaced it for all irritated i-hate-you purposes with "chubi." One day I tried to refer to my boss as a bitch via text message to my boyfriend, and that is what my word recognition software inserted instead.
We have also taken up using "suze" as an insult, after accidentally glimpsing Suze Ormen's tv show and deciding 1) Suze Ormen (Orman? Not sure) is batshit crazy and 2) "Suze" sounds like a mean word. (Perhaps I would feel differently if I knew anyone that went by "Suze"...no offense intended.)
Maggie -
Actually, I knew but forgot about the reclamation project.
None the less, I conclude it wasn't successful in the larger marketplace of conversations. That the word is used mostly and by most people really in a violent way, to attack women.
I do appreciate your bringing the historical perspective. *smiles*
Out of here. Off to the Post Office.
What I didn't learn about the "F" word in the Army.
A classic. (not work safe)
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Thanks.
You banned "cult" not long ago. Is that the C- word you're talking about?
Because DEC25 = HEX31
I've never liked to pronounce those two words, the female dog and the one that rhymes with Punt. They don't have a very pleasing ring to them. Frankly, neither does vagina, at least in the English pronounciation. The Spanish is much nicer, I can live with that and even like it. Of all, I much prefer the Brazilian xoxa using the sh like sound, different than the Spanish version that uses ch for the x.
I am appalled at how popular the word bitch has become on the net. I don't live in an English speaking country so I can only imagine that bitch can't possibly be used so frequently in conversation except perhaps at dog shows. And yes, I am aware of the popularity of the C word for xoxa in England. Those nasty Anglo Saxons.
So King Cnut is out?
I thought Richard Pryor pretty much covered the N word to my satisfaction, although I wasn't really tempted to use it.
every real man knows a c**t is only good for one thing
being the portal they used to enter the world?
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That word is not allowed on this site. --Jesse Wendel, Publisher
Uh, I thought DEC25=OCT31=HEX19?
If "HEX" means "hexadecimal", that is.
Doc, yer down on it hard for all the right reasons.
Now if I can get GNB, and anyone else, to drop BITCHES from the language, we'd be really getting somewhere, cuz THAT word does the same thing.
It cuts. It stabs. It HITS! It hurts. It's not hip, it's fuckin derogatory, almost as much as the other two words up for discussion.
And sayin beyotch ain't no great leap forward for mankind, either.
It's just time to stop using hateful words cuz somehow, they became hip, and hop, or acceptable among white trailer trash and then the commercial world of scripting.
It's just time to stop using words that are themselves mechanism's of the evil in us all.
I don't mind dirty down street cussin, but the N's, the C's n teh B's in our language is just a way the Confed Flag, a racist past, and the WORST of our misogynistic selves is allowed to perpetuate with a knowing wink.
That every culture, every race and every class level for the most part has their own similar words, and for the same reasons, is NO reason to accept it.
No fuckin way. Don't accept it.
Good post.
Merry Christmas, GNB. I do lurk, still. But then, ya knew that, huh . . . 
You are welcome here larue. But then, ya knew that, huh...
*Christmas hugs* and a safe space to you.
Queequeg -
*cracks up*
Now that's comedy.
Crack and comedy, are also both C-words.
cult isn't baned, by the way, except when used in conjunction -- a third C-word -- with Scientology, or any LGAT. I don't have any problem with you believing what you believe. I just don't want to get sued, and those fucking bastards have a history of SLAPing the hell out of anyone who calls them a cult.
Feel free to call the Bush Administration a cult however.
You're right, Ivory Bill.
Great post Jesse. I agree. I don't use either word and get on people that do. Not on blogs, not my call, but in real life I do.
Aside from my ex, who used the c word, and it is everything you/WF say, and the n word because he felt entitiled to as part of his culture. To my ears, the n word is especially violent, has been all my life. Thanks for your good words here. I agree with Larue on the b word too.
Merry Christmas to all! I wish I had remembered to get ice cream to make Mrs. Robinson's HBR on this clear sky coooold night. I didn't. Instead I raised a couple Modelo Especiale with a friend and, on the way home, spyed some Hawaian beer (!?!?!) with a pic of the ocean and surfers.... "Longboard Island Lager" - Kona Brewery. Ahhhhhh jes lookin' at the pic makes me warm right up.... and the beer isn't bad either. Raising one to you all
To be somewhat pendantic:
First off, the "J-word" isn't an evil word. Jews are Jews; it's only been debased by its use by bigots, much like "liberal" is seen to be debased.
Actually, and this is kind of interesting from the standpoint of propaganda, what the Goebbels-driven Nazi propaganda did, was to substitute "Jews" for the rabid racist vocabulary of the SA rabble rousers (like Streicher). Instead of saying "kikes," for example, Goebbels would almost always use proper German nouns to refer to the "enemy." Nouns like "Jews," or "Terrorists," or "Bolshevists." Streicher printed horrible cartoons of Jews slitting Christian throats; Goebbels gave speeches about international (ahem) bankers sucking the lifeblood out of decent (ahem) hardworking Europeans.
He'd let the wackos introduce the nasty words into the broader discourse -- and then sanitize it, thus legitimizing that discourse by saying the same damned thing using inoffensive tags.
Thus, with a few dozen superfluous words, I mean to agree with Doc Wendel. Destroy the "C***" weed before it goes to seed.
In 1992, I played Ricky Roma in a production of "Glengarry Glen Ross". As anyone who has seen it (or the movie version) can attest, that play contains more profanity per minute than just about any other piece of literature ever.
After an hour and a half of constantly bombarding the audience with every conceivable configuration of foul language, we hit the part in act 2 where Roma turns to Williamson who just blew the sale, and says,"You stupid, fucking c***."
And I swear, that one word, in a sea of vulgarity, caused a shocked intake of breath from the audience as if to say, "Holy shit! I can't believe he just said that!"
So, yeah. I gotta agree. That word is more powerful than most, and is definitely on a par with "the N-word" in its ability to shock the sensibilities, and both should only ever be used in a VERY careful context to do just that.
Good call, GNB.
By the way, I also had to fight real hard once when directing a production of "Of Mice and Men" to keep "the N-Word" in there. Goes back to your "writing of the highest order" exception. The wife of the actor playing Crooks was so offended she was going to go to the board of the theatre, and I had to convince her that my motives were pure. Luckily for the production, I was able to.
KnaveRupe -
Yes, precisely.
Of Mice and Men falls into my personal list of what I consider the top 5 novels I've ever read.
A short story:
Years ago when I taught an enormous cattle class (where you round up the undergards and herd them through the material) at an enormous state u, a colleague (who was then my TA) and I had a running discussion on the "b" word. He didn't think it was as deadly as the "n" word.
Until we got a really disturbing quiz respone that attacked all women in general, Susan Faludi in particular, and contained what the author believed was a justification for rape.
My colleague's head exploded. He was appalled, frightened for all of the women in his life (girl friend, friends, mother, cousins, etc) and then, angry. As he pointed out, he didn't understand how thoroughly indoctrinated he had become about women-hating until it was in his face.
So, good for you Jeese on expelling certain words from your language.
Howzabout the following for insults:
"You tiny-brained wiper of other peoples' bottoms"
A bit long, I agree.
It's funny how the civilized reaction to the use of the pejorative "****" is different from the reaction to the use of the pejorative "dick". I find the former highly offensive, not just because it reduces women to their tool of fornication, but because it degrades a most wonderful body part that deserves to be celebrated.
On the other hand, you call someone a dick and nobody really takes offense. Perhaps that's because we all know that the dick is a basically stupid though indomitably optimistic organ, while the **** is mystery, life, and delight. Which of course is why certain dicks are driven to demean it.
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I replaced your use of the C word with "****". The C word is NOT allowed on this site. Period. I used it once in the post, with appropriate warnings. My blog; my rules.
I don't know you enough Walter to know if your point was sincere. I always assume good faith to begin with, from people, and I do so here. But being sincere does not let you off the hook from using a word I have made clear you and everyone else is not allowed to use.
Everyone -- listen up. This is a banning offense. Don't mess around. Don't push the limits. Seriously. --Jesse
The only time I would ever refer to a woman with the "C" word is when the woman in question has already dehumanized herself by showing herself to be devoid of empathy and the most elementary forms of basic human decency.
{cough}Ann Coulter{/cough}
No, not even for her.
Because it still reduces her to her genitals, and reminds other women that all they have to do is get on your bad side, and they too will be reminded that they're nothing more than their genitals to you. And your current treatment of them as not-genitalia is only provisional.
Coulter is such a target-rich environment that calling her a C--- is just lazy. Surely you can do better than that.
Zuzu is correct.
We don't call ANYONE this word.
We don't give anyone a handle on us where we can be reduced to treating slightly more than half the human race as nothing more than a piece of meat.
Doing so makes us anti-women anti-feminist, actually, anti-human.
Jesse. If I may indulge my past philosophy profs
If I say:
I liked riding the bike.
I am using the word "bike".
If I say:
"Bike" has 4 letters.
I'm mentioning it, but not using it.
It's called the use mention distinction.
It sounds like you want to ban mentioning the word but you are conflating by saying you want to ban it's use.
I don't care about what you do on your blog. But that dude didn't seem to be using the word, but mentioning it. There is a difference to nerds like me.
OK, Jesse. It is your blog. My point was sincere, by the way, and I used the C-word word with reverence, not in a disparaging way, which should have been obvious. I don't think the N-word and the C-word are quite equivalent. I object just as much as you do to the common, derogatory, use of the C-word, but I would never use the N-word under any circumstances. Nor do I ever use the word "bitch." But, like I said, it is your blog, and you can be dick about these things if you like.
I think TomK makes a great point regarding the Use-Mention Distinction, and I tend to agree with him.
If we decide that talking about a word is as bad as using a word, are we doing ourselves and our language a disservice?
I'd be curious, however what TomK's take would be on the following statement by Anne Coulter:
"I was going to have a few comments on the other Democratic presidential candidate, John Edwards, but it turns out you have to go into rehab if you use the word 'faggot,'"
Use? or Mention?
Technically, she's mentioning it, but her intent was clearly to use it in reference to Edwards.
So a total ban policy in a private venue such as this doesn't bother me at all - I trust the fine folks of GNB to run their site how they see fit.
Ann's a lawyer, she figured out that answer before she said it, she figured it out mathematically, logically and legally in terms of a lawsuit or public outrage. It's use disguised as mention.
Just one of a large number of devices that Miss Ann employs to get away with whatever she is getting away with this week. Jesse, why don't you ban the phrase Ann Coulter from the blog and comments so as to deny the attention the Ann person craves? Or just have your bot replace her name with some asterisks -- that would be good enough.
I'll use the c word! Go ahead and ban me!
CTHULHU
CTHULHU
CTHULHU!!!...
Excuse me I'm getting a call...
Gang...
My background as a paramedic makes some decisions very easy for me, in a way perhaps they are not for others.
At the end of a run, the patient is alive, or they are dead. Regardless of quantum mechanics and cats which are both dead and alive until someone collapses the wave-form at which point the cat has always been either dead or alive -- which I do believe to be true, by the way -- my experience is, that which is most true (I know... most true? ...just keep following along -- is also usually (but not always) the most simple. Just like at the end of a run, the patient either is alive or the patient is dead. Period.
Thus, at GNB, we don't use the word. Period.
Anything else is begging the question, messing around, pushing the edges.
The other day I posted how much I love the writing of Daniel Keys Moran. His central character in The Long Run, Trent, says, "Killing is wrong." Doesn't qualify it. Doesn't explain it. Doesn't anything to it. It's just that simple. And gets harder and harder to refute.
Using that word is just plain wrong. And we don't do it here again.
Consider it my holiday gift not just to women, but to men, even if all of them don't know it yet. And to my own children. And to myself.
It's a wrong word.
And as for you, Walter... as I said, I assumed your sincerity from the jump, not knowing you from your previous postings. Your sincerity however, just didn't matter. I'd already said what our standard was, and you did something else.
At the end of the day, you can have a very sincere medic who does something other than what medical control lays out as the standard for medics in that city, say, gives a drug at a different dosage or time intervel, or without checking with medical control -- because that's how they do things in the county he used to work at; which may be a much more medically advanced county, according to the American Heart Association or the American College of Surgeons. Said differently, the medics' actions may be a fully appropriate medic thing to do and the medic may be acting with full sincerity while doing his medic-y best. He might even get away with it if the patient lives through it. But you gave me a dead patient, 'cause you used the word I said not to use. Your intentions -- which I grant you -- don't matter at all.
What I want is for the word not to be used at GNB. That's the only acceptable outcome.
I'm a very simple guy on some things. At the end of the run, the patient is either alive or dead.
What I said about the N-word is, it doesn't quite rise to that level, in terms of my formally banning it at GNB. But you're not going to read me using it here, short of some exceptional piece of writing which rises way, way, way beyond the ordinary, to the level of a work of art which is master-class, and which calls for that word and not for any other word.
I am willing to use either word in a screenplay if the characters in those screenplays would use the words. Artistic use is very different than casual blogging. But it has to be justified with an enormous level of care and thought, and not just in terms of character and story, but also in terms of the impact on the intended audience. It isn't trivial.
Enough. Done with this here.
Language is a remarkable thing indeed. And as a writer, I'm constantly learning things about it every day. The emotional freight of words has always intrigued me, and quite honestly—intrigues me with every post I put together here. I speak each post out aloud before I hit “publish” because hearing it out in the air, reverberating off of walls gives me at least, a better gauge of the impact on the readers.
More than a few times I've altered a post because of how it “sounded” when spoken, as opposed to how it “read”. The “power” of language is a difficult thing to harness, much less direct to get across one's meaning, and you can best bet—I jump onto every post like it was a wild mustang bucking his way past scrub brush and prairie grass, to “break it” so I can ride
it where I want it to go.
A thing I've found is that language—the way we string our words together, mind you—is almost as keyed to tone and rhythm as music is. The very sound of a word in general compositions (sentences) can be almost as powerful as the word's “meaning” itself, and can enhance, diminish, amplify, or alter a word's meaning.
For example, the “N”-word in its original, intensely pejorative use sounds like a hiss. it's a sharp, cutting word meant to draw blood with a slash of its use. Drag it out, and it's a rusty, nicked macheté—hacking at you until it breaks as much as it slices. Hiss it quickly, and it's a slashing blade of a word. Stinging and painful—and ripping its target open almost.
But contextually, a Richard Pryor was able to alter the word's shape as a weapon—taking it away from its main user and turning it into a lesser device to be used intra-racially. The “N“ -word in his hands became the equivalent of the use of “asshole” to describe someone stupid, or as an ironic comment on the “status” of the Black user of the word. He was even able to alter the “sound” and “rhythm” of the word to where he removed its “hissed” edge and blunted it into a “Hey, you!” bop upside the head. The trouble is, Pryor's comedic chops were akin to Picasso in the application of his art. Picasso, before moving to cubism and abstraction, had mastered portraiture and classic skills to the point where he was among the best in the land. It was at that pint where he moved to the next realm. Others followed in his wake—many of them lessers, and went straight to the cubism, without the mastery of the fundamental underpinnings. Thus, upon looking at the work of those who followed after Picasso, many are moved to go “What the fuck is that{“, while Picasso's stuff still indicates such a superb grasp of the basics that his work makes sense—wild as it may appear on its surface.
Comedians who followed in Pryor's wake and didn't have his chops—the timing, the rubber face, the sense of irony, the willingness to reflect on his own pain, the keen powers of observation, and most importantly—the grasp of language—nuance, pitch, and rhythm, merely stole the obvious, surface things that they could get an “Ah!” or “Oh!” with. They appropriated his punctuative use of the “N”-word like an above-the-garage drummer appropraiting a paradiddle from hearing Max Roach use them in his multi-layered drumming. This is why that word still stings and rips when used by lesser talents and always will. It goes to what Jesse and another commenter mentioned upthread about Steinbeck's usage of it in “Mice and Men”. In the hands of a pro, it's like a carny pro's knife toss at a rotating wheel—nailing the perimeter just around the leotarded assistant. The amateurs messily throw it around, mauling everyone nearby...and do.
The word “dick”— is different. It's a brag word as well as a pejorative, and always has been. Its always having had a double-meaning has blunted its negative edge from the jump. “Yeah...I've got a big dick.”, or “She wants some dick.”, or the proud Wall Street term ”Big, Swinging Dicks” spins it as a positive or a desirable, as opposed to a negative. Probably because the owner of said organ has built positives into the inherent meaning of the word. The pejorative however, has also been massaged (pun unintended) to where the word doesn't actually have a de-valuing sexual connotation. Its been rendered into a statement on intelligence or temperament—an adjective (“dick-head”), or a substitutive noun (using “dick” as a switchable word for “jerk”, “idiot”, or annoying person). Furthermore, it's been reduced to a “chuckle word”. You can say it while laughing at its target, and even the target will laugh (if it's a good natured joke—“Be firm, but don't be a dick, Bob!” “I'll try not to be.”), or turn it back on you as a badge of honor through re-contextualizing it, if it's a slam in the original usage. (“The day's gonna come when you're gonna catch it for being such a dick, Bob. Watch and see.” “Yeah, and until that day, I'll keep swingin' this dick, too.”)
Get it?
cont'd.
cont.
Now, the “C”-word....hooooo-boy! It is a word thrown around by the power-holders in society for the most part. It is always a pejorative and has no subtlety to it. It is always a reductive. Reducing the target to a sex organ or a “lowest form of woman” out of blunt anger or simple dismissiveness. It packs such power that even when women use it, they seem to step away from the women they use it against, assuming the rough tone of the “other” in diminishing the target female. “I'm a woman, but she's a real ____.” There is no proud or ironic usage of the word by the ostensible “owners” of that organ—certainly none that has successfully taken in the popular culture. It has no clever switchback. It's a rough, furtive word—in definition as well as in sound.
Aurally, where the “N”-word is a slash, the “C”-word is blunt-force trauma—a punch in the face, and a kick in the gut, even in its sound—a hard consonant, and a percussive rush—a thudding bit of verbiage, hard and hammering.
It's a “door slam” of a word—plain and simple. A ten-ton exclamation point. “Boom!” And it only demeans. The rhythm of it is that of a kick-drum, not a brush or a snare-pop. It does not accent or filigree. it sets the fucking beat, hard, and that is all.
You add it's brutal “sound” with it's nasty, brutal reductiveness and you get such a limited grunt of a word that it's as effective as an unintelligible, animal sound coming from a human mouth. Which for a writer is kind of a waste, unless you're pointing out that the user is an amoral, hateful fuck. It verges on the “cheap” to even deploy it artistically, as it's such an A-bomb of a word. Mamet's plutonium grenade-toss of it in GGR works because of the stakes. Make the sales or die. Blow a big sale that could kill a guy in the room, costing him his job—major stakes—and he'll go nuclear, scorching the earth where the sale-killer stands.
And note Mamet's usage of the word as a preface to sexual diminishment:
RICKY ROMA: You stupid fucking ____. You, Williamson, I'm talking to you, shithead. You just cost me $6,000. Six thousand dollars, and one Cadillac. That's right. What are you going to do about it? What are you going to do about it, asshole? You're fucking shit. Where did you learn your trade, you stupid fucking ____, you idiot? Who ever told you that you could work with men?
I'm going to have your job shithead. i'm going downtown and talk to Mitch and Murray, and I'm going to Lemkin. I don't care whose nephew you are, who you know, whose dick you're sucking on. You're going out, I swear to you, you're going...
...WHAT YOU'RE HIRED FOR, is to help us... does that seem clear to you? TO HELP US, not to... FUCK-US-UP... to help those who are going out there to try to earn a living... You fairy. You company man.
Roma's the slickest, most amoral, most ruthless dude in the room, and for all the sailor talk in the play, 130-plus fucks alone in three acts, as the ultimate alpha-male in the room, he is the only one to go to “C”-word-ville. His success as a salesman is tied into his very manliness. Fuck him out of a sale, and you are not a man in his eyes. And not just a woman...but a “C”-word. The ultimate reductive. The line works when he uses it because it's true to his brutal nature.
And in that, you have a lesson about the word's power, and it's appropriateness. Which is respectively nuclear, and like nuclear weapon use, ultimately not worth it.
It's a point-blank shotgun of a word. No subtlety. Designed to destroy, and in my mind incapable of usage in anything remotely resembling a casual sense. I don't even like the rhythm and timbre of the word. It's a one-note, off-key, off-beat, song-jarring, tuba-honk of a word.
I don't use it and have NO problem with it NOT being used around here.
I must say that Jesse is right in that the policy was clearly stated and I managed to ignore it in my original comment. Sorry about that. I still don't think the C-word word should be banned in all uses -- because that has the effect of accepting the definition of those who use the word disparagingly. I don't accept that definition.
Tell you what Jesse, I'll stop using the Charlie Uniform November Tango word the day my WIFE stops using it, until then as her Sigi relatives might say fuhhgedaboudit.
Walter -
You're fine with me.
Bubba -
I don't care what you do or don't do. Just don't ever use it here, or you're banned. I'm not saying you would... I don't question your respect for people on the board. I'm more using your comment to make the point, yet again for everyone. This is an absolute don't for people here at GNB. *smiles*
LM -
Thanks.
It might be that I'm not a native english speaker, but I consider the american obsession with banning four letter words incredibly uptight. I can't see the difference in using ANY four letter word in comparison to the supposedly worst one that relates to the female anatomy. If I'm in a setting where I'd like to be taken serious, I don't use any of them, neither in this or my native language (german). But I take exception to anyone wanting to ban them, I consider that a breach of the freedom of expression. If I see that any person uses that kind of language in a public forums it tells me a lot about that person, and I don't want to lose that tool.
Hey Matt -
Bitte -- it's been a long time since I lived in Austria, since ich var ein kind at age 11-12, going to the first year of the #4 Bundesgymnasium in Graz for what would have been my 6th Grade year in the United States.
My question is, does the slang for the same word, translate as "foot" in German? It's been a long time and I can't remember precisely. Plus I was a kid.
Please use "****'s" if you need to use the C-word in English.
Thanks so much for expanding my ability to use inappropriate words in multiple languages. *smiles*
As for the point you make, it's not a bad one. We just choose to keep our little circle of the web slightly more civil, in just this one case. I guess it says something about the world we wish to live in. So far as free speech goes, our commitment to free speech is absolute. We are firm in our commitment to government not being able to put limits on free speech. We even believe, that in most cases, the government in the US restricts speech way too much, both actually, and in its chilling effects.
But what private parties do on their own time... that's up to them, mostly.
I still don't think the C-word word should be banned in all uses -- because that has the effect of accepting the definition of those who use the word disparagingly. I don't accept that definition.
You're not exactly in a position to reclaim the word, however.
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