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while we need mroe femal reps. we also need more polititions of all minority groups. I don't think the identity politics games played by emilies list makes it a good group to send money to. IF they stop promoting racist and antismetic canadates. if they stop sendign out racist and antismetic fliers I will think about supportign them.
replacign a group of male authroitarian bigots with a group of female authoritarian bigots is not progress.
moonglum |
07.25.08 - 6:02 am | #
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I agree moonglum.
I wish there was an alternative to Emily's List because Donna Edwards is the exception not the rule with the candidates that they support and I'm not just talking about race.
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Baltogeek is right. Donna's a good lady; worthy of progressive support across the board, but I'd like to know more about this group before I jump on their train. Were they a front for Hillary? If so, it's a big strike against them, in my book.
When Clinton releases her delegates, I'll stop asking questions like this.
(Harrrd, knowing, wink...)
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tanbark: look at teh primary campaign they ran in TN. supported a racist women over an incumbent pregorsive dem..the incumbent is jewish the ads emily's list funded agenist him where all extreamly antisemitic. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bi...html?
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07.25.08 - 8:28 am | #
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any group taht happly pays for fliers taht state "Steve Cohen and the Jews Hate Jesus" has been circulated throughout Memphis"
will never get a dime from me
replaceing racist sexist antismetice white men with racist sexist antismetic white women is not a step in the right direction.
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07.25.08 - 8:31 am | #
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Actually that would be replacing racist white men with a racist black woman backed by a bunch of racist white women.
Nikki Tinker is part of Harold Ford's crew in TN.
When black women like me ask for more inclusion in feminist organizations this is not what we have in mind.
Tinker is also not pro-choice.
A post from Open Left.
Where are the feminists on this one?
It's despicable.
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07.25.08 - 10:48 am | #
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baltogeek: pure identity politics..we don't caer about "them" as long as my group is on top....gues what, im not in your "group" so i am not going to support you.
moonglum |
07.25.08 - 12:07 pm | #
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Wow! You "guys" are all over it.
Grazie. :o)
tanbark |
07.25.08 - 12:15 pm | #
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Where's Bollox?
Can we go OT and talk about Chelski?
:o)
tanbark |
07.25.08 - 12:17 pm | #
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Well, they have been around quite a while and supported many candidates I also liked. It is like actblue actually. If you go into their pages instead of the general fund, you used to be able to donate to a specific candidate.
But the criticism is valid. Being overseas I have not paid as much attention to some of their state races. They were for Hillary, but not a front for Hillary as they have been around way longer than that. AND they do support both Darcy Burner and Did support Donna Edwards.
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I appreciate the good work they've done like their support of Darcy and Donna. but it doesn't surprise me that they've been blinded by the single-issue into not seeing the larger picture...I think the nature of groups like that must be changing, because the folks who see the larger picture and balance that with the concerns of a constituency are going to win, in the long run.
tokyoterri |
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07.25.08 - 4:09 pm | #
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as playing devil's advocate... is this another case of us on the fruitless quest for the perfect instead of the possible? There is truly so little support for female candidates running for office. Should we not embrace that part of the org. and then push from within for better candidates.
Emily's list does not just represent liberal america but also the center. And though we don't like the center-- they are better than the right (except for people like Lieberman and Carney)
littlest hussein gator |
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07.25.08 - 7:29 pm | #
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littlest hussein gator: if you support racists, if you support antisemites, if you try to replace actual progresive dems with blue dogs you will never get my money..
there are good canadates of every gender/race/ethnicity/religion. I will fund them directly, the biggots are not on our side, they may seem to be allied with us, but replaceing on authoritarian crew with another is not progress.
moonglum |
07.28.08 - 6:55 am | #
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moonglum I agree.
but like actblue there is a way on emily's list to give to the candidates of your choice.
who in particular are they supporting that is racist, or antisemitic. I don't doubt you, I just want particulars.
littlest hussein gator |
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07.28.08 - 10:24 pm | #
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