Concur.

"Bring it on."

I've got plenty of firearms (and friends with firearms) and lots of ammo...
thebronze | 11.11.05 - 3:56 am | #

Is the guy retarded, or what? He doesn't understand that there are a hell of a lot of Californians who would take great exception to their car being set on fire, especially Latinos? Sounds like some Darwinism fixing to take place. Bet you one thing, though, his happy ass will be safely south of the border, such as it is.
Byron Audler | 11.11.05 - 4:31 am | #

I'm not so sure he's wrong. He's wrong right -now-, but in five or ten years, if things keep going the way they are? We have a system where a very small portion of wealthy liberals run the legislature and law enforcement of the state. A vast majority of 'poor' immigrants (mostly illegals) are beholden to them, because they rely on the various benefits of the Empire of Social Services that is California in order to support them while they send their money back to their home nations, primarily Mexico.

Where do those services come from? From the rest of us: the people in the middle, the legitimate working class.

The problem is, we're leaving. I've ready study after study that points that out: the population isn't fluctating because we're leaving at nearly the same pace that they're coming in. The job climate is a nightmare, the society and culture are absolutely insane, it's just no place we want to live. I earn a very good hourly wage as a contractor and I can barely make my bills, which makes me a wage slave. Anywhere else, I would be able to make enough to be upper-middle class. What's so bad here? The cost of living.

We're leaving...and when enough of us are gone, the sugar daddies, where are all their social services coming from? At that point, with literal millions of Mexicans ready to take back what they're being told is theirs, yes, it'll be a massacre. That's why it won't work now, they haven't driven out people like you and I yet. But I don't think we're long for this state. It just isn't worth our while to live here, and it's just getting worse.

Are we ready to fight the battle of Los Angeles, as a nation? I hope so, because if we don't so something to eject the enemy invaders that we fondly call 'migrant workers', it's going to happen sooner or later, just like this chucklehead says.
Poor Justin | Homepage | 11.11.05 - 4:54 am | #

Bottom line: We're not French.
douglas | 11.11.05 - 5:12 am | #

To: the last American to leave California; Please remember to bring the flag with you.
Fire!Fire!Fire! | 11.11.05 - 7:03 am | #

I would be sitting on the roof of my car with my remington 870, but i do feal bad for the good people of Washington DC, New York City and now San Fancisco.
Web | 11.11.05 - 9:01 am | #

I don't know...the majority of Californians seem indistinguishable from the French these days. SF has just rendered itself defenseless but they've had a Surrender Monkey mentality for decades already. Now the rest of the state seems ready to join them. I'm trying hard to find any pity.
Peg C. | 11.11.05 - 10:17 am | #

Haha, Froggy, this guy would unwittingly give us a chance to show up France, again!

Thanks to all you Vets. Your work is appreciated all year round!!

On a related note, whatever wind that would make it into this guy's sails would be deflected if we moved up the citizenship process to allow for faster, legal, and common sense entry. The border issue doesn't get fixed because on some level we've always needed cheap labor (years ago it was the Irish and Italians that came in huge numbers, but they came through Ellis Island and it was an actual, delineated process). Once people are legal, the vast majority want a piece of the pie (homeownership, etc) because they recognize opportunity in that, especially compared to where they came from. Of course there will always be legislators that garner support for their own existence by giving away the money we let them collect from us, but still, there would be enough people moving into the country, and moving up, that a guy like this would be an outright embarrassment. I bet he already is to a lot of people.

I think more people don’t want to deal with the citizenship issue because now we have a much more expensive social system than years ago and people would necessarily take more than they at first give. But now we fight over what benefits to give illegals anyway (school, hospital care – and these things seem like we’re rewarding illegal behavior), and they don't assimilate as quickly because they are in a parallel class and can exist without speaking the language. (BTW - I am not happy about a potential mandatory class in Spanish being taught in Florida). If we moved up citizenship, required a sponsor, a showing of a job, and equally distributed family groups into areas that need them and away from areas that don't (through incentives –which would not be perfect but nothing is), I think we might assuage some of the immigrant worker issues. Of course we’d have to make stringent laws about hiring illegals at the same time. And we could expect a big, better organized fight about a hirer minimum wage. We’d have to be prepared for how not being able to hire illegals would impacts small businesses, because it would. I know, it sounds like pushing a boulder uphill but I don’t see how it is going to change unless when people come in, they have an incentive to move up. Right now they have no incentive and they take what they can get. They come here to work illegally, send the money home because there is no chance of their family coming over, and don’t ever really become part of the fabric here which has lent itself to a whole other host of issues. We tried to help Mexico so their own country could flourish more and their people would want to stay, but between corruption, crime, and incompetence, they haven’t moved forward.

We’d all also have to not patronize businesses that use illegals. That’s hard, it’s become so commonplace. Part of me wants to hire them to give them a leg up but if they don’t get to become citizens, what incentive do they have to become vested members of our country?

I think we need a wall on the border because that’s the world we live in, but I also support the right of a child who is born here to be a US citizen. I don’t want to give that up; it’s been a piece of us since the beginning, the thing that differentiates us because anyone can come here and have an opportunity. We really need to fix this issue. We aren’t assimilating as well as we used to because we stuck our collective head in the sand a long time ago on the issue of migrant workers. Just like protecting ourselves overseas, if we don’t work at making sure assimilation happens, it becomes a decrepit system. Because it’s happening in slow motion it isn’t as alarming to us but I think we better wake up.

Adele

PS: RED RIVER, can you please email me?
dellbabe68 | 11.11.05 - 10:45 am | #

Justin, i agree to a point with your argument; but this issue has reached critical mass and the Congress and President cannot continue to ignore it. Also,illegals are not just in California anymore; they have been a focal point in NC and VA politics. We have our own problems with them in West Florida. I have a feeling any insurrection by Mexicans will be met with extreme predjudice nationwide.(well maybe not NY or Mass)

Second Amendment, Baby! French don't have it or the will to use it.
MMC(SW) | Homepage | 11.11.05 - 10:54 am | #

They have a strong, anti-Semitic streack in them too. Much of what they write sounds like they have been reading Mein Kampf and the Protocols.

http://www.aztlan.net/ eradicate_...cate_israel.htm

Why is it that socialists and communists end up hating Jews so much?
Jarrod J. Williamson, Ph.D. | Homepage | 11.11.05 - 11:37 am | #

Jarrod you are a PhD?
They hate the Jews because they find it easier to blame anyone but themselves.
The Jews, for their part are the willing victims.
How many Jews in the U.S. are against Israel? How many Jews subscribe to the Victim Mentality of the Left?
'Nuff' said.
Sean H. | 11.11.05 - 12:09 pm | #

Second Amendment absolutist here.

Speaking as a Californian, I am ready, willng, and well equipped to put down any efforts at insurrection in my little corner of paradise.

To the non Californians, don't forget that the riots taught many to prepare for this kind of nonsense ahead of time.
CITADELGRAD87 | 11.11.05 - 12:41 pm | #

I linked several sites in regards to Aztlan and MEChA in the comments area of "Hot Nights in Paris" below.

Regarding Socialist and Communist hatred of the Jews, simple and short answer is the easiest. Atheist groups remove God, Jews are God's People. Bible says they will be hated "for My Namesake."

Not complicated.
rm | 11.11.05 - 12:59 pm | #

I would add that Jews tend to be a self sufficient group and rely on one another. Generally speaking they are not apt to rely on government. So in a way they represent people who can make it on their own and that contradicts the socialists and communists mightily.
dellbabe68 | 11.11.05 - 1:12 pm | #

Froggy,

"I wouldn't stand by while Ernesto lit my truck on fire offering more welfare benefits, illegal alien tuition breaks, and Driver's Licenses. I can tell you that"

That sounded exactly like the reasons I support Jim Gilchrist over the Republican endorsed candidate, John Campbell down here in Orange County. Campbell has voted to give illegals in state tuition rates, voted for matricular consular cards, and said that "they're here already so we might as well give em the benefits" to an OC Register reporter a few years ago. What good are Republicans if they're voting to give the store away.

Powder Blue Report
Allan Bartlett | Homepage | 11.11.05 - 1:15 pm | #

Does anyone really think that large numbers of Mexicans working here in the U.S. would support an insurrection? These are not stupid people. They are perfectly aware that no one in the U.S. is sneaking across the border seeking jobs in the Mexican economy. They can easily see the strength of the U.S. economy that supports them. I cannot imagine them wanting to turn over a part of the U.S. economy to the Mexican system. If anything, they would probably wish that the U.S. would annex the part of Mexico their relatives live in.
JohnDewey | 11.11.05 - 1:57 pm | #

Sean H.

It was more of a rhetorical question.

I generally think that Dennis Prager has the best asnwer as to why the Left (as well as islamofascists) hates both Israel and America:
http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0103/ prager011403.asp

Because America alone (and the little America in the Middle East, Israel) prevents the expansion of Islamic rule.

Because expansionist totalitarian movements, whether Soviet communism or radical Islam, always hate free societies, and America is the strongest free society.

Because America is not only strong, it is religious (as opposed to Europe, which is weak and irreligious).

Because America is not only Christian; it is Judeo-Christian, the two religions the Islamists need to overcome to expand globally.

and
http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0602/prager1.asp
America embodies all that the left dislikes. It is the most religious of the industrialized democracies (proudly and uniquely Judeo-Christian). It is also the most capitalist. And, what drives the left especially crazy is that with all this religion and capitalism, America is the most powerful force on earth -- economically, militarily and culturally.


Israel is Little America. It, too, is religious (though a secular state like the United States, it is proudly Jewish). It, too, celebrates capitalism. There are no demonstrations in Israel against McDonald's. On the contrary, even before McDonald's opened there, Hebrew replicas like "McDavid's" were established.


And Israel, like America, celebrates its national identity, not the "world" identity that the left affirms. The left loathes nationalism unless it is anti-Western, like Palestinian or Cuban. America does not jump to attention when world treaties are signed and Israel is the U.N.'s pariah, rendering America and Israel the left's "axis of evil," far more reviled than Iran, Iraq and North Korea.
Jarrod J. Williamson, Ph.D. | Homepage | 11.11.05 - 2:02 pm | #

I also have firearms. I agree with Matt.
Hoooyaaa!
Rod Stanton | 11.11.05 - 3:29 pm | #

You don't suppose they would take donations to speed the process up, do you? Best to get to the dancing while the music's playing. I mean I have plans and they tend to spend SO much time yapping first. Given they would also have such poor language skills, we might wish to translate a quote for them into Spanish, just for Ernesto's sake:
Un hombre tiene que saber sus limitaciones. (H. Callahan)
Mark Barrone | 11.11.05 - 3:52 pm | #

Those guys need to focus on cleaning out their own house first. Even if they could take back the territories they would only be the rulers of the ashes. Whatever is not be destroyed in the effort would be turned to crap by the Mexican government. People leave Mexico by the millions to get to a first world country and at least have a shot at better life, they already know third world sucks.

By the way, I'm talking about Mexico as a group of corrupt leaders, not a race of people.
STREETER | Homepage | 11.11.05 - 4:14 pm | #

Froggy, and any other Vets on here - I Thank You for your service to our great country! Happy Veterans Day!
MissBirdlegs in AL | 11.11.05 - 5:45 pm | #

Wow, see what happens when Cienfuegos's Mom lets him use the PC?

C'mon Froggy you live here in Southern Califonia. Who are you gonna listen to, the ravings of a moron who failed toilet training up until he was 12, or the solid folks that build the small businesses into family enterprises around us?

I'm watching my neighborhood slowly turn over as the Italian restaurants and vegetable stands that former fishermen built become taquerias and bodegas that will do the same thing, send their sons and daughters to college to become doctors, lawyers and engineers. My new neighbors are like the neighbors I grew up with in this neighborhood, speaking a foreign language to their grandparents (an possibly parents), and competing with native english speakers in the neighborhood schools.

The mouthy ne'er-do-wells then were limited to running off smeary mimeographs that were easily tossed away. No one did them the favor of taking them seriously, or confusing their ravings with threats to our society.
Jon Gallagher | Homepage | 11.11.05 - 6:14 pm | #

Froggy, Happy Veterans Day. Thank you and all the Veterans who have worn the uniform and served our country. You are the reason we don't have to worry about racist idiots like Ernesto. If this ever did happen, many of us would stand shoulder to shoulder with you to defend our homes and property. That's why we need to protect the second ammendment. Good luck to you San Francisco, you are on your own.
Right Wing Wacko | 11.11.05 - 6:29 pm | #

Happy veterans day Froggy,and once again thank you for your service.This guy really is stupid if he thinks that Americans are like the French people,now granted some are,But the majority of us aren't.Ernesto talks big but he hasn't seen up close of those that are second amendment loyalists,he and his band of goons would be wiped out in no time.Ernesto, if you are reading this all I can say is Molon Labe.
Lisa Gilliam | 11.11.05 - 9:46 pm | #

What the hell is wrong with that guy? Isn't he aware of the 2nd amendment? Not to mention San Diego navy base, Camp Pendleton, Edwards Air Force base, Fort Irwin National Training center. There's some first-rate American asskicking hardware in SoCal. So how stupid do you have to be to think that won't matter?
Brian | 11.12.05 - 4:44 pm | #

I read Ernesto's link which I thought was unreal then I clicked on home and read a couple articles and scrolled through his headlines.....this guy is very sick. I pray the mexican people of both the US & Mexico understand that he is ill and do not believe him.
Just Me | 11.12.05 - 9:21 pm | #

All the Mexicans I know work 12 hours a day and support at least a half dozen other people. The people who do the best custom auto interiors in the world burning cars? I doubt it.
Curtis Kreutzberg | 11.13.05 - 2:10 pm | #

"Hey Mojado I got my Winchester 30/30 and plenty ammo, Por Favor come to me babbee"
They don't even want to make the Southeastern USA into Mexico, HELL that's why they left Mexico in the first place!
Barry 0351 | 11.13.05 - 8:23 pm | #

Ernesto and his Astlan/Mecha counterparts are utter morons. These imbeciles are products of our "Multicultural" California Universities, that promote this rubbish. They have created degrees and programs of "Chicano Studies" that indoctrinate all students whith their Alta California nonsense. In order to earn degrees all students have to take courses that show ethnic diversity. They have no concept of California history, where prior to becoming a U.S. State Mexicans in California called themselves "Californios" and repeatedly beat and sent back governors of the territory chosen by Mexico and sent north. These people had no desire to be a part of Mexico.

As an American of Mexican descent, I am ashamed of the state of affairs. What ever happened to the great melting pot. Liberal america is dividing this greatest of nations by promoting the labeling of its people. There should not be Mexican-Americans, African-Americans, Asian-Americans, Chicanos, Hispanics. The only label that should be used is American. These labels are divisive and need to be eradicated.

Keep up the good work Froggy. Stay vigilant.
Arturo C. | 11.13.05 - 11:31 pm | #

re: Cienfuegos and MEChA

Please do not underestimate the racism of the Aztlan crowd. They own the public schools and our universities. They get tons of our public money to publish their racist rant.

Look up Aztlan. They want to drive all non-mexicans from the five western states. Just like the PLO.
JoeS | 11.13.05 - 11:34 pm | #

I propose a blog-salute to ArturoC. If a real poll was ever taken of Hispanic Americans, I believe most would agree with the wise and sensible Arturo. Why the hell are they leaving their countries of origin? Because America is the land of opprtunity for real, not some socialist bullshit to excuse a dictator. I'm glad Arturo is here because he sounds like a REAL AMERICAN.
Way to go, Arturo.
Brian | 11.14.05 - 9:48 am | #

I’ve been in the situation were people threaten and even attempted to burn or claim our cars and homes and we did kick their sorry asses back into the stone ages. But we had more than just numbers against us; we had the world community (fueled by the MSM bull), Sanctions, the fact that the opponents were mainly black and our countries biggest mistake ever – apartheid – against us. So even though we won the “battle”, we ended up loosing the “war”.

Please don’t get me wrong, I don’t mean to compare ZA’s apartheid stories with this; what I do mean to say is that you guys must never allow this to happen. ZA’s once strong economy and safe living conditions have now escalated into something out of a fiction novel with murder, rape and theft as common as the sun rising in the morning.

Stand strong and protect what is rightfully yours.
Jan | 11.14.05 - 10:17 am | #

Like I said in the previous comment, these hispano-supremacist jerkoffs don't have a clue what is waiting for them if they DARE to try and start something like that article hints at. The citizens of the soutwestern USA will not put up with any crap like that. I don't care what color you are, either. If by some chance the people themselves, and the police, and the NG couldn't handle it, there is lots of first rate active duty military whoopass in the area.

Like Froggy said, I Dare You.
Brian | 11.14.05 - 11:28 am | #

Yeah, I figured now would be a good time to announce the forming of a new political group. It's called OWCISROR, which stands for Old World Chinese Immigrants Seeking Right of Return. You see, north america was originally inhabited by nomadic tribes that wandered across the land bridge where the Bering Strait is now located. These early immigrants most likely migrated along with the buffalo, which were their primary food source, and were arguably the first settlers of this land. Nobody knows exactly what became of them, but they certainly have the right of return over everybody else. That's why our group advocates the invention of a time machine, to go back, find these people, and give them the land they deserve!
Chauncy Biggins | 11.14.05 - 4:07 pm | #

Chauncy, that is HIRLARIOUS!
dellbabe68 | 11.14.05 - 4:53 pm | #

Matt,

I live in AZ and I wouldn't put something like this past Ernie's group or La Raza but I will say this, I have an M4 Carbine and a Glock 20 that I would love to put to good use.

-Steve O.
Steve | 11.14.05 - 8:25 pm | #

Multiply SteveO by several million.
Brian | 11.15.05 - 11:37 pm | #

Michelle Malkin on the border.

"Haven't seen much coverage of the standoff over the weekend between US Border Patrol agents and armed Mexican bandits. The El Paso Times reports:

A marijuana-laden dump truck got stuck in the Rio Grande on Thursday evening in Hudspeth County, leading to a standoff between U.S. law enforcement and what appeared to be the Mexican military, sheriff officials said.

"It's a very serious incident," Hudspeth County Chief Deputy Mike Doyal said.

"We are very fortunate (Thursday) night no one got hurt," Doyal said. "Everyone had the presence of mind not to cause an international incident, or start shooting."

The incident began when Border Patrol agents tried to stop the dump truck on Interstate 10, sheriff's officials said. The truck fled to Mexico in the Neely's Crossing area.

The truck got stuck in the riverbed, and the driver took off running. Agents "started to retrieve the bundles (of marijuana) when the armed subjects appeared," said Agent Ramiro Cordero, a Border Patrol spokesman.

The Border Patrol called Hudspeth County sheriff's deputies and Texas state troopers for backup, both agencies confirmed.

Doyal said the truck driver returned with the armed men, including men who arrived in official-looking vehicles with overhead lights and what appeared to be Mexican soldiers in uniform and with military-style rifles."

http://michellemalkin.com/archiv...ives/ 003962.htm
Michelle Malkin: DISORDER AT THE BORDER
Brian | 11.21.05 - 4:13 pm | #