I think we need to snatch the two of them up, drop them in the bad side of Bagdad, and see how long it takes to scream for the troops to come save their sorry asses...and how long it would take the troops to decide they were worth the trouble.
Pock 'em all, none of them worth spitting on.
I thought that Iraqis (and Syrians, and Iranians, and....) were already terrorizing Iraqis. Why is Kerry saying that the they should be doing something they're already doing? Also, what are 'sort of customs'?
Dean should just go back to screaming. That was infinitely more amusing (and made more sense) than anything else that I've ever heard come out of his mouth, YEAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!.
On a side-note a screaming match between Howard Dean an Steve Balmer would be great. They'd probably make a ton of money off it on pay-per-view.
Why can't we start prosecuting for treason? When did doing this go out of style? I think it's a good idea to prosecute these guys for treason and as punishment, carry out the suggestion of Byron Audler. I would LOVE to see that on video, by the way.
The Defeatist Party, oops, I mean, Democrat Party is imploding and self-destructing. Zell Miller said it is a National Party No More (name of his book). I predict a new opposition party will arise consisting of moderate republicans (rinos) and conservative democrats.
The rest of the dems can go ... well ... to the dark side of Baghdad.
I agree with the above commenter. We have effectively decided that treason and sedition no longer exist. That 'dissent' is tolerable in any form, at any time, from anyone in any position. When it comes to America's interests abroad, it is not only permissable to yell 'fire' in a crowded theater, it's encouraged and applauded.
I don't think charging Kerry and Dean with sedition is an ad hominem attack.
Calling them anti-american, appeasing, yellow bellied cowards...now there's your ad hominem.
In happier times both Kerry and Dean would have been hung for their comments. I guess we'll just have to be satisfied with knowledge that in their vile attempt to pander to their base they have managed to alienate a majority of Americans.
once again the right in this country is distorting the truth. how many americans would like to have mexican soldiers come banging on your door at 3 a.m.? not many i would assume. and while this veteran understands the sheer anger of many servicemembers have towards the moonbat wing of the democratc party refering to 60 million american belonging to a "part of losers" is a little harsh in my opinion.
Tommy in nyc,
I note that, typically, the accusations come without any proof of the charges. Kerry cannot be allowed to slander the troops without proof anymore. Those that take his word as enough proof are a "party of losers."
Tommy, of course no one wants troops banging on your door, no matter the hour of the day.
Unfortunately, with embedded terrorists and as you know, if you are a veteran, less than 100% foolproof intel we must break down a few doors to catch the bad guys.
My friend serving in Fallujah, his troops, our military in general, and our entire country are NOT terrorists and do NOT seek to proactively terrorize the population of Iraq. In fact we go to great lengths to mitigate the negative impacts on the civilian population, the easiest thing would be to round up everyone and sort them out-- we do not do that.
I truly resent, strongly, the explicit statement that they behave as such. I will oppose those who say they are, and hope that this series of statements will result in revelation of the type of people running the Democratic Party.
Tommy,
Comment part 2. If, in fact, the troops are actually guilty of breaking down doors (and I am not convinced they are, absent proof), why would it be wrong for us but okay for the Iraqi's?
OK I am well aware of the professionlism our the troops overseas. Sometimes they make mistakes and collateral damage happens and that fact does without question setback what our mission is in iraq. Do some members of the democratic party use these setbacks for cheap political gain yes sadly this is also true. However there a fair honest people on the left wondering what the hell can this country do to really get iraq on track. Corruption,human-rights abuses,lawlessness, and deep secratian factionlism are a fact of life in iraq. These will be very difficult challenges to overcome. And I
I would agree with tommy in nyc except that 60 million americans being led by the moonbat wing of the Democratic Party is the problem...and unless and until the party leadership starts listening to its more sane members like Joe Lieberman and Zell Miller I don't have much hope for its future or ours for that matter. There is a move afoot to unseat Lieberman as we speak. The party of "free speech as long as its MY free speech" has decided that fellow Democrats like Joe Lieberman are traitors to the "cause"...the cause of defeating Republicans and the cause of, unfortunately, defeatism. A pretty ugly picture that no amount of free speech talk can put a positive face on. Truth to power is fine...but whose truth? Truth is what it is. It doesn't belong to any one person or party.
All I know is that this former Democrat (Independent now) will not lift a finger to help any Democratic politician until and unless "the party" starts regaining its sanity. They have hit bottom yet just seem to keep on digging. Sigh.
The comments on this blog are the reason I keep coming back. Keep them coming. Thanks to Froggy for this comments section and to all the guys out there who are fighting to keep our right to do so. It is our precious right, for ALL of us.
Carol Johnson
(contiued from above) and i think it is reasonable to question how we are conducting this war.Mark Sears it isn't wrong for our troops to do what they need to do to provide security. What i am saying is that i'm pretty sure no one would want foreign troops waking yer family up at 3a.m..
Tommy, you need to go on a few tactical entries with your local police to see what kind of messed up people inhabit your own hometowns.
Now, imagine instead of finding 14 year old girls strung out on coke, you find women and mens' headless torsos and dozens of bombs ready to go in a room full of ak-47 toting crazies.
Its a matter of safety for the troops and for the civilians that you go barging in at 3am and dominate the structure.
It's worth noting on this day, the 64th anniversary of the Pearl Harbor attack, that most of the members of the antiwar America First movement in the 1940s got behind the President and the war effort once we committed our troops to battle. That's what you call a "loyal opposition." We still have an opposition today. It's just that loyalty has gone out of style.
I'd hang both JfnK and Dean the Scream upside down by their genitals from a bridge in Fallujah and let the birds pick them both down to the bones.
Thank God for Freedom of Speach!
Otherwise how would we know the depth of insanity that the Dems have sunk to.
I think Kerry and Dean would make a fine pair of FO's (Forward Observers) in Iraq. We could take up a collection to arm them with plenty of blank ammo and blank adaptors, for their weapons. I can hear the First Sergeant telling them, "OK, 2nd Lieutenant Kerry, 2nd Lieutenant Dean...move out and draw fire"!!!!
Merry Christmas to all our troops and their families!
Nice to see you back, Peg.
Dems have calculated that if they can “just get the war to stop” (said in whiny voice that looks longingly in the distance towards France), they might get some traction for their ideas (read: "take back control!" Code Pink! Code Pink!). I have not looked so forward to an election in my life. I cannot wait for '06 and '08. The gig is up. Thanks to the blogosphere, news sources are continually checked, bias is exposed, and their BS is seen for what it is.
Go to newyorktimes.com and see if they report on Dean's latest comment about how we won't win in Iraq. Not a chance. They will deem it un-newsworthy because to them it doesn't report "real news." Real news is when you agree with them or when something embarrasses the U.S.. They believe their own BS because they only hang out with people like themselves (read: snarky parties for pod - oops, I mean enlightened people). When one of them tries to point this out to the others, it comes out in the form of a book called "What's the Matter with Kansas."
What’s the matter with NYC for being the abortion capital of the country? Not real news, sorry. Abortions after 21 weeks? Nope, not newsworthy either.
For the side of the fence that is all tactics and no principal, they can't even get the tactics right. And they want to lead the country?
Ditto Peg,
Glad to see you are back. We missed you. What they said.
well this city boy has seen enough of youse on the right screw things up.
Washington Post this morning
"Strong antiwar comments in recent days by House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi and Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean have opened anew a party rift over Iraq, with some lawmakers warning that the leaders' rhetorical blasts could harm efforts to win control of Congress next year."
THIS is what I'm talking about! Hey Dem Leaders how about doing the RIGHT thing by your own country instead of worrying about the possible "backlash" causing you to lose seats in the next election. The time to worry about that stuff is BEFORE you open your mouth! What does it say about things when the first reaction is "gee, maybe we should ACTUALLY listen to american voters instead of Hollywood! Morons!!! Take your incessant polls and shove 'em where the sun don't shine!
Carol Johnson
Tommy in NYC...go back under your bridge...give the computer back to your parents...go eat some Fruit Loops, smoke some dope, and watch the Cartoon Channel, and it will all be better in the morning.
Tommy...you're nothing but a troll.
Tommy,
Too bad it didn't last. This blog has no patience for moonbattery and we're not open to wanting to see them back in office again. Others who are regulars have heard me say this but I used to be dark blue and have since switched to red (while being registered an Indy all the while)... Dems have lost their moorings and are conflicted about US power. I don't want conflicted people in office; I want them to know they are US citizens, not world citizens, and defend us for a change. Solid morals and a clear difference between right and wrong isn't bad either. You have seemed like a reasonable guy but there may not be much we agree on in the end. Sorry.
Shudder.
Can you imagine what the U.S. would have been like if Howard Dean had become President while our troops were deployed?
The Democratic Party is showing it's real colors this week. To start, let's all agree that ever Karl Rove couldn't have chosen a better Chairman of the DNC than Howard Dean. His "we can't win" rant absolutely characterizes the heart of Democratic philosophy. And his grasp on facts, and history, is as tenuous as his grasp on reality. He claims that 26,000 Americans died in Vietnam, but, if he would go to the Vietnam Memorial he would find the names of 58,195 Americans who fought and died there, and who were betrayed by politicians in Washington who were just as misinformed as Dean is today.
Then we have John Kerry, who isn't satisfied that he slandered every single single American who served with honor in Vietnam by charaterizing us as "baby killers." Now he is doing exactly the same thing to this generation of American service men and women. With absolutely no proof, or even evidence that it actually happened, he charges that Americans routinely teoorize "innocent children" in the night.
And what of John Murtha, who demands immediate withdrawal of all American forces from Iraq? When that plan is seen to be ridiculous by nearly everyone he claims that what he really wants is to withdraw American forces to the periphery of Iraq such as Kuwait or Okinawa. I don't know how Murtha defines "periphery" but Webster says it means on the edge or border. In reality, Okinawa is in the Pacific Ocean 5,000 miles from Iraq. Which is almost as far as the distance from Baghdad to Washington, D.C. (6000 miles).
Another well known national Democrat is Lyndon Johnson's Attorney General, Ramsey Clark, who is currently doing his best to prove to the world that Saddam is merely a misunderstood product of his environment and that all of the problems in Iraq are the fault of George Bush and his relentless aggression against his totally innocent client.
And, as a final comment, let's not forget the Great White Whale, Teddy Kennedy, who regularly pontificates against the Iraq policy, and who routinely denegrates the American military, but who has NEVER bothered to visit Iraq.
Zell Miller is absolutely right. Democrats are "A National Party No More." They have earned the distrust of every man and woman who has worn the uniform.
I don't know how Murtha defines "periphery" but Webster says it means on the edge or border. In reality, Okinawa is in the Pacific Ocean 5,000 miles from Iraq. Which is almost as far as the distance from Baghdad to Washington, D.C. (6000 miles).
I wondered the same when he said he wanted our troops in Japan. Huh?
Marine6, what great comments (all of them.
The White Whale! LOL!
What Tommy and the Dems fail to understand is that many of these house-to-house raids are accomplished with the help of the Iraqi people via "tips." As the Iraqis see their own soldiers acting to protect them in greater numbers (with the Coalition forces as back-up), they are giving up terrorists and weapons caches more and more. Get the facts! You have free access to the websites of the Department of Defense, the Multi-National Task Force, and all the websites of each branch of the military. Liberals love to make things up and say they're facts. Not good enough anymore. I have a very good friend in Bagdad right now - a platoon sergeant who not only goes on 24/7 patrols but who is also training about 130 Iraqis to be soldiers and protect their own country. Nothing like getting the truth from the horses mouth, which Liberal Dems like Murtha, Pelosi, T. Kennedy and Kerry have obviously failed to do.
Missed you guys, too...
This Tommyboy sounds exactly like this monkyboy moonbat who is infecting Roger L. Simon's comments. The idiots are out in full force.
Best comment on Murtha was by Mickey Kaus: "Sorry, this man seems confused. In his current state I wouldn't follow him either into battle or out of it."
The thing that amazes me is that the Dems are STILL trying to figure out (for public consumption) where they stand on Iraq and the GWOT!! While they excoriate and demonize our military. Two months ago they thought nirvana was at hand and the Republicans were totally self-destructing. But Kerry, Dean and the whole miserable cast of characters can't keep their fat yaps shut and once again they reveal their vile and repugnant selves, aided and abetted by an absolutely obsessive/compulsive media. Hideous bunch of unpatriotic scum, the lot of 'em.
The Loony Left Monbat brigade is the reason I know longer consider myself a Democrat.Harry Reid and others are more concerned about the party than they are about the country.They constantly keep stepping into @@$#!This is a terrible strategy and its continuing to show.They can't win any elections unless it is where a bunch likeminded lefties reside.I have never seen such stupidity on display like this,these folks like Zell Miller said are challenged in common sense as well as decency.Kerry mistakenly thought he could repeat the same thing 34 years later and nobody would know it!Ha! it seems that the left is still stuck in a time warp and they can't really adjust themselves to the twenty-first century,also they are fooling that many people anymore.They better be happy to have Lieberman,because seeing how the dems have doing nationally,had better face the music,the stuff they advocate has been proven not to work so why hold on to something that is a proven failure?All Kerry did with his comments is vindicate the Swiftboat Veterans.Now I want to know how long will take for Bush and the Republican controlled Congress to finally hold The left responsible for their treasonous actions.He waits too long to respond and he keeps giving the wrong response.The American people are tired of having to carry his water for him,because we have.I hope he soon rather than later remember his words after 9/11 about your either against us or for us,he should back this talk up with action,because all the talk in the world won't stop them!When he tells the DOJ to start bringing up charges of treason and adding the old media to the mix,he isn't serious about prosecuting the war hear at home.Glad your back peg.
I just sent off hot chocolate, candy canes, Christmas cards and marshmellows for 32 soldiers at Walter Reed. I sent it all to Joshua Sparling (per Michelle Malkin) along with a Santa hat so he can play Santa for me.
I got a video camera for my birthday (don't ask me how old, okay) Anyway, I'm going to go out tonight and take a movie of all the neat Christmas decorations in the neighborhood and send him that too.
See y'all later!
Carol Johnson
Well,
While Condi Rice is over in Europe trying to convince governments that we don't torture anybody it's against the law...John F'ng McCain is on Imus's talk show saying we're still torturing people!!! What the hell??? Does this douche bag think at all before he opens his mouth? Good God!!!
Also, it has been rumored that the Dems next move is to try to cut funding for the war - a stunning betrayal if it is allowed to happen. They CANNOT be allowed to do this under any circumstances. This is the same sh*t they pulled in the vietnam War. I'm going to be on the horn to Hastert again to try and get this stopped dead in its tracks.
Carol Johnson
Carol, what a nice idea!!!!! (the video)... they will love that.
Plame is a dem and wants that made clear and, apparently, so does Smokin Joe Wilson.
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