Search for "A Big Irish Ballad" on YouTube. You might find it amusing ......


Made it easy and put it as the homepage link in this comment.


You're saying I shouldn't wear my 'Black and Tan' uniform to the parade, aren't you?


I think there are at least as many 'Scots-Irish' Irishmen in the US as Irish Catholic. They have just been here long enough to lose the hyphenation when describing themselves.


The orange thing is because of William III, right?


Yes. It was chosen as the color of the protestant unionists; because the "orangemen" of William and Mary were likewise protestant loyalists, who suppressed catholicism (rather brutally, though nowhere near the extent of Cromwell).

Essentially, it represented the opposite of traditional Irish green. The flag of the orangemen for example consists of an orange field with a blue star (the explicit williamite flag), and the st' georges flag as a standard in the corner.

The Irish Tricolor national flag is green to represent the catholic community, orange to represent the protestant community, and white to represent peace and unity between them.


You know, if they wouldn't be harassed by the government/attacked by the drug-dealing thugs, Ireland would probably be a great place to send Missionaries... provided both sides could be made to understand that it's the Anglicans and the Catholics involved in that mess... (More rival crime syndicates, I think.)


Actually, the Mormons are having great success recruiting in Ireland.


As I mentioned on Kim's blog, one year I did wear an orange shirt once for St Pat's. We had a particularly obnoxious wanna-be "Irishman" who couldn't find the island on a globe if you started him in England. Really big on the legends but not the facts.

He didn't even notice the orange. Point made even if he didn't get it. Some of the other folks had a problem with keeping a straight face that day though...


I'm Scotch-Irish, so I'll get drunk and beat the fook out of meself!



That's what I thought. Pity, really, I have considerable respect for William III. Of course, one also has to understand that by 1688, the Catholic/Protestant divide in Great Britain had much more to do with politics (and keeping one's ears above one's shoulders) than actual religious differences...

And the Mormons are having success recruiting EVERYWHERE.

I enjoy your St. Patrick's Day posts, btw.


Rather heavier on the Scots side here myself. Within the last few generations on both sides of the family we've had a couple of Hughs, an Angus or two, and enough Margarets that I'd probably have to use scientific notation to count them all. On the other hand, my maternal grandmother was a Reily from Boston. Paternal grandmother was a Drummond from Richmond (IIRC) who ended up on the Eastern Shore bayside from Chincoteague.


The most amusing take I've seen on it has an example on youtube here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h...h?v=heteX-8- qdg (The Orange and The Green)


I'm Scottish and Irish, my Grandmother was Mary, my mother is Leanne, my sister is Megan Elizabeth, my nieces and nephews are Patrick, Elizabeth, Thomas, and Katherine, and I wear orange on St. Patrick's day.

And if anyone wants to throw a punch at me for it, they're welcome to the first shot, but the last'll be mine.


They've got no right to beat up anyone for wearing orange, mainly because they've done a crappy job at letting us know it's offensive. Until I read your post, I'd never heard of this no-orange business.


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