Because they are useful tools that can be used to incite rage among the electorate. The average American will look at this and his support of the Iraq war will go up about 10 to 15 percentage points.
Paul,
I think you're giving far too much credit to British lawmakers. They don't have the spine or the good sense to deport these people. They're too concerned about a liberal backlash.
Sorry. Black Helicopter Reflex - that's BHR for short.
Oh, well that's okay then. I have those episodes myself sometimes. Very understandable.
They are allowed to stay because a free and confident society allows for a robust exchange of views, even views one may find discomfiting.
At what point does dissent become treason? This group, al-Muhajiroun, recruits for terrorism. Two of their British members were responsible for the suicide bombing that destroyed a Tel Aviv nightclub earlier this year.
Well Rod,
Maybe I do have a point then. Why else would you let traitors stay unless they were useful?
Rod's point is well taken. If we make war not only on terrorist but on states which support them, why do we not destroy organizations which recruit terrorists?
This might seem like a bombshell...
How does this square with the position that the bishops have stating that people have a right to migrate?
If we look at Tom Tancreado (sp) of Colorado, both parties in the USA treat him as persona non grata. Immigration is the topic that dare not speak its name. Anyone who suggests that these people should be deported is immediately labeled as racist!
Yes, I agree.
That they are treasonous.
Lots of deportations should be occurring, here in the good ol'USA too! I do get alarmed by the Church's willingness to aid and abet illegal immigration into the US.
What? Deport these people and stop clasping an asp to our bosom?! What about diversity?! I mean, our children should grow up living with people who view them as faithless sub-humans fit only for the death or slavery!
To keep them under surveillance? Because they *are* useful for policy purposes? Perhaps for other reasons I won't go into.
A certain knowledgable person told me once that the ---- security services knew of most if not all of the people on the 'enemy' side in their territory. Why arrest people when you know where they are and what they're doing, he said? Then you have to start all over again. Keep them neutralized and in the 'bank' and cash them in them as needed.
Of course, no government service is infallible, and not all the brains are on one side.
If you think the British government is simple and incompetent, then that's the explanation you prefer. It's the easy one. Personally, I can't help but notice that there are no recent incidents of Islamist terrorism on British soil.
Pavel:
You might have a point.
Also such 'loud' groups like this are (i'm guessing a bit here) easier to plant someone in that could lead to capture bigger fish.
Having said that, what a bunch of fools. It would be nice to kick them out
Pax
Deport these people? And stop clasping the asp to our bosom? Cease allowing those who wish to kill and enslave us to operate freely in our midst? What about *diversity*?! And wouldn't such self-defense only enrage them further?!
Come on, people. Accept dhimmitude. That way no one can accuse you of being intolerant. Just a worthless infidel who deserves death or enslavement.
Sorry for the double post. I thought the first one had been lost in another one of Haloscan's flashbacks.
Again, sorry.
Yes, I agree. Pavel makes a fine point. "Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer." There haven't been any terror attacks by radical Islamists in Britain... yet. But when you see a rabid dog, it's better for the community that the dog be destroyed rather than let it run free and wreak whatever havoc it may.
Maybe its because at least two - that I can recall - alerts in the UK of imminent terrorist attacks have been thwarted that there has not yet been any incidents on British soil. Is that because the British Anti-ter. forces have been so good, or is that just a political spin? Who knows - not me. But because it hasn't happened yet does not mean it will not.
Come on now, folks. If we are really going to get into conspiracies, let's go for it:
They are useful for intimidating the Irish, of course!
Which reminds me:
Paddy was walking home from the pub through a rough part of town. He feels the cold steel of a gun at the back of his head and a gruff voice with a thick brogue says, "well, what are ya, then, Catholic or Protestant."
Now Paddy might be three sheets to the wind, but he has a quick wit. "Neither," says he, "I'm Jewish."
"Well," chuckles the gruff voice, "then I must be the luckiest damn Arab in all of Belfast."
Ghoulish, I know.
Would you like to keep track of a flamboyant cleric with a big beard who denounces the infidel at every opportunity, or find the quiet, obscure little grocer in the suburb who gives easy credit to the local pensioners, free sweets to the neighborhood kiddies, and keeps a suitcase nuke in the basement?
We're used to films, aren't we, in which the villain wears a neon sign on his tie that flashes 'villain' so the audience won't have to crease its brow.
His smile is crooked, and his manner is brutal. These days his expensive spectacles are very dark.
During the cold war there were targets the other side could be depended upon to try to penetrate. Access was the important thing. It was government against government.
How many people in London have access to the Underground?
Bakri told NBC the actions of the hijackers were sanctioned by God: “If God did not permit that to happen, (it) would never happen.”
If our SAS happened to exterminate this people, since it happened, God sanctioned it.
The bishops say all kinds of things, some of them quite unfortunate...
Do you want a list? LOL
We all say unfortunate things. I've said thousands in 64 years. Who's better? That's our condition. We all pretend it's other people who say unfortunate things, not us.
What a species. We won't be destroyed in the end for challenging God, which we're completely unequipped to do. We'll be hooked off the stage as self-important, preposterous, unfunny clowns.
Humanity will lay a rotten egg.
Al-Muhajiroun is an al-Qaeda front, a recruiting mill, and a propaganda machine. Check out their "constitution" for the global Khalifah sometime.
As far as these folks not bringing any terrorism to the UK, check out the ricin and cyanide plots earlier this year. Methinks that the usefulness of some people becomes mute when they try to kill large numbers of your citizenry.
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