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Mark, I agree wholeheartedly with the gist of your statements. I used to be a "political idealogue" of the Republican party when I was in my 20s. Now, I really can't tell the difference too much any more. Pat Buchanan and Alan Keyes ALWAYS get my votes. If all concerned, pro-life Catholics did the same (rather than worrying about "throwing away" their votes, guess who would get elected?
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01.30.04 - 2:16 pm | #
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OK, people from what might be called the "left", "Democratic axis", or "liberals" - pay attention:
I've been reamed more than once by folks who say that because I have what can best be described as a Conservative/Republican mindset I would never criticize a Republican or a Conservative. Both statements are untrue - this ludicrous attack on Mark shows that there can't be enough definitions for the word 'asinine', because people are always finding new ways to deserve that title. Here, it happens to be some Conservatives/Republicans - and I'll be happy to call them jerks and horse's patooties as quickly as I would do the same for anyone else.
(PS - If you're a secret anti-Republican "activist in Alaska, does that make you a "Yellow Snow Democrat?")
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Well said, Mark, and totally appropriate. Our loyalty should always be to the Truth, not to particular persons or parties.
That said, I cannot see how a Catholic loyal to the Church's teachings could, in the present political environment, vote for any member of the Evil Party, due to the Evil Party's unflinching support of the culture of death.
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Being only 23, I'm stupid (and ignorant) ... what is a "yellow dog democrat" and what distinguishes him from a "normal democrat"?
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01.30.04 - 3:31 pm | #
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Old expression: It means somebody who'd sooner vote for a yellow dog than a Republican.
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01.30.04 - 3:35 pm | #
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The term down here is " drover's dog"
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01.30.04 - 3:55 pm | #
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"Being only 23, I'm stupid (and ignorant)"
But not, however, unwise, because you knew enough to ask 
Geoff Horton |
01.30.04 - 4:05 pm | #
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Then what's the difference between a yellow dog dem and a blue dog dem?
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01.30.04 - 4:18 pm | #
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Abortion is a threshold issue that transcends party affiliation. I'm an active Republican, but I vote for a Democratic congressman who's pro-life and votes his (well-formed) conscience. The GOP here keeps running pro-aborts against him, leaving me no choice.
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01.30.04 - 4:21 pm | #
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Hello Mark,
I don't mind that you're a yellow dog so long as you've had your shots.
Woof.
Richard |
01.30.04 - 4:36 pm | #
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"Then what's the difference between a yellow dog dem and a blue dog dem?"
Blue dog democrats are conservative democrats. See: http://www.bluedogdemocrats.com/
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Hello LA,
"Yellow Dog Democrats" is a term of ancient provenance. It was chiefly used in reference to southern white voters from the Reconstruction Era onward, who had hatred of the G.O.P. imprinted on their DNA at conception. They would sooner "vote for a yellow dog" than a Republican. It's a dying breed now. Mainly you find it in aging white Rust Belt union voters and a few southern diehards. Though some might suggest that many black and feminist voters might fit the label in a crude way.
"Blue Dog Democrats" is a recent riff on the previous term. It's also a much more narrow term. The shrinking core of moderate-conservative Democrats in Congress decided a few years ago on the need for some new caucusing identity. Given that most of them were sons and grandsons of old southern Yellow Dog Democrats, they just changed the color and a label was born. Unlike Yellow Dogs it's always used in reference to congresscritters, not just voters.
I might point out that there is now a Republican analog: "Broken Glass Republicans." Coined in the 2000 election to convey the intense desire of many Republican voters to put an end to the Clinton Gore years in the White House, e.g, they would crawl over broken glass to vote Republican on election day.
best regards,
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My statement "you 'appear' to be a yellow dog Democrat" sure must have touched a raw nerve. It 'appears' that you did not even read the rest of the message, and you 'did' leave off the news item that I was sending you about the three national pro-life organizations that were giving Bush credit for all the pro-life things that he had done. It is true you go after Dean, Kerry and the Clintons but I have yet to read anything on your blog supporting Bush's pro-life efforts. Note your 1-20-04 post "Bush continues to stiff arm pro-lifers".
One Catholic K of C officer told me he couldn't vote for Bush because the Republicans just wanted to do away with legal abortion in this country and he belived in abortion. Talk about setting you back on your heels. At least he was honest about his feelings, but was dishonest in claiming to being a practical Catholic.
The whole jest of my message was we must show President Bush, and other pro-life politicans, that we support and appreciate a staunch pro-life position. It is our battle as much as it is their to turn this country around and eliminate legalized abortion.
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1. I would prefer a very tasteful orange dog Democrat. Would stand out when placed in the recreation room.
2. Don't like GWB's expansion of gummint. Don't like paying for NEA-funded Shakespeare productions in Kankakee, IL. When I live in my City With All Its Works/Pomps. And don't plan to vacation in Kankakee.
3. Don't like the prospect of paying for Warren Buffet's post-65 meds while a wage-earner.
4. Don't like the way he tries to buy voters, Demo-style.
5. Do like the way he's stood up to the greatest threat to this nation's security since the firm of Tojo, Benito and Schickelgruber were in bidness.
6. Also like the way he doesn't advocate continued growth of the Pro-Death Industry.
7. Not really excited about 6 and 7 but maintain the Psalmist's admonition to Put Not Your Trust In Princes.
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01.31.04 - 11:28 am | #
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8. Really meant not excited about 5 and 6. Put Not Your Trust In Typing Fingers.
Gerard E. |
01.31.04 - 11:30 am | #
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Wow!!! I can't believe this is on your blog. You are sounding more and more like my husband's blog
http://whataconcept.blogspot.com
MMMmmmm Mark Shea, have you made a visit to Florida? Just wondering 
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01.31.04 - 1:23 pm | #
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Hello Gerry,
Well said (as usual).
With any prince you take the good with the bad and hope the balances are tipped favorably. Which they were not with X42; but fortunately he had an opposition controlled Congress to limit the damage he could do.
Bush stands favorably on abortion, cloning, euthanasia, judicial appointments, tax reductions, and (by and large) foreign policy. On immigration, intelligence reform, government expansion and intrusiveness, entitlements, he's been largely a disappointment.
Sadly, that still leaves him ahead of his dad.
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01.31.04 - 2:57 pm | #
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Richard.
Cultural difference alert.
What is X42 ??
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01.31.04 - 4:08 pm | #
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X42=42nd president of US, which was Bill Clinton.
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Im 20 years old but hey "Dont let anyone look down on you because your young."Tim. Im sorry but there is an extreme inconsistency with calling Bush Pro-Life.
1.And of first importance (Has not the Vatican (or at least the Pope) condemned this war from the very beginning?)That was all the rage as far as I am aware.
How can we support an anti-papal (and many people are finding the prophetic ring of JP2 words),war of Bush and the countless injustices many times perpetrated with proud malice.
2.If Bush can fund the killing of those who Democrats "would call people", how in the world can we call him pro-life. I am absolutely pro-life a "conception to natural death type" but sorry mark my words we are not pro-life if we vote for a man who has put the dehumanising Democratic stamp that covers even individual Democrats with proper beliefs in its shadow. I can believe full-heartedly that we continue supporting this man we are only supportin the ying of the yang of the pro-death empire.
3. I descend to the low depth of political propagandi with a question (Where in the world did we get the idea that we are immune to a media run by the political agenda of the "presider"? Did not Hitler do it?)I dont think we can succesfully use the cop-out that "America is a Christian nation founded on Christian principles."A. Not anymore and B. Was not the nation of Israel built on Gods design. If were honest we know it was. The elite are not impeccable.God bless in Christ Jdab
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