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This is a statistical argument that makes many assumptions about the degree of isolation and intermarriage of various peoples around the world. I'm to too sure that I would buy all of them. |
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The only thing Christians should pounce on as this 'proving' is that the science involved in dating the most recent common ancestor is hardly exact and as with much of science, the accepted ages of today may well not bear any resemblance to what they will be 10 years from now as scientist learn more, and learn to integrate the available data more fully. |
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Ha! Adam 3,500 years ago in China, Eve 10,000 years ago in Kenya once more goes to show: Women! Can't live with 'em... |
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At first this made no sense at all because we know that Old Kingdom Egypt and Sumer and such civilizations date back much further than 1500 BC. I mean the Great Pyramid at Giza is much older than that. |
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Yes, I also think A&A is right. There was an interesting article in Atlantic Monthly a few years ago on how if you go back enough centuries, the probability becomes high that you're descended from some person (say, Alexander the Great) who lived at that time. This Nature article seems to be an effort to work that matter out in more detail. It doesn't have much to do with Adam and Eve. |
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I'm just surprised and glad that they are using B.C. and A.D. instead of that damnable B.C.E/C.E. |
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Fifteen-hundred BC? That can't be right. That's post-pyramids. Are you sure you didn't make a typo, Mark? |
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Their point must be that "we're all" descended from somebody who lived roughly 1500 BC, but that said somebody was not the first human being. |
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"This does seem to go against the two common parents view, though, by implying that the first parents' progeny died out before 'our' father in 1500 BC." |
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One rule I've heard is that if you had an ancestor living in England in 1200 AD, you are somehow related to everybody else who had an ancestor there, according to the redundancy of ancestors. |
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So when are we having a family reunion? |
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At the second coming. |
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Yes, that redundancy of ancestors thing that Sandra mentioned is exactly right. As a genealogy nut who recently proved my mother is descended from James II, King of Scots, I have had more experience than I ever desired to have with the redundancy of ancestors. I think mom is descended from the Stewarts and Campbells 100 times over! |
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Here's more on this: the Atlantic article I mentioned above. |
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Abraham? |
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You guys may be related to this dude, but I'm not. |
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Sandra, your term "related" is in the sense of ancestry -- not the sense of biology. |
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Lawrence: Don't forget, though, that in the course of egg and sperm production (specifically, during meiosis), there occurs what's known as "crossing over" - basically, homologous ("paired") chromosomes swap genes. Thus, although you have inherited one pair of chromosomes from each parent, that doesn't mean that all (or any) of the chromosomes in either pair are identical to the chromosomes in the somatic cells of the parent from whom you inherited that pair. Thus, it is indeed possible to be biologically related to more than 46 people. |
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...everyone of European ancestry is descended from Muhammad and Charlemagne |
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