Complete with a quote from Frances Kissling. The idea that a Catholic Hospital or individual be forced to perform abortions or even refer people for abortions is ludicrous. The "conscience laws" are not revolutionary, they were just never needed before now.


You know what-- to answer her stupid, hypothetical question, YES, the Jehovah's could open a hospital. And everyone in the community would very quickly figure out that was not the place to go for medical treatment. The place would either treat Witnesses, or more likely, fold entirely.

She doesn't seem to understand the fact that some people choose Catholic doctors and hospitals precisely because they are Catholic and expect both the individuals and institutions to conduct themselves in a moral fashion.


Bet they'd quit going to the mandatory circumcision hospital even quicker!


So glad that these abortion peddlers don't want to force their morality on anyone.


My right to choose trumps your right to choose. Of course, this is what happens when the question is no longer what we're choosing.


Someone e-mail me the address. I usually take Ellen Goodman to be on a different med. than I, but today she was downright insulting. The Buffalo News is my hometown paper, and I need to write them now.


"When I was a kid I just assumed the separation of church and hospital."

I didn't get past that line. Not sure where Goodman grew up, but the hospital is a religious idea from the start. There has never been a separation of Church and Hospital. Even in modern times, in my own City of San Francisco, religious orders were the foundation of ALL health care available. The City even gave up its own hospital to the Sisters of Mercy round the turn of the last century. Hospitals are a Catholic institution and later also a protestant institution and only very lately a secular concern.


Bro. Andrew: trying e-mailing La Goodman's home Dead Tree Journal, the Boston Globe. Which syndicates her ramblings. But as most DTJs have their own In-House Aging Feminists, no need to squander corporate cash printing her stuff. Almost gets it right- juggles the ball-- oops, splat on the ground. A Lib Mind Is A Terrible Thing To Waste.


Wow. Sin really does make you stupid.


When I was a kid I just assumed the separation of church and hospital. It's not that I didn't believe in the power of prayer, but when my appendix burst, I wanted a guy in a white coat, not a white collar.

Speaking for myself, I would like them both.


What we must remember when reading Ellen Goodman, Anna Quindlen, and the like, is that they are not about real thought or truth. They are part of the liberal project (very necessary for them) of denying and holding back reality.

As I wrote on my own blog today, "Ellen Goodman is like a clown on fire: kind of funny, kind of sad."


Very sad...and troubling that there are not a small number of people that think this way: seeing not that Catholics are trying to avoid committing a terrible act, but that their avoidance itself is the terrible act.
It's not enough for the devil -- who prompts philosophies like this and dupes people like Goodman -- to be just neutral, or even to be reasonable. He has to be good--the highest possible good.


Ellen Goodman is like a clown on fire: kind of funny, kind of sad.

Fr. Rob, I love you clown analogy. I have to use it in conversation with my husband sometime soon, since he's part of the "clowns are all child molesters, or at least really, really wierd" camp.


Make that your clown analogy. Must proof-read before hitting OK!!!


But Catholics will vote for Kerry, and then this kind of garbage will completely become reality.


Under what circumstances would someone need "emergency contraception"? When would it be a matter of life and death (how *I* define emergency) that someone would choose to have sex? Obviously rape and incest wouldn't be included...I'm stumped....


Did she really say that? Tell you what - if you believe that, you should not be allowed to seek treatment at any hospital with a religious foundation. Good luck. Most hosptials in this country were founded by religious orders. Ms. Goodman, don't get sick.


"All health care institutions receive most of their money from the government. If they want to be truly private, they wouldn't take Medicare or Medicaid."


This is rank dishonesty, but what else should we respect from CFFC?

CFFC is suggesting that in order to be truly private, Catholic hospitals should refuse service to those on Medicare and Medicaid. Nice. There's words for people like that.


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