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This is so sad. There is just no spine to be found in any Quebec bishop. I know the Cardinal there is a former student of Ratzinger. Even Cardinal Levada might think twice before stepping on his toes.
These kinds of stories are always brought up when you talk with a protestant about the Catholic church. They can't imagine joining a church that would tolerate the teaching of false doctrine. I know in the church I was raised in they would have removed any pastor like this many years ago.
Randy |
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Randy,
I understand your frustration, but I wonder: in your earlier church who would have been the "they" with the authority to oust a pastor? And what would that ousting mean?
From a Catholic point of view all protestant churches teach some kind of false doctrine, so what does it mean to claim that "they" would not tolerate the teaching of false doctrine? A doctrine different from theirs?
Before everyone jumps at me, let me state that I too would like to see more disciplinary actions in situations like this one, but I am just wondering whether it is what I would like that counts, or whether I should use these events to further my understanding of what truly is happening and why the Bishop(s) act (or not) this way before I start pontificating.
Roberto |
10.31.06 - 1:41 pm | #
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When I visited a very solid religious community in Toronto, Quebec was always a byword for the worst in Canadian Catholicism.
Mark R |
10.31.06 - 1:45 pm | #
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Allow some of the "worst of Canadian Catholicism" to weigh in here.....
I work at the chancery office here in Montreal, so I've heard plenty regarding this situation about Fr. Gravel, which I wrote about on my blog. Bottom line: while this is a dark cloud, it may have a silver lining or two.
As for Randy's comment, I assume you are referring to Cardinal Ouellet (a former professor of mine). I can assure you he has plenty of spine. What he does not have is jurisdiction in this case, as Fr. Gravel is not part of his diocese.
Fr. Thomas Dowd |
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10.31.06 - 2:37 pm | #
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Defrocking? I'd pull out the bell, book and candle.
Orthros |
11.03.06 - 7:15 am | #
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