I agree with you on the torture issue.

I would just like to affirm that, although I look to God for protection, I should be proactive in that protection. In other words, I will not hesitate to defend myself or my family from imminent danger with whatever force is necessary, up to and including lethal force.

I don't believe you intended otherwise, Mark, but I just wanted to put this out there.


Mark did you have to act like a jerk toward that Marty fellow? He was against torture & you pounded him unjustly just for asking questions.

You REALLY have to chill or the pro-torture crowd will use it as there best worst argument against the anti-torture principle.


Where does our faith reside most? In the instruments of man or in the instruments of God?


BTW I was always under the impression Fr. Harrison favored "enhanced interigation"?

Am I missing something?


Something not mentioned about the nastyness endorsed in the Old Testament is that the victims have had a trial that established their guilt. Women suspected of adultery were not pelted with stones, until they confessed, they were put on trial wher only reliable testamony could damn them.

Eye for an eye and tooth for tooth, maybe harsh, but it did have to be proven.


I'm proud of you Mark for apologizing to Marty.


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