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Nice Jump! I like it! 
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NIce post punkin!
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wow! a post i can share with the kids!
great job, jump!
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hey uc, the kids are waiting for their cookies !
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[grin] BOO! No Cookies now! Watching Debate!
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Deliciously unruly - and surprisingly low in calories!
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Jump !
Great post
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I wish I could watch the debate... 
Margaret |
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Edwards is getting LOUD!
Kucinich and Edwards are the most unruly in my mob-brain.
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Go John, Go
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Has the phrase "sHrillary" been used? If not, I CLAIM DIBS!
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JenniLoon - Richardson just spoke our "Governor" theory!
Last Sentaor elected was JFK., etc.
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i have a new left-handed theory too, UC, but obama's blown that out of the water lately . . .
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This isn't a debate....this is a coordinated attack on sHillary Clinton. I got the stream fifteen minutes ago and I haven't heard a question asked that didn't question one of her positions or policies. I'm not the biggest fan of hers but that's what's going on. Pumpkinhead is really on the attack.
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THE GREAT PUMPKIN!
Nicely done, jump.
OT, I am laughing my ass off about this story, another one bites the dust...
Newly released police investigative reports allege a state representative dressed up as a woman and engaged in an oral sex act at a Spokane Valley adult bookstore before later rendezvousing at a downtown hotel for another sexual encounter with a man now under investigation for extortion.
The suspect in the investigation, identified in police and court documents as 26-year-old Cody Michael Castagna, of Medical Lake, told detectives he was offered $1,000 to have unprotected sex with State Rep. Richard Curtis, a Republican from La Center, which is near Vancouver.
Castagna, a part-time porn model, has been featured in explicit photo shoots posted on some members-only gay Web sites.
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An employee at the porn store told detectives Curtis has been in the business three times in the last month and is called “the cross-dresser” by employees. The same employee said she was told by Curtis he is gay and likes to dress in women’s underwear.
During questioning by Spokane Police detectives, Castagna said he saw a man later identified as Curtis in Hollywood Boutique early last Friday “wearing long red women’s stockings and black sequined lingerie.” Castagna later told detectives he saw a 40-year-old man with a cane performing oral sex on the legislator, according to the police reports.
http://www.spokesmanreview.com/b...ry.asp?
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Had Cane, Was Able... 
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This isn't a presidential debate, this is a sHillary debate....
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"Your party is fond of talking about potential swiftboating...." WTF? This is as bad as a FAUX "News" spomsored debate would have beem
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Okay what are you guys thinking about the questioning so far?
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Peg - I heard Obama say "The way to respond to swiftboating is to: a), b) c)
That being said, she is quite a focal point. The MSNBC site actually said she was preparing to fend off the ganging-up.
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Peg - they're note engaging Dodd and Kucinich enough.
The questions? Stupid and game planned.
The answers? Mostly the same, except for a few honies!
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Very impressive...and creative too. Thanks Jump! You are a cheer, dear. 
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It seems to me that they are going out of their way to single her out.
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Awesome. Jump, the original was one of the best posts ever, and this one lives up to the first. I was going to ask you to crosspost it to IST, but I see that you did.
I'm listening to the debate because I have no MSNBC. The candidates are getting frisky. They sound like buttholes, but that's fine. I hope they tear each other apart and leave Dodd and Kucinich standing!
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Wait... Is that the same post as last year? I'm a dork. Thought it was a sequel.
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Great Halloween post.
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Agent Man!
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Debate comment
These people make it seem as if our oil comes from the middle east.
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Had Cane, Was Able...
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LMAO!
Flat!
I can't watch those dumb debates. If anything beyond the ordinary happens it'll be on the 'tubes the next day.
In other good news:
BERKELEY, Calif. — A United Methodist transgender minister said Tuesday he was "happily surprised" by a church council ruling allowing him to stay on the job.
The church's top court, which considered the issue during a recent session in San Francisco, stopped short of addressing whether a change of gender violates the denomination's rules.
Instead, the judicial council referred to church policy that says a clergyperson in good standing can't be terminated unless there's been administrative or judicial action.
http://www.spokesmanreview.com/
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Gotta stop commenting to save bandwidth tp watch. Later. 
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I couldn't resist. A CANE?!?!?! Gimme a frikking break...
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smooch Peg!
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I couldn't resist. A CANE?!?!?! Gimme a frikking break...
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I know.
WTF is up with THAT?
Hilarious.
Truth is always stranger than fiction.
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This clever post deserves a treat!
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Hey UC.
This debate is killing me. This is precisely why these primaries need to be moved back. These guys aren't even close to being ready for the general election. Some of them are closer than others, but I really wish the voters had more time to wake up.
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That's not a debate. it's a pose-down, like at a body building contest. And the moderators are the pits.
These people make me ill...
'Cept Dennis. Let him have the mike.
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No kidding; that's for both of youz, QD and SA.
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Wow! The Methodists allowed a transgendered preacher to keep a pastor's post? Man, that is surprising. I left the UMC in the 1970s after my old congregation drove a female asst. pastor right outta the pulpit.
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Kucinich Edwards Clinton Obama ....so far
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I loved the part where they were all chest thumping over who would be the toughest in dealing with Iran. Dennis was the only one who said that pre-emptive war is illegal, that PLANNING such a war is illegal.
I love him. Too bad he'll be gone by the NJ primary.

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Obama seems to get dimmer by the second.
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Speaking of dimmer, I have to go to bed. 5:00 am is right around the corner.
Happy All Hallow's Eve, y'all.
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Is Gravel really not there? Why? I like that old coot.
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He didn't have money (contributions) since he had no polling numbers... sad.
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I agree. Edwards, Dodd and Kucinich are doing okay, but the rest are just making sounds with their mouths. This could close the gap a bit between top and bottom, but no one is listening.
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my son's favorite picture is the big green pumpkin eating the little orange baby pumpkin.
he hopes we have a nice pumpkin patch next year.
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One thing my ear has noticed tho; Edwards is really doing his "Trial Lawyers CLosing Remarks" job on Hillary. In terms of a National Forensic League debate, he is wiping Hillary.
She however is wiping everybody that's not Dodd, Kucinich or Edwards.
Biden gets points from me though.
Just my $.02
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Porch Time! BRB...
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Night Dave. I give full marks to Clinton for staying composed under withering assault. I give Kucinich full marks for substance and I give Biden full marks for humor. I give Edwards awards for economic balance and Dodd on opposing Bush. We have a strong field. I wish they were all Progressive but the netroots has made a difference I think
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Good god, Russert just asked Kucinich about UFOs!
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Is there also a pumpkin somewhere pushing a peach pie off a table?
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Dodd's for Decriminalization!
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Wow. UFOs and HAloween questions. Real hard hitting crap there NBC.
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Edwards screwed the pooch on the decriminalization question. Even sHillary didn't raise her hand when asked who didn't agree with Dodd.
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Ta ta - must go hang with MR. B for a while now...
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And then he tried to put it back down and realized he was busted. Edwards takes a downturn in my book while everybody else gains a space
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Obama scored with the "life on Earth" comment. Glad to see so many candidates okay with weed decrim. Edwards won't make that mistake again. I think he just wasn't ready.
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Also, it seemed pretty clear that Edwards has never smoked dope.
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Night all. Off to bed.
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what was the decrim question - on drugs ?
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sweet dreams, agent.
i like margaret's book. 
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It was on pot alone jenn. Edwards flubbed it hugely....and my eyes were focused dead on sHillary and her hands never twitched.
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well, i've never smoked pot (asthmatic) and i think i could answer the question intelligently. poor john e, he's had a learning curve on a few issues.
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Here's what the AP's reporting:
Curtis is married and has children, according to his legislative Web site. Elected to the state House of Representatives in 2004, he has voted against gay rights legislation.
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In his only public comments, Curtis told The Columbian newspaper of Vancouver, Wash., that he did not solicit anyone for sex.
"I committed no crime," Curtis told the newspaper Monday. "I did not solicit sex. I was trying to help somebody out."
Curtis, a former firefighter, declared, "I am not gay."
In his initial statement to police, Curtis denied offering money for sex, and denied having sex at all. He told officers he believed he had been slipped "some type of drug" because he did not have a clear recollection of events.
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State Republican leaders have declined comment on the case. http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/
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I don't know jenn but I find it troubling on another level. Short of a bonafide miracle, his wife is going to die of cancer. This year, next year, even further down the road the sad truth is that she is going to die of cancer in the near future. Pot could help manage the pain both physical and emotional. He'd better wise up and I'm not trying to be mean or cold hearted but I was also disturbed by his answer on that level.
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5.6 magnitude earthquake reported in Northern California. http://quake.wr.usgs.gov/recente.../
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He must prefer stockings. Pantyhose preclude the wide stance....
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Earthquake details. Not much here: http://cbs5.com/topstories/
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margaret: for some folks slightly older than me, even pot was considered totally out of bounds while they were growing up, and they never crossed that line. i'm pretty sure than about half of my aunts and uncles never smoked pot, and probably never will.
don't the edwards have an older daughter that could clue them in?
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Hey, it's not like he goes to toilet stalls.
Poor guy. If he only had the hots for balding uptight guys who hate themselves instead of hot young porn stars, he and Senator Larry could have saved each other lots of bad pubicity. I mean publicity.
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yes, tc, lol!
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Night guys....Prediction: sHillary is going to be spun as the winner and they will try even harder to exclude Kucinich next time.
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how do i make a laughing emoticon ? :-D
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jenn copy this but take4 the spaces out: : lol :
That will make 
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sweet progressive dreams, margaret !
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thx margaret! now i can laugh too
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It's pumpkin madness.
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State Republican leaders have declined comment on the case. http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/ lo..._Extortion.html
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This is from an out gay guy I know:
http://www.spokesmanreview.com/
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karol: son liked the pumpkin story very much. i told him they hurt baby pumpkins by sending them to war, and not giving them health insurance. he is really catching on.
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I bought two pumpkins earlier tonight.
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Here's Dan Savage, along with a picture of Curtis, it looks like. http://slog.thestranger.com/2007.../2007/10/
xxxgay
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On Savage's page: Curtis admitted to police that if details of the incident became public he would have to tell his wife and would need to hire a divorce attorney.
tireiron chef |
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kids made a puking pumpkin tonight.
we grew our own this year 
jenniloon in slc |
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jenn, how fun.
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From the Dan Savage link:
Curtis admitted to police that if details of the incident became public he would have to tell his wife and would need to hire a divorce attorney.
So this means two men kissing really is a threat to traditional marriage?
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curtis has more on the ball than larry craig. wow.
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Heading to bed, Good night, everyone. 
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Night, tc, my very good friend.
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Here's Dan Savage, along with a picture of Curtis, it looks like. http://slog.thestranger.com/2007...007.../2007/10/
xxxgay
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That was awesome and funny, TC, thanks.
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sweet dreams, tc,
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green:
most of my wine is from ste. chappelle in nampa. (60-80%). it's as local as i can get the wine.
there are some beloved items in our home that i cannot get locally. i'm not sure i'm willing to give them up.
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Is karol still at school?
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Has anyone ever heard of Thomas Edison State College (NJ)?
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Yes, Word. I am at school until ten tonight two nights a week. It's a killer.
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karol, it's only 7 more weeks after this one ?
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yes, we are in our third week. Never again, jenn. Remind me when the deans cry about not having a qualified night instructor to just say NO. I don't mind one night class if it's early, but two? I am to old for this.
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karol in a different classroom | 10.31.07 - 1:02 am
MmHmmmm.....I know - I'm too old to put up with a lot of stuff any more and I'm not THAT old, but old enough.
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karol: if you get asked to do night classes again, insist on having the next morning off. or an entire extra day off during the week.
take on the night classes, but take back some of your time!
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does joe at that other blog have a separate email from john's ? there's a spambot on the loose . . .
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For reasons I shall not discuss, I have poured a tall shot of tequila and will be drinking it shortly.
Greetings.
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Greetings jump.
And I know.

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Please read these sentences.
Our Founders established a government that honors and protects liberty of religious practice for persons of all faiths.
For more than two centuries, brave men and women have died to defend this freedom.
Consequently, highlighting one ceremonial day after another seems not only redundant but also patronizing to the practitioners of the faith traditions followed in our great, free Republic."
It's part of an explanation of a vote in the House by one of our reps.
Okay - it seems to me that first sentence and the third sentences are contradictory to each other.
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word, on what topic was the vote ?
i would like it if congress had no religious commentary, but as long as the senate has a chaplain, i am open to them having a variety of prayerful offerings.
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Jenn -
Crap.... without going and looking, it was recognizing some Hindu holiday or something.
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hey jump, my son loved the pumpkin story!
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Hi, Green,
It just keeps getting better....
I'm drinking now!
Jump in the Night |
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oh the hindu prayer was the one that was so rudely interrupted earlier this summer.
jenniloon in slc |
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Here:
a resolution recognizing the Hindu festival of Diwali (which also recognized the religious diversity in the U.S., India and around the world)
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Ya know - some of these pumpkin pics are just a tad disconcerting......
.....uncomfortable - squirmy type uncomfortable.
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the house has an endless stream of resolutions for an endless variety of issues, holidays, etc. they could get some real work done if they banned those resolutions. it shows up in the roll call vote.
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oh son wanted an explanation about how some of the pumpkins were carved, too. he really really liked it.
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It seems the first sentence and the third sentences contradictory.
If sentence number 1 is true, then how it is redundant (?), let alone patronizing to recognize different faith traditions IF our founders (as claimed by this rep) ‘established a gov’t that honors and protects liberty of religious practice for persons of ALL FAITHS.’
Follow my thinking?
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My mom sent the pics to me, word. I decided to make a story out of them. I'm a lot more uncomfortable with that asshole, George Bush and his war criminal friends.
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This same rep voted 'yes' to recognize Ramadan. Fucker also votes against teh SCHIP
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Don't let the tequila talk, Jump.
It was just kinda said in jest - OK? I'm with you on the Shrub and his cadre.
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I am having a helluva day.
There must be music...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p...h?
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Jen, boy may like this, when it comes back up...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z...h?
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your mom has cool pix, jump.
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ooh, looks interesting - - -
i am currently collecting "prizes" for the completion of the dreaded FLU SHOT tomorrow. 
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OK, I lied. I'm spilling.
A truck exploded on the 405 during rush hour today, down to 1 lane. I can't begin to describe the scene.
A crane fishtailed on the 405 this evening, hitting an overpass, bursting into flames, killing the driver.
Got caught in both of those festivities. Drove by another accident just for fun. Mom just called; stepdad spending night in hospital with chest pains.
On of those days.
And I missed the chef. Darn!
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My mom is a total nut. Love her.
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I had just decided, before she called, I'm gonna tell her about one of my earliest memories, driving in the car, with my head on her lap, some god awful road trip through Yuma, AZ in the middle of the night, while she stroked my hair and sang "Down in the Valley" to me. I remember how tired I was and how loving her fingers were in my hair.
Mom's should know that stuff.
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smooches too
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Thank you, Jenn, dear. Some days are dished up with a bitter side dish, no?
There is other very good news, so that's just the way life rolls, I suppose. It is to be savored, never taken for granted.
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oh jump, moms should.
i am teaching my son to rub my head when i have a headache. it gives him something to do - keeps him quiet - and kind of helps the pain/nausea too.
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good news ?
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I like this Jack-O-Lantern pic:
http://www.spokesmanreview.com/
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Love, ya word, and your damned unruly mouth!
Actually, love that part a lot... 
Sorry.

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Jump in the Night | Homepage | 10.31.07 - 1:47 am
Moms should absolutely know that stuff. That's the wonderful stuff.
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I like that, green.
How are you doing?
Good news is that progress on diss is substantial and closing in on a final product, and that brings great joy. I'm ready to stop playing that game!
Time for new games...

Like camping and hiking and reading harry potter....
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It's that obscene pic - front and back - that just seems...... so..... scary...... kinda like you want to look, but then again you're sorry ya did.
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Is that Deputy Dawg?
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Oh my, "Down in the Valley", now there's an oldie.
Hope you get that chance, Jump.
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Word,
When I laugh really hard with my hand on the mouse and the pointer on the scroll bar, the screen does a little laugh dance.
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Yep - it sure does~ 
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Is that Deputy Dawg?
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By Jove, I think you've got it!
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Green,
I was like 3. It was hot and dry as all get out. I was so tired and cranky and kinda fussy, and she soothed me and she stroked my hair and sang. I remember I felt like I was in heaven, and like she was gently rubbing her love right into me.
Great memory. Hadn't thought of that in years.
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Doing good jump, thanks for asking.
Congrats on our dissertation progress.
ABD is no way to go thru life, woman.
heh heh heh
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write on jump! the dissertation gig does NOT last forever.
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unless your name is jim.
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"Down in the Valley" is an early tune I played on the trumpet... it's simple and easy to play.
Anyway, hope you get to relay that memory to your mom when things calm down there.
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Bite your tongue, green.
ABD is SO NOT IN MY FUTURE!
How does that line go, "as God is my witness they’re not going to lick me! I’m going to live through this and when it’s all over, I’ll never stay up all night doing homework again!"
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That made me laugh.
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I have listened to that Lambchop song like 30 times a day for the last three days. Can't stop. It is on a permanent loop in my head.
Speaking of loops, did UC get lost on the porch?
I missed the earlier peeps.
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i think that's from 'gone with the wind', that fine feminist tome 
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Yeah, it's gone with the wind, in her whiniest rant of all...

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Off to read more of Naomi Klein.
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unless your name is jim.
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Huh?
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Later WonderWord.

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Jim may be one of jenn's hubbie's taking his sweet time students...
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Frankly my dear...
DON'T CALL ME FRANK!

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That's pretty funny.
My mom made me read GWTW in grade school. Drama.
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is word reading the shock doctrine ? that is NOT bedtime reading, imho.
jim frustrates not only my husband, but his wife, too: they have added another family member in anticipation of his graduation and return to the real-money work force. when i worked for my husband, he was one of my graduate student backups (for when we traveled). he's like 3 years overdue on the dissertation. i think he started about 6 years ago.
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This will be the best Halloween post anywhere!
I'll probably link to it tomorrow.
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Hi, mirth. You flatter...
Nice to see your loveliness.

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and appropriate for all ages, too, mirth! family-friendly!
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Well, except for the lewd pic that freaks Wordsmith out.

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lewd? i told my son that was dick cheney and ann coulter.
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My mom made me read GWTW in grade school. Drama.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B...h?
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No more pain, no more drama.
Period.
As possible.
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For UC and others:
From CSM via Alternet:
War Protests: Why No Coverage?
10/30/07, by The Christian Science Monitor, by Jerry Lanson
Coordinated antiwar protests in at least 11 American cities this weekend raised anew an interesting question about the nature of news coverage: Are the media ignoring rallies against the Iraq war because of their low turnout or is the turnout dampened by the lack of news coverage?
I find it unsettling that I even have to consider the question. (MORE...)
http://www.commondreams.org/arch...007/10/30/4907/
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Banned from Canada for War Protest
Published on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 by CommonDreams.org, by Ann Wright
http://www.commondreams.org/arch...007/10/30/4912/
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Freaking Canadians are going Fascist now. What a shame.
I hope to meet Medea of Code Pink some day. I met her husband last year, stunning guy.
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Forget Impeachment, Put Bush and Cheney in a Straightjacket
By Rosa Brooks, Los Angeles Times. Posted October 29, 2007.
The president's warmongering remarks on the Iranian threat suggest he is psychotic. Really.
http://www.alternet.org/story/66336/
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Must crash.
Goodnight, unruly world.
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Night jumpster, again, nice post.
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Hello and good night, Jump!
There is light at the end of the tunnel of endless dissertationity.
Thanks for the pumpkins...
I especially liked the melting Repumplikan.
I'm making spaghetti and eyeballs for dinner.
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( stuffed olives inserted into meatballs, baked in red spaghetti sauce...bloodshot eyeballs)
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Tea is ready. Keep the bonfires burning, Enrages!
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Biden: Rudy's Sentences Consist Of "A Noun, A Verb, And 9/11" 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/20...-
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Biden NAILED IT! 
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Those are the coolest ever jack-o'lanterns! thanks Jump!
Now, for some really disturbing news, has anyone heard of the bush/Calderon little Plan Mexico? Here's a hint:
According to the terms of the security aid package, there is virtually no difference between an international terrorist, a migrant farmworker, a political protestor, and a drug trafficker. The most unexpected and pernicious feature of Plan Mexico is that it targets all these groups indiscriminately. Lumping together all “transnational threats” and stripping them of any social or historical context creates a broad definition of security in the region and justifies a blanket regional security strategy.
Read all about it here: http://www.fpif.org/fpiftxt/4684
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ellie - the language in recent laws has been moving toward this. i am thinking of the 'providing any aid to the enemy' in the security pkg for lebanon.
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I thought of that, too, jenn. When I read this particular gem, it tells me that we're headed for further militarization of our border states. It makes it much more convenient to have martial law, and it gets people comfortable with the idea.
Well, it isn't going to get this unruly mob comfortable with any such idea. Thank Dog and all the creatures for the unrulies here.
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this also points out the suspicious conditions under which this right wing nutter Calderon, obviously a dear friend of bush, was "elected" in Mexico. The people there protested the outcome of that close election, and it makes me wonder just how Calderon really did come into office?
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I had some small kiddies visiting and showed them the pumpkin patch, and they exploded with laughter.
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Oh, sweet (and sour) Jesus!! A collection of dubious quotes from the religious reight.
Quotes From the American Taliban
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Holy Cow, SBT, that's a creepy list. I take comfort in the fact that at least some of them have died.
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My counter to these quotes, sorry I can't attribute source:
"The reight wing in America use Christianity in much the same way as a drunkard uses a lamp-post - more for support than illumination."
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SBT
The quote from Numb nutz had to do with a veteran here who was killed in Iraq, had a military funeral but the VA refused to put the Wiccan symbol a pentagram http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wicca on the fallen soldiers headstone. The VA finally capitulated when the pressure was turned up by the VFW.
Numb nutz has associated the wiccan's religion with the devil_if there is a devil.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/
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WaPo's coverage of the tussle.
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A bas, a bas, les potirons mauvaises!
A part ca, j'aime les potirons. Sur tout dans les raviolis!
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Thanks Joe! 
Frankly, when I read that particular quote I didn't know exactly what it was referring to. Now I can 'put a face to it', as it were.
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In other Off-Topic news, the dollar continues its slide towards parity with the peso.
Story
Isn't it high time that the 'sober, responsible' fiscal pirates who have been running things for-ev-er are replaced by someone who actually passed high school math? People should realize that Adam Smith's invisible hand was formed into a fist to hammer the underclasses long ago. There is a HUGE difference between free market capitalism and the crony capitalism that currently makes the financial world go 'round.
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This thread's a-hoppin'. How did I miss it? I seem to miss EVERYTHING!
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Jesus Christ!
We are really screwed.
Wednesday, October 31, 2007
1 Canadian Dollar = 1.04781 US Dollar
1 British Pound = 2.06360 US Dollar
1 Euro = 1.44110 US Dollar
I don't ever remember the Canadian dollar being worth more than our dollar. At least not in my lifetime.
edited by SbT - originally read, "our dollar being worth more than the $CDN" - we knew what you meant to say PB. 
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Well, I didn't really want to travel out of the country again, anyway. . .
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IF the Mosul Dam bursts, 500,000 Iraqis may die. But we're not doing anything about it. http://www.crooksandliars.com/20...m-in-the-world/
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tireiron-- the Mosul Dam will be Surge, Part Two. That's the plan.
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[The Pansy Bastard™ | Homepage | 10.31.07 - 4:02 pm]
The $CDN (aka 'loonie) is actually above $1.05 US right now PB, up from 85˘ as recently as just last March. Put another way, the $US was worth $1.17˝ back then, and has fallen to 95˘ WRT the loonie, a loss of nearly 20% of its value in only eight months, or a rate of nearly 30% per annum.
I believe the criterion for declaring hyperinflation is only 10% loss of value per annum. Mind you the loss is smaller WRT the Euro and British pound, but if you use a weighted index based on the relative amount of trade in the respective currencies, you have to take into account that Canada is America's largest trading partner, doing more business than all of Europe combined (the UK is counted separately for some reason.) Source
Don't buy the GOP lie that the economy is just fine.
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I don't buy anything GOP, Sad. I try to buy American, but alas, all I can find is cheap shit manufactured in China. 
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And as appropriate a comment as I've seen Ellie. It's buying all that shit from China that's driving the erosion of the $US in the first place. Never mind the huge federal deficit Bu$hCo are running up running their illegal wars, the American public is running a trade deficit of $700,000,000,000 a year. Putting this more bluntly, it's like every man, woman and child in the country spent more than $2,000 than they earned last year. Your international credit card is maxed out, and for the first time since WWII the average American's personal savings is a negative number.
Sad, but true.
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Exactly, Sad. We've sold our souls to the Chinese. I don't know how we are going to remove ourselves from this mess. Average Joe and Jane Doe don't have a clue, and we keep digging, digging, digging.
My mother was no international affairs expert or economist, but she always, always said that this country would be brought down by China, either militarily or economically. How did she know this? (she died in 1995)
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Thanks for all the kind words, friends.
Enjoy the day.
Peace in the Pumpkin Patch!
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Jump posted a flash animated video on her Democracy Rocks site some time ago, which pointed out such disconcerting facts as, "the top 25% of Chinese people (in IQ) exceeds the entire population of the US in number." *
I looked for that a while ago and couldn't find it because I couldn't remember the post title. Maybe Jump can help, or even cross-post it here sometime. It's a real eye opener.
* - (as far as I can remember. May deviate in detail.)
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I'll look and will post, sbt. I remember it.
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Scarier than a goblin for hallowe'en, if you ask me Jump. The truth may not be stranger than fiction but it is scarier, simply because it's true. Didj you see the Bill Maher piece at HuffPo where he proposed dressing as a melting polar ice cap for Hallowe'en, because the idea is so scary?
Or how about this one?
http://thumbsnap.com/v/XueTT0yj.gif
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Sad.
But.
True.
Scary, indeed.
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Oh dear.
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I bought no candy for the trick or treaters and they can be happy with little bags of popcorn because am too cheap.
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I love the subtle little joke buried in the last two frames of that cartoon. I missed it the first time.
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Fred Thompson hates gays, loves torture.
Thompson, during his first public visit to the Bay Area, also spoke on the volatile issue of whether the use of waterboarding to gain information from terrorists amounted to torture. The former Tennessee senator didn't support the practice outright, instead, he said he would "do what I think is in the best interest of my country" regarding approving waterboarding as commander in chief. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/ar...T43AG.DTL&
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That was me. Also, apparently Thompson doesn't know what the fawk he's talking about.
Thompson noted the United States does not support torture and abides by international law, then indicated he would not be opposed to waterboarding if national security was at stake.
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A la gauche!
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Found it, SBT. Will post tomorrow. Have a plan...
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chef!
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I got the joke.
Sad but true.
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One year
the kids showed up before I had a chance to buy candy, so I gave them some almost rotten apples I found in the bottom of the fridge. They never came back. I guess they thought I was about the cheapest old hag on the block!
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"I got the joke.
Sad but true."
[Jump in the Pumpkin Patch | Homepage | 10.31.07 - 5:44 pm]
Subtle though, eh?
Just to be explicit for anyone who is wondering what I'm on about:
"Hmmmm.. that was a pretty good answer."
What's scarier - the voting machines or the fact that 'most people don't care about this stuff?'
Great cartoon. It makes you think.
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Via TPM.
Senate Majority Whip Richard J. Durbin (D-Ill.) announced Wednesday he would not support the nomination of Michael Mukasey for Attorney General because of Mukasey’s refusal to declare the "waterboarding" interrogation technique as torture.
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The uproar has left the nomination—once considered to be a sure thing—in serious jeopardy. Durbin said he was unsure if Mukasey had enough votes to even pass out of the committee. http://www.politico.com/blogs/
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Off to massacre a couple of pumpkins. Back for a few minutes this evening, my friends.
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Did I mention that they're innocent pumpkins, who have never harmed anyone, as far as we know?
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Later, chef.
Have some fun, eh?

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i voted today
i received my flu shot, and my son got his too.
i feel so virtuous, i will eat some chocolate 
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Absolutely, positively the best analogy of the Bush dictatorship I've seen. This is an instant classic, Jump. Orwell with vegetables. Magnifique!
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Thank you mightily.

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