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Will that jerk apologize for trying to pin the Alabama church fires on gays and liberals? It turns out that he was completely wrong.
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03.08.06 - 3:35 pm | #
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No, but the arsonists would like to thank Matthews from the bottom of their hearts for trying to help confuse the FBI and send them looking the wrong direction. It didn't work, but they appreciate his effort.
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03.08.06 - 5:15 pm | #
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This is simply too funny. Calling Chris Matthews an ally on the right is like calling NPR right wing! The man is a yellow dog, and there is no escaping that fact. I don't know what it takes to make you all happy. Even those on your side aren't good enough for you! What next, are you going wo assert that Justice Ginsburg is the most conservative Supreme Court justice in history? Give me a break morons.
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03.08.06 - 9:36 pm | #
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Headline at Rawstory:
Chris Matthews under fire tomorrow
Thursday: Detailed report to hit MSNBC Hardball host hard: Developing...
I'm rubbing my hands together in glee - hope whatever it is does not disappoint. (I'm thinking maybe ties to Abramoff? Complete speculation)
Keep your eye on Rawstory.
everhopeful |
03.08.06 - 10:32 pm | #
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Jimmy, Good, keep watching Fox News. MSNBC needs to go back to offering real News. Newsflash CNN/MSNBC...I've found the market you have all been missing the past decade or whenever OJ trial was and penisgate (the beginning of the end of real news). Its called Journalism or REAL NEWS. Yes, it can be done. You just investigate a real story and tell the story of what happened and Shazam! you have news.
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03.08.06 - 11:01 pm | #
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everhopeful-I don't see that on Rawstory. Did they take it down?
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03.08.06 - 11:04 pm | #
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Maureen:
No, still there - Look down and to the right - it's still "developing" though - says it's breaking tomorrow - yay!
everhopeful |
03.09.06 - 3:17 am | #
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Has anyone besides me been blocked from the Verizon email lists to boycott hardball??
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03.09.06 - 11:34 am | #
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Latest from Raw Story - still developing but a few more details now - Tweety on the take? Wowie - keep your eye on Raw Story!
Report suggests Chris Matthews took money from myriad conservative groups; Hardball star won't say if paid: Soon...
http://www.rawstory.com/
everhopeful |
03.09.06 - 12:14 pm | #
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The story is up - it's a 39-page report showing that Chris Matthews has accepted many many speaking engagements (and probably hefty fees) from conservative groups since 2001.
Curiously (and typically), NBC has not returned calls asking for comment on this subject and about the network's speaking policy. See the whole Tweety report here.
http://rawstory.com/news/2006/
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Will be interesting to see if Tweety mentions it on his show (yeah, right!). If someone watches it, can you please post here? I'm a long-time boycotter of Hardball.
everhopeful |
03.09.06 - 12:57 pm | #
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Jimmy, get yer head out of Rush's butt.
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03.09.06 - 1:52 pm | #
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So it's being reported that our little Chrissy has been taking mega $$$ for speaking engagements at trade shows thrown by conservative trade groups.
No surprise here...just more conservatives buying the opinions of pliable media personalities, because it's hard to find people who agree with bad policies without requiring payment.
At least now attacks on Matthews' objectivity by his detractors have even more justifiable points to shore up their offensive.
He's in bed with corporate America, and that means he's swapping many fluids with George W. Bush! Now I wonder who gives who the STDs! They're both pretty dirty skanks!
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03.09.06 - 3:01 pm | #
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Thanks everhopeful, I went back and found it last night thanks to your alert. Very interesting report. Chris does behave like a paid shill. He goes insanely overboard in his praise of republicans. Who did this investigation? This definately needs to be looked into further. I have a feeling this does go deeper. He is just so excessive in his drooling that it seems like he is desperate to convince us to keep republicans in office. When everyone, including a majority of Repub congressmen are turning on Bush and Chris is still giving him a tongue bath that would have been disgusting to repubs even back in 2001, it has to make you wonder if Chris isn't somehow involved in criminal activity with his boys or they have something on him big time that he doesn't want exposed.
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03.09.06 - 3:16 pm | #
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For what it's worth, I called the network using the executive producer's contact number below, and asked her if, in light of his reckless speculation that liberal gays had started these fires, if Matthews might say something about that tonight since the guys who were caught were not, in fact, gay liberal church-burning terrorists.
She was totally unaware of these comments, and was like, "wait, what did he say exactly..." and so I read to her from the transcript posted here on 2/3.
She was very polite and sounded very concerned. She said she'd pull up the transcript and look into it. The vibe I got from her was, "wow, I can't believe he said that, but you sound pretty sane. Crap, if he said that we are going to need some damage control, I think..."
Now I'm wishing I'd said, "My point is, when we hear churches got burned down, we shouldn't assume liberals did it because today liberals don't do that! Only conservatives do. For some years, we've been saying that the biggest difference between liberals and conservatives is that they're violent extremists who use tactics of terror and we're NOT.
The fact is, I'm sick and tired of hearing about how extreme the Weathermen were--I'm in my 30's and all those liberal radicals were out of business by the time I was out of diapers. My entire adult life has been characterized by valid democratic political argument from the left and violent extremist actions from the right, followed by insane accusations that liberals are threatening America because we're unpatriotic commie-lovers, or terror-lovers, or whoever our enemy is this week.
But if you want to see the difference between liberals and conservatives, just look at who uses political violence and who does not. Conservatives are the ones killing their political enemies and blowing shit up, and we're the ones who are filing lawsuits and organizing protests.
So when you hear a church was burned down, while it might be a political statement by the right, it is most certainly NOT a political statement by the left. Because, you know, we've got this crazy idea that when you say it's OK to blow people up because you disagree with their politics, then really really bad shit starts to happen and everyone loses. I know, it's a totally insane thought. But I'd like it if someone in the media noticed that, you know, the fact that the right has embraced political violence as a legitimate means of debate and the left has not. I think it's a rather important substantive difference between today's left and right. I think that's pretty damn newsworthy."
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03.09.06 - 8:20 pm | #
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theorajones, well said!
Maureen |
03.09.06 - 9:16 pm | #
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The violence that is inherent in the Right is as old as the pyramids. Politically, the Right created the Left as a result of the former's constant heinous abuses of the common people. The Left, from Spartacus on down and earlier, has always been a response by humans who, while not wishing to rise and take up arms against the established power and its henchmen, is forced to do so. Therefore, from a purely philosophical standpoint, the Right carries the original "moral sin" in this case. And, by the way, do not ever forget that while the Right, the establishment that oppresses rules, there's INSTITUTIONALIZED VIOLENCE on the part of teh sate that they usually control. This violence manifests itself not only in open acts of repression which, per force, must come, but in everyday affairs: unemployment, widespread poverty, unnecessary human suffering on an obscene scale, plus all the resulting morbidities—drug abuse, pervasive crime--most of it as a result of a grossly inequitable regime that destroys bodies and souls, while robbing people of fellowship and hope. Just observe what we have today: a nation backsliding into apathy, ignorance, massive stupidity and cynicism——all perfect so that the billionaires who have long profited from this sorry state of affairs can go on doing so unmolested by a comprehending public. In this toxic soil, democracy cannot survive and it isn't.
espartaco |
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03.10.06 - 1:06 pm | #
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Uhm...the terrorists are leftists. EarthFirst are leftists. Communists are Leftists. Leftists can be extraordinarily violent.
The "we're angels and they are devils" crap is for the true believer only. Not going to win a lot of arguments that way.
So Chris Matthews has an agenda. So does Katie Couric. So does Matt Lauer. So does Bob Schieffer and Dan Rather (obviously!)
Why are you picking on one guy with an opinion? Throw 'em all out if you hate opinions so much.
Dan |
04.14.06 - 3:17 pm | #
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The clue to Chris Matthews is in his frequent invitation to Pat Buchanan. Both of them, like Bill O'Reilly, were raised as Irish Catholics (although in Buchanan's case it was the German parent who was Catholic not the Irish one). During the Cold War when they all grew up Catholics were very keen on being perceived as better patriots than Protestants or Jews. To do this they became 150% anti-communist, anti-intellectual, and often anti-semitic as well. Buchanan's anti-semitism comes out rather easily. O'Reilly's comes out in his claim that groups (in which he includes Jews)are trying to destroy Christmas. He reminds me of my Catholic 7th grade teacher who told us that Xmas was a plot to take Christ out of Christmas. She didn't know, nor did we, that the "X" stood for Christ in Greek. Of course it was the Jews who were doing this. Chris' ambivalence about Jews comes out when he talks about Israel and the neo-cons. Not that one should accept their claim that they are immune to criticism, far from it. But Chris has a tone to his voice which betrays a traditional Catholic hostility to Jews, an Irish Catholic hostility.
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04.21.06 - 2:24 pm | #
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candide, well said!
Joker |
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08.04.06 - 1:46 pm | #
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08.22.07 - 2:00 am | #
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"My point is, when we hear churches got burned down, we shouldn't assume liberals did it because today liberals don't do that! Only conservatives do. For some years, we've been saying that the biggest difference between liberals and conservatives is that they're violent extremists who use tactics of terror and we're NOT."
Oh, is that what it was when people were beating up police at the Republican convention last election. Those protestors outside were very peaceful werent they? Oh and how about the throwing Oreo cookies at Michael Steele durring a rally. Very peaceful, open minded, and accepting of all people wasn't it. How about burning down auto dealers and housing developements. Very peaceful of the liberals wasnt it? And the oh so peace loving book about killing Bush. Nothing but love in your hearts right? How about the liberal professor saying that the people who died in the World Trade Center deserved it. Just full of peace and love he was. What about those protestors trying to jump the barriers and storm the capitol. All in the name of peace I guess. I love when people show up at the funerals of fallen soldiers to protest. You liberals have such warm hearts dont you.
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"And, by the way, do not ever forget that while the Right, the establishment that oppresses rules, there's INSTITUTIONALIZED VIOLENCE on the part of teh sate that they usually control. This violence manifests itself not only in open acts of repression which, per force, must come, but in everyday affairs: unemployment, widespread poverty, unnecessary human suffering on an obscene scale, plus all the resulting morbidities—drug abuse, pervasive crime--most of it as a result of a grossly inequitable regime that destroys bodies and souls, while robbing people of fellowship and hope."
Are you serious? First, by worldwide standards we are considered to be in a state of full employment. Second, poverty? We are the most prosperous nation in history. Third, human suffering? We have freed millions of people from opression and human suffering. Ever heard of World War 2 where we beat back socialists who were killing innocent people by the millions. Lastly, the idea that we are destroying bodies and minds while robbing people of anything is a complete joke. If this is the case, why are millions and millions of people flocking to the United States? If we are so bad why do so many people want to come here? Your disgusting statements can be easily explained by something I found on your own homepage. Is everyone ready? Here it is..... Socialism in America Equals Hope for the World. If you really want socialism then you do not belong in the USA. This is where people go to escape from socialism and like systems to have some real opportunity for themselves and their families.
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