Assad is for sale, that clear. The only thing in doubt is the price. Sooner or later, though, the USraelians will have him on their payroll.
vineyardsaker,
I fully agree. The sights and sounds are so reminiscent of Sadat's sellout, earlier. But apologists for the Syrian regime (such as Uprooted) will argue that it is different this time; I disagree.
This is a very feeble regime that has no popular support and, besides rhetoric, is showing no backbone. It is bombed in broad daylight and yet is "negotiating peace." This is called capitulating and the USraelis know that full well.
"Assad is for sale" and Tony, '"fully agree". and may be some 3-4 shitty "baathis" would join the crew.
And, very soon, I shall read again the shit of "Hamas is using resistance to get to negociation table"
Politcs is an art, all I would say to save time. Assad's price is so high and USRAEL can't afford to pay.
"Politcs is an art, all I would say to save time. Assad's price is so high and USRAEL can't afford to pay."
It was so high that during the "6 hour" war , he gave orders as the minister of "defence" for the Army to withdraw from Golan where no Israelis where in sight. Ahmad Sweidani the head of the army called from Quneitera asking:
why did you announce the fall of Quneitera when I am calling you from the middle of it and not a single Israeli soldier is in sight ?????
Golan fell and only 129 syrians were killed defending it. Assad tried to lie about the number and increase it to 5000 or so , when the Information minister refused and announced the 129 number as the official number of casualties.
Uprooted what you call "Art and wisdom" we call Collaboration.
The take over of the golan was planned in 1919 In Paris , during the zionist organisation .
"The take over of the golan was planned in 1919 In Paris , during the zionist organisation ."
Zionist always had those ambitions beyond historic Palestine. It was Assad the father that surrendered it as a "thank you" token to remain in power. Assad the father had known connections and communication channels with MI5 and CIA. Once he took over he eliminated all the progressives that were against his capitulating strategy. Of course Syria's Role under Assad is well documented by serving the USRaeli plan in the region under the guise of "opposing it" a very dangerous role that apologist of the regime keep dismissing as mere "strategy". Most of the apologist never mention the Hamma massacre where over 18000 civilians were killed by the Army in 1982 in the most brutal and savage way. Think about it Saddam killed 6000 in Halbajja , the US killed 4000 in Falujah , even Israel has not killed this many civilians in one town or city...
Any person who supports this regime should be ashamed of themselves.
"Assad is for sale" and Tony, '"fully agree". and may be some 3-4 shitty "baathis" would join the crew.
Assad himself is a Baathist and, as all Baathists, he is little more than a whore offering its loyalty to the highest bidder.
Assad's price is so high and USRAEL can't afford to pay.
Every whore, whether Baathist or not, knows that if she asks for too high a price she will get slapped around or even killed - just see what happened to the Saddam. Unlike Saddam, Assad is no moronic egomaniac and he will not ask a price the USraelians cannot pay because if he does, they will simply take him out.
Syria is no Iran, and its not even an Iraq. The USraelians can 'regime change' it if they want to.
No, Assad will be a smart whore: his price will be to remain in power and for that he will sell out anything and everything.
The Saker is at again. Desperately trying to look like she/he is ignoring the Ba'athists while doing all she can to get their attention. Ok we saw you. You can relax now. Don't strain yourself too much.
But the Saker is correct.
Hassan Nafaa ended his article posted below by Tony, with a question.
Are the Syrians, with their well-known pan- Arab record, willing to play along?
My Answer is: NO
to be continued,,
As expected all the asshole gathered, but avoided this thread at the end Bashar is a Baathi
"his price will be to remain in power and for that he will sell out anything and everything."
I visited Iraq for a week, but I lived in Syria one year, but never dared to Go to Hameediyah famous market alone.
Get it, or get help: Assad's price is so high and USRAEL can't afford to pay.
Assad is not a whore. The real prostitution is putting all Baathis in one basket, and comparing Saddam (THE STUPID) with Assad (THE FOX). The Stupid fought Iran 8 years, and they killed him. The FOX never kept all his eggs in one basket, never cut Moawiya's hair with the US.
Results counts, thus said "Gevara", while attacking Hamas.
Let us see the results:
For sending 400 troops to Hafr Al-Batin, then going to Medrid, the FOX got freehand in Lebanon, and enjoyed a a very long "honey" moon regional influence. During that honey moon the Syrian "whore" negotiated with Israel but refused to sell out 1 cm of Golan, maintained close ties with Iran despite its opposition to peace with Israel, consolidated their position in Lebanon, linked the Lebanese "peace" track with his own; consolidated relations with Hezbollah and provided it, in coordination with Iran, with all the support it needed to stand firm, escalate its resistance, thus forced Israel to unconditionally withdraw from Lebanon in 2000. This RESULT (cAhieved during the Syrian American "honey" moon) was a significant turning point in the ME struggle, the first nail in the so-called peace strategy and Oslo choice that renewed the resisting option.
9/11 put an end to the Syrian-American "honey" moon, because Syria firmly opposed to the US invasion of Iraq in 2003.
With the invasion the US army became Syria's next-door neighbour, Syria was left with two options. The first was, "Peace" settlement on Usrael's terms, giving up the Syrian regional influence, sever his relations with Iran, Hezbollah and the Palestinian resistance without giving it anything in return, not even a guarantee that Israel would withdraw from the Syrian land it occupied in 1967. What the Americans were really after was Iran and Hezbollah and the Syrians knew that. The US having taken control of Iraq, was hoping to change the map of the Middle East, either peacefully or militarily. The other choice was to reject US policies.
The FOX didn't have to think long. Agreeing to US demands would have been suicide for the Syrian regime. In his speech at Damascus University he maid it clear, the cost of agreeing to US endless demands is so huge compare to the objection choice.
The FOX bowed and pulled out of Lebanon, but Hezbollah wasn't left alone. The Lebanese resistance movement rejected the call of Feb movement call to lay arms. Israel, upon the demand of the US tried but failed to achieve any of the 2006 war and Hezbollah managed to teach Israel a harsh lesson.
Results counts, thus said "Guevara", while attacking Hamas.
Yes Syria was flexible, but firm, in its opposition to the Oslo signed in 1993 without consulting Damascus. Syria provided shelter for Hamas (and other Palestinian resistance factions),
Let us see the results achived in Palestine during the past 15 years, Fath, Oslo, the PA are in Dayton's intensive care unit, Gaza is under siege, but liberated, and Hamas cornered USRAEL to face the bitter option: To invade or not to Invade, and forced Pharaoh to negotiate a truce.
Most likely, the stomach of our "Guevara" is swelling on Hamas and all the factions who accepted the truce, "Habeelas" let him down for not knoking the wall again and marching to cairo.
He is as stupid as Saddam, as stupid as A.A(SS) who wants Assad to Liberate Iskandarona,
I said before and I herby repeat, with hope that (ATTIKRAR BE ALLIM..... AL-SHUTTAR)
Selling out is Suicide, the shortest way to lose the power.
AS NATIONALIST BAATHI BASHAR CAN'T REMAIN IN POWER WITH TURN HIS BACK TO THE BAATHI DREAM OF ONE ETERNAL NATION
AS ALAWI HIS ALLAWI SECT SHALL LOSE ITS POWER IF AGREE TO US DEMANDS.
AS BASHAR, HE CAN'T DO IT WITHOUT LOSING THE POPULAR SUPORT (Debied by whores), HE IS NUMBER TWO IN ARAB PUPLIC OPINION AFTER NASRALLA AND BEFOR AHMADINJAD
Assad is primarily interested in Assad. He'll make peace with Israel in exchange for the Golan Heights. He will call it a great victory.
He'll do this because he has no real intention of assuming the mantle of Arab leader that Saddam tried. Assad will just talk, he will fight to stay in power, and he will succeed in that.
Assad doesn't trust Iran any more than he trusts anyone else.
I was attacked for saying Syria is the heart of the Arab nation. The heart is still pulsing in Lebanon, in Palestine and in Iraq, therefore it is under attack. The Struggle for that heart has not ended.
THE SELECTIVE “HONEST OBJECTIVE” SYRIA “LOVER”OMMITED THIS PART OF THE ARTICLE.
“A pattern seems to exist in which Syria acts as the region's tipping point. At crucial moments, Syria turns out to be in a position to call the shots and influence the direction and speed of events in the region. Those crucial moments have been recurring frequently of late. Even before the US invaded and occupied Iraq in 2003, Syria managed to become a main player amid power relations that evolved in the region following the Camp David Accords, the Iranian Revolution, and the Iran-Iraq war.”
“The 2006 Lebanon war was but another chapter in the "struggle for Syria". Its main objective was to disarm Hizbullah and end Syria's alliance with Iran. The next step would have been a military strike against Iran. But this wasn't to be, for Hizbullah managed to teach the Israelis a lesson. Since then, Hizbullah has been coming under mounting pressure from its Lebanese opponents. And Syria was again asked, mostly in secret talks, to abandon its coalition with both Iran and Hizbullah. Were it to do so, Damascus was promised the Golan as reward.
Israel has seemingly just informed the Syrians that it would be willing to give up the land it occupied in 1967 in future talks. The offer, relayed by Erdogan, is but another episode in the "struggle for Syria". You would think that the shift in Israel's position removes a major obstacle to a peaceful settlement in the Middle East. BUT THAT WOULD BE WISHFUL THINKING. Israel's strategic position remains unchanged. If news of the recent Israeli offer is confirmed, this can only indicate a tactical shift on the part of Israel -- an attempt to extract certain concessions from the Syrians. And even if the Israelis really mean what they say, their timing is suspicious.
Israel's overture towards the Syrians comes at a time when Palestinian-Israeli and Palestinian-US talks are stalled. It is highly unlikely that any progress will be achieved on the Palestinian track before the end of Bush's term. Even more remarkably, Israel has been building settlements at an accelerating pace since Annapolis, without a word of protest from the US. Meanwhile, various Arab mediators have been actively trying to reconcile the Palestinians in order to lift the blockade and provide a more favourable climate for peace talks.
Moreover,
Syria "Lover"s Moved to attak syria under the other thread.
Like after killing Imad Maghniye, the mission of same two.... is hunting anything and every thing and using it against the enemy.
I read the article writteb by "ANON", and failed to find any word about IRAN and Hezbullah worries, except the title.
TONY USED TO CHANGE THE TITLES TO REFLECT HIS EMOTIONS. MOST LIKELY THERE A TONY AT Middle East News
Enjoy Tony's sources, Al-Hayat and Khaddam
Shame on you
Assad is primarily interested in Assad. He'll make peace with Israel in exchange for the Golan Heights. He will call it a great victory
Of course! He will present his surrender to the USraelian empire as a great victory and he will drape his betrayal in the (already overworn) mantle of Arab nationalism. He will re-become a good buddy of the US stooges in Lebanon, Egypt, Jordan and Iraq. The murder of Mugniyah was just the prelude to an even bigger betrayal.
Abu-Faswa,
I don't support the Syrian regime. I support Syria. I do support any effort on Syrias part (regardless of the regime)to weaken the Lebanese state and maintain Syrian control over it, and eventually dismantling that little French-created sectarian circus. I have no interest in the petty sectarian bickering of the Lebanese. If Syria can swallow Lebanon up so be it. That's preferable.
The Syrian regime committed treason when they sided with the US in 91. If they were true Ba'athists they would have congratulated Iraq on the liberation of Kuwait.
In either case, you are not an Arab, and you don't believe in Arab Nationalism. You also support Iranian occupation and colonization of Iraq, so why are you complaining about or analysing Syria's Pan-Arab stance?
You have no right to expect any help from any Arab. GO liberate your land on your own. Maybe Kharamenei and ahmadinajad will help you. yalla ! roo7 7arir teezak min yalak ya chalb!
yalak=7alak
vineyardsaker, it will become a Syrian national holiday, just as Egypt celebrates its great victory over Israel.
Arab Advocate, there is no Pan-Arab nationalism, at least in any real practice.
For Syria, peace with Israel will get it back the Golan Heights, secure the only border they really need to worry about, and even maybe someday get it Lebanon.
I'd think most Syrian citizens would rather peace with Israel rather than civil war. I'd also think most Syrian citizens would rather Assad than the violence his absense would have.
@David: you write I'd think most Syrian citizens would rather peace with Israel rather than civil war
Sadly, I have become convinced over the years that there cannot be any such thing as "peace with Israel", only peace *after* Israel. Israel, as such, is a) a colonial experiment b) a fundamentally racist entity and c) an inevitably aggressive and militaristic state whose very existence is an affront to civilized mankind and an 'existential threat' (to use the Neocon's favorite expression) to the Middle-East.
If the people of Syria really believe that there can be such a thing as "peace with Israel" they are kidding themselves.
Now, it is thinkable that the Jews of Palestine would one day give up their racist ideology and decide to transform their racist Israel into a 'normal' state, in which case Israel not define itself as a "Jewish State" but as a democratic, multi-ethnic and multi-religious, civilized, state. But while this is thinkable, I am not holding my breath. My guess is that Israel will eventually simply disappear or, to use Khomeini's words, "vanquish from the pages of time". The current generation of Israelis are too hell-bend on violence and terror to prevent any other outcome. They will bring that upon themselves.
Uprooted:
A Dog does not question why he barks.
vineyardsaker, I think Syria will make peace with Israel, even if it is a cold peace.
If enough years go by, I could see Israel becoming what you have described, although I understand your doubts.
In the meantime....
David,
The Arab people see themselves as part of a single collective unit despite their division into various states. Some of these states make sense (Egypt, Algeria, Iraq (with kuwait), but other are entirely artificial (Kuwait, Lebanon, Jordan). In either case Arabs see themselves as part of one nation. This is a fact. It also explains why Arabs head to Iraq to fight Iraqis, why Arabs from Morocco to the Gulf joined the PLO, Why Egyptians fought in Libya and Algeria, Why Jordanians fought in Palestine with the PLO, and I can go on and on and give numerous examples. That's not necessary however. It is not disputed that Arab view themselves as one and have always sought unity in some form. Not necessarily ONE STATE, but atleast some sort of confederation or atleast coordination. (States like Lebanon, Jordan, and Kuwait will not last of course)
Now it is also an established, undisputed fact that the Arabs have NEVER been given a democratic choice in how they want to organize their societies. The current political order was imposed on them by colonial powers. Once the Arabs are given a choice and democratically define their own destiny they will inevitably move toward a unified vision.
In the meantime, the select few in the Arab world (like our Pro-Iran occupation of Iraq, resident-Mufti)who reject this Arab identity have no right to complain about the lack of Arab solidarity.
I assume his drivel above is supposed to be some sort of "analysis". I quickly glanced over it and saw phrases such as "sell out". He has no right to use such a term in describing the Syrian regime. If the Syrian regime makes peace with Israel and takes back the Golan Heights Syria has NOT "sold out" anyone. They regained their land. In fact, it would probably be in Syria's interest to work with Israel and cooperate.
Abu-Faswa needs to make up his mind, but he can't betray Iraq and then ask for Arab help in Palestine. Doesn't work that way.
"fight WITH Iraqis" in the first paragraph.
@David: you write I think Syria will make peace with Israel, even if it is a cold peace.
Oh, I agree that they will do it. I just think that they will end up paying a huge price for doing so.
But then, I never had any hopes for the Syrian regime anyway...
Arab Advocate, I do understand what you are saying, but I don't see than manifested in real life.
I do see sectarian, clan, tribal, Nationalistic things going on. But, I would not confuse that with any sort of Arab unity, or even Muslim unity.
There will be a cold peace between Israel and Syria. I've seen reports of full diplomatic relations between Israel and Bahrain. It's not fair to the Palestians, but it is what's going on.
Arab Advocate, I do undertand your hope, I simply don't believe it.
vineyardsaker, I am saying what I think Syria will do. I have not really expressed any wants or hopes what Syria will do. Do you understand what I mean?
@David: yes I do. I am just expressing my sadness at what you (correctly) predict will happen. I did not mean to argue with you.
vineyardersaker, you or anyone else can argue with me, and should. You probably have a better idea of local ideas.
That said, I can look at the situation, maps, etc., and get an idea of what I think is going on.
Thank you for having a civil convernsation with me.
Arab Advocate, I do undertand your hope, I simply don't believe it.
David | 05.02.08 - 11:41 pm |
David,
It's not a hope or a dream. In fact it's inevitable. I would remind you that the picture you receive of the Arab world is highly distorted. It is a diverse Arab world but it is just as cohesive and united in it's definition of itself as Germany or France.
In either case, I wasn't arguing the Arab Nationalist perspective. I was referring to those who reject it in principle. I was really just making a common sense points.
Abu-Faswa (Father of the fart if you don't know Arabic) stated clearly his opposition to Arab Nationalism. He even gave us a hillarious lecture on Islamis history, theology, and jurisprudence recently. The point of his "lecture" was that Iran is a Muslim country and is just as entitled to Iraq as any other Muslim IN IRAQ. He rejected Arab Nationalism and called for an "Islamic Caliphate". He also expressed support for the murderers of the Iraqi people, the Sectarian gangsters hunkered down in the Green Zone. They pledge allegiance to Khomeinis regime, and were dispatched by the Persian Mullahs who rule Iran. to Baghdad on the back of the Great Satan's army.
For the rest of us who live in the real world, we recognize that Iran is a nation-state pursuing its own interest. We oppose Iranian occupation of Iraq and the murder of the Iraqi people. We also believe Iraq is an Arab country and its liberation should be supported by all Arabs. Since Abu-Faswa rejects this idea then why should be expect other Arabs to help him in his struggle in Palestine against the Zionist occupation? Why would he call the Syrian, or any Arab regime, a "sell out" for making peace with Israel. Syria is not occupied. Neither is Egypt or Saudi Arabia. Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, and Libya are not occupied, and neither is Jordan or Lebanon or Kuwait, or Oman, Qatar, and Yemen. Since were all on our own, then he should go fight Zionist occupation by himself. That's why I told himi "roo7 harir teezak min 7alak" which means "go liberate your own ass by yourself..".
cont...
correction:
Syria is not occupied once Israel withdraws from the Golan.
DAVID,
I was responding to him and his opposition to Arab nationalism. He needs to be consistent.
Anyway, more importantly, we all should be on the side of justice. The cause of Palestinian liberation and Iraqi freedom is NOT an Arab cause. It is a human cause. We are all part of a single humanity and freedom and human rights are universal values. I am not from Vietnam or South Africa, but I supported the Vietnamese resistance and was opposed to Apartheid.
In the end our politics and positions should be grounded in universal human values and morality. My emphasis on the Arab National perspective here is due to the specific attacks on the identity. They are not a complete representation of my views. This is why I decided to expand a little bit with you here.
I may have been rude to you in the past. Please accept my apology.
Arab Advocate, you don't owe me any anything, but thank you for your apology.
I would be interested if you care to expand on your thoughts. I would like to speak to eachother, even if we disagree. And we may very well disagree. But so what?
You said this was not a complete representation of your views, I would like a complete reprsentation of your views.
That said, I'm not a big fan of Saddam, even if I'm a veteran and not a fan of the war in Iraq.
Those facts are not mutually exclusive.
David,
Sure thing. And I don't expect everyone to support the same leader I support. Hell, not even Moses, Jesus, or Mouhamed were able to garner a consensus.
As far as all has been said recently, I can summarize my position as follows.
1)I am opposed to both US and Iranian occupation of Iraq.
2)I am a secular person who does not support the Persian Mullah's regime in Tehran, and
3)I know for a fact that what has been said about the previous Iraqi regime and the demonization campaign of Saddam Hussein is (by definition)largely a fictional account created by the US dominated Western Press.
Nobody rely replied to anything. Calling people "racists" and "whores" is not a discussion, it's a declaration of moral and intellectual bankruptcy. I stopped taking this too seriously after about 48 hours. I do find the participants to be an excellent source of online entertainment.
"I was responding to him and his opposition to Arab nationalism."
A.A(ASS)
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Ya Ibn esharmuta, where I said that I am against Arab nationalism?
Stop lying and putting words I never said on my mouth.
I critisized, your shitty Party, and Stupid Leader, who destoyed, his party, his courty, and Arab Nationalism.
If you consider that Your Leader and your Party are the Symbols of Arab Nationalism, Fuck you and your nationalism. We have seen your nationalism in Syria in 1961, and in Jodran in Black September, and in Lebanon, where you supported Syria, Via Helping General Aon.
Those who suported seperation of Syria from UAR, are not Nationalist. Those who failed even to unit Syria and Iraq, unite their own Party are not Nationalist, Those who failed in uniting Iraqi people are not nationalists.
Real Brave Nationalist are Like Habash (The Real profit of Arab Nationalism and Armed resistance, tied and Failed retired and said: We failed, let them try.
Ya Khawal, Get it, I am Palestinian by Birth, Arabic by Nation, Muslim by Faith.
Ya Musailama
Where I called for an "Islamic Caliphate"?
Ya AAkrout,
I firmly believe, that all the "Islamic Caliphate", has nothing to do with Islam and Quran. I believe it is not a mere coincidance the Our Prohet PUH, died after the whole Quaran was revealed.
If Allah Wants Mohamed to a Politcal leader he would have kept him alive.
Quaran dealt with every thing, except state Issues, Nothing there about, the nature of the State, Kingdom, Caliphate, repulic.
In Quaran they are two and only two verses about Shura, and if read carefully in the sequence, both frmly confirm that it the people who select, and kick the ass of the Leader. I shall come back to this later.
I always wondered why Shura is not amony the 5 pillars ( AS TOLD By Bukhari) of Islam. To get the Answer, ask Moawiyah, Abu Jaafar Al-Mansour, etc... ask Saddam, Mubarak, add Assad and all the Arab Leader, except, the Sudanize, Mohamad Swar AlDhahab.
The Prophet never apointed Ali as Shea claimed, or, indirectly Hinted to Abu Bakr as Sunna claimed.
Simply, he left the Isue to Muslims, The selection of Abu Baker was goverened by tribal power balance.
Anu Bakr, Omar, etc.. looked around and found that Bezentine Empires, Persion Kisra Stayed in Power until death, and they simply did the same.
"We oppose Iranian occupation of Iraq and the murder of the Iraqi people."
Ya aars
You Fought Iran 8 years for Uncle Sam, and Killed Millions of Iraqis and Iranians,
The Syrians are behind this. Check out my analysis here:
http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.co...t.co...-leader-
in.html
And let me know what you think.
The Saker
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It is going to be awfully hard for Assad to distance himself from the actions of Shawkat. Assad better be really, really careful now because if this theory is accepted by Hezbollah there will be hell to pay for him.
vineyardsaker | Homepage | 02.13.08 - 5:48 pm | #
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Your Credibilty is Zero when Syria is Concerned.
Jumblatt Played a Role in Moghniyeh Assassination?
http://www.manartv.com.lb/NewsSi...s.aspx?
id=42427
It's me Uprooted Palestinian
Your Credibilty is Zero when Syria is Concerned.
That's fine by me. You are entitled to your opinion. However, I have yet to see any evidence which would weaken my quasi-certainty that the Syrian regime was an accomplice in Mugniyah's murder.
Jumblatt Played a Role in Moghniyeh Assassination?
I saw the al-Manar article and it raises more questions than it answers. First and foremost, how does Jumblatt have *anything* to do with the protection (or lack therefor) of high-risk targets in Damascus.
I think that Assad is very much in charge in Syria, he is already careful. That said, anything he does will not be met with any dissension, because he will not allow it. He learned well from his father.
http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.co...t.co...-leader-
in This link doesn't work.
@David: check out this link:
http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.co...-leader-
in.html
Thank you vineyardsaker
I don't know if Israel or Syria carried out the assasination. Or perhaps some other party.
" this theory is accepted by Hezbollah there will be hell to pay for him."
Why would there be hell to pay? Hezbollah depends on Syria (and Iran), Syria does not depend upon Hezbollah.
Syria will back Hezbollah as long as there is an advantage to doing so. It will stop when there is no advantage.
Who's going to object? The Syrian population? Assad will tolerate no dissent, so I don't see that as a problem.
The U.S., Israel? Please.
The only actor who might care or try to do anything would be Iran. I don't see that there is much Iran could do.
Internal problems in Lebanon work to the advantage of Syria.
Why would there be hell to pay? Hezbollah depends on Syria (and Iran), Syria does not depend upon Hezbollah.
Actually, I don't believe that Hezbollah depends on anybody at all, but then neither of us can prove it either way.
What I would say here is that turning on Hezbollah would be a huge political risk for any Arab leader, in particular after the war of 2006. I would also add that Hezbollah does have the means to take on the Syrian regime if needed. More relevantly, it also has the guts to do so. I am in no way suggesting that it will, or should do this, I am just saying that once the Hezbollah leadership decides who is to blame for Mugniyah's murder they will retaliate for it, at a time of their choosing of course.
Contrary to the popular perception, I do not believe that any Arab ruler is really safe from a determined attack by a force as capable as Hezbollah (which, in the context of an Arab country, I consider a *more* capable force than Iran).
This is all speculation of course, and only time will tell.
My 2cts.
I thought I smelled something. Again, name calling does not help you. You're embarassing yourself. Also, stop lying. You gave us a "lecture" on Islamic theology, history, and Jurisprudence in order to justify Iranian occupation of Iraq. Remember your quote about "la farqa bein arabi w ajami..." You were clearly defending Iranian occupation of Iraq and the murder of Iraqis by Iranian sponsored Phalange of Iraq. If you were important enough I would find the thread for you, but you're irrelevant.
Iraq did not fight Iran. Iran attacked Iraq and Iraq engaged in a war of self-defense. Iran lost and Iraq remained free and indpendent. It was not until Uncle Sam, the Great Satan arrived did the Khomeini regime succeed in invading and occupying Iraq, something you support.
Stop mentioning Habash in order to pretend you are not a sectarian, primitive, ignorant person. You already tried the sectarian card and it did not work. Mentioning him does not work either. You already exposed yourself. People know this game. It's like when Lou Dobbs mentions a spanish name to pretend he is not a rabid racist.
Now why don't you run along and go liberate Palestine. Go ask Ahmadinajad for help. Don't expect anything from Arabs. Go get help from Iran.
And try to clean up the potty mouth. It's not nice.
The Khomeinieites here.
http://thumbsnap.com/v/sNgKGCaR.jpg
The Ba'ath Here.
http://thumbsnap.com/v/OrjSkPOl.jpg
http://thumbsnap.com/v/rnLWSjcV.jpg
http://thumbsnap.com/v/JHIHor1a.jpg
THE SADDAMITES-BAATHITES HERE:
Most of the members of the Al-Sahwa are former Ba’ath party members, military and security officials who served under the Saddam Hussein regime.
(...) The services of the Al-Sahwa members are used by the Coalition forces to manage the security by countering insurgent groups, including the Al-Qaeda terrorists. In order to establish the indigenous character of the Al-Sahwa group and strategy, the U.S. forces refer to its members as “Sons of Iraq”. But these “Sons of Iraq” are performing important public diplomacy functions for the U.S. Abu Azam, one of the founders of the Al-Sahwa, has referred to the threats that his group is facing from Iran and Syria in the process of stabilizing Iraq. The U.S. insistence that Iran is seeking to de-stabilize Iraq is expected to gain credence if a segment of the Iraqi population supports the claim.
(re: Bhasin Guest Editorial: Is the U.S. creating another Al- Qaeda in Iraq?
And some of these defeated dead-enders even come to honest blogs like this one, to lash out with viperine tongues at anyone who does not support their deranged script, made in US-rael.
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"I am just saying that once the Hezbollah leadership decides who is to blame for Mugniyah's murder they will retaliate for it, at a time of their choosing of course."
No you were saying that syria did it to please the US, You were saying that Aseff did it to save his ass.
However I agree with you "turning on Hezbollah would be a huge political risk for any Arab leader, in particular after the war of 2006."
But, almost all arab leaders took that huge political risk. From humble point of view, Assad is the only leader who wouk think bilion times before turning on Hezbullah. I think it is the Syrian people who shall retalate. During Jully war, a lebanese refugee entered a shop in Damuscus to buy something, The shop owner asked him about Lebanon, the lebanese Blamed Nasralla, and was beaten by the Syrian, people gathered to stop the fight, but once they knew the reason every one gave the Lebanese his "2 cc"
To my best knowledge, The Godfather of Bashar is Nasrallah, not his real father.
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"First and foremost, how does Jumblatt have *anything* to do with the protection (or lack therefor) of high-risk targets in Damascus."
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I guess, Jumblatt is involved, at least in spying on Magniyah, and tracking him upto the borders, were other continued the mission of following him to his safeheaven.
Hezbollah: We're Studying Israeli Reports on Jumblatt
http://www.manartv.com.lb/NewsSi...543&
language=en
@Uprooted:
I said two different things. I said:
1) That the Syrian regime helped kill Mughniyah on order of the USraelian empire.
and
2) That in doing so it took a huge risk.
Jumblatt is involved, at least in spying on Magniyah, and tracking him upto the borders, were other continued the mission
So you are saying that Jumblatt has a covert intelligence capability which can defeat Hezbollah's security (not to mention that Syrian Mukhabarat)?!
That is nonsense...
where others continued the mission
And who might that be?!!
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الأسد يرفض ربط الجولان بقطع العلاقة مع إيران وحزب الله
Assad refused to sell out Hizbullah and Iran for Golan
http://www.assafir.com/Article.a...eId=745&
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So you are saying that Jumblatt has a covert intelligence capability which can defeat Hezbollah's security (not to mention that Syrian Mukhabarat)?!
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Don't put words on my mouth. Since the begining I said Israel did it,
Jumblat is a on of the tools.
Abu Faswa
"don't put words in my mouth" you say. That's a joke coming from you.
So you are saying that Jumblatt has a covert intelligence capability which can defeat Hezbollah's security (not to mention that Syrian Mukhabarat)?!
That is nonsense...
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Tonight, Imad Marmal Of Al-manar, intervied Kamal Fayad, the ex-security officer of Jumblat in Beirut.
Fayad claimed, that Jumblat tried to assasimate Magniyeh in middle 1980s.
He said that Jumblat assasinated Sheikhs Subhi Al-saleh and Hassan Khalid. Syria was blaimed for both.
Oh, I did not mean to say that Jumblatt could not try to kill Mugniyah. What I meant to say is that he could not do succeed in beating Hezbollah security, much less so IN SYRIA.
And since Jumblatt is acting like the total SOB (that is really is) anti Jumblatt people now have an incentive to pin anything and everything on him
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