May be I should say something positive:
The good news is: As long as the Pal. survive - that long there
is hope. Even when outright traitors like Abbas take over - the
rights of the Palestinian will not vanish - and time works against
the occupation - and against racism.
Great Post Tony.Bravo
I thought John Negroponte is the one responsible for the death squads?
I had a Dream,
They both were responsible, so was Otto Reich. Negroponte was U.S. ambassador to Honduras who was supervising the CIA training of death squads including the infamous Battalion 316, responsible for some of the worst human rights abuses. Abrams was assistant secretary of state and covered up a lot of the secret arming and financing of the Contras in Nicaragua.
The zionists and their supporters have the nerve to criticize the Palestinians and call them barbarians.
"Dahlan to submit and implement a plan on how to disarm the resistance and stop the launching of rockets from Gaza."
But why? The Qassams worked so well for the Arabs in Gaza.
someone needs to smoke dahlan
> The Qassams worked so well for the Arabs in Gaza.
Qassams are not deterring Israel - that's part of the problem.
mo
Marhaba ! 
I had a dream
Did you read about the Phoenix Program in Vietnam it was all about death squads and Kidnapping and torture by the US forces to civilians and insurgents who fought the occupation .
fatima
marhabtain!
:D
It is interesting how some prefer to throw Abu Mazen and Dahlan to the political Islamists by undermining the authority of the PA and dissolving the PLO. Hamas has never functioned within the structure of the organizational and political command of the Palestinian peoples' struggle. It has never agreed to the goals and objectives of the PLO but instead parses words that imply one thing while meaning something else totally. In place of independence for Palestine is a proposed incorporation of Palestinian peoples' lands into an Islamis waqf and its subordination to a pan-Islamic regional oligarchy, undoubtedly controlled by Iran.
Did you ever read about CO-INTEL where the FBI used the conflict between the revolutionary nationalism of the Black Panther Party and the cultural nationalism of the organization called US in order to set up the Panthers for extermination and repression?
I am happy to see the palestinians killing themselves for a change instead of killing everyone else. Wooo hoo- hopefully they keep it up till Hamas is all dead.
All they ever do is glorify killing. Now that they can't kill Israelis as easily as before... all they got left is to kill each other.
Tony, excellent post, very incisive analysis. On As'ad's blog I compared what's going on to the "protection racket" used by mobsters. Not a perfect analogy (but than again analogies are not supposed to be perfect).
It was also simple to see the same actions taking place in Palestine, which occurred in Iraq (but in Iraq longer, with worse intensity). First the sanctions which weakened Iraq terribly, than the attack. I guess they have trouble thinking of different strategies. Good stuff.
Tony
Im sure you ll be interested in this article sorry for others who dont read Arabic
http://www.sotaliraq.com/iraq-ne...ws.php?
id=53855
Australian , glad you are having fun. enjoy .
Just received my new book by naeim Giladi : Ben Gurion's scandals and how the Hagannah Eliminated Jews .
this is what he says on the back of the book
I wrote my book: to tell the American people, and especially American Jews, that Jews from Islamic lands did not emigrate willingly to Israel; that, to force them to leave, Jews killed Jews; and that, to buy time to confiscate ever more Arab lands, Jews on numerous occasions rejected genuine peace initiatives from their Arab neighbors. I write about what the first prime minister of Israel called "cruel Zionism." I write about it because I was part of it.
i have waited more than a year on a waiting list for it . there was just one copy on stock this week . it was banned in israel and the US for years.
oh , and i also received this new book 2 days ago
The Power of Israel in the United States by James Petras . ( it is dedicated to Rachel corrie ) anyone who wants plenty of info how the threat of saddam was hiped by the Neocons should read it , im just in the beginning .
> I am happy to see the palestinians killing themselves
That's not surprising in slaveholder societies - especially for
those with a genocidal past like Australia.
I know this is a horrifying thesis, but now that most of us have got used to the idea that 'al Qaeda' is a mere CIA-Mossad device for providing patsies and pretexts for US clampdowns worldwide, popping up on demand wherever necessary like a Mockingbird...
OK - so how is this not true of 'Hamas Military Wing'?
Rowan Berkeley,
It is a good question. The fact that Islam has been used in the past as a reactionary force to serve colonial agendas should make us weary. There are exceptions and Hizbullah is the most prominent exception.
To my mind, the jury is still out on Hamas. Some of its agenda is reactionary, but at least it is willing to stand up for Palestinian rights and fight for these rights. It is not clear how much of that fighting is for show or to serve an ulterior motive. Time will tell.
The day that the U.S. sent Mark Dayton to Palestine (formerly of Camp Cropper Bagdhad) and announced the funding, expansion, training and arming of Abbas' Presiential Guard with the blessings of Israel (at least the gov't, the people were appalled) was the first day Fatah and Hamas forces had a "clash". I knew Nicaragua had been brought to Palestine.
It is also being brought to Lebanon and Pakistan (where NED's new democracy project is).
Note the overwhelming force used in Lebanon to counter the new group causing problems that NO ONE there supports.
I wish everyone there luck and pray for them daily. The U.S. has its fingerprints all over the place and it's not only disturbing it is shameful.
Great post Tony. http://commonsense.jasegraves.co...h.aspx?
q=Dayton
http://commonsense.jasegraves.co...spx?
q=nicaragua
http://commonsense.jasegraves.co...med-
dahlan.aspx
now that most of us have got used to the idea that 'al Qaeda' is a mere CIA-Mossad device for providing patsies and pretexts for US clampdowns worldwide, popping up on demand wherever necessary like a Mockingbird...OK - so how is this not true of 'Hamas Military Wing'?
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Hamas has nothing to gain and everything to lose.....that's how.
The only ones who gain from civil wars in Palestine and Lebanon are Israel and the United States. They never gave Hamas a chance to prove what they could do as a political entity....they pulled the funding to make them fail at the expense of everyone else.
Same with Hezballah - after the war - who actually took action to help the people? Not the government until they were kicked in the a**. HZ stepped up to the plate.
Ad don't thnik we are worried that they'll install an Islamist theocracy, we could care less, Israel is a theocracy. BUT, Islam has rules about business, interest, etc. What?
We can't do business with people that don't do it like us.That's why we hate Chavez, he won't play ball right. Simple.
We can't have that.....no no no no no....
Tony, in case you don't know. This article of yours (dd. mar 17th) has been translated into french for the International Solidarity Movement website, Switzerland. Congratulations. It is an excellent analysis.
http://www.ism-suisse.org/news/a...t=R%C3%
A9formes
Oh god, I'm thick today. Things cannot be done hurriedly. Where it reads (dd. mar 17th) must read MAY 17th
Sorry again
Tony: well said. At the end you wrote: "With all of my criticisms of Hamas, it is the only major force standing up to the Contras and their dark plans. That much we have to recognize."
I agree. Their stance is honourable even though most of what we read and hear about them, like Hizbollah and others, paints them as fanatic little demons. However, if their stance is essentially honourable - including brave of course - what does that make those who are against them? They could possibly be honourable too, but if you are right - as I believe - that mainly they are fighting against a faction within Palestine which is selling out to the enemy, i.e. dishonourable, then all the media pundits and enablers who keep painting Hamas as criminals and thugs are no better themselves. What a mess!
In any case, this is why many of us are now beginning to 'support' our enemies. Because we see they are essentially honourable and it is 'we' who are lying, deceiving, being selfish, and all too often on the 'wrong' side of the issues and making things worse, far worse, indeed are the cause of most of the major problems in the world instead of being in the vanguard of providing solutions and making the world a better place for our children. Which is what everyone really wants to do.
Why are 'we' not on the right side of things, that is the question. And it is not being asked enough, especially of those currently handling the levers of power in our society in the media, corporate and political classes especially.
Canadian,
Thanks for a thoughtful comment.
You said, "Why are 'we' not on the right side of things, that is the question." Well, until recently Canada used to be on the right side and used to be admired around the world for that. But since Harper came to power, Canada started to tag along with the U.S. Neocons in fighting aggressive wars around the world, such as in Afghanistan. In addition, the blind and fanatic support of Israeli occupation and colonization of the Palestinians has markedly increased under Harper.
More Canadians need to speak out against Harper and his policies. Americans, when travelling abroad, used to pretend to be Canadians to avoid hostility and potential trouble; this will not be the case now.
Tony: I have picked up from Global Research.ca that Canada no longer controls its own military. Yesterday whilst driving to work I found out that Paul Martin signed a deal last year giving Canada the obligation to provide the US with at least 70% of its energy supplies no matter what. This was called in during a show discussing Nova Scotian energy sustainability and the caller rightly pointed out: if we can't retain what we produce since it is already spoken for, how can you develop a 'security' policy in terms of energy? Both panelists agreed with the caller, one remarking that this was just another example of critical legislation being passed without parliamentary or media review.
Yesterday, there were violent outbreaks during a demonstration in Halifax Nova Scotia protesting the new Maritime Union with the US being discussed.
In short, Canada has already gone the way of the US: a corporatocracy in all but name. It is a great pity.
By 'we' I meant the developed world, really, not one particular nation therein.
I do not like the neocons, but I think they do a better job of describing the world as they see it and then ensuring that the world they see is the world they get, i.e. a Manichean nightmare. There may very well be a World War soon simply because those not aligned with this world view are not united enough to undermine it. In a strange way, it seems like those who are resisting the US Empire are the friends of those of us citizens, including Canadian and Brits for example, not to mention French and Germans etc., live under its leadership.
I have come to the conclusion that nothing going on is any different nowadays then in previous times, just the technology, mainly communications industrial infrastructure and weaponry, have changed. Whenever a population becomes prosperous, naturally certain conduits of power and wealth become entrenched and no less naturally ruling elites emerge whose agenda increasingly is to maintain a status quo whereby they retain their superior wealth and status. At this point, the gap between rich and power widens to the point of unworkability, and a revolution from below ensues.
This will happen again, no doubt, but probably not before extraordinary, and widespread, suffering. What is playing out in Palestine is like a key acupuncture point reflecting the injustice and power plays endemic throughout the post WW II world order.
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