Is it really a surprise that Christians are being intolerant, again, again?
You're right about his one, Mssr. Griffin.
Whoops. Wrong Button.
You have characterized Miller well-these kids only require that they are forced to watch other kids eat. Seems easy enough to me, because I had and have friends who were Jehovah's Witnesses, and we didn't make 'em celebrate Christmas, at least at my school, deep in God's country: Southeastern Indiana.
I wonder, really, what kind of a person chooses this battle, this way, and essential picks on kids. Fucking Bully.
As far as Miller's supports go, I really doubt hanging a crucifix is the same as a couple of Muslim kids sitting in an empty classroom. It's not like they're proselytizing, and therein lies the difference: People like Miller are, and would, on the public dime, if they could, ergo, Bible based education.
Jeez...what a despicable asshole.
Jesus loves me this I know . . . . that apparently is all Ms. Miller needs to know. Man, when will we be done with these nuts?
Yeah, what an asshole. As the article points out, public schools already serve fish during Lent and offer meals without pork, as they should. Students may pray on campus, but not on classroom time. There's a world of difference between promoting religious beliefs and accomodating them, and this clearly falls into the latter category.
I mean, sheesh, it's not like the school is making all the non-Muslim students fast or go to another room to eat while those two students occupy the cafeteria.
"If they made you go to school on Sunday mornings, Christians would have to have their ability to practice their religion."
So, why don't "they" make you go to school on Sunday mornings?
I'm sure it has nothing to do with "us" being a christian nation
What does it mean to be a "christian nation"? That we all believe we have been washed in the blood or that we follow all the commandments or what? Hell, christians can't even agree on what it means to be christian. It is simply a falsehood and a torturing of history behond recognition to claim that this country has ever been a "christian" nation. But, hey, these folk believe the world is only 6000 years old and that it emerged full blown from the head of Zeus or god or some such, so why would a few facts get in the way of their mythic belief?
Majority Christian nation, yes. Christian nation, no. There's a big difference.
Well, as we can see, this is what happens when a right wing, religiously immersed administration takes control and throws the entire world into a tail spin.
In two weeks, we have the opportunity to correct this abomination - from the top down.
If I was a kid at that school, and I saw that 2 Muslim kids got to go into a seperate room and not eat, I would have definitely wanted to switch to that religion! Christians don't get seperate rooms to sit in and not eat- how lame!
What a fucking moron. Did you watch the video of her? That was hilarious.
To reinforce Travis G, we don't live in a Christian Nation. Sure, more than 50% of the Country practices one form or another of Christianity, but that does not mean we are a Theocracy, no matter how hard the right wing tries.
Another good argument to get the government out of schooling altogether. The school yard should not be politicized, but as long as it is government controlled people will continue to push agendas.
I don't care if it is reading "My Two Mommies" or forced diversity sensitivity training on one side, or Christian fanatics on the other side. Both sides continue to use the government classrooms as a battleground to push their own agendas.
Putting the government in charge of education was always a bad idea.
Some of you wierdos need to be more afraid of the mooselimbs than the Christians...
Yeah, you knw those guys were in the library learning how to become suicide bombers to get revenge on all the infidels eating lunch.
cranley is a bigot. Right Brian
One Trick Pony, is that all you have?
Let's remember that Mrs. Miller didn't try to hide her agenda when running for office, and the good people of Mason voted her in anyway. They are getting only what they asked for. Makes me glad I don't live there.
Do you have to go to church to call yourself a christian? Are there specific requirements as to how you live? Or is it something any Tom, Dick, and Mary can simply declare -- just to cover their bases in case there really is a god whose eye is on the sparrow, not to mention me, who might send me to the ravages of hell for all eternity? If being a christian involves something beyond the simple declaration, then a majority of Americans aren't even christian. It's just a stupid argument, given that less than 50% of Americans attend religious services of any kind on a regular basis. We are basically a hypocrite or backsliding or lying nation, if we are anything -- but certainly not christian.
Note that Miller was the lowest vote-getter of those actually elected to the school board, that the election was during a levy battle, and Miller was a part of the hardcore anti-levy nut group CARE. She was voted in by them, and it is they -- with the help of Miller -- who are making a mockery of the school board. Her election was about anti-levy, not "Christian values." PUH-LEASE don't characterize Mason by this vocal minority. A majority of residents are Christian but DON'T support Miller and her public bigotry, the anti-Muslim campaign being the latest display of that.
So if a majority of Mason residents oppose Miller, where's the outrage? The only Mason resident quoted in the paper was Shakila Ahmad, who is an Enquirer edit. board adviser (which wasn't noted in the paper). No one else there seems to be terribly upset about this.
One Trick Pony, is that all you have?
Brian Griffin | Homepage | 10.27.06 - 12:13 am | #
Didn't you recently delete a comment that called you a "One Trick Pony"?
Dozens of people attend school board meetings, write letters, and express disgust over the tactics used by the Miller supporters (AKA: the CARE militia). The Enquirer needs to ask the question of more than Shakila Ahmad, who is far too sophisticated and respectable to say what she really ought to say about Miller and her ilk. For sure, more regular joes need to speak out, but how? Hold a press conference to say they think Miller's a joke?
To add: I can't/don't/won't speak for even a small group in Mason, but many people support the Christian message and wonder what the law allows/disallows in regard to accommodations for observance in public schools. Creating dialogue about the issue would have been appropriate; instead, Miller chose to name-call, bully, and brow beat. She does not represent the Christianity that I know nor does she effectively represent the public, since she is a public servant and, to that end, should be creating discussion and promoting education -- not fisticuffs.
That video is frightening.
many people support the Christian message and wonder what the law allows/disallows in regard to accommodations for observance in public schools.
I'm curious what you mean by this, if you're still around. I would think that the primary standard is whether the accomodations or the observance itself presents a disruption to a school's purpose, which, of course, is educating children.
This accomodation clearly doesn't create a disruption (not in school, at least, or among the students; the adults apparently are another matter). Same would go for prayer circles or other activities that don't remove students from classroom time or distract other students during theirs.
Okay, I watched the video. Could that Miller person be any dumber? What a useless twat.
Brendan is a first class assclown NOBODY visits his site.
Mr. Griffin has clearly never been to the Netherlands or France nor has any idea of what those nations are going through now that they have a significant Muslim population (~6%).
Unfortunately there are far too many people who think its politically incorrect to criticize other religions until it is far too late. The US's shared values are much closer to European ones than they are Muslim ones. The Muslims are the ones who must learn to adapt to our environment if they wish to live here, not vice-versa.
Bob,
You are a bigot and a jingoistic prick. Yeppers, those are names. I called you name. I am going to call you names everytime you act like a bigot and jingoistic prick.
"The US's shared values are much closer to European ones than they are Muslim ones."
Except when the Europeans don't support George's bullshit military adventures... then its "freedom fries" all the way.
Good Christ...you realize that appeal is the same one used by the Aryan Resistance...
The more I read stories like this, the stronger my atheism becomes.
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