Who was the original attorney for Valadez, and who was the attorney for Sanchez and Ahumada?
Melissa Zamora | Homepage | 11.07.07 - 6:52 pm | #

Thanks for the coverage Chris - hopefully things can now move forward - or at least that is what smart people would do - we can hope - for me it is not as important as who wins, but that it ends and they move forward

Bobby WC
Bobby Wightman-Cervantes | 11.07.07 - 7:05 pm | #

"Who was the original attorney for Valadez..."

I believe Valadez' original attorney is Zavaletta's attorney, Rollins Koppel.

"who was the attorney for Sanchez and Ahumada?"

The attorney representing Ahumada & Sanchez (but not PUB, if I understand it correctly) is Larry Warner.

My guess, shared with others who attended this hearing, is that Valadez was offered the same deal as Dr. Zavaletta. For whatever reason, be it pressure from Ahumada or some sense of loyalty to the Mayor after the botched re-appointment attempt, Valadez declined it & switched representation. A truly boneheaded move, if I'm reading this right.

Christopher Davis | Homepage | 11.07.07 - 9:57 pm | #

I do not understand why the hearing took so long- did Judge Leal actually make a ruling in Vasquez's favor or did the parties just simply agree to extend the TRO?

What has me confused is there should not be any dispute as to the facts. What day did valadez become qualified to serve.

The confusion seems to be in the law - service begins on the day you qualify to serve and not on the actual day service begins. (Trevino seems to be arguing) If this is the law, the hearing should have been no more than an hour.

My confusion is, what where the arguing about?
Bobby Wightman-Cervantes | 11.07.07 - 10:08 pm | #

thank you.
Melissa Zamora | Homepage | 11.07.07 - 10:09 pm | #

Still, I don't quite understand what it means to be "non-suited with prejudice."
Melissa Zamora | Homepage | 11.07.07 - 10:10 pm | #

"I don't quite understand what it means to be 'non-suited with prejudice.'"

With prejudice.
2nd definition fits best, I think.

Christopher Davis | Homepage | 11.07.07 - 10:33 pm | #

"...service begins on the day you qualify to serve and not on the actual day service begins"

Yes. But service is tenure.

Term (and its limits) is another matter entirely.

Edit to add:
So the above sentence should actually be:

"... tenure begins on the day you qualify to serve and not on the actual day the term begins"

Christopher Davis | Homepage | 11.07.07 - 10:37 pm | #

"I do not understand why the hearing took so long..."

The research & back-room negotiations by all parties took so long. The hearing itself took all of 10 minutes. At about 3:00PM.

Trust me when I say that for this case, there were easily more attorneys present than combined claimants+respondents. That's a LOT of legal fees (at least on the respondents' side). Hope it was worth it, Pat.

Christopher Davis | Homepage | 11.07.07 - 10:43 pm | #

regardless, i would have loved to have been there ...
Melissa Zamora | Homepage | 11.07.07 - 10:46 pm | #

Nonsuit means dropped from the lawsuit - with prejudice means that they cannot be brought back in, unless they breach the terms of the non-suit

Thanks for the comments Chris - I knew something was wrong with the timing - Leal apparently gave the attorneys an opportunity to settle the matter among themselves.

The thing about Texas law is, wait a minute it will change - so while it appears there was some stubborness in the backroom negotiations, and attorneys scratching their heads, the case will go on.

Trust me no case is over until the Texas Supreme Court decides what the law is on the day it reaches them.

They have been labeled the most judicially active court in the United States. They have also been dubbed Nine Nutty Professors for overruling scientific findings which have been upheld in some 40 other states.

So trust me, it is anyone's game. Precedent means nothing in Texas, although the odds are with Vasquez.
Bobby Wightman-Cervantes | 11.08.07 - 12:28 am | #

Thanks, Bobby. I now have a better grasp of the terms.
Melissa Zamora | Homepage | 11.08.07 - 8:21 am | #

Let me just say that the legal volleyball occurring on this post is intriguing to say the least. However, I think that all of you…..Melly, Chris, Bobby and the assorted anonymous smart people are really missing the most important issue about this post.

I think that Chris was wrong when he named dr joe Curly and Cpt Bob Larry. Everyone knows that Larry was the more serious stooge and Curly was the funny kind of goofy stooge. Larry …very much like dr joe took himself very seriously and really believed his poo poo didn’t stink. Curly on the other hand was just plain goofy and just had fun much like our loveable Capt. I think those two names need to be reversed and I think it needs to be done NOW!!!!
thezipper | 11.08.07 - 1:28 pm | #

When I first started reading Zipper's comment, he truly had me. I thought he had something profound to say. Geez. LOL.
Melissa Zamora | Homepage | 11.08.07 - 2:10 pm | #

I thought zipper was going with the fact Curly was always the bald one - am I wrong.
Bobby Wightman-Cervantes | 11.08.07 - 4:21 pm | #

Here is a personality breakdown of the three stooges I found online:

Moe is the active personality, and if not always dominant, always striving to be. Moe is the one who spurs the others into action. He devises plans to better their lot, but when his plans fail the other two suffer the consequences. But is Moe any less the fool for that they follow his plans?
He is a natural manipulator, only partially because the others are waiting to be manipulated. He would want to manipulate them anyway, even if they weren't so willing.

But Larry is a born follower, a blank slate that only reacts (and slowly at that) to exterior stimuli. He never initiates action. He is Moe's absolute tool, the truest 'stooge.' When Moe's abuse finally does make him angry, he lashes out not at Moe, but at Curly. No matter how he suffers under Moe's yoke, he never really rebels. He argues, but gives up easily.
Were it not for the presence of his friends, Larry probably would live in peace -- a dull, flat, mechanical peace. Though clumsy, he is still the most employable of the three -- for the other two are incapable of following orders, although for different reasons. Most people are Larrys. Larrys divide people into those who don't divide others into two types, and those who do. But they do so only because they grew up hearing it.

Curly is the only likeable one, a truly rare human model. He is the holy man, the Divine Fool. He is as creative and active as Moe, but it is a spontaneous and joyous kind of creativity, no good for the kind of plotting and scheming required by a Moe-dominated society. He is a free spirit, but correspondingly unable to function well in a world of Moes and Larrys. He, like Larry, is perpetually abused, but he intuitively understands what is happening to him and reacts far more angrily -- if equally ineffectually. He is everyone's favorite Stooge because he is the funniest; through his inate nobility and natural humility he constantly bests Moe, but it is in an unconscious way, and it is only apparent to the outside observer. Curly himself is hardly aware of his talents; his weakness is that he does not know his own strength, and cannot trust his own luck.
Melissa Zamora | Homepage | 11.08.07 - 5:11 pm | #

Brilliant. You people need real jobs!
Yo Landa | 11.12.07 - 9:41 pm | #

"You people?"

Now, that's brilliant.
Melissa Zamora | Homepage | 11.13.07 - 9:21 am | #

FROM CHINwawa to all except yo LANDA
Trust me no case is over until the Texas Supreme Court decides what the law is on the DAY it reaches them, AND BY GOD all mighty if I know Mayor Ahumada and CAPT BOB IT WILL.

yo LANDA, GET A mi CHELADA and
CHILL baby (WE ALL HAVE REAL JOBS) we do this for chilling.....

NOW to all of US serious bloggers, does anyone knows:
1. the chemicals (spelling)in the MICHELADAS.

2. The correct spelling of Me chelada (my first one in CANCUN MEXICO).

3. Which me CHELADA (SPELLING)is better (Miller's, coor's, or the homemade with Worshire and tabasco sauce)??????
Arge Miller | 11.14.07 - 5:33 am | #