As a Gator, I can only say - what the **** is going on with our rivals? Next thing you know Georgia is going to pull the plug on Uga.
They have to rethink that, UT just wouldn't be the same without Davy.
Davy Crocket is a super villain! He killed bears and Indians and Mexicans -- killed the poor Latinos while trying to steal Mexican land -- and maliciously carved up trees.
Another evil dead white man.
Don't feel alone. My university used to have a Viking as a mascot, called the Rowdy Raider. When a black man came in as university president, the mascot was changed to a wolf (that really looked like a junkyard dog). The Viking was deemed a symbol of violence (??), but the general theory was that he was just too Nordic.
"evil dead white man"
I think "Evil Dead White Men" has been taken by Harvard.
It seems some Native Americans are offended by "Crimson".
As a life-long Alabama fan (my son is even named Bryant) I've felt pretty confident about our nickname standing up to all these PC challenges to mascots. But now I'm not so sure. Crimson may be out next, and even if the Native Americans don't get us, I'm sure there's an environmental group somewhere that will argue we're despoiling nature by calling ourselves the "Tide."
Bob,
And I thought I was funny.
Don't forget, New Mexico State University officially announced today that Pistol Pete has been disarmed.
And no, that's not a joke. The new logo has Pete with a lasso, not a six-shooter.
At least the WVU Mountaineer is still going strong. Shoots his rifle, wears leather and has a coon-skin cap, and we wouldn't want it any other way.
They should change the name from The University of Tennessee Volunteers to the State Revolutionary Council Collegiate Sports Collective #1, and nickname the team the "Apparatchiks".
I often reflect that when American society does completely destroy itself, at least we can avoid making the same mistakes with version 2.0, but we'll have to start by hanging all the liberals.
I.M.
That seems a little extreme. It would also be a hell a lot of work, and, I'm lazy
I don't get it. The mascot had nothing to do with Davy Crockett. It had everything to do with supplying 10X the number of requested volunteers for the War of 1812 and the Mexican War. Fittingly, the attire worn at games is similar to the attire worn by those "Volunteers" in the 19th Century.
But we can't let facts get in the way of political correctness now, can we?
There's a lot of stupidity out there.
The NCAA launched its initiative against Native American-related names from its HQ in Indianapolis, Indiana.
According to the NCAA, my alma mater's nickname is hostile and abusive when transliterated into English ("Illini") but is OK when transliterated into French ("Illinois").
Bob:
Crimson Tide = Red Tide = Fish killing algae bloom caused by pollution caused by white men. Your name is DOOMED.
Wonder if my team, Michigan will be forced to change its name from "Wolverine" to the name of something like Michigan "Rescued from the PETA Animal Rescue Shelter Bunnies", becasue the Wolverine is known to be a very fierce animal, and having that as a mascot frightens a lot of people, and portrays a negative image!!! Knowing t he kind of folks who live in ANn Arbor,and who work at U-M, I would not be surprised if something t he ridiculous were to be proposed soon.
"Tide" must go, according to those of us who don't want to see our washing powders maligned. We suggest the Alabama Bunny Rabbits.
Disarm the Volunteers? I'm not too particular about those orange T's pasted on half the cars in Memphis but this is a bit much.
I agree, scrap the "Crimson Tide." How 'bout the Bama Jellies?
Go Okra.
The WVU Mountaineer will only stand for a couple of more years before the swarms of refugees from the DC area force him out.
Interestingly enough, the mascot of the University of Massachusetts at Amherst has a firearm:
http://www.umass.edu/umhome/iden.../
athletics.html
Go figure.
Jay G
Congrats on holding off the swarms. They've been trying to neuter (I mean disarm) the Minuteman for years. Im surprised KennedyKerry allowed him to appear on the Massachusetts Quarter.
Hey, don't know why y'all want to keep Mr. Crockett. Y'all know how he felt about ya in 1835:
"Since you have chosen to elect a man with a timber toe to succeed me, you may all go to hell and I will go to Texas."
I went to UMASS. The mascot may still carry a gun but they've done away with the Minuteman mascot name on merchandise. And the Mascot has benn hanging on, barely, since before I was there in the mid-90's. White man with a gun representing the oppression of African-Americans and all that. Yup, you know we're a pam-pered society when the they are reduced to screaming about people dressed up in big foam outfits trying to get people to cheer for their team. Just like the lunch-counter protesters.
This is wrong. Get your facts straight.
UT is keeping their Davy Crockett mascot on the field for every football and basketball game. So they're not dishonoring Crockett or getting away from his gun-toting ways (which a lot of people have also claimed).
It's about selling merchandise.
UT has dropped the Davy Crockett DRAWING as a logo because it wasn't on caps, t-shirts, or anything else ANYWAY. They also dropped an old logo that said, "VOLS" with a star in the "s".
They have introduced a couple of new "secondary" logos, as they call them, that feature UT's "official" mascot, Smokey, the blue tick hound.
This just creates a set of logos that can be used on official apparel and merchandise (Power T, Smokey's snarling face, a Smokey in blue for the Lady Vols, and Smokey pups for children's stuff).
So please get your facts straight before posting stuff like this. Oh, wait, it's the internet. Nevermind.
John Pennington
Host
The Sports Source TV Show
Knoxville, TN
A TV sports show host complaining about the internet? Talk about the kettle calling the snowflake black.
I'm curious. Does Davy the mascot carry a rifle and pretend to shoot the opposing mascot? That would be cool.
Mr Pennington, aren't you just a Mr. Fancy Pants, spouting off your facts and figures? Well...I have five words for you, Mister. As My President Charlton Heston used to say, "From My Cold Dead Hands!"
Well, huh.
Bubba, you're the kind of man who spends his time reading backwards books like "Show Me Kings" and smoking pole.
Chew.
John,
What facts did I get wrong??
I said
UT is dropping Davey Crocket and his rifle from official merchandise. As I have no knowledge other than whats in the press release, I said nothing else.
But of course, we wouldn't expect a Radio Talk Show Host to actually read what was written, would we?
Also, you said,
the Davy Crockett DRAWING as a logo because it wasn't on caps, t-shirts, or anything else ANYWAY
Then how come I have a sweatshirt AND A T-Shirt with the logo?
Let me state for the record:
The Syracuse Orange is 100% safe from the PC police now. It's an inoffensive color. It's gender neutral. It makes no references to any kind of ethnic or religious group. It's not a protected class. It references no animals.
Otto lives!!!!
Nice post. We in Oxford feel your pain.
As for JEP's objections, be afraid. If I had a nickel for every time an Ole Miss honcho told us "this far and no farther" with regard to the stripping of our symbols...well, I'd have a lot of nickels.
I'll spare you the whole story, but the bottom line is this is how it begins. "No, no, we're not taking away your mascot. We're just not putting him on T-shirts anymore. Everything'll be fine, you'll see!"
The Notre Dame Fighting Irish may find your Syracuse Orange highly offensive.
Brian,
My sister in law is an Ole Miss Rebel (and my son's favorite pajamas are a pair with Col. Rebel on them).
I feel your pain.
My friend - how old ARE you? You can remember when the UT campus wasn't dry?!!
Please tell me about those days... Was there a bar in the student center? Could you drink in the stadium without risk of pat-down or eviction?
The University of Arizona's mascot, Wilber Wildcat, used to pack a pair of 6-shooters. He was disarmed by the PC crowd a few years ago.
You have our sympathies, Vols.
VA - It went dry in the early 90s or late 80s. It may have actually been dry before then, but they banned booze in the Frats and in the dorms (not that I paid attention to the rules). I think someone had died in a hazing incident.
I never had a problem taking a flask into a game - even now. Its all about concealment.
Don't remember a bar in the Student Center though my father in law says the bowling alley used to be a rifle range.
And, btw, that tells you when I was there.
It could be that the article was changed since you first linked it but it says they added the new logo. It doesn't mention anything about taking other logos away. If they do get rid of it, you could start a nice side business selling the banned mascot paraphernalia.
Clark,
The article states:
"it will replace two old symbols featuring Davy Crockett and his rifle and a star with the word Vols."
My bad... didn't mean to be crude. Or ugly.
And the insult was an inside joke to the fella who zipped me to this story in the first place. He responded to my post as "Bubba" with a zinger. Then I zinged him back about HIS book "Show Me Kings." Nothing was aimed at the author of this blog.
To be honest, I didn't know anything about this site other than the fact this story came out months ago, was misinterpreted by lots of fans, then died away when the truth came out (UT felt they could sell more merchandise if they had a limited number of official "secondary logos).
UT Athletic Director Mike Hamilton told me that the Davy logo wasn't appearing on recent merchandise anyway. So, if you've got some stuff with it on there, I would guess it's old.
At any rate, my initial response is accurate. This wasn't a gun issue, since Davy will still be toting his rifle on the sidelines.
Sorry my follow-up to a friend was taken incorrectly. Lesson learned.
JEP
Well any school with the mascot "Fighting Irish" is not allowed to be offended by any nickname short of "Drunken Fools" 
Drunken Fools. Now that's a team name I can get on board with. The mascot and logo possiblities are endless.
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