Aiding and abeting the enemy is a federal crime punishable by death. Is there any proof? I would love to put an end to this.
Also, Code Pink's top members are communists who revere Castro, Saddam, and Stalin. There oughta be a law! Oh, wait. There is!
Great job. Thank you for going over there. Next time, would you take a sign for me? Just add something like, "Rosemary W. says..." 
Tom, a heartfelt THANK YOU!!!
Good you were there defending our cause. The Gun Nutt has photos too.
Man, I find it impossible to believe they donated 600,000 US$ for medical aid to Fallujah terrs??? Is that REALLY true???? You aren't talking about help to Fallujah citizens are you?
I did have a great time, I must say. I can't say that I'll go every Friday but will try to make more of them. We can't let the troops only see Code Pink whackos as they enter and leave the base. My own small part in the effort, and it felt good.
As for the $600,000, it is true that Code Pink claims that the money is for humanitarian purposes. You can read their own story on it on their blog here
You can find the original story, by Agence France Press and published in the TurkishPress too.
The quote in the story comes from David Horowiz' excellent database on left-wing groups.
The donation itself was a combination of cash and humanitarian supplies. The exact breakdown is not known.
But even so, let's examine this for a minute.
One, exactly who did they give the supplies and money to? Like all good lefties, the Code Pink people are no doubt easily deceived by terrorists acting like "normal Iraqis." And even if some "normal Iraqis" were on the receiving end of the aid, when the terrorist insurgents came round, who walked off with the aid and money? duh...
Two, while the Code Pink people are naive enough to believe that the cash was in turn spent on more humanitarian items, I am under no such illusion. They no doubt used the money to buy weapons to shoot at us and our allies, including good Iraqis.
Third, the morality is no better even if we accept Code Pink's actions at face value. What they did is no different than if a "peace group" went to Germany or Japan during World War II and gave cash and aid to them. Such action strengthens our enemies. This is neither good nor right.
Cool. Yes, I say go for it - every chance you can.
Have you guys seen the story about what the Italian Red Cross actually did to obtain the releas of those two Italian aid workers held hostage in Iraq?
--Italy's Red Cross treated four Iraqi insurgents with the knowledge of the Italian government last year and hid them from US forces in exchange for the freedom of two kidnapped aid workers, a top Italian Red Cross official said in an interview published yesterday.--
Thx Tom. 'lo Jamie. Hang in there, it seems you will get a rough time again? (with Katrina sweeping in the neighborhood?)
Off-topic, but I thought this Christopher Hitchens columns is quite good.
Isn't he a former lefty?
Hitch is still a leftie. Ask him about social issues or government regulation, and you'll get a hard-core leftist answer. But he's one of those liberals who is pro-WOT. He used to write for The Nation magazine, but his stance on the WOT, and disgust as his leftist friends appeasement, caused him to leave.
Tom
Thanks for helping neutralize the Pink stink!
Michael-That was a great column you linked. I have a love/hate relationship with Hitchen's work. He carries a lot of animosity for Christianity in general.
Tom, thx.
He carries a lot of animosity for Christianity in general.
I know the breed Larry. The World Youth Days in Koeln, Germany with Pope Benedict XVI were a success. Leftist columnists are puzzled - and, NOT HAPPY - that a considerable part of youth is interested again in Christianity. Hah!
Jamie??? You out there? Just saw a map on CNN and it appears the only part of Alabama untouched is a small area in the northeast. Dammit, hope you're okay. Howya doing?
We are all hanging in here. Fortunately (for us up here in North-Central Ala, that is) Kitty has so far kept herself in Mississippi and is busy torturing the poor folks over there. Most we've had here is 35 mph wind gusts, lots of rain and occaisional tornados (mini-hurricanes). What fun. And, of course, the worst is yet to come! Hopefully we'll keep power tonight, but if everything goes as it usually does - we won't have power in a few hours.
Have you guys seen what's going on with the U.N.? Bolton is doing exactly what Bush sent him to the U.N. to do - telling them "NO" (in many different languages)! Besides the proposal to "call for rich nations to increase development assistance and all references that donor countries spend 0.7 percent of GNP on development aid", they are also proposing "a solidarity contribution on plane tickets to finance development projects" (a global tax on airline travel)! You won't read about that last part anywhere - but it is one of the amendments being proposed. Read about it:here
The UN always has some scheme or another up it's collective sleeve, and all designed to screw us.
Look , I know you guys love to focus on the real extreme, idiotic left wing, that way it is easier to discredit 'liberal' political views. This "Code Pink" group really doesn't represent a larger portion of the American "left Wing", just as loony Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell, who think Sept 9/11 was "God's punishment" to us for letting gays run lose, no prayer in the schools, feminists, etc. Focusing on these fringe extremists, whether they are on the left (Code Pink) or the right Pat Robertson detracts from the real issues. Why don't you make some credible arguments against Paul Rieckhoff from http://www.optruth.org/.
Now this is a more balanced, representative view of the "left" you all seem to hate so much. I can spend hours ranting about how crazy David Duke, Pat Robertson, etc. are, but the reality is they really don't do a good job of representing real conservative thinking, just as Code Pink is a small, minority that really represents a small faction of us "Evil Liberals.
Although you want us to dismiss Sheehan and Code Pink as a "small minority", the liberal money machine seems to think they represent the majority of liberals. The people who are actively funding Cindy Sheehan and Code Pink are the like of George Soros/MoveOn.org, Ben Cohen (Ben and Jerry Ice Cream), etc, and other big money liberals.
And don't forget, it wasn't so very long ago that Dick Durbin (a Democrat)held a conference call with some of the most far-left liberal bloggers around (Kos, Buzzflash, etc). He wanted to get their support and opinion. He seems to take them seriously. Wonder what he would think of your "balanced, representative view"? Could it be that Democrats think that the more balanced view is the one that is in the minority?
BTW, Tom, Code Pink is now claiming that "infiltrators" were responsible for bringing some of the more inflammatory signs displayed during their "vigil" -read about it here.
==The anti-war group Code Pink, slammed by conservatives and some wounded veterans for co-sponsoring recent protests in front of the Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington, D.C., now suggests that the most inflammatory signs held up at the protests might have been the work of "infiltrators whose aim [was] to disrupt the vigil."==
Hey Trolljason
We'll argue what we please on this site.
I've gone over the arguments regarding Iraq so many times on my personal blog my fingers are numb. Go there and read them yourself if you want. I'm not going to repeat what I've written a dozen times everytime someone like you shows up.
As for the left, Jamie has it exactly right.
If you don't like us making fun of groups like Code Pink, then I would advise you liberls to stop hanging out with them. The Democrats allowed themselves to be defined by the whackos at Moveon.org (who didn't even want us to go into Afghanistan after 9/11) during the last election cycle. Durban, Reid, Hilary, et al show up at moveon.org rallies, which means that they're still in sympathy with them.
And need I remind you that Michael Moore was present at the Democrat National Convention in 2004, and was invited by Jimmy Carter to sit in his box with him?
Not to mention Howard Dean, who I hope you guys make Chairman for Life of the DNC.
If you don't like us making fun of groups like Code Pink, then I would advise you liberls to stop hanging out with them.
-"Stop hanging out with them?"
- You 'liberls'??
Sorry, dude, I don't 'hang out' with Code Pink, I just disagree with your opinion. In fact I often disagree with you, though I do tend to agree much more with your recent house guest, Chris Missick. Now his blog is interesting, otherwise, I really don't want to spend time "trolling" your fancy blog, talking about Iraq; it's a mute point, we are there, that's all there is to it and we have to finish 'the job' there. So I don't feel like reading your stuff. Sorry.
Jason, I'm a rightwing madman myself and as such I DO realize that my view is to some extent "coloured", me having grown up in a family of small business owners with conservative ethics.
That said, Jamie and Tom have a point. From o'er here across the Atlantic, it DOES look as if the whole American "Left", the Dems, whatever you name it, is in the grip of loons. Dammit, your Dem Party Chairman Mad How is a lunatic, calling rightys, christians et al "evil people".
I KNOW htat out there there are liberals who understand the stakes and truly want the US military to finish the job, to the benefit of the populations there and our benefit in the long term. But alas, I have the impression that exactly THESE Dems are the fringe group, and that it's rather groups like Code Pink which represent mainstream US leftism. I'm sorry.
Well put Michael. I think it would be great to put Pat Robertson and Howard Dean in a room, and they could rant themselves silly. Jeff Gannon and Michael Moore could cover the event, and idiot protestors of all stripes could spend hours outside picketing for gay-animal rights, equal rights for unborn cow fetuses, and creating national unemployed basket weaver day along with a whole other host of irrelevant issues. Awesome.
I think it would be great to put Pat Robertson and Howard Dean in a room...
Yeah, I agree. Listen, I am of the opinion that there will always be room for Healthy Leftism. I think that in the past the interaction of both the American "right" and the Maerican "left" has made the country the mightiest nation on earth. In my own Europe, I recognize the great merits of, yes, socialism, in bringing about equal voting rights for workers and women, for example. Likewise, their just struggle for improving working conditions in the industry. That's a historical accomplishment that will forever remain the credit of the Left.
But somehow, in the late sixties, all over the planet so it seems, the Left derailed. Don't want to offend you, but so it is. O'er here they protested American involvement in Vietnam, but when Warsaw Pact tanks crushed the so-called "Spring of Prague", there was deafening silence.
Oh well. I could go on.
Yes Michael, I agree. It's the 'checks and balances' we have that make us so strong. You cite some of the core benefits achieved by left wingers, and I would say that rightwingers tend to keep excessive taxation and spending to a balanced minimuim, which everyone beneifts from. Without these checks, lefties (such as myself) would probably end up creating some dismal place where excessive taxation funds way to many social programs. While I would support the goals of these programs, it would be fiscally irresponsible.
It is good to have an opposition, regardless of your political leaning. Otherwise, leaders are prone to despotic behavior. An interesting current dynamic is seen in the US and the UK. Here, the left plays the traditional anit-war role in opposing the war in Iraq. In the UK, since Labor is on power, the conservatives, as the opposition party, now seem to akwardly carry the anti-war flag:
http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORL...reut/
index.html
I'm not sure if this guy will end up leading the conservative opposition, but the last guy didn't have much of a chance against Blair.
Unfortunately, these days the political debate has been reduced to simple name calling by the likes of Michael Moore, Air America, Rush, and Hannity. Each side is so sure that they are right and the other side is stupid you would think they live on different planets. It is this focus on hating political opponents more than hating our real enemies (Al Queda, OBL, etc), that lead kooks like Pat Roberston to say we should nuke the State Department:
http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/10/09...obertson.state/
Would nuking our own citizens in the State Department and Condi Rice really make us more secure? This is idiotic. What would Jesus do Pat? Would he really want to nuke Condi?
And idiot lefties who say Bush is a worse terrorist than OBL. I think it is unfortunate that some in this country hate their political opponents worse than real enemies. We need more rational people, like yourself, who understand that debate, disagreement, and the like make us stronger, not weaker.
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