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Greg | 01.11.07 - 8:53 pm | #

It's a good thing Feingold decided not to run for President. He can say and threaten things a candidate couldn't. Threatening to pull funding! That takes balls. A president can declare war and be the decider, but the price of it is decided by those who have the power.
Greg | 01.11.07 - 8:56 pm | #

why were the comments closed? o _ o

it's good to see senators actually speaking out, even if they're not actually going to do anything : o
tray | 01.11.07 - 8:57 pm | #

tray, HaloScan has a little gremlin. I don't know why the comments were closed, it wasn't set that way. I fixed it as soon as I saw it.
Nicole Belle | Homepage | 01.11.07 - 8:58 pm | #

Why does Condi have to take it all. Why can't the senators have their turn on George W.? Why can't George defend himself and his own policies.
Common | 01.11.07 - 8:58 pm | #

I found Dick Durbin's speech just as chilling as Dubya's.

America, you have lost whatever vestige of righteousness you may have had.

Disgusting.
Justaguy | Homepage | 01.11.07 - 8:59 pm | #

Justaguy | Homepage | 01.11.07 - 8:59 pm |

As soon as you get rid of John Howard, get back to us and let us know what you think.
Snowball | Homepage | 01.11.07 - 9:01 pm | #

Thanks Nicole, was just curious
tray | 01.11.07 - 9:03 pm | #

Why does Condi have to take it all. Why can't the senators have their turn on George W.? Why can't George defend himself and his own policies.
Common | 01.11.07 - 8:58 pm | #

If anything it's better that Condi was the punching-clown. If it was Dubya I'm sure their comments would have been more restrained, since it seems both parties have gotten into the habit of ball-licking (conforming is patriotic and a treasured American value!). This could lead to a possible "escalation" as various senators "augment" their position on presidential support.

Sorry for the double post, it didn't put my full one up o.-
tray | 01.11.07 - 9:05 pm | #

As soon as you get rid of John Howard, get back to us and let us know what you think.
Snowball | Homepage | 01.11.07 - 9:01 pm | #

a) The logic of your statement is the sort of UScentric arrogance that tars all Americans good or bad. Would you care to explain why you made the statement?

b) I don't live in Oz therefore I don't get to vote. I do register a protest though, by no longer supplying my services to any Australian govt agency.
Justaguy | Homepage | 01.11.07 - 9:07 pm | #

WOW! KO sure ripped George a new asshole tonight.
Jerry | 01.11.07 - 9:07 pm | #

Nice to see Condi turned into a condiment...
S.O.S. from MA | Homepage | 01.11.07 - 9:09 pm | #

Augmentation, yea that's a good one.

Conarteesta was going to use "fogmentation", but was told even Fox News viewers would catch on to that one.
TIKI AL | 01.11.07 - 9:10 pm | #

If KeithO did his usual great job, I confidently expect it to show up hereabouts soonish...
S.O.S. from MA | Homepage | 01.11.07 - 9:10 pm | #

She deserves that and more. Rumors are flying that her head will be the next on the chopping block.
factoryqueen | 01.11.07 - 9:12 pm | #

Justaguy | Homepage | 01.11.07 - 9:07 pm |

If you're still a citizen of the down under, I'm sure if you bothered you could vote. As it is, you just take pot shots at any American you can without taking any responsibility for your own. For the record, most of us here at C&L would sure like our Democratic politicians to come out with guns a blazing, but then again, our Corporate Media suffers from the same affliction as yours: Rupert Murdock. If they aren't somewhat cautious, the Corporate Media will publicly flog them.
Snowball | Homepage | 01.11.07 - 9:14 pm | #

Illegal war ineptly executed... hey, now there's a new buzz word....

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AConfederacyofDunces | 01.11.07 - 9:14 pm | #

First strike on Iran:

http://www.truthdig.com/eartothe...off_with_kurds/

The Kurds are pissed.
getalife | 01.11.07 - 9:16 pm | #

Justaguy - hey, if you can't get your own house in order, don't expect anyone else to give you a pass.

Your comments actually show your "non-US" arrogance, not the opposite. Dude, plenty of folks on this site are critical of current official US policy; you are just showing your arrogance/ignorance. It's easy to criticize someone else rather than yourself; here we at least debate our own shortcomings.

My advice? Invest in a mirror.
Matt in Texas | 01.11.07 - 9:17 pm | #

Rice is a joke, she should stick to playing her piano. Just another example of a fool surrounding himself with people who can talk a good game, but don't bring the goods.

Thanks for that video.
some dude named steevo | 01.11.07 - 9:17 pm | #

My advice? Invest in a mirror.
Matt in Texas | 01.11.07 - 9:17 pm |
Snowball | Homepage | 01.11.07 - 9:17 pm | #

This is what will happen. The Decider will go around the Congress for funding useing dark sources and stolen oil revenue. This is a run out the clock strategy to get into late 2007 and then claim that a "new" review is going to take place. Little Georgie will then claim that in an election year with a new President coming in it would be wrong to make major changes in a highly political environment and also the new Decider might want to do other things. So Junior will slip off into history to await Fox News and the neocons rewriting history.
chuck | 01.11.07 - 9:20 pm | #

See? All it took was opening your mouth and voila!, criticism is delivered. For years senators behaved as if they were going to get killed or something if they even dared - not actually question, but dared - to even voice their doubts.

This is the way government is supposed to act.
happy5 | Homepage | 01.11.07 - 9:22 pm | #

Classic Rice:

http://www.onlisareinsradar.com/...ives/ 002109.php
ezpz | 01.11.07 - 9:22 pm | #

Bush is gonna do -- is doing -- his best to draw us into a wider Middle East war directed at Iran.

...
AConfederacyofDunces | 01.11.07 - 9:22 pm | #

Funny to watch this assclown Condi defend her president's new "augmentation" policy when 3 months ago before the election she was defending the war saying things weren't all that bad and it was the media making it look bad. Now it's so bad we need 20,000 more targets...er, troops...over there.
THIS IS AN INTELLIGENCE TEST PEOPLE!
a guy | 01.11.07 - 9:24 pm | #

What's most worrisome is that while Condi is being set up as the latest fall guy (gal?) John Negroponte is now her deputy, waiting in the wings unitl she is sent packing.

Negroponte is the bastard that funded the Contras and is a well-known neocon operative. Fuck this guy; he should be on trial for war crimes.
Matt in Texas | 01.11.07 - 9:25 pm | #

If they aren't somewhat cautious, the Corporate Media will publicly flog them.
Snowball | Homepage | 01.11.07 - 9:14 pm |
I'd like to amend that statement, they're going to flog them anyway. Get your groove on Demos!
Snowball | Homepage | 01.11.07 - 9:25 pm | #

Why don't we let the purple fingered Iraqis have a vote on whether or not they would like us to stay...
m | 01.11.07 - 9:28 pm | #

nowhere do I see the issue of the illegality of the whole Iraq invasion and occupation being discussed...
and I have been searching around on various boards...
Condi and her cadre of criminally insane cohorts needs to be reminded that they are all dancing on the edge of a bonfire...and they will be thrown in at such time as the world court gets its balls back in place...
John Howard?...Blair?...let's face it...they are merely dressing...the bird is the U.S....and the bird is about overdone...
Dan | 01.11.07 - 9:29 pm | #

if the chimp in chief has lost the repubs in the senate, then he is doomed

so when does the echo machine start swift boating hagle and voinivich

put impeachment back on the table...if the chimp supercedes the will of the congress, we can get a conviction

and as for condi....go buy more shoes you stupid slag
Uncle Joe McCarthy | 01.11.07 - 9:30 pm | #

hey, good on ya, nicole, for getting ink on dead trees media! it's a sign of how things are moving forward that the latimes (a once proud journalistic organ newly reconstructed into a conservative rag) would deign to quote a liberal blogger.

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skippy | Homepage | 01.11.07 - 9:30 pm | #

I like that,m, let's leave it up to the purple finger of fate.
TIKI AL | 01.11.07 - 9:31 pm | #

I'm wondering if the intelligence committee is going to finish it's work on the pre-war intelligence. It's kind of too bad that Sen. Rockefeller is such an inarticulate doofus but maybe, just maybe, he'll get to the bottom of the lies that led to the war. Please!?
Snowball | Homepage | 01.11.07 - 9:32 pm | #

TIKI AL | 01.11.07 - 9:31 pm |

So obvious, isn't it? Good point!

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AConfederacyofDunces | 01.11.07 - 9:33 pm | #

OK, Tiki Al, I think you're showing your age; wasn't there something called "the fickle finger of fate" (or something like that) on Rowan and Martin's Laugh-in?

(Shit, I'm showing MY age!)
Matt in Texas | 01.11.07 - 9:38 pm | #

Olberman talked about this subject tonight in a special comment...

he was spot on... as usual...

think impeachment...

one article will do...

Jose Padilla comes to mind...
Peter Hollman | 01.11.07 - 9:39 pm | #

There was nothing new with C. Rice and her sleazy attitude - what really amazed me was the reporter calling the escalation for waht it was and not falling for "surge" or "augmentation" or whatever the government decides to call it...

Are we witnessing MSM waking up?
gladnottobeamerican | 01.11.07 - 9:39 pm | #

TIKI AL | 01.11.07 - 9:31 pm |

I think that's the flying purple finger of fate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d...h? v=duQZeRiDMbc
Snowball | Homepage | 01.11.07 - 9:40 pm | #

Voinovich lost Ohio because he was a Bush loyalist. Now he's pissed, and with good reason; by sticking by Bush, he flushed himself down the toilet. No wonder he got choked up today.
donnah | 01.11.07 - 9:40 pm | #

Yea Matt, I didn't get these gray hairs out of a bottle.

...Fred and Fanny Frump from Phoenix.
TIKI AL | 01.11.07 - 9:40 pm | #

"thoughtful Republicans"???

Both of them?
Jeff | 01.11.07 - 9:43 pm | #

Augmentation. (rim shot) Thank you, Dr. Freud. Whoa. But anyway -- The Issue: Bush. The Question: 9-11? Hat tip to Matt for the coming fall of Condi.
Just Anonymous | 01.11.07 - 9:44 pm | #

Snowball,

Why can't you just say "Yes, America HAS lost whatever vestige of righteousness we may have had, but I'm doing my damnedest to change that."

Your attack-the-messenger approach does you no favours.
an un-American | 01.11.07 - 9:45 pm | #

To hell with these assholes.
Finally politicians are growing spines.
waterboarding for Jesus | 01.11.07 - 9:46 pm | #

an un-American | 01.11.07 - 9:45 pm |

Basically, I am. But justaguy isn't helping one bit.
Snowball | Homepage | 01.11.07 - 9:48 pm | #

So know it's a war on vocabulary? Is nothing sacred?
Jeanne | 01.11.07 - 9:50 pm | #

Condi looks like she hasn't slept since 2002...
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin | 01.11.07 - 9:50 pm | #

Jeez, what's with the expression on rice's mug?

Part contempt, part boredom, part just plain fugly.
mongo | Homepage | 01.11.07 - 9:51 pm | #

mmmm....grilled escalation with Rice.

Ahhh.....
Truthseeker | 01.11.07 - 9:52 pm | #

"thoughtful Republicans"???
Jeff | 01.11.07 - 9:43 pm

Oxymoron
a guy | 01.11.07 - 9:54 pm | #

So Condi took a couple of hits of ESCALATION, it's common thang among clubbers, give the sista a break.
KAHONEEZ | 01.11.07 - 9:54 pm | #

Stir fried Rice with chicken hawks.
Snowball | Homepage | 01.11.07 - 9:54 pm | #

The Democrats gave the Republicans their balls back.

Beautiful.
Mark Richards | 01.11.07 - 9:58 pm | #

Wolfowitz said: WMD was a matter of emphasis. Meaning they were taking us to war and they just needed to buy time and BS us.

So is escalation equal attack on Syria and Iran?

TPM
Anonymous | 01.11.07 - 9:58 pm | #

This is what will happen....
chuck | 01.11.07 - 9:20 pm | #

Well put. I REALLY hope you're wrong. But I doubt it.
sambolini | 01.11.07 - 10:00 pm | #

Practice to Deceive

Chaos in the Middle East is not the Bush hawks' nightmare scenario--it's their plan.
Anonymous | 01.11.07 - 10:01 pm | #

I can't help but wonder how many of these newly skeptical Republican Senators will finish their terms in 2008.

Most of the GOPers who didn't have to run for office last year know how very lucky they were to avoid likely defeat.

They are rediscovering their spines because they will get their asses kicked if the escalation turns out to be a dud before the '08 election.
Annoyed Canuck | 01.11.07 - 10:01 pm | #

Hang that bitch...
Thank God I am an atheist | 01.11.07 - 10:05 pm | #

Dubya was right, he is a uniter. He is uniting both parties against him.
Molnardian | 01.11.07 - 10:09 pm | #

Hah!

One Mommie gone.

And another one on the chopping block.

Never has their been such a collection of idiots assembled on one spot as Bush has done in putting his 'security team' together...

'Security'?

Bwaaaaaaaahhhhhhhaaaahhhhaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaa aaaaaahhhhhhhhhh!

These people must have help wiping their asses after they offload another 'conservative'.

Rice is the dumbest twat to ever be in the cabinet. Maybe the dumbest person; although I don't know enough history to say that with any conviction.

This is the supremely stupid bitch who tossed the warning about OBL attacking in the U.S. into the trash can. And along with it the lives that were lost on 9/11.

See...

I can wave the bloody shirt just as well as any brain-dead ReThug.

Thing is my words are rooted in fact.

Rice is living in a dream world were she is alway complemented on being so 'accomplished' and 'talented' and 'bright'.

None of which, in actual fact, she is.
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A.Citizen | Homepage | 01.11.07 - 10:10 pm | #

Justaguy - if you're still around, befofe you go throwing stones...

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/ Sat...d=1167467715886

"Australia supports US isolation of Syria, Iran"
ezpz | 01.11.07 - 10:10 pm | #

There once was a woman who shopped for a shoe,
Her facial expressions resemble dog poo.
She's stripped our freedoms and ruined our nation.
She's after more blood with her "augmentation".
TIKI AL | 01.11.07 - 10:20 pm | #

I keep hearing about the war on terrorism and Iran financing that war. Take a look at this article.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7119752/

Halliburton operates in Iran despite sanctions
How do U.S. contractors legally do business there?
MARCH 7, 2005

Why should Americans even care if U.S. companies circumvent the sanctions?

"The purpose of these sanctions is to dissuade Iran from supporting terrorism and from seeking to acquire weapons of mass destruction," says Comras.

There's a move in Congress to close the loophole.

"We don't want American companies propping up a government that's dedicated to our destruction," says Sen. Collins.

Halliburton says it is unfairly targeted because of politics, but recently announced it is pulling out of Iran because the business environment "is not conducive to our overall strategies and objectives."

However, that exit will be slow. Halliburton announced it was leaving Iran only three weeks after Iran announced the lucrative new gas deal, which industry sources say will take three years to complete.

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Ok, lets do the math. March 2005 to March 2006...that's one year. March 2006 to March 2007...that's 2 years...they have one year left on that deal....hmmmm. Ok so lets see...Cheney is itch'n to get into Iran because Iran is the enemy and his "company" is still doing a deal in Iran.
Jeanne | 01.11.07 - 10:21 pm | #

ezpz | 01.11.07 - 10:10 pm | #

He can say whatever he wants, if it's true.

The lack of Americans' "throwing stones" is a big part of the reason your in this mess.
an un-American | 01.11.07 - 10:21 pm | #

I mean "you're"
an un-American | 01.11.07 - 10:22 pm | #

??????????????????????????????????????
"Best leave the presidents words as the presidents words"
??????????????????????????????????????

What kind of &$#&^$@# ANSWER is that?

His words have gotten us into NOTHING but TROUBLE!
His words have been nearly ALL, NOTHING but LIES!

Enough of this "leave" it shit!

Were in a ILLEGAL WAR.
Where in debt up to our granchildrens eyeballs.
We have severe problems with illegals ruining our economies, jobs, schools, rise in crimes, drugs, medical system, etc.

ENOUGH ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I AM GETTING TOTALLY FED UP WITH THEIR "WORD" PLAYING BS!
Anonymous | 01.11.07 - 10:24 pm | #

The lack of Americans' "throwing stones" is a big part of the reason your in this mess.
an un-American | 01.11.07 - 10:21 pm |

And what are you, Canadian? If so, nice job you guys did on Aristide in Haiti. Didn't hear much protest against your government about that.
Snowball | Homepage | 01.11.07 - 10:27 pm | #

for the record, the military always calculates casualty flows etc phase lines of progress when engaging in an operation.

For the honorable Ms Rice to say the military may not produce a projection on casualties is......a........LIE.
duncanidho | 01.11.07 - 10:32 pm | #

OK .

A previous post says Condi's head may be the next to roll.

This may happen .

By the way . When is the last time you heard anything about Mr. Rove??
SCHRODINGER'S CAT | 01.11.07 - 10:32 pm | #

BTW, we're doing the best we can here. Start taking responsibility for what happens in your own countries before you throw stones at our Liberal politicians. If you're a Brit, why is Tony Blair still in power?
Snowball | Homepage | 01.11.07 - 10:33 pm | #

Condi's snotty schoolmarm act isn't working anymore. She's a colossal fuckup as Secretary of State, and even the GOP lapdogs who have given her a pass up till now are tired of her shit. They are not in the mood to be lectured, bullshitted, or talked down to. Everythings falling apart for Bushco. Hey! Where's Cheney???
gene214 | 01.11.07 - 10:35 pm | #

The lack of Americans' "throwing stones" is a big part of the reason your in this mess.
an un-American | 01.11.07 - 10:21 pm | #

No, this "mess" that the WORLD is in is compliments of bush and the help of his "coalition of the willing" (aka lapdogs Blair and Howard, to name two). And btw, probably few if any on these boards voted for the maniac.
ezpz | 01.11.07 - 10:36 pm | #

A previous post says Condi's head may be the next to roll.

This may happen .

Things are getting so fucked up, if Condi quits, Chimpy may try to appoint Kissinger as Secretary of State. After today, though, I wouldn't be a bit surprised if Condi's faxing resumes over to Stanford, hoping to get her old job back.
gene214 | 01.11.07 - 10:39 pm | #

I wonder if Condi could say "augmentation" with a straight face if some clever senator shoved her thesaurus up her ass?

Call it a rectal enhancement.
jimbo92107 | 01.11.07 - 10:39 pm | #

Snowball,

New Zealander, actually. (and I'm not too thrilled about our official position).

By your logic (no-one should complain about the war if their country supported it), you have less right to complain about the war than anyone, since your government caused it.

Clearly, this is not the case.

You know that what was said was essentially true; why does it matter who said it?

ps. I'm on your side, bro (and so is justaguy).

There's only one Earth and this fiasco affects us all.
an un-American | 01.11.07 - 10:41 pm | #

The only positive thing that can be said about Condi performance is that no matter how much of a mess the Bush Administration has made or how awful Iraq has become she is really one cool cucumber under fire.

To not lose her composure and stay on message regardless of how screwed up that message is or the insurmountable amount of scrambling it must take to explain away the myriad of mistakes she demonstrated remarkable composure.

As a businessman I find this steadiness in the face of adversity quite admirable.

THIS POST ABOVE STILL DOESN'T EXCUSE THE RAT HOLE BUSH CREATED THAT IS IRAQ.
Frank Zappa | 01.11.07 - 10:41 pm | #

Though I dislike Rice more than I can say, it is Dick Cheney who ruined the State Department. Cheney has always hated the State Department, viewing it as a namby-pamby outfit full of bureaucratic dandies. His hatred of it congealed and turned into a monster during his time as Secretary of Defense. When Cheney wanted guns, saber-rattling and jackboots around the world, the State Department wanted diplomatic negotiations.

Scores of senior State Department officials resigned during the first Bush/Cheney term. They saw that Cheney was out to destroy State and they wouldn't take part in his vision. Cheney created a "Department of Near East Affairs" and installed his daughter Elizabeth as Asst Deputy. The Department of "Near East" Affairs is actually concerned with the Middle East, and involves such things as oil contracts. Big surprise. Elizabeth Cheney acted as her father's eyes and ears at State, reporting back to him and denouncing people whose views differed from Cheney's so Cheney could squash them like bugs.

I have no doubt the ORIGINAL source for the information about Valerie Plame came from Elizabeth Cheney, who ferreted the information out as soon as State Dept employee Joseph Wilson wrote his op ed.

So in Rice's defense, she inherited a demoralized organization whose most experienced members were forced out or resigned rather than be forced out by Dick Cheney. This will all come out in due time.
BTDT | 01.11.07 - 10:41 pm | #

From head cheerleader to scapegoat faster than you can say
Azazel.
Laszlo Panaflex | 01.11.07 - 10:45 pm | #

Frank Zappa | 01.11.07 - 10:41 pm | #

You call that "composure" and "steadiness"?? I call it heartless, soulless, sans conscience. When those are lacking, it's easy to be composed I suppose.
ezpz | 01.11.07 - 10:45 pm | #

ezpz | 01.11.07 - 10:36 pm | #

Ok, perhaps I slightly overcooked it.

What I meant was: If it wasn't for all that "support-the-president" BS that you've heard from all Repubs, and many Dems over the last 3 years, this (easily predictable) chaos might not have been allowed to happen.
an un-American | 01.11.07 - 10:45 pm | #

You call that "composure" and "steadiness"?? I call it heartless, soulless, sans conscience. When those are lacking, it's easy to be composed I suppose.
ezpz | 01.11.07 - 10:45 pm | #

true dat!
an un-American | 01.11.07 - 10:49 pm | #

an un-American | 01.11.07 - 10:45 pm |

Kudos to you, I have nothing but admiration for Kiwis. There are problems with our political system here and many Democratic politicians are corporate ringers, we know that. However, justaguy is a regular here and we know his shtick.
Snowball | Homepage | 01.11.07 - 10:50 pm | #

an un-American | 01.11.07 - 10:45 pm | #

Again, I think you'd be hard pressed to find any of that "support-the-president" sentiment around here. Comments like the ones from "justaguy" are not at all helpful. In fact, they're counterproductive - almost like blaming the NOLA victims for their losses and suffering during Katrina instead of govt negligence (criminal, imo).
ezpz | 01.11.07 - 10:51 pm | #

Common said -
"Why can't George defend himself and his own policies."

Because my Friend, George W. Bush is an IDIOT!!!

He has not the skill nor the intelligence to properly debate in the houses of Parliament.
Besides, and probably more to the point, he HAS to distance himself from this absolute disaster that is Iraq, indeed, the disaster that his whole term as President is.
How else could he be so blind as to what is happening? After an absolute thumping in the election he is still unable to change a thing.

"Stay the course" is about as complicated as it gets in George W. Bush's mind.

If he is forced to answer questions, he is forced to confront his failures.

He is forced to see how the rest of the world sees him, as an incompetent Fool who has done nothing for his country in 6 years of Presidency (except failure after failure). He just might have to realise that he is not a leader and never has been.
He believes he is right in what he is doing because Bush has ALWAYS had people around him laughing at his jokes and agreeing with his every word. (Why do you think he found religion when he stopped drinking? I believe it is so he could remove himself from responsibility. That is after all, the doctrine of AA isn't it?)
He is blaming everyone else for the failure of Iraq and if asked tough questions he would have to realise it is not everyone else at fault, it is HIS FAULT.

Sorry, we were talking about Condi weren't we? Uummm... Yeah, blame her. That's probably what Bush came up with after thinking about Iraq...

...After spending the week at his ranch, and thinking about Iraq for a few minutes over breakfast the President George Bush announced a drastic change in his strategy for Iraq ...Stay the course! and then blame Condi if it isn't all fixed by next week.
Wess | 01.11.07 - 10:54 pm | #

The most inept, ill-qualified, ill-prepared Sec of State of our time.
or as we say in the Bronx:
Lame Beeyatch!
Spideymon | 01.11.07 - 10:58 pm | #

Condoleezza Rice has been way over her head from day 1. She was never qualified to hold either of the jobs she has held. I believe that the Bush Administration was looking for someone like her who would only do as she is told and nothing more. I am not surprised by her disastrous managing/leadership of our government.
mistletoe | 01.11.07 - 10:59 pm | #

I'm under the mistletoe, do I get a KISS?
Stanley Rosenthal | Homepage | 01.11.07 - 11:00 pm | #

Kudos to you, I have nothing but admiration for Kiwis. There are problems with our political system here and many Democratic politicians are corporate ringers, we know that. However, justaguy is a regular here and we know his shtick.
Snowball | Homepage | 01.11.07 - 10:50 pm | #

I have a huge amount of admiration for many Americans, too, (as well as a huge amount of disgust for many other Americans, too).

Without wishing to cause another flare-up, I can't understand why I get Kudos for being Kiwi, but dissed for being "Canadian".

The average Joe Canada has as much influence over his government as you or I do, ie approx. none.

People are people, whether American, Kiwi, Canadian, or Iraqi.

[That almost sounds like a joke, except it's NOT funny].
an un-American | 01.11.07 - 11:00 pm | #

Exit Stage Right through Iran.
SharedHumanity | 01.11.07 - 11:00 pm | #

Can we impeach the Secretary of State? Does anybody know? I say we start impeaching the Bush regime from the bottom up so none of these freaks ever get back into government again.
Snowball | Homepage | 01.11.07 - 11:01 pm | #

Again....What exactly has she accomplished?
mudshark | 01.11.07 - 11:04 pm | #

Who's the babe?
BuelahMan | Homepage | 01.11.07 - 11:05 pm | #

"People are people, whether American, Kiwi, Canadian, or Iraqi...."
an un-American | 01.11.07 - 11:00 pm | #

Amen!

Which is why the best part of the speech were the words he DIDN'T say: "God bless America"
It just goes right through me whenever he says that. Ugh!
Also upsetting is when pundits and politicians from BOTH parties more often than not only mention American casualties. What about the almos one million innocent Iraqi casualties??!!
ezpz | 01.11.07 - 11:05 pm | #

ezpz,

Rumsfeld would have stuttered, stammered, twisted in the wind and unleashed innumerable folksy cliches like 'my goodness' or 'henny penny' or 'you need to break a few eggs to make an omelette'.

Cheney would have wigged out, gave a penguin laugh and shot Hagel in the face, told Obama to 'fuck off' and called Kerry a 'coward' and 'flip flopper' before running out of the room to his undisclosed location bunker.

So yes, Condi was very well composed seeing the turd she had to polish.
Frank Zappa | 01.11.07 - 11:06 pm | #

Again, I think you'd be hard pressed to find any of that "support-the-president" sentiment around here.
ezpz | 01.11.07 - 10:51 pm | #

Yeah, not around here, of course.

I mean the Senate, the House, and the general populace.
an un-American | 01.11.07 - 11:06 pm | #

When the going gets tough, the tough go shoe shopping, eh Condi?
miss_kitty | Homepage | 01.11.07 - 11:06 pm | #

an un-American | 01.11.07 - 11:00 pm |

Alright, peace onto you. It's an international struggle against the World Wide Corporatocracy. Let's face it, corporations are more powerful than whole nation-states. They corrupt the governments of all nations. Forget the conspiracy theories about Masons, the Illuminati and the Jews, it's the corporate interests that are killing us all in the name of profit.
Snowball | Homepage | 01.11.07 - 11:06 pm | #

From the Vietnam movie "A Bright Shining Lie"...

Col. John Paul Vann: "It is not true that we are here to solve problems, sir. WE are the problem."
LanceThruster | 01.11.07 - 11:07 pm | #

Snowball | Homepage | 01.11.07 - 11:06 pm | #

And peace to you!

Isn't it cool how we can go from angry disagreement, to mutual peace-wishing, with just half an hour of talking?

If only it worked like that on a macro-scale.
an un-American | 01.11.07 - 11:10 pm | #

almost - not almos
Peace out...(I can dream, no?)
ezpz | 01.11.07 - 11:11 pm | #

an un-American | 01.11.07 - 11:10 pm |

No problem, I just know where justaguy is coming from, that's why I slammed him. It's the damn corporations! That's my point.
Snowball | Homepage | 01.11.07 - 11:12 pm | #

The other day, my dad said something like, "When I look at her [Condi], I see a person who looks guilty."

Obviously, most of the Bush inner circle doesn't project this as much as Condi. Bush doesn't feel guilt because he's a delusional sociopath who cannot feel the slightest bit of empathy. Cheney is just pure evil and doesn't give a f*ck either way. The rest of them are some combination of Bush's delusion and Cheney's evil. The only other insider whom I think projects at least a little guilt is Gen Pace.
sal | 01.11.07 - 11:13 pm | #

Rice failed because she is nobody, simply a tool. She just does what she is told to say and do. Her knowledge is superficial, there is no depth in it. Worse, she is totally removed from reality, just like her boss and the rest of the gang.
Aris | 01.11.07 - 11:17 pm | #

Friends, it's 25th Amendment time because this goofball has totally lost his marbles.
Toes | 01.11.07 - 11:23 pm | #

BTW, right wing Jews, Christians, Muslims and Hindus, they all suck. They'll be the death of us all.
Snowball | Homepage | 01.11.07 - 11:24 pm | #

At this rate will have Bush impeached in 2010 and possibly have our troops out by 2015.
KucinicH | Homepage | 01.11.07 - 11:26 pm | #

Snowball | Homepage | 01.11.07 - 11:24 pm | #

Agreed. Every group has its nutcase fringe element, and while these radicals are usually a minority, they're the most dangerous. Scary...
ezpz | 01.11.07 - 11:30 pm | #

ezpz | 01.11.07 - 11:30 pm | #

In our case, the nutcase fringe element infiltrates us and pretends to be us.
Stanley Rosenthal | Homepage | 01.11.07 - 11:34 pm | #

No problem [...]
Snowball | Homepage | 01.11.07 - 11:12 pm | #

I wasn't apologising.
an un-American | 01.11.07 - 11:38 pm | #

I wasn't apologising.
an un-American | 01.11.07 - 11:38 pm |

That's OK, I've had one beer too many too.
Snowball | Homepage | 01.11.07 - 11:40 pm | #

If you're still a citizen of the down under, I'm sure if you bothered you could vote.
Snowball | Homepage | 01.11.07 - 9:14 pm | #

A display of ignorance for all to see. Preach on what you know Snowball. You're wrong, outright.

I have every right to comment about world affairs. Your country is killing my fellow human beings for treasure and power and I find Durbin's sentiment disgusting.

I reckon the average Iraqi would find them more so. Do they get a voice in your exclusionist world?
Justaguy | Homepage | 01.11.07 - 11:42 pm | #

My advice? Invest in a mirror.
Matt in Texas | 01.11.07 - 9:17 pm | #

Strawman.
Justaguy | Homepage | 01.11.07 - 11:43 pm | #

mildly sedated if you ask me....but you didn't...and you won't...but if you did...which you might ...then I'd say....mildly sedated
mudshark | 01.11.07 - 11:44 pm | #

Strawman.
Justaguy | Homepage | 01.11.07 - 11:43 pm | #

Ad Hominem, actually, but: yeah.
an un-American | 01.11.07 - 11:45 pm | #

lighten up ok.It's none of our faults and all of our faults....lets just try to make it better...first things first...bushit has got to go...impeach the pinhead.
mudshark | 01.11.07 - 11:47 pm | #

>> Strawman.
> Ad Hominem, actually, ...

It depends on whether the analogy was true or not. If it was untrue, it was a straw man. If it was true, it was an ad hominem.
Stanley Rosenthal | Homepage | 01.11.07 - 11:52 pm | #

can we all just get a bong
mudshark | 01.11.07 - 11:52 pm | #

Put yourself in the soldiers boots:
1) Middle of sectarian violence not really sure who the enemy is
2) IEDs going off even with the help of young children
3) Report after report of how the Iraqi police forces have been infiltrated by various groups
4) Iraqi government officials being killed and their families targeted

Now, are we really supposed to believe that our troops or generals are going to feel comfortable enough to hand over weapons and authority to any Iraqi as long as our troops are over there? Ask any Bush administration just who the enemy is in Iraq right now and they will mention any number of groups. How many of you would be so willing to do so?
moonsha | 01.11.07 - 11:52 pm | #

Augmentation?

That Iraq is a real breast--beast! A real beast.
SombreroFallout | 01.11.07 - 11:53 pm | #

"Australia supports US isolation of Syria, Iran"
ezpz | 01.11.07 - 10:10 pm | #

Your point?

Howard is a lowlife scum but how does that effect my right to criticise the Democratic Party.

I'll say it again, Durbin's speech was disgusting. What part of that don't you agree with?
Justaguy | Homepage | 01.11.07 - 11:54 pm | #

Thier all shooting at each other and thier all shooting at our troops too.....
mudshark | 01.11.07 - 11:54 pm | #

> ... Durbin's speech was disgusting. ...

Not the part of it that I heard (I only heard a clip from it.)

Remind us of what he said that's got you so freaked out please?
Stanley Rosenthal | Homepage | 01.11.07 - 11:56 pm | #

Stanley Rosenthal | Homepage | 01.11.07 - 11:52 pm | #

Disagree. "Invest in a mirror" is not an analogy.
an un-American | 01.11.07 - 11:57 pm | #

Condi deserves every bit of "ball-busting" she can get. She's completely worthless and useless. A sad, pathetic replacement for Colin Powell, who, even though he chucked his integrity out the door when selling the war to the UN, at least was a guy who actually tried to bring order and dipomacy to the Bush Administration.

I can't see why ANYONE thinks Condi is a great SecState, NSA or anything. Or even attractive. She hasn't done a damn thing in ANY position she has held except to do what Dick Cheney or GWB tell her.

Garbage. Complete garbage. She's in over her head, and she would be better off advising the state department as a Russia expert or something.

Maybe even getting another oil tanker named after her.
Benetton Renault | 01.11.07 - 11:58 pm | #

Disagree. "Invest in a mirror" is not an analogy.
an un-American | 01.11.07 - 11:57 pm

You find that disgusting? Agreed it is not an analogy, but you find that disgusting?
moonsha | 01.12.07 - 12:01 am | #

an un-American | 01.11.07 - 11:57 pm | #

Yeah, I get those kind's of descriptions of words confused. But I usually don't get "straw man" and "ad hominem" confused.
Stanley Rosenthal | Homepage | 01.12.07 - 12:01 am | #

We made the mess! Can we walk out? Damn George Bush! Terrible mistake is right!

I love that new one "augmentation." How about surgitude? Or surgification?
Ali | 01.12.07 - 12:04 am | #

Justaguy | Homepage | 01.11.07 - 11:54 pm | #

Durbin did not lead us into the fiasco that is Iraq. In fact,he voted AGAINST invading Iraq in Oct 2002.

Since you're so up on American politics, you probably know that the Democrats have only recently regained power in the House and Senate, and the new session is about a week old.
Anonymous | 01.12.07 - 12:07 am | #

Anonymous | 01.12.07 - 12:07 am | #

Ca c'est moi.
ezpz | 01.12.07 - 12:08 am | #

Why does Condi have to take it all. Why can't the senators have their turn on George W.? Why can't George defend himself and his own policies.
Common | 01.11.07 - 8:58 pm | #

He's a coward. His entire life, Junior has been backed up by daddy's cohorts and runs to the security of the "gang" and hides behind mommy's (or Karen Hughes, or Condi's, or Laura's) skirt.
jwf | 01.12.07 - 12:10 am | #

Stanley Rosenthal | Homepage | 01.11.07 - 11:34 pm | #

Yes, I noticed.
ezpz | 01.12.07 - 12:15 am | #

Since you're so up on American politics, you probably know that the Democrats have only recently regained power in the House and Senate, and the new session is about a week old.
Anonymous | 01.12.07 - 12:07 am | #

Oh FFS!! The speech yesterday was the subject of my comment. Lord love a duck.
Justaguy | Homepage | 01.12.07 - 12:15 am | #

justaguy...I'm not involved in this ...but my curiousity has got me...What part of Durbins speech set you off?
mudshark | 01.12.07 - 12:17 am | #

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Justaguy | Homepage | 01.12.07 - 12:17 am | #

WTF is FFS?
ezpz | 01.12.07 - 12:19 am | #

mudshark | 01.12.07 - 12:17 am | #

He was carrying on about the wonderful things America had done for the Iraqi people and the sacrifices the troops had made for them.

I found it chilling and sickening.
Justaguy | Homepage | 01.12.07 - 12:19 am | #

I can't look at her face. I can't listen to her voice. I can't believe what she says. Funny, i have the same reaction to Bush.
xoites defends Constitution | Homepage | 01.12.07 - 12:20 am | #

Ta
mudshark | 01.12.07 - 12:21 am | #

WTF is FFS?
ezpz | 01.12.07 - 12:19 am | #

Hi EZPZ

I think he means "For Fuck's Sake!"
xoites defends Constitution | Homepage | 01.12.07 - 12:23 am | #

Roget's Thesaurus: augment
augment: noun, The act of increasing or rising: aggrandizement, amplification, augmentation, boost, buildup, enlargement, escalation, growth, hike, increase, jump, multiplication, proliferation, raise, rise, swell, upsurge, upswing, upturn.

Any of these words seem all too familiar?
Steve | 01.12.07 - 12:25 am | #

xoites defends Constitution | Homepage | 01.12.07 - 12:23 am | #

Hi there Xoites

Thanks, I'm not that up on all these acronyms.
ezpz | 01.12.07 - 12:27 am | #

I just sort of figured it out from the context.
xoites defends Constitution | Homepage | 01.12.07 - 12:29 am | #

Condi isn't dumb. She and Dumbya are doing it with each other and it's clouding her judgement. Well, both thier judgements, actually.
Ruthless Dictator | 01.12.07 - 12:31 am | #

From TPM, read about what the reasons are behind the Iran / Iraq War.

"Practice to Deceive"

http:// www.washingtonmonthly.com...4.marshall.html
Anon | 01.12.07 - 12:31 am | #

And I agree with you Xoites. I can't watch her, lister to her, look at her either. That's why I didn't watch the clip.
ezpz | 01.12.07 - 12:32 am | #

She does make one cringe, doesn't she?
xoites defends Constitution | Homepage | 01.12.07 - 12:34 am | #

Yes she does...as does the whole admin.......evening xdC
mudshark | 01.12.07 - 12:36 am | #

She does make one cringe, doesn't she?
xoites defends Constitution | Homepage | 01.12.07 - 12:34 am | #

Did she get those ugly teeth fixed? They don't look quite so gappy.
jwf | 01.12.07 - 12:37 am | #

Did Katherine Harris enlist?
Che's Lounge | Homepage | 01.12.07 - 12:45 am | #

She's tired in every sense of the word.
Mat O | 01.12.07 - 12:53 am | #

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Snowball | Homepage | 01.12.07 - 1:00 am | #

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Sorry Siteowner, but that was a valid point and needed to be said.
Snowball | Homepage | 01.12.07 - 1:12 am | #

I was amazed that Voinvich really took a stand- I do know that his phone lines were jammed all am-I took that as a good sign...how many will step up ?? we will see. Condi looked pathetic- not as smug as usual- at all...thank heavens...
enigma4ever | Homepage | 01.12.07 - 1:34 am | #

ooops, I might have screwed up on the thread- are we talking about Katherine Harris or Condi ?
enigma4ever | Homepage | 01.12.07 - 1:35 am | #

I hope and pray our Congress puts a stop to this mad man and his ego war. Ok...don't call it a loss, if that makes him feel better. But the fact is, we have lost so much in human life and our financial future; and so many "in the know" agree that this is doomed to fail as well. More lose of life and money from our pockets to the coffers of halliburton.

STOP THIS WAR, NOW!!!
Hulk | 01.12.07 - 1:40 am | #

Hear you Hulk..it sucks- and these liars have to be held accountable...we the people have to help make this happen....there is alot of power in emails, phones, letters, and even the ol'feet....have hope..
enigma4ever | Homepage | 01.12.07 - 1:46 am | #

Is it just me or is Condi starting to make a very Rumsfeld-esque "scrunchy-face" when she's spewing her b.s.?
It definitely doesn't help in the flattery dept.
bns | 01.12.07 - 1:48 am | #

> I was amazed that Voinvich really took a stand-

He's done that before, a couple of years ago. Unfortunately I don't recall what subject he took on that stand.
Stanley Rosenthal | Homepage | 01.12.07 - 1:50 am | #

About Condi and the Rummy Rumple face -you are right- but she lacks his throbbing head vein....yuck.

Now about Voinvich- I think he took a stand about illegal spying- in a hearing- it was a short lived moment- sigh...
( I live in a red state- for now- not much longer...thankheavens)
enigma4ever | Homepage | 01.12.07 - 1:54 am | #

You can't believe that GWB, that great arse, is going to give up his voodoo charm, do you?

Rice is part of Gw's solace for the pains of commiting hideous and bestial acts. That qualifies her for voodoo doll status.

Kinda puts Katrina (and Haiti) in a whole different light.

As part of the (S)hitehouse Iraq Group, she's a co-conspirator in high crimes against the US.

• Bush's failure to secure and guard Al QaQaa's high-explosives, when they passed into his control, was an act of unprecedented criminal negligence.

Passing out plastique to Iraqis is a very odd method of 'fighting terrorism.'

Arming our soldier's enemies sounds a lot like treason. If it was an accident, it is still criminal negligence, regardless of the 'goals' of GW's 'foreign policy.'

Criminal negligence can't be covered up by insouciance for long. What's his voodoo doll going to do? Take out her teeth and let them chatter across the table? She might just as well give birth to a live goat in the hearing room.
Paul in LA | 01.12.07 - 1:56 am | #

enigma4ever | Homepage | 01.12.07 - 1:54 am | #

I recall him almost being brought to tears during his speech. And I also recall that whatever the vote was about, it caused the vote to go to the Dems because of his one vote.
Stanley Rosenthal | Homepage | 01.12.07 - 2:05 am | #

Augmentation? Really?

The neo-cons want to give themselves new boob-jobs from their fat-asses?
Dee | 01.12.07 - 2:29 am | #

Stanley Rosenthal

If you're talking about Voinovich it was over the Bolton Nomination.

And he's not the first one to show his queasiness. Check out how "not" outspoken Boehner has been since my state is now in a fighting blue mood. Being the 4th on the state list for most soldiers killed is really taking its toll.
Dee | 01.12.07 - 2:34 am | #

> If you're talking about Voinovich it was over the Bolton Nomination.

ThanX for jogging my memory, Dee! You are correct.
Stanley Rosenthal | Homepage | 01.12.07 - 2:37 am | #

oh Dee thanks- that was bugging me that I could not remember....

augment..what an awful word....I think it is just a plastic surgery word...It is not a military term...right?
enigma4ever | Homepage | 01.12.07 - 2:54 am | #

Why does Topsy continue to fail upwardly? Does anyone even remember that she was the National Security Advisor on 9/11 who had repeatedly ignored warnings of the attack? Her tenure as Secretary of State (a position she has no qualifications for other than her brief tenure as a Chevron token)has been equally disastrous. It's time for her to go.
purvis ames | 01.12.07 - 2:57 am | #

I wonder when the neocons will set fire to the capital, blame it on the Iranians, disband congress and install Bush as der fuhrer?
idiotland | 01.12.07 - 7:23 am | #

She has a PhD? From where? Sally Struthers School of Foreign Policy?
Otto e mezzo | 01.12.07 - 7:30 am | #

This woman is inept and shouldn't be in her cabinet position. Now I will tell you why. Yesterday I heard her say as a rebuttal to a mention of negotiating with Iran.... "Iran just wants to exercise extortion". Of course I paraphrase but you get the jist. Extortion? She is not secretary of state material. Anyone who has ever done international diplomatic negotiations (especially to try to bring about peace treaties) knows that each nation has certain things that they bring to the table. What Rice calls extortion is probably a bargaining chip for another country. If you want to use the word extortion in international negotiations you have ruined the negotiation process before it ever began. If this is the standard then you could easily say at the end of world war two we then extorted peace from Japan. We offered them no more atom bombs and a rebuilding process for a peace treaty. Get real. Does this woman want a negotiating process with Iran or is she shooting it down before it ever gets started. The other problem is her attitude. She really seemed "put off" to have to answer questions in front of congress. If she is so put off just for this, you can imagine how put off she would be to have to negotiate a peace with people she doesn't agree with on much of anything. Resign Rice do us all a favor. Go buy some shoes.
steambomb | 01.12.07 - 8:23 am | #

I hope the Dems stop the Iraq war, the economic Damage to america will be felt for the next 50 years at least.
Well Well Well | 01.12.07 - 8:24 am | #

The neo-cons would like to sanitize the vocabulary of war. Words like escalate and redeploy have clear military connotations and are precise. Words like surge and augment are imprecise in the context for which the White House would like them echoed in the Press. For that reason such terms should not be used in any context to discuss military strategy.
Sulphurdunn | 01.12.07 - 8:41 am | #

Condi is such a polished, willful and easy liar. But then, she is a Straussian acolyte and tjus feels justified. Wouldn't take a whole lot of work to build perjury cases against her.
Paul | 01.12.07 - 8:52 am | #

Isn't it appropriate for Rice to use the term "augmentation"? The term is most commomly used with the inflation of boobs.
flamethrower | 01.12.07 - 9:01 am | #

While appreciate the ass whoopin that Condi got, I don't understand why Bush and Cheney don't get the same treatment. And I don't want to hear this, "he's the president" crap. He's the President, not the king (although he would like to think so) He works for us and is accountable to us. I don't give a damn if his feelings are hurt.
Chris | 01.12.07 - 9:07 am | #

Our favorite BULLDOG senator, Boxer, may have gone "over the top" when she passionately personalized Rice's lack of deep understanding of the loss felt by "families" who have lost loved ones...BUT, the point remains that so many in this administration have felt littler PERSONAL pain over their devious decisions and policies in regard to the INVASION of Iraq!!! Still, Rupert Murdock, FAUX NEWS, and the rightwing blogosphere now has another focus to rant on about to further distract the American people (so easily led astray) from the REAL ISSUES needing their attention. Works every time...Boxer and others must learn to use their words better!!!
Anonymous | 01.12.07 - 9:57 am | #

Smells like fish.

Pass the malted vinegar.
ysbaddaden | 01.12.07 - 10:02 am | #

tray, HaloScan has a little gremlin. I don't know why the comments were closed, it wasn't set that way. I fixed it as soon as I saw it.
Nicole Belle | Homepage | 01.11.07 - 8:58 pm | #

Isn't that Anti-Slavic? As in the Gremlins from the Kremlin?
ysbaddaden | 01.12.07 - 10:04 am | #

Isn't it appropriate for Rice to use the term "augmentation"? The term is most commomly used with the inflation of boobs.
flamethrower | 01.12.07 - 9:01 am | #

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Maybe she's losing busch's attention. Alcohol makes your brain wonder and your penis wander.
ysbaddaden | 01.12.07 - 10:05 am | #

I feel much better now knowing it's just an "augmentation" and not an "escalation" as I had originally feared. Now that I know that, I think Bush's new strategy is just peachy!
bizona | 01.12.07 - 12:43 pm | #

And I thought it was a plum.
ysbaddaden | 01.12.07 - 12:53 pm | #

An augmentation??? What? Like Breasts or something?.. More word games condi?
Yes, I guess it is...
Well, guess what??? It ain't flyin.... And, looks like no more softball questions and free passes for you little Ms. 'I'm a Stanford gal intellectual muckity-muck'.... Something tells me things are only going to get worse from here on for you Ms. Rice... Don't think your little legacy is going to work out any better than your bosses... Maybe you should invest in one of those online gambling courses the next time you're thinking of putting significant chips down on some horse... The one you put your money on this time is not going place or show let alone win anything other than derision and quite possibly some jail time somewhere down the road.......JD
Jack Damage | Homepage | 01.12.07 - 1:02 pm | #

So Condy got drilled

.....by who?
Wanger | 01.12.07 - 1:08 pm | #

When she got angry about being interrupted and stuff her usual PhD professorial mask of a face morphed into the devil. She is scary. Sometimes I think she's the scariest one of them.
keiran | 01.12.07 - 2:48 pm | #

I love Keith O. and all, but I wish his commentaries weren't so long and spoken with such a high level of vitriol. He's beginning to sound like a scold, and nobody likes a scold. Edward R. Murrow spoke fighting words, but he was still calm, cool and collected.

Also drop the "..., Sir,...". Bush should not be granted that much dignity.
Augmented4th | 01.12.07 - 2:54 pm | #

I don't think Chimp and Condi are doing it. I sincerely believe he's gay.
keiran | 01.12.07 - 2:57 pm | #

The New York Post has an editorial screaming bloody murder about Sen. Barbara Boxer's supposed "slur" against Condi Rice.

Here's the editorial --

And here's the Letter To the Editor I wrote in response (though fat lot of good it will do):

Dear NY Post,

I find it refreshing that you would focus so much attention on the perceived slur or insult that Sen. Barbara Boxer supposedly leveled against Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice.

Certainly, it is important that we not allow slurs, insults, hatemongering and smear to be the language of politics.

Unfortunately, the Republican Party, and the New York Post, have both used insult, smear and slurs constantly in their political games. The New York Post alone probably calls Sen. Hillary Clinton a nasty name once or twice per issue! I suppose that's in bounds?

Why is it that Republicans, who made "swiftboating" a household word, who make jokes about how Chelsea Clinton was "the White House dog" and all the Botox that Nancy Pelosi has had injected, have such thin skins when it comes to someone making fun of them? Why is it only a terrible crime against humanity when the victim has an "R" after their name?

Please answer this important question for me, because right now, it just sounds like more double-standard Republican hypocrisy.
Clavis | 01.12.07 - 4:25 pm | #

Gosh. The 3 remaining Justices must feel all warm and fuzzy for their part in casting aside Al Gore as the rightful 43rd president of the USA.
Satiric Phenomenologist | Homepage | 01.12.07 - 5:13 pm | #

"Boxer, may have gone "over the top" when she passionately personalized Rice's lack of deep understanding of the loss felt by "families" who have lost loved ones..." --Anonymous

She did not go over the top. She included herself in the childless category when she asked the question.

I hear Gw is also childless.
Paul in LA | 01.12.07 - 5:17 pm | #

Boxer over the top??? I heard her comments...No, she wasn't over the top... Sometimes when I post, I'm over the top. Most times talk radio is over the top with one sided rightwing hate though if KSFO is any indication, that might just change...

Boxer however wasn't over the top, she brought a certain levity and reality to that whole lame 'Condi presents her latest plea for leeway, money and entreaties not to pay attention to the man behind the curtin' show she likes to trot out periodically...

Frankly she is becoming a one note piano player and the tune is sounding more and more off key.....JD
Jack Damage | Homepage | 01.12.07 - 5:35 pm | #

Jack Damage | Homepage | 01.12.07 - 5:35 pm | #

I saw the Boxer/Condi confrontation. Once again, only conservatives can find fault in Boxer's statement. She was not "over the top". The only thing over the top is the phony outrage by people who deliberately misinterpret, misunderstand, or take the statements out of context.
jwf | 01.12.07 - 11:45 pm | #

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