HaloScan.com - Comments

I loved Colbert's shiv-in-the-back question "What other cultural editing notes should we take from the terrorists?"

And of course, D'Souza didn't seem to sense the irony of it.
.
TBH | 01.17.07 - 4:59 pm | #

Colbert to Ponnuru:

"You got a great blurb on the cover from Ann Coulter. That's some credibility right there."

Brilliant.
SilentPatriot | Homepage | 01.17.07 - 5:01 pm | #

The Washington Post review of the book is brutal.
"The worst nonfiction book about terrorism published by a major house since 9/11."
Paul, no not that one | 01.17.07 - 5:02 pm | #

Oops here is the link to the review.
http://tinyurl.com/36w5jf
Paul, no not that one | 01.17.07 - 5:03 pm | #

You know you're pathetic when you have trouble even agreeing to the subtitle of your own book.

Colbert hammered him till he felt forced to agree.

Pathetic really.
Szin | 01.17.07 - 5:03 pm | #

i truly don't know how colbert does it, he is beyond human. one-step further down the evolutionary path, if you will (intelligent design dodos need not comment).

if i were colbert i would have bitch slapped that fuck for trying to pin 9/11 on... who? liberals?? that's it you anti-intellectual fuck i'm coming across the table...
Samson- | 01.17.07 - 5:03 pm | #

Umm Samson he DID bitch slap him... verbally
Szin | 01.17.07 - 5:04 pm | #

I can't even watch this. These wingnut authors are so totally bizarre. Our society has become so totally insane it hurts to even contemplate the thought that even one of these jokers could write this sort of book and actually SELL it!
John West | 01.17.07 - 5:05 pm | #

D'Souza not getting what Colbert is doing to him is great.
Par for the course for a member of the irony deaf Corner.
Paul, no not that one | 01.17.07 - 5:07 pm | #

Dinesh D'Souza is a yutz. May all his teeth except one fall from his head... and that one? It should have a toothache.
Wisnton Smith | 01.17.07 - 5:07 pm | #

Man, now Dinesh'll have to run off and have Rich Little interview him....
Bleu Demon | 01.17.07 - 5:07 pm | #

Dinesh D'Souza dated Ann Coulter and was engaged to marry Laura Ingraham.

Nuff said.
Annoyed Canuck | 01.17.07 - 5:08 pm | #

I think it's funny that those who hate Patriarchy the most often think a Matriarchy would be better.
CD | 01.17.07 - 5:09 pm | #

[Deleted. Please respect the siteowner's policy regarding the discussion of alternate 9/11 theories]

Edited By Siteowner
www.dmocrats.org | 01.17.07 - 5:09 pm | #

Dinesh D'Souza dated Ann Coulter and was engaged to marry Laura Ingraham.

Nuff said.
Annoyed Canuck | 01.17.07 - 5:08 pm | #

So he didn't mind that Ann was born with a pistol and a holster?
CD | 01.17.07 - 5:09 pm | #

It's the first time I've properly seen Colbert but that was genius. I laughed out loud and he made D'Souza look like a total idiot. I salute you Colbert!
UKBristolDave | 01.17.07 - 5:10 pm | #

Dinesh D'Souza dated Ann Coulter and was engaged to marry Laura Ingraham.

Nuff said.
Annoyed Canuck

Too bad for D'Souza Victoria Tonseng was already spoken for.
Paul, no not that one | 01.17.07 - 5:10 pm | #

Is D'Souza what passes as "intellectual" in Conservative circles these days?
Loonie | 01.17.07 - 5:11 pm | #

Loonie Conservatives did elect Bush.
CD | 01.17.07 - 5:12 pm | #

I love Colbert...this man is a genius. I posted this on Youtube this afternoon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3...h? v=3nODYRKli0o

I love how when he has someone on that he disagrees with he rips them a new one! He got the guy to admit that he agrees with the terrorists IDEALS! What a freakin retard!

In case anyone missed it, I also uploaded last nites Word on Youtube too:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i...h? v=iXifTeY0Xvg
Gentle Fury | 01.17.07 - 5:14 pm | #

[Deleted. 9/11 conspiracy theories are not the topic of this thread]

Edited By Siteowner
diggins | 01.17.07 - 5:16 pm | #

Is D'Souza what passes as "intellectual" in Conservative circles these days?
Unfortunately, along with legions of underlings.
Dr. Know | Homepage | 01.17.07 - 5:16 pm | #

Dinesh D'souza, Michelle Malkin, Clarence Thomas. What happened to all the white people?
Joe Republican | 01.17.07 - 5:17 pm | #

[Please restrict your comments to the topic and not other posters]

Edited By Siteowner
CD | 01.17.07 - 5:17 pm | #

Put a bowtie on that dweeb and you'd have the Asian George F. Will.

Not that we need one.
Joementum | 01.17.07 - 5:17 pm | #

Is D'Souza what passes as "intellectual" in Conservative circles these days?
Loonie | 01.17.07 - 5:11 pm |

yup, this is the best they have (other than the einsteins that were the [lack of] brains behind the iraq clusterfuck).

oh yeah and '24'

they LUV to point to the commercial success of '24' and claim that it supports their torture-friendly, congress-no-where-to-be-seen ideology. hee hee, they are pointing to a fox show as indication of the efficacy of their unconstitutional principles. the jokes write themselves~
Samson- | 01.17.07 - 5:19 pm | #

I love the fact that someone finally had the guts to write a book giving me credit for insiting Bin Laden to attack America.

I really thought no one would ever notice.
xoites defends Constitution | Homepage | 01.17.07 - 5:19 pm | #

Does anyone else think D'Souza's voice sounds more female than male?
CD | 01.17.07 - 5:20 pm | #

Isn't this hackademic.

'COLBERT (re: 9/11): But is all the responsibility Carter and Clinton’s?
Doesn’t some of it lie at FDR’s doorstep? Doesn’t things like Social Security and Medicare and LBJ’s Great Society, doesn’t some of that send the wrong message to our enemies, that America cares about domestic issues and not just about foreign policy?

D’SOUZA: Indirectly, yes, here’s why. (snip)...FDR gave away Eastern Europe through Yalta, and then the Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan, the Muslims had to fight back and that’s where bin Laden got his start.'

...and deadpan irony snakebites yet another blinkered ideologue.

Golly gee, D'Souza, using your 'scholarly' logic,

(using 'scholarly' in the sense of 'Look at this fresh gold nugget I pulled out of my ass...The fact that it is a suspicious shade of brown affects its gold-like status not one bit')

...Prescott Bush, supporting the Nazis financially as he and his family did before and during WWII was the modern state of Israel's BFF for doing his part to drive so many of the Chosen People out of icky old Germany into the Promised Land, and cull the herd of those weaklings who remained.

Perhaps a posthumous Freedom medal is in order.

Meanwhile, keep putting the ass in assclown, Dinesh.
darkblack | Homepage | 01.17.07 - 5:21 pm | #

wow he got OWNED!
NJM | Homepage | 01.17.07 - 5:22 pm | #

[Please do not feed the trolls]

Edited By Siteowner
CD | 01.17.07 - 5:23 pm | #

It's in these kind of situations, interviewing truly benighted idealogue wingnuts like this putz and William Kristol, that Colbert really flexes his muscles. Hilarious, in a "cat toying with mouse" kind of way...
lewis n clark | 01.17.07 - 5:25 pm | #

I guess he and his publisher subscribes to the Limbaughesque version of fact checking, as in 'None.'
miss_kitty | Homepage | 01.17.07 - 5:25 pm | #

This guy keeps repeating the same old line that Clinton did nothing about terror threats.

Yeah, like how Clinton did nothing about the Cole. So what message did we send the terrorists when Reagan did nothing about the Marines barracks bombing in Lebanon in 1983? I mean, that was the original cut-and-run right there.

And that crap about how Carter 'pulled the persian rug' out from under the Shah... (D'Souza thinks he's clever) I was alive then. That is utter rubbish. There was no way we could keep the Shah in power short of sending in tanks and troops. What handed Iran to the mullahs was the US/UK coup in 1953 which installed the Shah in the first place.

And why does D'Souza love brutal dictators so much? That's what the Shah was.
r€nato | Homepage | 01.17.07 - 5:27 pm | #

xoites defends Constitution,

I always suspected it was you. At least you have the courage of your convictions to admit personal responsibility.

diggins,

There are sites for juvenile conspiracy theories. This isn't one of them.
marcos | Homepage | 01.17.07 - 5:29 pm | #

[Deleted. If you continue to post 9/11 conspiracy theories you wil be deleted on sight. Care comment on the topic? Fine. If not, then go away]

Edited By Siteowner
diggins | 01.17.07 - 5:30 pm | #

The usual cult mind controlling misdirection bullshit-- "the liberals didn't kill a bunch of people after the Cole like WE would have done, so they are at fault for 911"...

The definitive report on the Cole blaming Al Qaeda was given to Cheney Bush and THEY DID NOTHING!!!!

From the WP via AmericaBlog.

At least twice, Bush conveyed the message to the Taliban that the United States would hold the regime responsible for an al Qaeda attack. But after concluding that bin Laden's group had carried out the October 2000 attack on the USS Cole – a conclusion stated without hedge in a Feb. 9 briefing for Vice President Cheney – the new administration did not choose to order armed forces into action.

It is quite obvious how under control the cult of conservatism is. They are incapable of absorbing facts. Facing reality that conflicts with the cult's conditioned hate talk radio world view is not allowed - the same way every cult operates and relates to the world.

While we're at it, what did the patron saint of bobbleheads, Reagan, do after the Marine barracks were bombed killing 241 marines? The "tough" conservative God ran away with his tail between his legs and found little Grenada to beat up on so the cult could have some diversion to control their minds. Damn blind controlled fools. Some believe Iran was involved in the barracks bombing. Reagan gave them cruise missiles for their troubles.

Consevatives are dishonest, deceptive, just like cults.
mw | 01.17.07 - 5:30 pm | #

Does anyone else think D'Souza's voice sounds more female than male?
CD | 01.17.07 - 5:20 pm
WHO CARES?
lafin gas | 01.17.07 - 5:30 pm | #

Does anyone else think D'Souza's voice sounds more female than male?
CD | 01.17.07 - 5:20 pm
WHO CARES?
lafin gas | 01.17.07 - 5:30 pm | #

Uh people.
CD | 01.17.07 - 5:31 pm | #

I know it's not just me thinking this, but no one else is saying it, so I guess I will:

Dinesh D'Souza LOOKS LIKE A TERRORIST.

Seriously. He does. Honest.
And it's up to him to prove to us that he isn't a terrorist, and even then, I won't believe him.
Pete | 01.17.07 - 5:31 pm | #

...and deadpan irony snakebites yet another blinkered ideologue.

Well, Colbert had D'Souza on the run already at that point, D'Souza skipped over a lot there but basically neo-cons love to chant "Yalta! Yalta!" as the original cold-war 'stab in the back'.

What is it with right-wingers and their love of historical revisionism? Yalta was a great accomplishment for Roosevelt. The truth was the war-weary Allies were in no position to wage yet another European land war against the Soviets to throw them out of the eastern Europe which they possessed already at the time, and which they'd paid for with the blood of a generation of young men.

Plus, at the time Uncle Joe was still our ally and there was reasonable hope that the USSR could be cooperated with. The Republicans were in on the Yalta deal and none of them complained at the time. If Yalta was a bad deal, then the Republicans were/are just as complicit as the Democrats.
r€nato | Homepage | 01.17.07 - 5:32 pm | #

"Dinesh D'Souza LOOKS LIKE A TERRORIST."

BTW Thanks Siteowner.
CD | 01.17.07 - 5:33 pm | #

Excuse me, Carter had nothing to do with the Iranian Revolution. The Shah (whom the CIA returned to power in 1952 by overthrowing Mossadegh; the elected Prime Minister of Iran's first democratic government) was overthrown by increasing popular protest resulting in his fleeing the country. It wasn't until Kissinger and others convinced President Carter to let him come to the United States that the embassy hostages were taken in Iran. Also, if the Islamofascists hate our liberal culture so much why don't they bomb Holland or Norway instead of London and New York? It's our foreign policies that most people of the world hate, not our culture. Also, has this asshole ever heard about the Downing Street memo?
I've never come so close to ripping my laptop apart in rage before as just now watching this ignorant piece of shit jerk-off. Where do they come from?
-B
Blazorge | 01.17.07 - 5:33 pm | #

So his thesis is that we're being targeted because we aren't old fashioned and traditional enough, repressive enough, patriarchal enough toward women, and so on, and then prescribes that we must become these things, to avoid it?

Isn't that "caving into the terrorists", which people like him are always screaming about? He wants to give the terrorists exactly what they want, by letting them dictate our way of life?

I've always said it, both sides of religious extremists are peas in a pod. They need each other.

.
Baffled | 01.17.07 - 5:35 pm | #

CD | 01.17.07 - 5:28 pm | #

Good video.
xoites defends Constitution | Homepage | 01.17.07 - 5:36 pm | #

I have always kiddingly said that the neo-con vision of the American dream looks much like India. I think these clips tend to back-up my theory.
ashton | 01.17.07 - 5:37 pm | #

Also, I know that others have probably noticed this as well, but

Dinesh D'Souza is a TERRORIST sounding NAME.

Like Osama Bin'Forgodden.

Dinesh just doesn't have that... American feel, does it?
Again, the onus of proving that he is not a terrorist lies with Dinesh, and no matter what he says, I won't believe him anyway.
Pete | 01.17.07 - 5:37 pm | #

CD | 01.17.07 - 5:28 pm | #

Good video.
xoites defends Constitution | Homepage | 01.17.07 - 5:36 pm | #

For real?
CD | 01.17.07 - 5:39 pm | #

So his thesis is that we're being targeted because we aren't old fashioned and traditional enough, repressive enough, patriarchal enough toward women, and so on, and then prescribes that we must become these things, to avoid it?

Pretty much.

Isn't that "caving into the terrorists", which people like him are always screaming about? He wants to give the terrorists exactly what they want, by letting them dictate our way of life?

Yup.

I've always said it, both sides of religious extremists are peas in a pod. They need each other.

Just like Bush needs Bin Laden and Bin Laden needs Bush.
r€nato | Homepage | 01.17.07 - 5:40 pm | #

Amazing righty tools! Colbert did a fine job on both these freaks. Jeez, that Ramesh's voice is annoying -- maybe that is why he's overcompensating with his arrogant assault on liberals (we're so macho!).
Stus | 01.17.07 - 5:40 pm | #

Baffled | 01.17.07 - 5:35 pm |

Exactly!

Dinesh D'Souza is what I like to call a "in through the out door terrorist".

He looks like a terrorist.
His name sounds terroristic.
And he advocates for them!
He is truly insidious!

Dinesh D'Souza belongs in GITMO with the other terrorists.
Until it is proven that he isn't a terrorist, if such proof can be found, and even then we should keep him there and well tortured for National Security purposes!
Pete | 01.17.07 - 5:42 pm | #

He's obviously a murdering terrorist, His name is hard to pronounce.

Long live the Red State Void.

Bush for God in '08.
That Guy | 01.17.07 - 5:42 pm | #

Dinesh D'souza, Michelle Malkin, Clarence Thomas. What happened to all the white people?
Joe Republican

I AM CERTAIN THAT IS DINESH AND MICHELLE WERE TO MATE THEIR OFFSPRING WOULD SOMEHOW BE ATHLETIC STUNNING BLOND HAIRED BLUE EYED UBER BABIES...EVEN IF THEY DID HAVE TO INJECT DYE INTO THE EYES, WHICH I WOULDN'T PUT PAST EITHER OF THEM

THIS MARCARTHY BULLSHIT HE SPILLS IS PRECIOUS-BACK IN THE DAY HE WOULD HAVE BEEN INTURNED

[Lose the ALLCAPS. It is annoying]

Edited By Siteowner
Mr. Peepers | 01.17.07 - 5:43 pm | #

When I first read the quoted FDR response, I figured he HAD to be in on the joke and was speaking tongue-in-cheek.

He wasn't. WOW.

That was a virtuoso performance from Steven Colbert.
harry snapper organs | 01.17.07 - 5:43 pm | #

Will somebody please flush these wingnut asshats down a toilet like the pieces of shit that they are.
Spideymon | 01.17.07 - 5:44 pm | #

OT

Which is scarier:

a. a secret panel of federal judges issuing, well, anything

or

b. those pesky activist judges

I am appauled senior speedy has again used the COnstitution to whipe his ass! I imagine Disesh would approve.
Mr. Peepers | 01.17.07 - 5:47 pm | #

A little bit of intelligent snark goes a long way to dismantling the arguments of crazies.

Jon and Stephen, you boys keep fighting the good fight. It's funny and inspiring.
Master of the Flying Guillotin | 01.17.07 - 5:51 pm | #

This is great clip. Every question Colbert asked show he has read D'Souza and understood that this man is actually opposed to Liberty and Freedom except where they abet established power and wealth.

I get furious that people like D'Souza get away with their claims that "the Left" (conveniently never defined) is to blame for:

- the decline of the nuclear family

- the so-called depravity of Hollywood films and popular culture in general

- terrorism

- homosexuality

It's all such bullshit, and these assholes are never challenged by the so-called liberal MSM.

- In regard to the decline of the nuclear family: this is happening everywhere, in every country. Nowhere moreso than in traditional cultures in developing countries, where big business is taking root. China and India are great examples. Nobody in their right mind would claim that the economic/social upheavals that are transforming these two countries before our eyes represent Leftism or Socialism or Liberalism. The family is under assault in our world - no question. Capitalism, not Leftism, is the culprit.

- Popular Culture may or may not be depraved - if that's your opninion, fine - but it is , it ain't due to "Leftism". The movie studios, TV networks and record companies are all HUGE businesses, which in the past 20 years have integrated, merged and exploited new technology and political influence for massive profits. These sharks are NOT, by any stretch of the imagination, "Leftists". Janet Jackson's tit is not a threat to American virtue. It's a convenient excuse to further colonize the airwaves for the profit of Fox, Time Warner, Disney and the rest.

- Terrorism is the result of "Leftism"? Looniness. D'Souza has the gall to blame Bin Laden on Jimmy Carter!! Carter was a peacemaker, the last president to broker a lasting peace in the Middle East. The Shah was a vicious despot, worse than Saddam for brutality and torture. He was installed by the CIA after a US-backed coup against an elected Prime Minister. D'Souza is a deluded liar who purposefully ignores US complicity in fascism.

Why does no one question the obvious limitations and contradictions implicit in what this fascist says? D'Souza and his ilk have been left unanswered and undebated for far too long.
Annoyed Canuck | 01.17.07 - 5:53 pm | #

[9/11 conspiracy theories are deleted because they hijack the threads. The conversation is drowned by competing theories being shouted at one another at increasingly hysterical levels. There are any number of sites where one can discuss these theories to heart's content, but this is not one of them.]

Edited By Siteowner
Umberto | 01.17.07 - 5:53 pm | #

Shows what happens when you lock up small children in attics with nothing but the complete works of Ayn Rand.
bubba | 01.17.07 - 5:53 pm | #

BBC Four – Hot Spots: Iran
The US-backed coup of 1953, the hostage crisis in 1979, and the recent nuclear stand-off have all contributed to a mistrust between Iran and the US. Can they ever make up?
mw | 01.17.07 - 5:54 pm | #

Jeez--do all conservatives have such simplistic,one-dimensional world-views?
Colbert chewed him up and spit him out.
SJD | 01.17.07 - 5:57 pm | #

I'm watching John Amato and Markos on TV. Neat.
Avedon | Homepage | 01.17.07 - 5:58 pm | #

umberto,

why wont you get it? the guy on colbert is postulating regarding the cause of 9/11...not the action itself

but you are right, he sounds as insane as all the conspiracy theorists
Uncle Joe McCarthy | 01.17.07 - 5:59 pm | #

It is sad that Colbert and Steward do a better job of asking questions and following up on bad answers than real (as in not fake) journalists. I can't wait to see Colbert do O'Reilly's fake news show.
js | 01.17.07 - 5:59 pm | #

Umberto | 01.17.07 - 5:53 pm

Keep your tinfoil hat somewhere else, little boy.

Anyhow, I'm not surprised another "IT'S ALL TEH LIBRULZ FAULT" right-wing hack gets pwned. That's what they do - they write a hateful diatribe, get it published by right-wing printing houses, go on right-wing media to get their customary right-wing fellatio from the simpering troglodytes of the wingnut media, then go somewhere they think they can win - against someone who has their head outside of their own rectum. And they get smacked down like they ought to.

Then they throw a tantrum about "OMGZ TEH LIBRUL MEDIA IS CENSORING MEEEEE!!!!1", conveniently packaged in their next hateful diatribe, and the cycle begins anew.
Damian, the Left-Hand Player | Homepage | 01.17.07 - 6:00 pm | #

Whatchu talkin bout D'Souza?

I swear I've never seen a helium balloon inhale last this long.
Ruthless People | 01.17.07 - 6:01 pm | #

Do you guys know who is Osama Bin Laden's hero?

That's right, none other than Macgyver!

Macgyver was an ultra-leftist.

Those damn liberals!
smedley the butler | 01.17.07 - 6:02 pm | #

okay fine, I understand how some people can be a little overzealous with the 9/11 stuff. It does get in the way and there are other avenues for disscusion, but I do question some of the people here who are SO willing to go along with the "official story," yet they also realize that the Gulf of Tonkin event was a lie. Anyway, no more posting from me about this stuff. I'm a noob poster, long-time reader. Just learning the ropes.
Umberto | 01.17.07 - 6:02 pm | #

I'm watching the repeat of last nights show-How did Dinesh D'Souza defeat Darwin? How did he get through school? How did he get a microphone and a publisher?
Sheesh! No wonder they hate us. Not for our freedoms though. They hate us for our assclowns.
miss_kitty | Homepage | 01.17.07 - 6:02 pm | #

What a crock. Since when do liberals like to eat maggots? And I don't think liberals have control over the crap that's on TV. As a liberal I gave up on TV years ago.
Jeanne | 01.17.07 - 6:04 pm | #

So is his answer that we become more restrictive like strict Islamic countries?

We erode our own freedoms, and embrace the fundamentalist ideology?

But won't that just EMBOLDEN the radicals to make MORE attacks? After all, they'd see their attacks as helping to convert the world to their ideology.
Brian | 01.17.07 - 6:04 pm | #

SJD | 01.17.07 - 5:57 pm | #

Not all, just the pundits and the smug Neocons who graduated from right-wing colleges in the 80's when Reagan was putting Conservatism into action.

D'Souza is a 1983 graduate of Dartmouth and editor of the Dartmouth Review, when that school was a breeding ground for far-right ideologues. Laura Ingraham was there at the same time. These collegiate Neoclone railed against affirmatve action, civil rights laws, voter registration laws, feminism and other leftist plots. Fuck them all.
Anonymous | 01.17.07 - 6:04 pm | #

Damian - your petty insults are pitiful at best. You're intellectually lazy at worst. How dare you call me a little boy? Do you know who you are talking to?
Umberto | 01.17.07 - 6:05 pm | #

I thought the maggots comment was in reference to Fear Factor. How this worthless show would be associated with Lefties, I don't know.
j10 | 01.17.07 - 6:05 pm | #

one word:
PUTZ
goatsage | 01.17.07 - 6:05 pm | #

What a crock. Since when do liberals like to eat maggots? And I don't think liberals have control over the crap that's on TV. As a liberal I gave up on TV years ago.
Jeanne

You misunderstood. It's not liberals that eat maggots, it's liberal faggots that eat maggots.
marcos | Homepage | 01.17.07 - 6:06 pm | #

I can't wait to see Cheney pick up on this warped concept...the liberals are to blame for 9/11. Unbelievable. Well, it will give Cheney and Bush a reason to spy on anybody who supports the Democrats, Green Party, Independents...well at this point I guess most of America.
Jeanne | 01.17.07 - 6:06 pm | #

It's the liberal maggot eating faggots that eat maggots
goatsage | 01.17.07 - 6:07 pm | #

And I'm really tired of publishing houses wasting money on this crap. There are a lot of good books out there being ignored by publishers because they are buying crap so people can read the covers and put them unread on their shelves.
Jeanne | 01.17.07 - 6:08 pm | #

Wait, I thought this argument was completely rejected by the right at the time of 9/11. They said it was not America's fault, and they hated our freedoms. I guess this guy doesn't think much of America's freedom, and clearly even he is having trouble with the logic in this obviously ridiculous waste of a perfectly good tree.
Anonymous | 01.17.07 - 6:10 pm | #

"...I'm a noob poster, long-time reader. Just learning the ropes."
Umberto | 01.17.07 - 6:02 pm
We're all noobs at one point. Sometimes people forget they had a first post. Welcome to the fray, Umberto.

"I thought the maggots comment was in reference to Fear Factor..."
j10 | 01.17.07 - 6:05 pm
I think it was, too-as a reference to our 'decadent cultural' which is ALL the fault of the 'libruls'
miss_kitty | Homepage | 01.17.07 - 6:11 pm | #

Thanks "That Guy" Being politcally correct is the downfall of the Democratic party.
Umberto | 01.17.07 - 6:11 pm | #

This blog addresses ,nay, PROPOSES, alterate theories of everything Bush says or does. Except 9-11. When it comes to 9-11, Bush is 100% right and honorable. How does he get everything else sooooooo wrong?

Site Monitor: We're not taking a stance on 9/11 one way or the other. We just don't want it brought up, because it took over every thread and people got increasingly abusive.

Edited By Siteowner
Shado | 01.17.07 - 6:12 pm | #

wrap a towl around his head and call Homeland Security. Then we'll see how long he remains a goose step conservative.
Ruthless People | 01.17.07 - 6:12 pm | #

If that exchange were a Little League game, the producers would have invoked the mercy rule within the first two minutes!

Colbert was totally working D'Souza over, and he didn't even realize how brutal a bitchslap he was receiving. Then again, D'Souza is a clueless moron, even by wingnut standards (and that's saying a lot). He doesn't need an avalanche of scathing book reviews or embarassing TV appearances, so much as he needs an intervention. Anyone who views the world the way that he does has got to be on something.

D'Souza also wrote a book back in the 90s called "The End of Racism" where (as the title implies) he argued that racism no longer exists. While other affirmative action opponents argued on grounds of fairness and whether such programs were accomplishing their intended goals, D'Souza argued against AA by simply denying the very existence of racism. So, he's every bit as delusional now as he was back then.

Between D'Souza, Thomas Sowell, Michelle Malkin, Shelby Steele, and their ilk, the wingnuts always like to trot out the token "brown" people to provide cover for their moronic missives. Too bad D'Souza seems to be more of an embarassment than anything.
Woochifer | 01.17.07 - 6:13 pm | #

I think he would be wise to read John Dean's book;
conservatives w/o a conscience.

+ as a woman, the patriarchal family never did much for my sex except exploit it, oppress it and disrespect it -- all while telling us we were to be worshipped on pedestals...what a crock of...
Liberty Lover | 01.17.07 - 6:13 pm | #

Colbert is getting less funny. His stuff is too obvious and in your face.
JT | Homepage | 01.17.07 - 6:13 pm | #

It's the liberal maggot eating faggots that eat maggots
goatsage

You are correct, of course. I was merely simplifying it so that the maggots could understand it without getting uppity.
marcos | Homepage | 01.17.07 - 6:14 pm | #

"...and deadpan irony snakebites yet another blinkered ideologue."

I always considered "Idiologue" to be a more appropriate classification. The same zealous implicit in ideology, but even more idiotic.
Loonie | 01.17.07 - 6:14 pm | #

Why does/did every Democratic president since Thomas Jefferson hate America?
phlounder | 01.17.07 - 6:15 pm | #

They hate us for our assclowns.
miss_kitty | Homepage | 01.17.07 - 6:02 pm | #

That...was...awesome. Thanks for posting, miss_kitty.
Slaw | 01.17.07 - 6:15 pm | #

"When it comes to 9-11, Bush is 100% right and honorable." Shado | 01.17.07 - 6:12 pm

You mean waiving the bloody 911 flag for political opportunism at every chance?
Using it to justify the illegal invasion of Iraq ?
Using it as an excuse to break privacy laws?
For painting your political enemies as traitors?
What is it?
goatsage | 01.17.07 - 6:15 pm | #

I haven't read the book, so obviously, this comment comes with a certain amount of ignorance. But what I do know, is that the Conservobot Dumb-Dumbs of this country like to start with blaming Carter, ignore 12 YEARS OF CONSERVATIVE PRESIDENCIES and skip right to blaming Clinton.

If you want to blame Carter, you gotta blame Reagan, Bush I, Clinton and Bush II. All those men had their chance to do this illusive 'something' about the 'extremists'.
Mr Progressive | 01.17.07 - 6:16 pm | #

Loved how he implied gay marriage is akin to eating maggots.

Guess what D'souza? It's your "traditonal" red-staters who LOVE Fear Factor! Not liberal, gay Christians like myself... I spend my evening reading THE BIBLE.

.
.
.
ejri | 01.17.07 - 6:17 pm | #

goatsage,
That's Cobert's version. Dinesh D'Souza's version is that liberals eat maggots and promote the videos on TV. I do take exception to that because the Republicans own all the TV stations and they want to do everything on the cheap so they put on shows like the ones described. They find some idiot broke enough to compete for money by eating maggots. As a liberal, I refuse to take responsibility for such a middle school concept. When the adults take control of the TV landscape I'll start watching again.
Jeanne | 01.17.07 - 6:17 pm | #

I get this sickening feeling this guy is a Bin Laden plant and is out to make America an Islamic state with the help of the unkowing evangilicals and neocons.
Verum | 01.17.07 - 6:17 pm | #

http://www.autoimagery.com/AmatoLogo.jpg
That Guy | 01.17.07 - 6:18 pm | #

is out to make America an Islamic state with the help of the unkowing evangilicals and neocons.
Verum

Unknowing? The American Taliban knows what it is doing.
marcos | Homepage | 01.17.07 - 6:19 pm | #

Umberto, you can join like-minded folk here:

http://www.keithlaney.net/phpBB/...phpBB/ index.php
That Guy | 01.17.07 - 6:20 pm | #

Why doesn't Dubya get any blame for 9-11? It happened on HIS watch, for crying out loud!

He will *forever* go down in history as the guy that let two airplane take down the twin towers.

He even got a PDB about in August!! How anyone can think he's a hero is beyond me... he didn't keep us safe in 2001, nor 2005 (katrina).

These people have od'd on the kool-aid. They are completely brainwashed & delusional. It's insane. I guess war does that... especially a losing one.
.
.
.
ejri | 01.17.07 - 6:21 pm | #

Thank Gawd for idiots like that...he only proves how pathetic and vile the reich-wingers really are. Thank you!
Dr. Matt | Homepage | 01.17.07 - 6:21 pm | #

Jeanne, I'm with ya'. I'd rather watch my cat shed his winter coat than watch most network TeeVee.
goatsage | 01.17.07 - 6:21 pm | #

Oh yeah about that maggot thing...I thought liberals wanted snooty dramas, nature shows touting the myth of global climate change and documentaries about wine making. Now we are responsible for "Reality T.V." too. Oh no you don't...no, "Reality T.V." exists because it's the cheapest thing to make and broadcast thus maximizing profits for the broadcasting corporation's shareholders which is the sole free-market reason to exist at all in the first place and so it is therefore wholesome and good; American as apple pie. I wonder though, if you polled people who regularly watched "Survivor" in 2004 who they voted for if we'd be surprised at the result. I think that conservative knuckle-draggers are all over that "Survivor" crap.

-B
Blazorge | 01.17.07 - 6:22 pm | #

Blazorge,
Liberals also like shows like NOW and look what happened there. Tomlison got Bill Moyers sacked.

Well...Tomlison got sacked and guess what? Bill Moyers is back next fall. So sweet.
Jeanne | 01.17.07 - 6:25 pm | #

Isn't this topic about 9/11? The title of this guys book is "The Enemy At Home: The Cultural Left and Its Responsibility for 9/11".

Site Monitor: No, the topic is Colbert's interview with D'Souza. We're not going to compare theories as to the cause of 9/11. Don't give us a hard time about it either, because we're not in a good mood.

Edited By Siteowner
Chris | 01.17.07 - 6:25 pm | #

Actually, considering the coming globalist economic apocalypse (tm), maggot eating TV programs are putting out good information that will help us survive the aforementioned globalist economic apocalypse (tm). Large parts of the rest of the world already use insects for protein.
marcos | Homepage | 01.17.07 - 6:26 pm | #

what the hell is wrong with these people? no matter how wonky you might be – "oh, i'm way too smart and busy to know anything about popular culture" – how could you go on with colbert (or sasha baron cohen) w/ knowing (or having "your people know) that you stand a good chance of being played for a fool?
mellowjohn | 01.17.07 - 6:27 pm | #

Who buys this shit?
JAKE EMERSON IN AUSTIN | Homepage | 01.17.07 - 6:27 pm | #

that maggot-eating thing... that's not the fault of liberals, that's the fault of FREE ENTERPRISE, ie, greedy network executives.

Don't blame me, D'ouche D'Souza... blame Adam Smith.
r€nato | Homepage | 01.17.07 - 6:28 pm | #

MellowJohn, you're exactly right about the ignorance. I recall the outrage after Colbert did his thing for the WH Press Corps dinner, and thinking "what did they expect? Just because he plays a rightwing blowhard on TV, did they not GET the joke"?

Kinda like when Rosanne Barr did the National Anthem, what geniuses signed her up for that.
Rabbit | 01.17.07 - 6:29 pm | #

Who buys this shit?

Haters, baiters, reich-wing blowhards, insecure fundamentalists, FOX news viewers, to name a few...
goatsage | 01.17.07 - 6:29 pm | #

Jake,
The uneducated buy the books and set them on their shelves. No wait a minute...they buy Rush's book because he's so manly and they put it on their shelf or coffeetable.
Jeanne | 01.17.07 - 6:29 pm | #

mellowjohn,

You are underestimating Colbert's popularity and the overriding need of these people to sell some books. They go on these shows to sell their books, and they know they're going to get lambasted. They don't care.
marcos | Homepage | 01.17.07 - 6:29 pm | #

Sex sells.
Violence sells.
Hate sells.
Anonymous | 01.17.07 - 6:45 pm | #

Who is this guy? Why is he on national TV?
Luc | 01.17.07 - 6:46 pm | #

Marcos,
I was in a bookstore one day and I asked a clerk why Ann Coulter was getting so much space. He told me they had no control over it but then whispered. "It's not sellng."

I doubt very seriously if this one is either.
Jeanne

There are warehouses of Bill O'Coulter and Ann Reilly books that were "bought" to get them onto the bestseller lists.
marcos | Homepage | 01.17.07 - 6:49 pm | #

as I sit here eating my maggots tartar, I am appauled that anybody even cares about 9/11 theories

people, the federal courts are now officially the gestappo for Team Bush

and we are engaged in twaddle about some grubby little man willing to pimp his book on any program that will have him

ew, I just threw up a little in my mouth and its squirming
Mr. Peepers | 01.17.07 - 6:50 pm | #

Dinesh D'Souza vs Colbert. A bit like a wide-eyed Bambi on the plains of the Serengeti. Looking forward to when Cobert goes after some bigger game.
unrepentant expat | 01.17.07 - 6:50 pm | #

I actually felt sorry for this poor bastard. Watching Stephen crucify him like that on international tv was almost painful.

This adds further weight to my theorum: conservatives cannot grasp the concept of satire.
Lyon | 01.17.07 - 6:51 pm | #

unrepentant expat

I have heard from a trusted CIA pal that Iran is attempting to buy yellowcake from a lion within the Serengeti
Mr. Peepers | 01.17.07 - 6:52 pm | #

It's not the Darwinism you want, it’s the Darwinism you get
unrepentant expat | 01.17.07 - 6:55 pm | #

marcos

I totally apply your logic whenever I want to lie or get away with shit-an angel like me would never behave nor engage in immoral or illegal behavior.
Mr. Peepers | 01.17.07 - 6:56 pm | #

The Washington Post review of the book is brutal.
"The worst nonfiction book about terrorism published by a major house since 9/11."
Paul, no not that one | 01.17.07 - 5:02 pm |

"nonfiction" that's a kind assessment rght there. And Tony Snow talks about "Urban myths"...
Note that the audience is so apalled by this asshole that they don't even laugh that much at Colbert's sarcasm.
a guy | 01.17.07 - 6:58 pm | #

Note that the audience is so apalled by this asshole that they don't even laugh that much at Colbert's sarcasm.
a guy

I think that at a certain point, the audience was horrified by the brutality of the attack. =)
marcos | Homepage | 01.17.07 - 7:00 pm | #

I was half-asleep last night watching that quiet riot on Colbert. I never got the maggot thing...Can someone explain? Thx
gimmeabreak | 01.17.07 - 7:01 pm | #

"Conspiracy theories are a form of neurosis. A conspiracy theorist is one who cannot handle the mental strain of a complex world, and so neurotically constructs an even more complex explanation for events."

Sounds like you've invented a reason for yourself to not examine the evidence.

What's your stance on JFK, RFK, Gulf of Tonkin, or even Iran-Contra for that matter? It's a strange world out there, especially when it comes to blatant cover-ups.

Anyway, I said I'm not gonna post of this topic here anymore out of the respect for the mods on this board, but you people keep egging me on and I'm forced to defend myself. What do you want?
Umberto | 01.17.07 - 7:02 pm | #

marcos | Homepage | 01.17.07 - 7:00 pm |

No doubt...a slow motion train wreck
a guy | 01.17.07 - 7:02 pm | #

Uncle Joe McCarthy,

I've been combing the Lord of the Rings, as well as other works of J.R.R. Tolkien for clues as to where the secret government will strike next.

"The Return of the King"? Uh oh.
marcos | Homepage | 01.17.07 - 7:03 pm | #

LOL! So funny that this D'Nesh loves the type of America that would call him a "sand monkey!"
Darth_Cheney | 01.17.07 - 7:06 pm | #

I'm not sure where the line gets drawn between exposing lies and misdeeds and subscribing to wacky theories, but if you are using the Gulf of Tonkin Incident to support your theory of 9/11, I think you've crossed that line.
marcos | Homepage | 01.17.07 - 7:07 pm | #

I am disappointed that Colbert didn't ask D'Souza whether he had [deleted]

Sycophants (and foreigners) like D'souza have no idea what American values are. You need to grow up in America and be taught by an American father who has experienced life in this country. You need to know what made the USA great.

Edited By Siteowner
character first | 01.17.07 - 7:10 pm | #

What a ridiculous statement!

Hillary Clinton and slave owners of the 1800s...both equally dangerous!

Mr. Peepers | 01.17.07 - 7:10 pm | #

I think in years to come, we'll learn more about 911 than we know now. Look how much has come to light about the Holocaust in the past 60 years?!!!
Darth_Cheney

That's a reasonable statement.
marcos | Homepage | 01.17.07 - 7:10 pm | #

ooh I've got another one:

maggot eating fags and Alberto Gonzalez...both equally dangerous
Mr. Peepers | 01.17.07 - 7:11 pm | #

if the left decadent lifestyle of moral decay was the reason why we were attack, then why does Usama Bin Laden appeal to the common people of the USA of the danger of Bush and corruption of his leadership? Usama was very specific about the Bush administration policy in the middle east.

I think they are both irresponsible in allowing the people get caught in the middle of their wars, being said that they were both born with a silver spoon and have high disregard to human life.
paranoia | Homepage | 01.17.07 - 7:12 pm | #

Peepers,

If Beto was a maggot eating faggot, would the danger be additive or multiplicative?

Yes, I know, it's a scary thought.
marcos | Homepage | 01.17.07 - 7:13 pm | #

You know if D'Nesh was dating Coulter, he's had a mouth or two full of a lot worse things than maggots!

What the hell was he talking about, anyway? If you want to see some disgusting shit to eat, go to a market in Cairo or Morocco. There's crap hanging in windows that would seriously make a maggot puke!
Darth_Cheney | 01.17.07 - 7:14 pm | #

I think they are both irresponsible in allowing the people get caught in the middle of their wars, being said that they were both born with a silver spoon and have high disregard to human life.
paranoia

Yes, I've also noticed an interesting symmetry in this "ideological" battle.
marcos | Homepage | 01.17.07 - 7:15 pm | #

marcos

I dont understand your question, I'm a veterinarian so I dont eat meat
Mr. Peepers | 01.17.07 - 7:15 pm | #

cept umm, maggots-but usually I dont cheat
Mr. Peepers | 01.17.07 - 7:16 pm | #

Seriously LOLing, Peepers. Scared the cats. =D
marcos | Homepage | 01.17.07 - 7:16 pm | #

"Yes, I've also noticed an interesting symmetry in this "ideological" battle."

Yes, two rich, spoiled brats who got everything from their fathers, who can manipulate the weakest minded among their people!
Darth_Cheney | 01.17.07 - 7:16 pm | #

I dont understand your question, I'm a veterinarian so I dont eat meat
Mr. Peepers | 01.17.07 - 7:15 pm | #

I thought it was vegetarians that didn't eat meat?
Beltman713 | 01.17.07 - 7:17 pm | #

kind of hard to eat animals that you help get healed!
paranoia | Homepage | 01.17.07 - 7:18 pm | #

Beltman713

I was seting forth a(n) alternative theory as to why dineash, danish, whatever the scoundrals name is a pimp
Mr. Peepers | 01.17.07 - 7:19 pm | #

kind of hard to eat animals that you help get healed!
paranoia

EXACTLY

thats why we are fighting them there so we dont have to fight them here
Mr. Peepers | 01.17.07 - 7:19 pm | #

kind of hard to eat animals that you help get healed!
paranoia | Homepage | 01.17.07 - 7:18 pm | #

Most people don't eat dogs and cats anyway.
Beltman713 | 01.17.07 - 7:20 pm | #

most westener don't eat cats and dogs!

we are only a fraction of the whole populations.
paranoia | Homepage | 01.17.07 - 7:22 pm | #

yes I know vets treat more than just cats and dogs
Beltman713 | 01.17.07 - 7:22 pm | #

Carnivores eat meat, vegetarians don't, Veterinarians treat meat
goatsage | 01.17.07 - 7:23 pm | #

Restore the Constitution

While I am inclined to share some of your beliefs, it is more important to protect and regain the freedoms the exective stole after the event regardless of its cause.

Impeach the Attorney General NOW!!!
Mr. Peepers | 01.17.07 - 7:24 pm | #

Somewhat off topic, but an interesting BBC production:
The Power of Nightmares - The Rise of The Politics of Fear
Part I
Part II
Part III

Dr. Know | Homepage | 01.17.07 - 7:24 pm | #

goatsage

your use of itallics is so sexytime
Mr. Peepers | 01.17.07 - 7:25 pm | #

Vegetarians don't eat meat? Balderdash! They only eat very slow moving meat (in the form of plants) because they are lazy. It's veterinarians of foreign wars that treat their meat.

PS: Peepers, you're killing me.
marcos | Homepage | 01.17.07 - 7:27 pm | #

maybe sometime in September...Earth Wind and Fire RULES
Mr. Peepers | 01.17.07 - 7:27 pm | #

Mr. Peepers- say what?
goatsage | 01.17.07 - 7:27 pm | #

Veterinarian doesn't necessarily = vegetarian.
Beltman713 | 01.17.07 - 7:27 pm | #

marcos

It's veterinarians of foreign wars that treat their meat.

well, they would if we didnt slash their funding
Mr. Peepers | 01.17.07 - 7:28 pm | #

To Nicole & the Site Team:

THANK YOU!
Dem-agog | 01.17.07 - 7:28 pm | #

I watch the Bill Moyers special on the rise of power of the secret gov't that someone posted here yesterday.

http://getintheirface.blogspot.c...oyers- 1987.html

the video did more to explain how the secret gov't often did more harm and start wars then the usual means.

I wonder if we had a vote would most people favor a secret army defending its own country?
paranoia | Homepage | 01.17.07 - 7:29 pm | #

Mr. Peepers- say what?
goatsage

we could set a date the second week of September for your proposal
Mr. Peepers | 01.17.07 - 7:29 pm | #

"so you do agree with some of the things the terrorists are saying, right?"

HE GOT HAMMERED! Another book jockey trying to cash in on the word "Liberal."
wwwsmitty2003 | 01.17.07 - 7:30 pm | #

Veterinarian doesn't necessarily = vegetarian.
Beltman713

you should so run Hillarys campaign

Mr. Peepers | 01.17.07 - 7:30 pm | #

Mr. Peepers | 01.17.07 - 7:29 pm -

sometime around, oh, say, the 11th?
goatsage | 01.17.07 - 7:30 pm | #

Wait a minute.... Bush cut $ to the Veterinarians Administration, so now veterinarians can't AFFORD meat!!

And the reason westerners don't eat cats and dogs is because THEY EAT THEM OVER THERE SO WE WON'T HAVE TO EAT THEM OVER HERE!

Damn libruls can't get anything right!
(Hey, "right" ...that was a funny.)
Matt in Texas | 01.17.07 - 7:33 pm | #

How can someone who is apparently a smart man be so stupid, He sat there blaming Carter for Iran yet conveniently missed out Reagons funding of the Mujahideen.
Blaming liberals for a distorted image of America is blatantly wrong, the founder of the jihadi thought -Sayid Qutb was outraged by middle america not liberal hollywood, when he visited the US he went to a church dance and was shocked that the priest was encouraging the dancing.
Anun | 01.17.07 - 7:33 pm | #

THEY EAT THEM OVER THERE SO WE WON'T HAVE TO EAT THEM OVER HERE! -Matt in Texas | 01.17.07 - 7:33 pm
Ha!
Okay, I'm done, time for dinner. All this is making me hungry. (and not for maggots, either).

G'night all.
goatsage | 01.17.07 - 7:36 pm | #

Matt in Texas FTW!!
marcos | Homepage | 01.17.07 - 7:37 pm | #

they hate us for our meat?
paranoia | Homepage | 01.17.07 - 7:38 pm | #

. Wow. D'Souza has always been a hack, but at one point, he pretended to be an intellectual. At this point only the jacket and the fancy institutional title remain. In the advance excerpts of his book and in this segment he rivals Coulter, or the Bob Dole of "Democrat wars." Rabidly partisan, truth be damned. Conservatives really have no wonks left, only hacks. And isn't it shameful that anyone subsidizes a man of such profound idiocy, obtuseness, and hatred?

Colbert was astounding throughout, but getting D'Souza on the record near the end was exactly the sort of thing we need done by every "real" interviewer.

Also, since D'Souza was one of the pioneering hacks for the War on Political Correctness, it's interesting he's essentially arguing against freedom of choice and expression in American culture here. I'll have to do some more research, but I thought D'Souza at one point bleeted a few libertarian lines. His rhetoric now goes far beyond merely bemoaning the state of culture - it's pretty fascist. It seems he's always been a social control freak, another "culture warrior," and the freedom stuff was just a smokescreen, but I'd welcome some more links on him...

Paul, no not that one | 01.17.07 - 5:03 pm | #

Thanks for the link! A great review. The one in Slate also has some great lines:

http://www.slate.com/id/2156927/
Batocchio | Homepage | 01.17.07 - 7:39 pm | #

I'm writing a book going outlining my 9/11 conspiracy theory - that Dinesh D'Souza is, in fact, behind the attacks. So go ahead-- delete me! But I have witnesses who claim they saw that SOB jumping up and down on the Brooklyn Heights Promenade as the Twin Towers fell.
BTDT | 01.17.07 - 7:40 pm | #

I'm gonna have to run and eat too...Memphis Catstrips, er catfish strips

better hide your kitties marcos, Im hungry

TTFN
Mr. Peepers | 01.17.07 - 7:40 pm | #

Colbert was just a little Fox Newsey with this interview. Of course 180 degrees opposite. Sometimes it might help to let an interviewie complete a sentence. The guy might have had something to say.
Oldnavigator | 01.17.07 - 7:46 pm | #

OldNavigator, Colbert *DOES* claim Dild O'Reilly as his inspiration...
Rabbit | 01.17.07 - 7:48 pm | #

Had we not declared independence from England, wouldn't be a problem. Or if we didn't have our traditional 'mericun chubby fingers in the oil pie.

Dinesh think he's Assistant Greenskeeper Carl Spackler with the side mouth thing? Kill all the gophers!
senoritchy | 01.17.07 - 7:50 pm | #

It's amazing how these people attest to being experts on Islam, and know absolutely nothing about anything on the religion. Sheesh! people educate yourself before sounding like uneducated bigots.
Cheepers | 01.17.07 - 7:51 pm | #

EDUCATED bigots are no better........
Matt in Texas | 01.17.07 - 7:52 pm | #

Another chapter in "Matt shows his internet ignorance:"

marcos, what does "FTW" mean? (I'll assume it's good)
Matt in Texas | 01.17.07 - 7:54 pm | #

yes by all means let's review the activist court that imposed the presidency of shrub on the country
senoritchy | 01.17.07 - 7:59 pm | #

FTW= fort wayne?
paranoia | Homepage | 01.17.07 - 8:00 pm | #

FTW= F**K the whitehouse
paranoia | Homepage | 01.17.07 - 8:01 pm | #

This guy keeps repeating the same old line that Clinton did nothing about terror threats. I wish Colbert had asked him about the wingnuts that said Clinton was wagging the dog and how many argued in favor of legislation to get out of Somalia.
Vic | 01.17.07 - 5:18 pm |

Bush's own investigators admitted that there were no WMDs in Iraq because the "wag the dog" strike at the end of his administration got the last of them, and Saddam gave up on the project.

The NeoCons willfully get the timeline wrong, and ignore their own logic. They like to quote Clinton for credibility in that "even Clinton threatened Saddam about WMDs" and then in the next breathe say; "he didn't take it seriously." While eventually talking about Clinton being a warmonger because he blew up Baby-food factories.

Here is what happened;
Following good intelligence, Clinton warned Saddam about his weapons development program.
Saddam ignored him, hoping he didn't know where it was.
Clinton gave the order for a group of cruise missiles to hit the site.
Republicans blame Clinton for "wag the dog" to distract people during their important Monica-gate investigation.
Saddam shuts down weapons development.

Later, after 9/11, Bush NeoCons gets Lincoln Group and others (being paid by government funds for propaganda -- but he is careful to site sources outside US) -- especially news organizations in Australia, start putting out WMD information, based upon wishful thinking.

So yes, Clinton was for the idea of WMDs before he was against them... mainly because they were destroyed. It makes more sense if you put it on a timeline.

Though Clinton didn't get much sleep, and he was continually hounded... he took care of the People's business. Though I didn't much care for some of his Corporate policies -- I have to respect him for never dropping the ball in fulfilling his duties for office. Bush doesn't even know where the ball is.
VitriolAndAngst | 01.17.07 - 8:01 pm | #

FTW= fool the wise?
paranoia | Homepage | 01.17.07 - 8:01 pm | #

FTW = for the wecord --- Elmer J. Fudd
senoritchy | 01.17.07 - 8:03 pm | #

FTW= for the win.
notmarcos | 01.17.07 - 8:04 pm | #

That douchebag is the love child of Apu Nehesapetapeemalan (of Simpsons fame) and Ann Coulter.

...
Purple Patriot | 01.17.07 - 8:08 pm | #

jan 27th for anyone that can protest at the capital, you will have my gratitude!
We need numbers, and its a great way to meet people instead of watching TV.
paranoia | Homepage | 01.17.07 - 8:09 pm | #

Ahh, Ann Coulter's old college boyfriend shows just how retarded the entire neocon way of thinking truly is. "We stopped supporting the Shah.."

How ludicrous, we INSTALLED the Shah by deposing the popularly elected socialist Mohammed Mossadegh in 1953's Operation Ajax, once he began talking about nationalizing Iran's oil industry. And then, after decades of repression by the 'western-minded' puppet Shah, Iranians revolted by following radical mullahs, who were the only entity the Shah couldn't quietly murder.

And D'Souza blows right by all that, and blames it on Carter. Stellar thinking....for a 3rd grader. Proof positive that a Harvard degree means zilch.
Atlas Spanked | 01.17.07 - 8:15 pm | #

Colbert put the shiv in exactly where it would do the most damage. D'Souza and his ilk want to say intemperate things without being called intemperate. They want to put forth uncivil rhetoric without being accused of incivility.

Ol' Steven reminded Dinesh that he can't have it both ways. Brilliant.
Macdaffy | 01.17.07 - 8:21 pm | #

VitriolAndAngst | 01.17.07 - 8:01 pm |

You're absolutely correct. I believe that the Clinton administration would already have gotten Bin Laden through the use of investigative and military tactics.

Relative to Clinton, Bush seems like a 15 year-old who's doing his chores because he has to or he won't get his allowance. It just kills red-staters that their boy has screwed the pooch so bad; and they'll never admit that the republicans' Monica-gate damaged our country and Clinton's ability to focus on Bin Laden (which he was trying to do).

The good news is that Bush/Cheneyburton have completely blown their own credibility out of the water. Many red-staters are starting to come around; but they just won't say it out loud because they ignorantly think it's patriotically weak.

...
Purple Patriot | 01.17.07 - 8:24 pm | #

Thanks to all for the insight.

I believe Elmer Fudd.
Matt in Texas | 01.17.07 - 8:33 pm | #

Screw the Gatekeepers | Homepage | 01.17.07 - 8:23 pm |

Please visit www.m-w.com (Merriam Webster) and type in the word "credability". (from your post)

Then type in the word "imbecile".

Then just for fun (for all of you 13 year-olds out there) type in "smegma" ... as in: "Anyone who buys into the absurdity of certain conspiracy theories has smegma where their brains should be."

...
Purple Patriot | 01.17.07 - 8:33 pm | #

colbert sorted that hindu desouza bush ass licking crap out .
anonymous | 01.17.07 - 8:33 pm | #

anonymous | 01.17.07 - 8:41 pm |

Gee, you caught me. Please see me after class so we can work on punctuation and sentence structure.

...
Purple Patriot | 01.17.07 - 8:43 pm | #

C'mon ... you're killing my zingers with your deletions.

(sigh)

...

You're right on the money, sorry we can't let you play with it some more. Thanks for being such a good sport!

Edited By Siteowner
Purple Patriot | 01.17.07 - 8:44 pm | #

This guy is so full of s#$!
Scott | Homepage | 01.17.07 - 8:48 pm | #

I couldn't even finish watching the clip. Un F*cking beleivable.
damn that FDR if he had ony had a Truckasauros all would be right with the world.
UGH
pidomon | 01.17.07 - 9:00 pm | #

Wait till Thursday kids. Colbert is on O Liellys show and Billbo Dildola is on Colberts show. Should be fun.
Col Kilgore | 01.17.07 - 9:06 pm | #

D'Souza so had his ass handed to him. Colbert was merciless. Good for him. And thanks to the C&L site team for toasting 9/11 insanity.
onehandle | 01.17.07 - 9:16 pm | #

Point/Counterpoint is nice, but there was one thing my high school debate coach kept repeating; always look for a reductio ad absurdam opportunity in your opponent's logic. Find it, trace it out, make your opponent eat it in cross-x or rebuttal, and the match was yours.

Colbert is a master.
pluky | 01.17.07 - 9:25 pm | #

Conservatives are soooooo damn pathetic and dumb. The more we hear from them and confront them the better!!
Liberal Injection | 01.17.07 - 9:27 pm | #

As a liberal/progressive with a wife, two kids, a dog, a mortgage, etc. I find it truly strange to hear that I am a source of moral decay because I advocate universal health care, tolerance, diversity, equal opportunity, education, etc. Why exactly does that make folks like bin Laden want to strike out and get us?

The idiots that spout such nonsense obviously have a readership that is either willfully ignorant or so hateful that the most rudimentary elements of reason have been banished from their minds.
sciguy | 01.17.07 - 9:36 pm | #

I can't believe he would even think 9/11 was done by liberal influences in this country. That sickens me. Everyone knows Osama did it all from his location in Afghanistan and his minions. Geez. This guy sickens me.
Orangutan | Homepage | 01.17.07 - 9:46 pm | #

more proof conservatives would bend over backwards to give the terrorists anything they want.

Aw, they don't like homos and Hollywood? Better change, America, or we're under attack again.

Fools.
Marco | 01.17.07 - 10:00 pm | #

Yep, just like the rightwingnuts. Blame the liberal. Yet it is the extremist regilion that has the world in a uproar.
SouthernYankee | 01.17.07 - 10:06 pm | #

Not even the liberals could pull off something so heiness. Only cave men in Afghanistan could do something as complicated as this. Just ask the Neo-cons who put together the official 9.11 commission report.

Danish or whatever his name is is completely messed up.
Orangutan | Homepage | 01.17.07 - 10:12 pm | #

So - are the conservatives that stupid that they don't realize that Colbert is putting this on?
DrWolfy | 01.17.07 - 10:14 pm | #

Colbert is a genious for pulling this stuff off.
Orangutan | Homepage | 01.17.07 - 10:16 pm | #

"Please go to other sites to discuss alternative 9/11 Theories. But please do think about it."

Do not think about it?

I am trying.
Ben M. | Homepage | 01.17.07 - 10:26 pm | #

sciguy. I too am a liberal progressive with wife and kids and job and dog. Still married to the same woman after 13 years etc. It’s striking to me that when you look around it’s the LP's who most solidly embody family values and the Republicans who divorce, frequent prostitutes and chase around teenage boys. Research shows the Conservatives are more likely to be into S&M. And they call us decadent.
Thomas Doyle | 01.17.07 - 10:28 pm | #

Re the policy: I'll respect it but disagree with it. It's extremely inconsistent to critique the MSM for being shills of the Government, when at the same time you want to shut out alternative media on what is the most important story of our time.

We certainly agree that the real terrorists reside in DC and Riyadh anyway.
VinnieVegas | 01.17.07 - 10:36 pm | #

"D'Souza so had his ass handed to him. Colbert was merciless. Good for him."

So very true and so very enjoyable.

Colbert upped the ante on D'Souza's nonsense multiple times. "Let me show you just how idiotic your assertaions are, just by following their illogic !"
iwantmyamericaback | 01.17.07 - 10:38 pm | #

Purple Patriot - thanks for the trip down Memory Lane. 20 years ago my freshman dorm-mates and I had a field day with the word "smegma," running for Student Government on the Student Mandate for Effecitve Government Moving Ahead (S.M.E.G.M.A.) Party. I haven't thought of the word in many years!
Matt in Texas | 01.17.07 - 10:42 pm | #

P.S. We lost big time. But not without cool posters.
Matt in Texas | 01.17.07 - 10:44 pm | #

I've watched this ten times on my TIVO after watching it last night. The most hysterical thing is that De Souza is not in on the joke..he does not realize he's being ridiculed. Bill Kristol and others get it...De Souza just keeps plowing ahead.

This beats the Wexler interview for all time Colbert....he just humiliates the right wing movement in one swipe.
JL | 01.17.07 - 10:50 pm | #

Okay, going to be childish: did Dinesh lose weight and his voice drop between those two appearances (or vise versa.)

I LOVED the Hawk Missile reference of Colbert's about Iran Contra. D' kinda hiccupped.
RppPolyp | 01.17.07 - 10:52 pm | #

Every time I try to watch the clip I have problems. It just stops and goes into Eternal Buffering Mode. And the Quick Time won't work for me either.
BTDT | 01.17.07 - 10:54 pm | #

It's the right wing greed, constant meddling in other's internal affairs and imperial ambitions that caused 911. If Bin Laden wanted to attack liberalism, he would have picked a target like Sweden or Netherlands which are more liberal than America in every sense.
View From East | 01.17.07 - 10:57 pm | #

Itz the way the gays rub down with all those petroleum products while eating maggots. The Arabs are mad that we aren't paying a fair price for the petro.
Oilive | 01.17.07 - 11:07 pm | #

"The Enemy At Home"

So it's an autobiography?
Mugsy | Homepage | 01.17.07 - 11:12 pm | #

Too funny. The "eating maggots" part is from fear factor...

A fox show.
Alexandrite | 01.17.07 - 11:23 pm | #

FTW = Fort Worth (I think).

But I like "fugg the Whitehouse" better.
Straight Shooter | 01.17.07 - 11:56 pm | #

Oh. my. GOD.

At first I knew this was going to be lame when Dinesh blamed CARTER for 9/11. I mean that's going WAY back in the way back machine.

But I love how Colbert can take these stupid winger arguments, follow it to it's most extreme and utterly ridiculous conclusion and act like he agrees with it wholeheartedly forcing the guest to denounce what he came on there to promote.

Damn. Colbert is so incredible!
snowfie | 01.18.07 - 12:01 am | #

The twit came to speak at a place I used to teach and the right-wingers found this a huge, huge victory. He completely trashed a faculty member who had the temerity to actually challenge him and she received numerous death threats from cooks all over the country. There right-wingers can't handle serious debate or discussion, but are too stupid to realize their own stupidity. I mean, I'm not brilliant, but at least I'm able to understand the limits in my own arguments.
Alisa | 01.18.07 - 12:02 am | #

Matt in Texas | 01.17.07 - 10:42 pm |

Now that is truly "laugh out loud" funny.

I caught myself thinking, "20 years ago? Damn this guy is old." Until I realized we would be the same age. Then I cried.

...
Purple Patriot | 01.18.07 - 12:05 am | #

This guy is posing as a Muslim with insider info about how the Muslims perceive us. It's a great way to gain credibility and airtime with the Fox News audience, which then turns into book sales. In reality, he is a Christian Indian from a very non-muslim part of India.
zeta | 01.18.07 - 12:35 am | #

Plus, at the time Uncle Joe was still our ally and there was reasonable hope that the USSR could be cooperated with. The Republicans were in on the Yalta deal and none of them complained at the time. If Yalta was a bad deal, then the Republicans were/are just as complicit as the Democrats.
r€nato | Homepage | 01.17.07 - 5:32 pm | #

And don't forget the legendary Churchill who was quoted as saying about Yalta that he "would sup with the devil" to put an end to bloodshed. Even an uneasy peace is preferable to unnecessary war.
jwf | 01.18.07 - 12:39 am | #

Props to Colbert for even being able to stomach sitting and talking with people like this.
Ziff | Homepage | 01.18.07 - 1:10 am | #

"i truly don't know how colbert does it, he is beyond human. one-step further down the evolutionary path, if you will (intelligent design dodos need not comment)."

Easy: He's one of Leary's Intelligence Agents
madmoll | Homepage | 01.18.07 - 1:16 am | #

I felt sorry for D'Souza. He's like the punching bag Colbert is hitting practicing for his title fight with Papa Bear tomorrow night.
Agent W-Zero-W | 01.18.07 - 1:27 am | #

If you can't discuss 9/11 than why include a Colbert piece about some guy blaming liberals for 9/11? I understand the policy but I'm wondering how one is supposed to approach something like this.

Site Monitor: We're not interested in moderating people throwing different theories at each other and getting increasingly more hysterical in defending their version. We're pretty sure that if you try real hard you can keep it to Colbert's technique or D'Souza's idiotic premise (as about 300 people already have done) without getting into larger issues of 9/11. By the way, did you know that we don't like multiple identities? We know who this is and we don't appreciate the new site name.

Edited By Siteowner
OK | 01.18.07 - 2:37 am | #

This guy is something else. Where do they find them? Thank god for Steven Colbert.

I was cruising this guys bio and trying figure out if he had ever done anything beside suck the right wing media tit. Doesnt look like it.

Mike
Mike Davies | 01.18.07 - 3:15 am | #

I just can't understand if these right-wing nuts that agree to go on colbert's show can sense the sarcasm and they think they can make some headway with their delusional thoughts,they are oblivious to it,or if they are just whores trying to get any exposure possible.....hmmmmmmmm....me thinks all of the above
jared hyder | 01.18.07 - 3:36 am | #

o'lielly purchased a first-class bitch-slap of satire on the colbert express.......
jared hyder | 01.18.07 - 3:39 am | #

Where does the right wing find dumbass schnooks like this?
The Liberals convinced Jimmy Carter to withdraw support for the Shah of Iran?!! We tried to get rid of the Shah?
The FDR stuff was a hoot too.
Man this guy is on acid.
waterboarding for Jesus | 01.18.07 - 3:47 am | #

I am an Indian too and I am ashamed of these two dumb fuck Indians who don't know what they are talking about.
ting | 01.18.07 - 4:15 am | #

Regarding the Yalta Conference:

If we are to believe Churchill, FDR was on board with him in putting up a united front against Joe Stalin (within the context of all three being allies against the Axis powers, of course), but FDR's ill health (not liberal policies) kept him from putting up a rigorous defense to Stalin's bullying.

By the time of the Potsdam Conference, FDR was dead and Truman had been in office (I think) about two months. Churchill didn't have the same rapport with Truman that he had built up over many years with FDR, nor was Truman completely up to speed on the threat that the Soviet Union posed to the post war world. Basically, Truman and Churchill weren't on the same page, and Stalin was able to take advantage of this to install a communist government in Poland and rig elections there.
marcos | Homepage | 01.18.07 - 4:49 am | #

Love the site and the work you do here but your request for "9/11 theory" avoidance is frankly disturbing. Certainly we understand the stigma associated with the topic and why you might choose to avoid it ...

[deleted. C&L does not allow 9/11 or any other conspiracy theory because of any "stigma" but because it has repeated hijacked threads in the past. There are other blogs devoted to those topics, feel free to go there. Otherwise, consult the C&L posting policy and respect the decisions of the siteowner and his monitors.]

Edited By Siteowner
Denny | 01.18.07 - 5:32 am | #

Where do these lunatics come from?
idiotland | 01.18.07 - 5:41 am | #

WHY IS IT?????
If we try to talk about the issues in the Middle East and America's role in them that caused such anger and resentment we are called "Blame America First"???

Yet, people like this, and Falwell and Robertson can go on national television and say that it is our fault because of how Americans wish to live their lives within America????

Are they not rationalizing the terrorists motivation for attacking us? Are they not giving aid and comfort to the terrorists? Are they not BLAMING AMERICA?

When we listen to screeds like theirs, are we not seeing a glimpse of the America that they wish to impose on our country if given the opportunity?

Just a little more power and they would easily be the Taliban and the Ayatollahs!
Darren7160 | 01.18.07 - 7:10 am | #

Your right D'Souza... It must be Jimmy Carter's fault. What an asshole. It was nice to see Colbert make him look like the clown that he is.
Anonymous | 01.18.07 - 7:55 am | #

The Goonies! I knew it, that stupid movie had a role in 9/11. I hope Colbert continues to tell us what other bad movies caused 9/11. Excellent.
Jerry | 01.18.07 - 8:14 am | #

How these idiots come up with this shit just blows my mind, the publishing companies are such tools of the nutty wingnuts, delusional crap posing as intellectual well though out commentary, what a joke these authors of trash are.
Vic | 01.17.07 - 5:02 pm | #

If you had a mass of followers that bought everything you said hook, line, and sinker...it would be very easy to make money off of them....that's the cycle of life in the right wing...
right wing hater | Homepage | 01.18.07 - 8:28 am | #

Where do these lunatics come from?
idiotland | 01.18.07 - 5:41 am | #

They're not born...they're raised...now...that's a subjective term...mind you...
right wing hater | Homepage | 01.18.07 - 8:29 am | #

Accept me, accept me
El Barto | 01.18.07 - 8:29 am | #

Ouch!! Seriously, how do these conservatives let their agents talk them into going on Colbert's or Stewart's show? They always get creamed.
14All | 01.18.07 - 8:53 am | #

Someone earlier asked about the maggot reference? Wasn't he referring to those reality shows where people ate bulls' testicles and other gross things in order to win money? Or was that already answered? That seems to blow his argument all to hell, however, since it's middle America (i.e, so-called traditional values America), who made those shows popular.

Anyway, the fact that Stephen does those interviews more or less improv is even more astounding.
midgie | 01.18.07 - 9:10 am | #

Dinesh D'Souza apparently thinks that Bin Laden is OK with Americans as long as they are upstanding traditional Christians. Nope, sorry, pinhead, that's wrong.

Bin Laden believes everyone is an infidel who doesn't follow his brand of extremist Islam, and that includes moderate muslims - he hates them too. Pinhead should listened to a few of Bin Laden's public messages.
A. J. Arno | 01.18.07 - 9:46 am | #

One of the finest moments of the show by far! Here's hoping he does the same thing to O'Reilly
Gronk | 01.18.07 - 9:54 am | #

It's funny to hear someone like Dinesh D'souza extolling the the virtues of "traditional American values". If the the so called "real Americans" had their way, D'souza would be relegated to parking cars or bussing tables. He can thank the evil Liberals that he has been able to build a relatively lucrative career bashing them. These wingnuts - they just don't do irony, do they??
gene214 | 01.18.07 - 10:21 am | #

9-11,
dems fault

insanity..

or was it Clintons fault ..thats right Clinton did it
bushisaliar | 01.18.07 - 10:25 am | #

Why don't conservative warmongers ever take responsibility for their own failures? Lest it be forgotten, Republicans have been in the White House 22 out of the last 34 years. Fiscal irresponsibility, mismanagement and record deficits have occurred primarily on their watch. Barry Goldwater would be ashamed of Dinesh D'Souza.
LesserFool | 01.18.07 - 10:25 am | #

UPDATE: This is Nicole. The site team wanted me to remind our readers that this thread deals ONLY with Colbert's interview with D'Souza and that any and all 9/11 alternative theories brought up in response will be deleted in their entirety. Please respect John's wish to not have 9/11 discussions on his site and please don't make more work for the site team. Thanks.

_______________________________

basically we dont want to be labeled loonies
Luke | 01.18.07 - 10:46 am | #

9/11 was Iraq's fault...

right?
Luke | 01.18.07 - 10:49 am | #

How is it that people like this, and Ann Coulter, and David Horowitz (to name just a few whose sanity is seriously in question and who seldom, if ever, make an argument that even remotely holds water) manage to get on major TV outlets all the time and people like Gore Vidal, Noam Chomsky, Barbara Ehrenreich and even Molly Ivins are nowhere to be seen?
MS | 01.18.07 - 11:08 am | #

Colbert is a matador who sends right-wingers charging off the logic cliff. He holds out FDR and whoosh! There goes D'Souza blaming the New Deal for 9/11. Reductio ad absurdam.
I thought it was a bit annoying towards the end when Colbert kept interupting him but it was worth it to get D'Souza on record sypathizing with Bin Laden.
darth zinn | 01.18.07 - 12:09 pm | #

D'Souza pwned!!!
No need to herald Colbert's "brilliance" in this instance, as it was much like watching someone beat up on a quadrapalegic. Not too much work beyond swinging.

A big 'ol Tip of the Hat to Colbert for actually doing the work to beat down the intellectual amputee. I almost started feeling bad for the guy after Colbert smacked him down, backed up to let get back up only to smack him down again. Then, I remembered what this guys' "views" are (that's nice-speack for schizophrenic lunacy) and got right back into cheering Colbert on.
gh0st | 01.18.07 - 12:32 pm | #

A bit o'history D'Souza is unfamiliar with: He says the Islamist radicals "don't know the real America. They only know the distorted version of America they see in the media." (PS - "the media" should be called what they are -- advertizers. That's where most people around the world get their view of America from-- the advertizing industry, which is filled with market researchers like Karl Rove).

Anyway, one of the most influential anti-Western, fundamentalist Muslim thinker/activists of the modern era was an Egyptian named Sayyid Qutb. He develped his hatred for America and the West right here in the good old US of A. He attended a university in Greeley Colorado -- a very CONSERVATIVE town where alcohol was illegal--- in the 1950s. Not exactly a bastion of liberal decadence. One of the things that disgusted Kutb was America's obsession with lawn care. Another was chaperoned town dances at a local Christian church, where males and females were allowed to dance TOUCHING EACH OTHER. Another was the American male's obsession with sports.

That the "liberal decadence" that Al Qaeda despises -- church dances, football and green lawns.
BTDT | 01.18.07 - 12:33 pm | #

This one's for Mr. Colbert... we all know how he fears bears

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T...h? v=TUX0UKg3Jdw
neodata | Homepage | 01.18.07 - 1:06 pm | #

I did not enjoy the beating Colbert gave D'souza, although I'm in wholehearted agreement with the argumentative positions that underlay Colbert's discourse. Colbert's display of raw aggression against an obviously helpless opponent was not the sort of thing which will improve American respectability.

Colbert could have been entertaining, even humorous, but to do that he would have had to give D'Souza time to respond to the blunt-object blows. As it was, Colbert relied upon rhetorical strategies which made him look as brutal as D'Souza, although not quite so stupid.
drobinson | 01.18.07 - 1:34 pm | #

neodata | Homepage | 01.18.07 - 1:06 pm | #

You take that back. Stephen does not fear bears. Stephen simply sees them for the America hating, ravenous, lethal threat that they are.
Agent W-Zero-W | 01.18.07 - 1:43 pm | #

Who!?!?!?

next topic.
ByrdCage | 01.18.07 - 1:52 pm | #

I watched this on TV and wasn't sure whether to laugh, cry, or puke. My initial thought was, "Is this guy SERIOUS?!" Then I realized he actually was. Unbelievable, and scary...Stephen Colbert was brilliant though, as always. I'm looking forward to see how he handles O'Reilly!
Rebecca from VA | 01.18.07 - 2:43 pm | #

I'm looking forward to seeing how he handles O'Reilly...proofreading is good.
Rebecca from VA | 01.18.07 - 2:44 pm | #

Colbert's brilliant. A while back, George S. Thompson wrote a book called "Verbal Judo: Words as a Force Option", the premise basically being you use the other person's arrogance, ignorance and ego to add to your power in a verbal exchange. Colbert must've read - nay, wrote the book. I think that also answers the question of why these troglodytes continue to come on the show only to get their ass handed to them - their ego makes them think that they will be the ONE that finally bests Colbert. Lambs to the slaughter...
Rareflight | 01.18.07 - 2:45 pm | #

Sorry. That's George C. Thompson. Yikes. Maybe my affinity for Gonzo journalism got the better of me...
Rareflight | 01.18.07 - 2:47 pm | #

[no 9/11 or any other conspiracy theories, please.]

Edited By Siteowner
Bruce | Homepage | 01.18.07 - 2:51 pm | #

Do you know what would have been cool?

After D'Souza stated that he agreed with radical Islamics, Colbert should have said "Sir, prove to me that you aren't the enemy"
Angry Black Man | 01.18.07 - 3:04 pm | #

Welcome to the next generation of "thinkers" that conservative think-tanks have cranked out over the last twenty years - a/k/a/ the Reagan-babies.

Dinesh D'Souza is considered one of the best-and-brightest young minds in conservatism today.

But, Russell Kirk, Frank Myer and W.F. Buckley he is not. Unlike D'Souza, these men were respectable and serious thinkers. They knew how to formulate and debate ideas in a civil manner.

By comparison, D'Souza (and Ann Coulter et al.) are mental midgets that rely on emotions rather than facts in order to sell books and divide Americans.

You know a movement is in its final years when it its apologists come from the bottom of the academic barrel.
LesserFool | 01.18.07 - 3:26 pm | #

Good job by Colbert. I'm so glad that he didn't even attempt to treat this whore with any seriousness at all. Treat him like the clown that he is and let everyone see it confirmed when he starts speaking.
Fear Itself | Homepage | 01.18.07 - 3:33 pm | #

Its rather sad that crooksandliars.com allows and encourages multiple comments about how D'souze "looks" like a terrorist. Of course, he's from India and India is the largest victim of islamic terrorism on the planet, with more civilians murdered by Islamists than in all other countries combined. The very reason the Taliban and Pakistan supported-terrorism exists is to wage asymmetrical warfare against India. Lakshar-e-Taibba has only one stated goal: the complete destruction of Hinduism and slaughter of all Hindus.

LOL! So funny that this D'Nesh loves the type of America that would call him a "sand monkey!"

I find it really funny that the pseudo-enlightened people are letting their guard down and projecting to others what they are actually thinking themselves...

LOL!
foo | 01.18.07 - 4:05 pm | #

in a word...douchebag
SAH | 01.18.07 - 4:43 pm | #

Colbert did a good job with this guy - who probably would know if Coultergeist is a man in drag or just a woman with an Adam's apple. This guy's inability to tell a joke from a serious statement (something conservatives seem to have a problem with) earned him a Worst Person nod last night.
ski | 01.18.07 - 5:00 pm | #

Huh?

Aren't Islamic VERY family, albeit with the man in charge of everything?

It's an 11/9 conspiracy.
ysbaddaden | 01.18.07 - 5:01 pm | #

Now that was a 'How-to' clinic in NeoCon taxidermy.
I've never seen an insect stuffed before...next time he pulls off their wings he should make a wish
mk ultramaroon | 01.18.07 - 5:10 pm | #

Censorship sucks...

9-11 was an inside job.
Chain Dick | 01.18.07 - 5:24 pm | #

I'm actually pretty taken aback by your broadbrush accusation that any alternative theory to what happened beyond the official story be labeled a conspiracy theory.
Wouldn't you consider D'Souzas stance a conspiracy theory?
I might be able to understand trying to keep the thread on point, but you and I and many other bloggers realize threads take on a form of there own. If a poster wants to take some of the interview and interject a alternative theory based off a particular point of the interview, that should not be deleted simply because the administrator feels its a conspiracy theory.
I would like to say that the FDR point of the interview was missing one point. I feel it was FDR's use of false flag operations (Pearl Harbor), that set the precedent for future presidents to offer up American citizens and military up for sacrifice to forment a war that would otherwise be impossible if it were not for the attacks that were facilitated.
If you at C&L really believe in the title of your website then you might want to rethink your recent decision of censorship.
Sean
Sean Fluette | Homepage | 01.18.07 - 5:46 pm | #

How convenient for Dinesh and chums. Bring back the 1950's and Islamic terrorists will start to......

What exactly?

At most they would be mildly amused, since it was the 'depraved' culture of the American 1950's (among other things) which ignited modern Islamism in the first place. Eisenhower - you dirty fucker. I banish your liberal evil from this earth! Begone demon!

When will it all end? When we all start wearing thin ties and dancing in a responsible manner of course! Bin Laden will be dealt a mortal blow to his balls. And Dinesh can get another book deal.

The stuff about FDR was great. Why not blame Christopher "Another Liberal" Columbus for the rise of the Taliban? If that bastard hadn't discovered America there would never have been an FDR to ruin the world and make it ripe for homo-commie-bortion-Isla-tax-wrongism!

We love you Dinesh. More please.
nanook | 01.18.07 - 6:54 pm | #

alternative theories? how about the damn truth?

but yea lets talk about some moron puppet show instead of the most important event in our recent history.
freedom | 01.18.07 - 8:10 pm | #

My vasectomy?
nanook | 01.18.07 - 10:20 pm | #

I was never all that impressed with the "old conservative" arguments of Buckley, etc. They used a lot of big words and tried to dress up racism, sexism, homophobia, xenophobia, and environmental destruction with long-winded pseudo-intellectual bullshit.
jwf | 01.19.07 - 12:22 am | #

I had forgotten how boring this site has become, and why I seldom visit it anymore.
farang | 01.19.07 - 10:19 am | #

*drobinson | 01.18.07 - 1:34 pm | #

You have to be kidding. Apart from talking over him a few times, what did Colbert do that was wrong? D'Souza's entire thesis is ridiculous, and an unfounded partisan attack. As others have observed upthread, Colbert used the classic debate technique of reductio ad absurdum to establish and expose exactly how radical D'Souza's assertions really are. D'Souza is not merely a social conservative, nor even a social regressive, he is a radical. The Slate article I linked upthread has D'Souza spell it out explicitly as well:

[I]f the political left and the Islamic fundamentalists are in the same foreign policy camp [because they both hate American imperialism], then by the same token the political right and the Islamic fundamentalists are on the same wavelength on social issues. The left is allied with some radical Muslims in opposition to American foreign policy, and the right is allied with an even larger group of Muslims [which includes radical Muslims] in their opposition to American social and cultural depravity. This is the essential new framework I propose for understanding American foreign policy and American social issues.

D'Souza's thesis has no merit. Those individual arguments he has publicly expressed have no merit. Colbert trounced him based on substance, not style, although there's no question he trounced him handily on style points as well. Colbert allows D'Souza to advance his ludicrous assertions before he pounces. D'Souza would be schooled in a formal debate as well (and I saw it happen on PBS years ago, on Buckley's debate series). It's not as if Colbert engages in the bullying tactics of Hannity and his ilk here - there's an huge difference between shutting someone else up and nailing them down on their actual views. The former is done by hacks, the latter is done by good journalists and debaters. Frankly, the MSM could use to do more of what Colbert did, albeit with a tone appropriate to their profession (less jokes). Colbert's trying to be entertaining, and he succeeds (as usual), but all the pearl-clutching in the world about a lack of civility can't erase the fact that Colbert's little segment also contained more substance and meaningful journalism than most interviews out there.
Batocchio | Homepage | 01.19.07 - 2:49 pm | #

How can anybody with a closed mind be an intellectual
Necadawg | 01.21.07 - 12:26 am | #

OMG--I've been thinking over the maggot thing...

Do you know how far that goes? The Protestant Reformation! THE DIET OF WORMS!

Oh, wait, that was the Pope...

It's more insidious than fluoridation--they got the Pope--that means...

...William F. Buckley!

Those filthy liburals!
Mark Foxwell | Homepage | 01.21.07 - 1:28 pm | #

I will simplify D'Souza's argument - he is describing the British Empire, which lasted 200 years because white women were not allowed to flaunt in front of 'the natives'. Because that's the way 3rd world men (and women) like it.

An Afghani woman living in Britain, for example, told me that it is all about underwear and tampon adverts on TV. She regards these as offensive and terrorism as a fit response.

That's how it was in Bombay when D'Souza was there. And for vast masses of men (and their women) in the 3rd world, that is how it must remain - and most of the world's youth are in 3rd world conservative countries. If white women continue to flaunt their freedom in public, then there will be a reaction from the 3rd world men - and D'Souza knows these men and speaks for them.

The Victorian British understood this, how the world works, very well. But Americans have never understood it because the US is founded on an opposite myth. This is indeed a clash of civilizations.
Bruce | 02.05.07 - 9:38 pm | #

I'm with John, I'm so tired of those crazy 9/11 conspiracists. It's not really important who did what and when. It is more important to support Nancy (impeachments off the table) Pelosi and the other Democrats who enabled Bush when they gave him leave to make war on anybody he chooses and to take away our civil liberties. I mean these are the people who are going make America great again. I can't wait to get back to killing Iraqis the old fashion way with economic sanctions. Get rid of neo conservatism and bring back neo liberalism anyday.
yeranalyst | 05.16.07 - 2:56 am | #

THE GOVERNMENT MADE 9/11 HAPPEN
I AM MAKING WORK FOR THE ADMINS
Stu | 06.19.07 - 3:04 pm | #

Colbert, try asking a serios question and then listening to the responce and i'll take you seriously.
Bri | 04.14.08 - 8:14 pm | #

There seems to be a bit of confusion. The Daily Show is a comedy bit, these are not real interviews. Anything you witnessed that may have seemed like wit or intelligence on the part of the Daily Show was purely special effect or the keen use of stunt doubles. But, if you find this to be witty or informative may I recommend you tune in to a debate forum called the World Wide Wrestling Federation. I'm sure you'll find it to your liking.
j | 04.16.08 - 6:21 pm | #

Commenting by HaloScan