aaaaaaaaaaaaand like there was *ever* a chance in hell that this was going anywhere?


No prosecution or information coming from this would lead one to believe there was no impersonation. It was in fact the SS that violated these citizen's rights.


time for a relevant protest. Have people show up at the White House dressed in black suits, with sunglasses on, and ear buds on, carrying signs that read NOT SECRET SERVICE, NO PROBLEM!!!!!


Gravatar An Open Letter To the Red States:
http://www.progressiveu.org/node/584


Gravatar Dear Red States,

We've decided we're leaving. We intend to form our own country, and we're taking the other Blue States with us.

In case you aren't aware, that includes Hawaii, Oregon, Washington, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Illinois and the entire Northeast. We believe this split will be beneficial to the nation, and especially to the people of the new country of New California.

To sum up briefly: You get Texas, Oklahoma and all of the slave states. We get stem cell research and the best beaches. We get Elliot Spitzer. You get Ken Lay. We get the Statue of Liberty. You get Dollywood. We get Intel and Microsoft. You get WorldCom... We get Harvard. You get Ole' Miss. We get 85 percent of America's venture capital and entrepreneurs. You get Alabama. We get two-thirds of the tax revenue; you get to make the red states pay their fair share.

Since our aggregate divorce rate is 22 percent lower than the Christian Coalition's, we get a bunch of happy families. You get a bunch of single moms.

Please be aware that Nuevo California will be pro-choice and anti-war, and we're going to want all our citizens back from Iraq at once. If you need people to fight, ask your evangelicals. They have kids they're apparently willing to send to their deaths for no purpose, and they don't care if you don't show pictures of their children's caskets coming home. We do wish you success in Iraq, and hope that the WMDs turn up, but we're not willing to spend our resources in Bush’s Quagmire.

With the Blue States in hand, we will have firm control of 80 percent of the country's fresh water, more than 90 percent of the pineapple and lettuce, 92 percent of the nation's fresh fruit, 95 percent of America’s quality wines (you can serve French wines at state dinners) 90 percent of all cheese, 90 percent of the high tech industry, most of the U.S. low-sulfur coal, all living redwoods, sequoias and condors, all of the Ivy and Seven Sister schools, plus Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Cal Tech and MIT.

With the Red States, on the other hand, you will have to cope with 88 percent of all obese Americans (and their projected health care costs), 92 percent of all U.S. mosquitoes, nearly 100 percent of the tornadoes, 90 percent of the hurricanes, 99 percent of all Southern Baptists, virtually 100 percent of all televangelists, Rush Limbaugh, Bob Jones University, Clemson and the University of Georgia.

We get Hollywood and Yosemite, thank you.

Warmest regards,

The citizens of New California


Gravatar It's the mission of the Secret Service to protect the life of the President, not to protect the President's politics or policies. I think there needs to be a extensive review of the management of the Secret Service to clear up any misunderstandings they may have on this matter.


Gravatar Curious...
They just invaded.


Gravatar I have to ask, what did they do to warrant being ejected? Was there a compelling reason? Granted, no one has the authority to pose as a SS agent and kick someone out of a public forum, but nonetheless, we have to be sure that the other side of the story is clear before moving forward. Otherwise, the right-wingers will simply spin it making them out to be some kind of rabid protestors who posed a threat to all in attendence (which they probably will anyway).

But nonetheless, I want to know what they did to register on this imposter's radar screen?


Gravatar James, A bumper sticker "No blood for oil" or something to that effect.


Gravatar Future "taxpayer-funded Presidential events" can be funded by the President, if the WH and Repub party wants to exclude those who do not toe the party line.

The "New Calif" story is great. We should all send that to our local newpapers !


Gravatar From what I have read the person never identified themselves as a SS agent. Hard to prove an impersonation charge without that.

I have heard worse stories from political rallies involving actual SS agents that have never been investigated which I personally find far more worrisome.

Note to self: When getting ejected from an infomercial in the guise of a town hall meeting, ask for some ID.


Gravatar "Nuevo California" ... heehee


Gravatar [James, A bumper sticker "No blood for oil" or something to that effect.]

That sounds familiar. Go check up on this, but I think that's right. They went to the gathering and parked their car with that sticker, and when they got in they were escorted out. I don't remember if they were wearing anti-Bush t-shirts or not. And weren't they teachers?


Gravatar James, go here:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/20...3/29/113651/ 512

There's also a link to an AP report.


Gravatar The three people who were ejected should file a civil suit against the person(s) who removed them and George W. Bush for violation of their civil rights. Also, there's a false imprisonment issue while being escorted off the premises. They had tickets to this event, and were not doing anything illegal. Paula Jones proved that it was permissible to indict a sitting President. I would surely donate money to see the little dictator's reaction.


Gravatar Curious, as a fellow Californian I want you to look at the following map:
http://vote2004.ss.ca.gov/Return.../pres/ mapAN.htm

It shows how the counties in California voted in the last Presidential election. Red is Republican, Green Democrat.

The Red portions will not become a part of Nuevo California, but will remain with the USA. This includes Yosemite, most if not all of the Sequoias, the majority of the agricultural producing lands, Lake Tahoe, San Diego, Orange County (Disneyland) and the overwhelming portion of the watershed that provides our water during the summer months (and the electricity it produces). If San Francisco still wants water from Hetch Hetchy ... well, that will just have to be negotiated. And the water from Owens Valley stays in the red ... sorry Los Angeles.

So, enjoy your wine. But I suspect you will miss the electricity, water and most of the ag products that come from the red portions of California.

Good luck.


Gravatar I have no doubt in my mind that if the election were held tommorow, Marc C could not make that boast.


Gravatar Man, you're sick. Sad.


Gravatar Thumbs up to you, Mudkitty


Gravatar Steven, you may be right. Who knows? But if we are going to have a satirical and humorous discussion on dividing our country based upon the 2004 election results, I just thought I would contribute to it, based upon those same elections results.


Gravatar Ok, I apologize.


Gravatar The three are planning a civil suit--through it they will learn the identity of the guy they are--they will include him in the suit as well. See today's Rocky Mountain News


Gravatar as a former denverite i have been following this case closely, and all i can say is, i'm not surprised.

i'm not sure that the denver three even know the identity of the guy who evicted them, thereby making it difficult to sue him.

and the point is, i believe, the white house and the colorado gop are deliberately refusing to identify the guy.


Gravatar new California, I loved it great story praise be unto you how clever you should send it to Air America or the daily show, dont think it would get much play time on FAUX


Gravatar dont u just luv bush's democracy or facism the nazi's would be proud


Gravatar Notice the county in California (near Navada) with 49% going to Kerry, and Kerry getting the county...

This means there are a lot of 3rd party supporters in that county. I think that's pretty cool.


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