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Of course that racist fuck is pleased bush has already said the government would rebuild his beach house.
mikeatuva | 09.03.05 - 2:17 pm | #

I sincerely think that this catastrophe will be Bush's legacy. Not 9/11 or Iraq. And Louisiana will turn into a blue state in the next election, as will other southern states.
Meredith | 09.03.05 - 2:18 pm | #

murka finally gets a taste of what it's like being on the receiving end of AWOL'S 'policies'. feel safer, red states? your boy hates you.

i cannot believe that darth cheyney has not arisen from his long sleep. did someone find his coffin and hammer a stake into his black, filthy heart? hope so. did he grunt a little when it went in?
WizCo | 09.03.05 - 2:24 pm | #

Remind all your Republican friends and family members that this is what they can expect in case of a 9-11 style terrorist attack.

Only a 5 or 6 day wait to get food and water while the Pres. and Co. eat cake and fiddle.
Ooops! | 09.03.05 - 2:24 pm | #

GOP sleezebags are circling their wagons but they know the truth, that this has been a fiasco of historic proportions. The BushCo nest of incompetance is being exposed and laid bare for everyone to see.

Superpower? The world's richest nation? Not if these thugs stay at the reins much longer.
Sgt. Hulka | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 2:27 pm | #

Did anyone notice that Lott flew in on a n army helicopter? I was worried they'd all be tied up evacating the sick and injured or bring food and water to the doomed. Thank God they're available to ferry VIPs around.
patriotboy | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 2:28 pm | #

I don't think this will change many Bush supporters minds. If the lies of Iraq didn't why would this? Don't get me wrong I wish they would wake up, I Just don't think it will happen. If your only information about the country comes from Fox, Rush, Hannity, and O'riley, how in the hell can you see the world as it actually is?
Andy F. | 09.03.05 - 2:31 pm | #

link not working
ph0en1x | 09.03.05 - 2:34 pm | #

just wait a bit after you click the link... it might start. Sigh... torrents... torrents...
Cowicide | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 2:36 pm | #

Is it possible to get a quicktime link please? I cannot get my WMP to work at all. Thank you and keep up the amazing work. Take care.
Jeff | 09.03.05 - 2:36 pm | #

Chertoff is on CNN giving a news conference and spinning like a top. He says that we are dealing with two catastrophe's not one and they were well prepared ahead of time and the prez was right on top of things by giving a state of emergency order early, blah, blah. What a load of crap. I heard the hospital ship won't leave Baltimore until Sunday. That's prepared???? The sad thing is all those kool-aid drinkers are going to eat this crap up and come out saying Bush is a hero. I hope all who are rescued and in Texas turn Texas into the bluest state ever. I HATE THIS PRESIDENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BNL | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 2:40 pm | #

All I can say is look here. This is the NO emergency management plan.

http://www.cityofno.com/portal.a...tal=46& tabid=26

Read the whole thing. Read the part about evacuations, and become educated.

As is clear from this web site, the local and state government FAILED miserably.
Jim B. | 09.03.05 - 2:41 pm | #

is there anyone who can at least post a transcript?
ph0en1x | 09.03.05 - 2:41 pm | #

WHERE WERE YOU MR. MAYOR NAGIN?!?!

WHY DID YOU FAIL TO FOLLOW YOUR OWN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PLAN?

YOU WILL BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THIS DERILICTION OF DUTY, MR. NAGIN!

YOU HAVE FAILED MR. NAGIN!
Jim B. | 09.03.05 - 2:43 pm | #

LOL. Yes, it was surely the mayor's fault he didn't use the city piggybank to prepare for a $25 billion dollar disaster.
Mazzy | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 2:46 pm | #

Are you seriously asking a poor ass city like New Orleans to be prepared for this kind of tragedy when funding has been cut for the war in Iraq? 78000 National guard have been federalized and are fighting for a foriegn govt when they could be here saving our own people. This is also a class issue many people just couldn't be evacuated for fear of looters or just due to the fact that they have no money to leave in the first place. We can't lay blame on just the mayor we need to blame the STATE the FEDS and OURSELVES for being short sighted and selfish asking for tax cuts that we don't need. If govt can't provide infrastructure and disaster relief then what are they good for?
ph0en1x | 09.03.05 - 2:47 pm | #

I don't think this will change many Bush supporters minds. If the lies of Iraq didn't why would this? Don't get me wrong I wish they would wake up, I Just don't think it will happen.

Unfortunately Andy I think you're right. People don't care unless they're directly affected.

FEMA is being privatized.

What George Bush did for FEMA he'll do to Social Security.

Don't let him do it!!!
nonbeliever | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 2:47 pm | #

Jim B. regardless who failed in evacuating those poor people, there is no excuse for this president to go to California and stump for social security in the midst of this disaster. Not to mention the absence of the VP and the shoe-shopping Condi Rice. The only reason Bush finally showed up in NO is because the outrage in the media over his absence.Then they trot out Laura and try to sound as if they give a shit. So what does Laura say, "It's not as bad on the ground as it looks on t.v." What the hell is that??? These people are incapable of leading this country because all they care about is themselves and rich contributors. Well, they deserve whatever they get and I hope its eternity in hell!
BNL | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 2:48 pm | #

How many divisions does the Mayor command?

Fuck your RNC talking points.
patriotboy | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 2:49 pm | #

Here is a mirror of the Cooper interview:

http://mire.sitesled.com/Anderso...ott- Katrina.wmv
Mazzy | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 2:51 pm | #

naw, i don't think so. I think if clinton was the 'teflon' president, bush is the 'reverse magnet' president.

what*ever* criticism comes his way not only doesn't stick, it reverses course and clings and does damage to the one voicing it.

it happens time and time again, and it's already happening now.

katrina's cat4 winds'll pale in comparison with the gale-force pilloring of the dem gov of La. and mayor of new orleans.

Elaine Chao, secretary of the dept of labor, was just on cnn this morning saying that the federal government has been working wonderfully (!) with governor barbour [of mississippi].

the implication is loud, clear, damning and sinister.

and it's exactly what mike brown has been doing throughout this whole ordeal. every time, when discussing those still trapped in new orleans, he *always* qualifies any remark concerning refugees by referring to those who *chose* to remain behind.

again, the implication is loud.

and so it goes, with everyone in this administration...le's not even mention fox'news' and the am radio crowd.

i'm telling you, this will be barely a smudge on bush's, and the repub's, reputation but rather either be *entirely* blanco's fault, or nagin's, or the state's.

AND don't think the religious right won't pounce on this like nobody's business in an effort to damn their enemies to everlasting hell while giving praise to g*d for the opportunity for even more air time.
ken | 09.03.05 - 2:55 pm | #

THANK YOU MAZZY!
ph0en1x | 09.03.05 - 2:55 pm | #

We should bus all the evacuees with nowhere to go to the White house maybe then they'll deal with the reality that's happening.
ph0en1x | 09.03.05 - 2:57 pm | #

► Jim B., you are full of shit, part of the plan is here: http://www.cityofno.com/portal.a...tal=46& tabid=26

Your link to the govt.'s site proves NOTHING anyway. No state has it's entire internal planning online for everyone (including terrorists) to see.

Go crawl back into your blind, conservative cave.
Cowicide | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 2:58 pm | #

Jim B.

From Kos and from the FEMA charter.

In the event of a terrorist attack, natural disaster or other large-scale emergency, the Department of Homeland Security will assume primary responsibility on March 1st for ensuring that emergency response professionals are prepared for any situation. This will entail providing a coordinated, comprehensive federal response to any large-scale crisis and mounting a swift and effective recovery effort. The new Department will also prioritize the important issue of citizen preparedness. Educating America's families on how best to prepare their homes for a disaster and tips for citizens on how to respond in a crisis will be given special attention at DHS.

All talk... no action.
Blaze | 09.03.05 - 2:59 pm | #

The REPUKES in power have once again illustrated in colossal fashion the mumbling, bumbling and stumbling, Keystone Kops expertise only they can possess.

No doubt the GOP sleezebags have attempted to circle the wagons but the WORLD knows the truth. This has been a fiasco of historic proportions and it lies solely at the feet of his highness, King George. Bush, "The Finger" Cheney and Condi all vacationed as New Orleans sank into total despair. Let's not let them off the hook people. This administration is the most corrupt and inept in modern history.
gfm975 | 09.03.05 - 2:59 pm | #

Phoenix, no problem :^)

Trent Lott is a liar. Listen at the 6:00 mark. Cooper asked if part of the problem could be the fact that half of the Nat'l Guard was in Iraq. The fool's reply was: "Only the news media is asking that question."

BULLSHIT!!!!

What a fucking liar.
Mazzy | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 3:01 pm | #

Two things amaze me about these posts.

1. How brimming with hate the liberals are. Any and every event is an excuse to demonize Bush (who ironically is the most effective liberal since LBJ. He is not conservative)

2. How utterly and tragically New Orleans city government FAILED. I agree with Jim B.
smiley | 09.03.05 - 3:02 pm | #

► Hey Blaze, I like this part of the FEMA charter, "...mounting a swift and effective recovery effort..."
Cowicide | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 3:02 pm | #

Remember folks, this isn't a time for complaining...
Anyone else wondering if Cheney's secret crypt was in New Orleans?
Betty | 09.03.05 - 3:03 pm | #

Lets put survivors at the Crawford Ranch and the White House. Bush can live on Air Force One while he is still president which we need to make sure isnt much longer.
mikeatuva | 09.03.05 - 3:03 pm | #

Jim B.

don't pay any attention to this rnc sperm bank. he is trying to muddy the waters faux news style. don't let those murderous fascist scumbags get us off topic. thats what those inbred mo'fuckas have been using to steal the vote. ignore him he can't be converted.
goserve.com | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 3:03 pm | #

........actually all these trolls that come in here may even be paid operatives trading on the same names such as 2 or more cockroaches huddled around their keyboard like the keyboard brigade they are.
goserve.com | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 3:06 pm | #

► "smiley", how can you live with yourself? Even Bush has admitted FAILURE in this. GET IT?! EVEN BUSH ADMITS THIS. You aren't even in goose-step with your leader anymore because of your blind ideology! This was a MAJOR federal blunder and guess who is in charge of federal matters? Bush. I'm an independent moderate and I can goddamn guarantee you I would be just as livid if this horrifically slow response came from a democratic leader like Clinton, etc. The REALITY is... right now, Bush is responsible for this federal disaster. You can keep trying to excuse the inexcusable but all you do is further enrage and solidify the liberal & moderate base against conservatives. You are a failure just like your monkey president.
Cowicide | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 3:09 pm | #

Yes, let's bitch about how hateful the liberals are. Oh, those hateful liberals! *sob*
Anne | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 3:10 pm | #

BNL,

The only reason Bush finally showed up in NO is because the outrage in the media over his absence.

Good lord. The reason he didn't show up for several days is so that he wouldn't impart undue stress on local law enforcement.

Had he flown in there he would have needed a security detail. Not to mention, you people would be screaming about how he is flying around in a helicopter that could be used for helping victims instead.
Jim B. | 09.03.05 - 3:16 pm | #

The sad thing is those trolls just don't care what happens to the rest of the country as long as their guy wins. They act as if running the country is like a sports game or something. They truly are the ones who hate America. They only think of themselves and don't care about the poor or unemployed. As long as they have their big 'ol SUV's and Hummers that is all that matters. It's a sad thing. And then they say they care about life? What a joke! If all those people in NOLA were fetus' or brain dead they would be all over the place trying to "save" them.
BNL | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 3:18 pm | #

► Jim B., how can you live with yourself? Even Bush has admitted FAILURE in this. GET IT?! EVEN BUSH ADMITS THIS. You aren't even in goose-step with your leader anymore because of your blind ideology! This was a MAJOR federal blunder and guess who is in charge of federal matters? Bush. I'm an independent moderate and I can goddamn guarantee you I would be just as livid if this horrifically slow response came from a democratic leader like Clinton, etc. The REALITY is... right now, Bush is responsible for this slow federal response to this disaster. You can keep trying to excuse the inexcusable but all you do is further enrage and solidify the liberal & moderate base against conservatives. You are a failure just like your monkey president.
Cowicide | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 3:20 pm | #

Just listened to the Cooper interview with Trent Lott... What an incredible traitor to the people of Mississippi that guy is.
a guy in cA | 09.03.05 - 3:21 pm | #

Last night I was walking through my dark house and stubbed my toe...damn Bush, it's his fault.

Most of these posts make me sick. Yes, there was colossal failings at every level of government...but where was everyone else? Why weren't Jesse and Al down there beforehand telling their people to get out. Why weren't they helping organize transport out?

So easy to criticize after the fact.

So many of you complaining about the lack of funds / troops / food...etc. Can't you see the logistical nightmare of trying to organize search-and-rescue and relief efforts in such a devastated area? We could have all our brave Iraqi liberators here at home and the number of people able to fly in and help would have been close to the same. The infrastructure was destroyed. How can you get 10,000 troops/guardsmen in any faster?

Yes, it is horrible. But realize that N.O. has known that their levees could only weather a Cat3 storm for decades. Last time I looked, every politician over the past 20 years has not been a Republican.
Neo | 09.03.05 - 3:22 pm | #

They can't even take care of their own Federal employees!

Read this heartbreaking article from WaPo:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp...5090202273.html

"Picou and Eddy backtracked to Annunciation Street. Picou, who works for the U.S. Department of Agriculture, stared warily at the looming Convention Center, a quarter-mile away. She could not go back. Inside, there was darkness, filth and debilitating rumors that help was on the way. The buses were always on the way."

But hey, no time for complaining. Not when a hard-working citizen trying to take care of her grandson under horrible conditions is out on the street trying to get someplace safe, sir!
JillK. | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 3:23 pm | #

I don't think liberals are hateful complainers. I think we are just so fed up with this administration failing us when it just slaps you in the face and people still have their head up their butts. This is more like anger and dispare watching us sink over and over and over.....
monkey | 09.03.05 - 3:24 pm | #

I have family members that think like Jim B. and Smiley...it'll drive you insane trying to reason with them. Guys like this don't normally sound off unless they feel threatened or they know their in deep shit. Let them rant, it means were shifting the tide of American indifference.
Funkycolemadina | 09.03.05 - 3:24 pm | #

Your link to the govt.'s site proves NOTHING anyway.

Lol. From the New Orleans Emergency Management Plan, Annex I, entitled "HURRICANES":

"Conduct of an actual evacuation will be the responsibility of the Mayor of New Orleans"

"includes identifying the city's present population, its projected population, identification of at-risk populations"

"New Orleans will utilize all available resources to quickly and safely evacuate threatened areas."

"The timely issuance of evacuation orders critically impacts upon the successful evacuation of all citizens from high-risk areas"

Here is an ameture weather-blogger hysterically telling Mayor Nagin that he MUST evacuate the city as early as Friday. He specifically layed blame (before the hurricane even struck) on Nagin for FAILING to order his people out on time. He called the mayor of New Orleans an idiot and said thousands would die due to his incompetence.

http://brendanloy.com/ page2.html...511310874584823
Jim B. | 09.03.05 - 3:25 pm | #

heh heh heh well i finally got to admit them sum bitches are right im a clueless bastard but that cindy sheehan she ruined my vation ,i lost sleep thats part of the reason i didnt get on this till lots of people died aint that right rummy? absolutly right george , by god i beleive you found the perfect scape goat mr president its that bitches fault if she hadnt made such a fuss about you getting her boy killed youd be your old self , heh heh you four eyed febble minded ol fart of course im right, heh heh gfy as a reagan marine i pissed blood for my country regards bilgerman
Anonymous | 09.03.05 - 3:27 pm | #

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ katri..._national_guard
That article right there talks about Bill Richardson of New Mexico offering troops on Sunday night to help out in Lousiana. Washington held up the required paperwork until Thursday.

Same article also has Chuck Hagel complaining about the screw ups down there and saying as soon as people are safe questions are going to be asked. Repugs are starting to ask questions which it is needed!!!

Jamie
http://intoxination.blogspot.com
Jamie | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 3:28 pm | #

I'm glad GOP leaders are asking questions but why aren't more dems asking questions? When will we have a real opposing leader?
ph0en1x | 09.03.05 - 3:32 pm | #

Neo,

Yep, logistical nightmare. That's why it should have begun before the storm made landfall.. or the day the storm made landfall...or the day after the storm made landfall.

The failure is that it took four days to get significant aid to the area and so our fellow citizens suffered and died. That bothers us. We care about other people, even if we don't know them. And the hell in New Orleans is a just a fraction of the hell in the entire region. Other cities and towns also have gotten no aid. Many, many more boots and equipment should have been on the ground much earlier than they were. That's why we are angry. Sorry if that makes you sick. Perhaps you could blame Bush for that, also!

As for knowing ahead of time that a Cat 3 hurricane would be disasterous: that is why budget requests for levee repair and reinforcement were made over and over again - budget requests which were denied by this administration. Some projects are too big for state and cities to tackle. That's one of the essential roles of the Feds - to prevent and mitigate disasters of this magnitude.

As for expecting private citizens such as Jesse or Al to do what the Federal government is sworn to do: that's just laughable! When your home is on fire, you expect the fire department to help you out. When there is a huge natural disaster, we expect FEMA and the National Guard to help us out. That's why we pay taxes.

I agree with you: "...there was colossal failings at every level of government."
JillK. | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 3:37 pm | #

Mr Nagin:

WHY DID YOU DELAY THE MANDATORY EVACUATION ORDER UNTIL IT WAS TOO LATE?

WHY DID YOU FAIL TO FOLLOW YOUR OWN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PLAN?

THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, REPUBLICAN DEMOCRAT, BLACK, AND WHITE DEMAND TO KNOW:

DID YOU DELAY THE EVACUATION ON PURPOSE FOR POLITICAL REASONS?

DID YOU PURPOSELY TRAP THOUSANDS OF POOR BLACK PEOPLE IN THE CITY OF NEW ORLEANS, SO THAT YOU COULD STIR UP RACIAL TENSIONS FOR POLITICAL GAIN?

WE WANT TO KNOW MR. NAGIN. WE WANT TO KNOW NOW!
Jim B. | 09.03.05 - 3:37 pm | #

It's true... There will be plenty of time to complain. Now is the time for action and support.

There's a message board/support group for Katrina. www.katrinatalk.org Come over and give some support and get some, too.
crn | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 3:38 pm | #

dude we read it the first time quit blaming him it's not all his fault he has limited power Jim B look at the facts please. And please quit saying the same stuff over and over. There are answers you just don't want to hear them.
ph0en1x | 09.03.05 - 3:39 pm | #

> Lol. From the New Orleans Emergency
> Management Plan, Annex I, entitled
> "HURRICANES":
> "Conduct of an actual evacuation will be the
> responsibility of the Mayor of New Orleans"

Jim B. do you understand what that means? The REALITY is the Mayor contacted the Federal government to facilitate the massive evacuation that is beyond the means of the local government (which is exactly why the Federal govt. is SUPPOSED to facilitate at that point!). He did HIS JOB but the Federal govt. failed him. Have you read the FEMA charter yet, idiot?

In the event of a...natural disaster..., the Department of Homeland Security will assume primary responsibility...for ensuring that emergency response professionals are prepared for any situation. This will entail providing a coordinated, comprehensive federal response to any large-scale crisis and mounting a swift and effective recovery effort.

Jim B., you STAND CORRECTED.
Cowicide | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 3:46 pm | #

wel well bilgermans returned as jim b blames them liberal assholes says they wanted to start a race war jim itd be nice if thier was a god and if we could see you got to meet him soon but i guess well have to be satisfied knowing that some day you will die and this world will smell better with shit such as your self gone gfy regards god
Anonymous | 09.03.05 - 3:48 pm | #

American’s Want Answers to the Failures to Respond to Disaster in New Orleans
September 3rd, 2005
AP News reports that:

Bush had the legal authority to order the National Guard to the disaster area himself, as he did after the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks . But the troops four years ago were deployed for national security protection, and presidents of both parties traditionally defer to governors to deploy their own National Guardsmen and request help from other states when it comes to natural disasters.

In addition to Guard help, the federal government could have activated, but did not, a major air support plan under a pre-existing contract with airlines. The program, called Civilian Reserve Air Fleet, lets the government quickly put private cargo and passenger planes into service.

http://blog.thedemocraticdaily.c...aily.com/? p=418
Pamela | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 3:49 pm | #

Complain? No! Raise hell! By the way Trent Lott has a total of 3 homes.
Donald | 09.03.05 - 3:49 pm | #

ph0en1x

is something wrong with you and the others going beserk? scroll damnit

these trolls are not here to reason they are here to interfere and cast doubts.

just read and post your comments. otherwise don't fucking feed these pigs because all they do is come back for more.
goserve.com | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 3:50 pm | #

again

these trolls that come in here may even be paid operatives trading on the same names such as 2 or more cockroaches huddled around their keyboard like the keyboard brigade they are.
goserve.com | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 3:53 pm | #

Cowidice,

Bullshit. He contacted the federal government as the storm was striking. He should have contacted them on Wednesday, the week before to pre-coordinate. Then on Friday he should have told everyone to evacuate NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW. He should have screamed in a a mad panic at his press conference. By Sunday the roads would be clear enough to move NG in to evacuate the poor people.

Plus, why do you people insist that he only had a week to plan this? He had YEARS to plan.

During his press conference he should have told everyone to make sure they had AT LEAST 48 if not 72 hours of food and water, and to put it in a trash bag, and to keep it with them no matter what happened.

MAYOR NAGIN IS A FAILURE.
Jim B. | 09.03.05 - 3:54 pm | #

Cowidice

have you learnt your lesson not to argue with the inbred koolaid drinkers

the names may change but its the same apologists trying to muddy the waters and trying to cover for the great leader of the noble cause.

don't let them take you off topic
goserve.com | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 3:58 pm | #

Trent Lott is a total moron. I hope all Americans hear this asshole attack people for complaining. May he rot in hell!
Hassert was at a fundraiser
and Condi was shopping for shoes. These people do not care about America! They care about the money they can STEAL from America and along the way we can now see what job they have done to this country.

I'll BET MY LEFT NUT that as I write this they set up a war room to blame everyone but themselves.

Liberals are called many names for complaining about all this for many years. They are called Bush haters and Un-American. The fact of the matter is they are more American than any people I have met and they have been on target with exposing what the media wouldn't.

The media is also to blame. The liberals are the real heroes! They have come to the AID of the people. They have worked their asses off to stop what just happened. They are figting for the troops. The right wingers are playing fucking games and now we all suffer.

THIS IS THE TIME PEOPLE TO EXPOSE EVERYTHING!

When you wirte the newpapers about this be SURE to include one or two other things that this administration has done.

God bless all of you for your amazing support in these times!
Mark | 09.03.05 - 4:01 pm | #

your right goserve.com I know that these guys aren't real they're just people who most likely get paid for saying shit that isn't true. The reality on the ground on our TVs speaks for itself. All in all MAJOR FUCK UP on the FEDS watch. Hopefully the Dems will finally grow a pair and stand up in the face of this blatant neglect. If they act properly they may be able to take the congress in '06. By the way fuck Lott! He is a lying piece of shit! I hope he does go down there to the rubble and answer the questions straight from the people's mouths!
ph0en1x | 09.03.05 - 4:01 pm | #

I think the COMMANDER IN CHIEF shoulda maybe used some of his political capitol and executive authority to LEAD the response to the crisis - he didn't.

Trolls - under the bridge.
Patch | 09.03.05 - 4:04 pm | #

So many of you complaining about the lack of funds / troops / food...etc. Can't you see the logistical nightmare of trying to organize search-and-rescue and relief efforts in such a devastated area?

The point I think you're missing is that we're not complaining because the efforts are difficult and take time. We're mad as hell because those efforts didn't even start in any meaningful way until our emporer was forced to pay some attention. Not until we, the populace, sat in open-mouthed disbelief watching our fellow citizens, old people in wheelchairs and infants in their mothers' arms die of thirst on the streets of NO. I have no doubt that without some liberal outrage and the mayor's desparate and honest plea those people would still be sitting there waiting to die.

The proof is how quickly troops came in (and began doing what they should have been doing days earlier) once our government realized that the rest of us actually cared about those poor black people. I don't think they counted on that.
somewaterytart | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 4:05 pm | #

Fool,

I am not a kool-aid drinker. I have been arguing for a long time with right-wingers that the War in Iraq was a disaster, that the reasons for going were dubious, and that Bush was guilty of a near-impeachable crime for it.

I have also argued about the need to explore alternative energy, as well as fuel conservation. I've argued against SUVs, against ANWR drilling, and for improved fuel standards. I have argued that Bush's energy policies are a disaster.

*YOU* are the kool-aid drinkers. Everything that happens is Bush's fault.

You people will find reasons to attack Bush no matter what. The levees, the marshlands, the tax cuts, the racism, global warming, etc. etc. etc.

If Bush flys down in a helicopter you say its just for PR and say he doesn't care. You say he is wasting precious law enforcement resources. You say his helicopter should be rescuing people instead of carrying him around. You would scream that he should have stayed in DC.

But what if he doesn't fly down there? Then you start bitching about how detached he is. You say he obviously doesn't care and would rather stay in DC where it is cozy. You would say he doesn't comprehend the damage. You would scream for him to fly down there.

*YOU ARE THE KOOL-AID DRINKERS. WAKE UP*
Jim B. | 09.03.05 - 4:06 pm | #

The fucking Pukes wouldn't be here unless they knew they were fucked
Skip over their posts and don't feed them
Free America of Sunday Taliban | 09.03.05 - 4:07 pm | #

► goserve, you're right... I'll just ignore them until their IP's are banned from here. They obviously have an agenda to disrupt this board and absolutely refuse to put any blame whatsoever on the federal govt. for literally anything (which makes them highly suspect and irrelevant anyway).
Cowicide | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 4:07 pm | #

Ignore the troll Jim B. he's already been proved wrong over and over again. He's spinning so hard for his fellow neo cons his little pin head is going to fly into orbit...
Frumpycat | 09.03.05 - 4:07 pm | #

I love the conservatives who lurk around waiting to bitch about us bitching. "Liberty, man. Freedom USA Butthole Corps, man. Everything is hunky-fucking-dory!"
plantsman | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 4:10 pm | #

good

now continue reading and posting

g'day y'all
goserve.com | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 4:19 pm | #

You people are crazy if you think the South will start voting Democrat anytime soon. Look at Blanco and Nagin...they havent done a Damn thing but point fingers.
JOE | 09.03.05 - 4:26 pm | #

GW was hawking on behalf of the pharmaceutical companies while Babylon fell in NOLA ...

Strumming the guitar safe on the Marine base in San Diego the next day ... (Condi was laughing at some live lame ass Monte Python re-runs and shoe shopping)

W, "Nobody though the levees could break..."

W gets down and talks about Trent Lott's house and how he maybe partied too much a few times in NOLA and 'he's gonna get out of here in a minute.'

I wouldn't want to be trying to defend him, but some apologists must feel compelled to --- meanwhile, I am going to kick him while he's down - he's closer to my foot anyway.
Patch | 09.03.05 - 4:27 pm | #

Just found this on Americablog - from the Times-Picayune:

Three tons of food ready for delivery by air to refugees in St. Bernard Parish and on Algiers Point sat on the Crescent City Connection bridge Friday afternoon as air traffic was halted because of President Bush’s visit to New Orleans, officials said.

The provisions, secured by U.S. Rep. Charlie Melancon, D-Napoleonville, and state Agriculture Commissioner Bob Odom, baked in the afternoon sun as Bush surveyed damage across southeast Louisiana five days after Katrina made landfall as a Category 4 storm, said Melancon’s chief of staff, Casey O’Shea.

“We had arrangements to airlift food by helicopter to these folks, and now the food is sitting in trucks because they won’t let helicopters fly,” O’Shea said Friday afternoon.

The food was expected to be in the hands of storm survivors after the president left the devastated region Friday night, he said.
skysaxon | 09.03.05 - 4:28 pm | #

Jim B. and Smiley,

You're both full of shit.

Smiley, Bush is no liberal.

Both of you shitstains should go out, get an education and then come back when you're ready. The likelyhood of that happening is nil.

FOAD.
Kevin Simms | 09.03.05 - 4:31 pm | #

Jim B. -

Do you honestly believe the things you've said on here? Seriously. I'm really curious.
EconAtheist aka Duc Dork | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 4:37 pm | #

All right, here's another mirror:

http://mirefresco.sitesled.com . It's only got the Cooper/Lott video, the Geraldo/Shep video from last night, and the Kanye West clip, but it should help (for the half hour the server lasts, anyway).

By the way, I'm beginning to think JimB. and Smiley are the same person.
Mazzy | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 4:39 pm | #

The anti-logic of the koolaid brigade is going to become more and more desperate as days unfold. These mindless drones now find themselve's burning in the the heat of the midday sun with no place to hide and as the hot light shines down and makes clear that their koolaid was nothing more than a glass full of wingnut piss, they will heard praising the flavor of piss.
As much as you would like to show these piss-bloated ignoramuses the error of their ways...as much as you would like to help then ween off their piss-bingeing addiction by offering a refreshing glass of clarity...don't bother wasting your time.
They have succumb to a denial so deep that only the bullshit-flecked words of their great piss-pushing leader hold the key to their survival. And in the light of recent events I can't see much hope for their rescue, but that won't stop them from howling and screaming out loud their piss-induced nonsense while scavenging about for another blessed drop of piss.
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mulefly | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 4:41 pm | #

I'm sure Jim B. would agree it was also the building managers fault that the twin towers were hit by terrorists. Right Jimmmmmmmmm? Am I learning how to spin?
Officer Not-So-Friendly | 09.03.05 - 4:43 pm | #

Lott gave us an opening, he said a day or two or a week from now is the time to complain and that he'll be the first to complain. The rest of us know there are literally hundreds of things to complain about so one week from now if Lott hasn't publicly complained about the failures in federal, state and local governments to act in time he needs to be outed as a liar and a panderer. My letter is already written.
Fred F. | 09.03.05 - 4:43 pm | #

PULL YOURSELF UP BY YOR BOOTSTRAPS

Along with the water and garbage bag, I shall strap to my back my 82 year old wheelchair bound mother. She can put the water on her lap. I shall then put my 2 children in one arm, (my husband is in Iraq) wrap my dog in rope and put that rope between my teeth. I shall leave my other arm free so that I can push aside the debris and the dead bodies floating by me as I resolutely walk through calf, thigh and chest high water that is filled with known and unknown items. (that I am pushing away with my free limb) for X miles to get to X. I do all this with 4 herniated discs that I received as a result of my carelessness at work. I was standing on a platform doing my job (S&R) and the platform collapsed I guess I should have telecomunicated. My car by the way was at the mechanics for yearly inspection. I went to get it out on Saturday but the mechanic had fled. Yep, in my car.
I called my uncle (he has a private corporate jet) but he could not come and get us, no permission to land.
Tried to rent a car, none left. I did see a big SUV leaving and when I asked for a ride to where ever, the driver said no, the back seat was filled with his clothes and knickknacks from his house. I offered him the 300.00 I had He grabbed it from my hand (the one the free limb is attached to)and he shut the door and took off. Now, when I reached the French Quarter I went to the Hilton. No rooms. I did have a credit card left but the manager was busy getting the guests out. I then made my way to the convention center.
There was a criminal element there (just like anywhere). They had privatized all the water and food supply. Some were running around with guns and raping woman and children and stealing from people just seeking shelter. Others, were shooting at anything, moving or still. I believe they were the addicts coming down from a high and no where to get a fix. I am at my wits end. It has begun to rain. I admit it is all my fault. I am an utter failure. I deserve what I get.
My great-great- great- great parents should never have settled here. Although I do know we had working levees in 1729.
andrea | 09.03.05 - 4:44 pm | #

Jim B and Smiley, serving in the internets war is not enough. Your Leader needs you in Iraq. Why aren't you there?
patriotboy | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 4:47 pm | #

Jim B and Smiley,

Kevin just called you two shitstains but he's way too kind. Shitstains can be washed away but stupidity like yours is beyond help and hope.

Then again, you're both typical GOP Chickenhawks.
Sgt. Hulka | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 4:51 pm | #

I'M PROUD TO BE A HATEFUL LIBERAL COMPLAINER BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT THE LOW LIFE REPUGS WOULD BE DOING IF IT HAPPENED ON CLINTONS WATCH,REMEMBER KOSOVO THEY TRIED TO BARBEQUE CLINTON OVER THAT ONE ,LET'S SEE NO DEAD AMERICANS THERE ,I'M SURE BUSH WOULD HAVE HAD THE SAME AFFECT THERE.THIS THING IN NEW ORLEANS IS THE TOTAL RESPONSIBILITY OF THE REPUGS UNFORTUNATE FISCAL POLICY ,WHICH IS GIANT TAX BREAKS FOR OBSENELY WEALTHY PEOPLE ,GUTTING ALL GOVERNMENT AGENCIES ,DESTROYING ALL THESE AGENCIES EFFECTIVENESS,STAND BACK AFTER THE DISASTER AND BLAME IT ON THE NEAREST DEM. EVEN IN IRAQ THERE VERY OWN HALLIBURTON WAR,IS KNOW BEING BLAMED ON CLINTON ,FUNNY HOW THE SHRUB HAS ALREADY ASKED POPPY AND CLINTON TO PULL HIS FEET OUT OF THE FIRE ON THIS ONE .REMEMBER TO DONATE IF YOU HAVE A JOB.
rb,bushisaliar | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 4:56 pm | #

► Yeah! I would like to know too... why isn't Jim B. and Smiley in Iraq fighting for the noble cause? Hmmm??? Hahaha... CHICKENhawks.
Cowicide | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 4:57 pm | #

link not working. it says it can't be found....urgh. i would love to see it being from new orleans and all. is it somewhere else on the web?
brandi hudson | 09.03.05 - 5:01 pm | #

There has not been one single solitary "white" representative for the Democratic Party to be seen seen anywhere. Where the hell is Pelosi, Reid, Kerry, Kennedy, Biden...oops I forgot the DINO named Joe-mentum Lieberman came out from under his rock...but anyway, where the hell are the Democrats?!!! Imagine if Bill Clinton or Al Gore were responsible for this fiasco? Would Newt and the whole gang be pulling punches? Holty sh*t! This exposes once and for all the complete moral bankruptcy of both parties and the establishment in Washington in general. What a shameful and dark chapter in American history. Despicable politicians! And what about all the Americans watching football and tennis and whatever. Unbelievable.
1human1vote | 09.03.05 - 5:01 pm | #

remember the machine never stops spinning.
frank luntz is busy coming up with catchy terms, phrases and villians to use to fool the vulnerable minds out there. don't contribute to the bullshit by entertaining them here. let them post but don't respond because they are paid shills.
think of yourselves as guineapigs testing their latest talking points for your reactions.

now read and post
goserve.com | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 5:02 pm | #

please lets not talk about ultra right wing extremist joey boy lieberman here. this board does not deserve to deal with such filth
goserve.com | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 5:05 pm | #

Got to love the way Anderson never let Lott take jabs at the media and let it be at that. I love the way he interupted him and told him that was not true.

I can't believe anyone can defend Bush on this.

Do all of you feel safe if this country was attacked? Well guess what?It was! Attacked by a hurricane. Do you feel safer with Bush at the helm?

He won the last election over fear with Kerry being predident. Well, he could not have done any worse than Bush did.

A lot of people are to blame for this. Some of the trolls are trying to devert attention away from bush and on other people. Yes, everyone is to blame, but Bush is responsibile as well. The blaming others has worked up until now. The media won't let him do anymore. So trolls, keep trying to devert. Does not change anything. Bush dropped the ball big time.

Lott said now is not the time to point fingers. Yes it is. We can chew gum and talk at the same time. He is hoping that we shut up and once everything is better in NO the nation will forget this the incompetance of Bush and his administration. It won't work. These are Americans, not third world people.
RLG | 09.03.05 - 5:12 pm | #

Econ,

Yes.

Officer,

That is a bullshit straw-man argument. New Orleans is below sea level and surrounded by water on all sides. The local government has known about this exact disaster for years. Is it too much to fucking ask that they prepare their citizens by spending a few dollars to keep a couple of gallons of water and non-perishable food around?!?!

And don't give me this "but they black an po" bullshit. I know that. But how expensive is a gallon or two of bottled water? How expesive are four packs of dried nuts and fruits? It is *YOUR* mentality that is responsible for this disaster. Your mentality tells them "Do nothing for yourself. Do not try to protect yourself in any way. Don't make even the *least* bit effort to save your own life. $5 is too much to pay to save your own life. Big government will take care of you. And if they don't, its because they are racists. Kill whitey!"

Cowidice,

I already said the Iraq War was a mistake and Bush was responsible for it.
Anonymous | 09.03.05 - 5:15 pm | #

Gosh dagnit. Last comment was Jim B.
Jim B. | 09.03.05 - 5:19 pm | #

yada yada yada...............
goserve.com | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 5:21 pm | #

One more question. What would all you people be saying if the mayor of New Orleans had been white?

*YOU* ARE THE RASCIST ONES!!!

*YOU* ARE THE MOST DISGUSTING, REPUGNANT SCUM ON EARTH TO USE THE DEATHS OF THOUSANDS OF POOR BLACK PEOPLE FOR POLITICAL GAIN!!!
Jim B. | 09.03.05 - 5:23 pm | #

yada yada yada....

Thats right goserv. YADA YADA YADA. You know I am right. You know the mayor's failure is indefensible. And you know that youre racist excuses are also indefensible.

Meanwhile, poor black people are dying due to your racism and due to the failure, *THE ABJECT FAILURE*, of their DEMOCRATIC state and local leadership.

I wanna puke right now.
Jim B. | 09.03.05 - 5:26 pm | #

► Why is the " Jim B." IP not banned yet? We look forward to this troll's disappearance from here.
Cowicide | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 5:29 pm | #

Ok help me out here... National Hurricane center knew that by Friday 2 PM "...Katrina could become a category three or major hurricane by Saturday" and it was er... edging Westward. National Hurricane Center computer is hooked into FEMA ok? Now, according to to the Louisana Homeland Security Emergency Preparedness site under the Fed. Response Plan pg. 308 - after the PRESIDENT 'declares' a Major Disaster or Emergency (say Sat 27th Aug.) doesn't that kick into gear the DHS responsiblity immediately before even LA Gov sends in a 'backup' plea asking for help. I don't know but all this inaction sounds a bit fishy to me...

http://www.ohsep.louisiana.gov/p.../ plansindex.htm
SandThroughTheEyeGlass | 09.03.05 - 5:30 pm | #

Jim B, I don't think you heard me the first time. I guess your ears are too full of Bushit.

FOAD.
Kevin Simms | 09.03.05 - 5:30 pm | #

I wanna puke right now.
Jim B.
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So go fuckin' puke already, and get it all out so you don't hafta bother us with your inane dry heaves. You're a shallow factfixing asshole who's writing a bunch of anti-logic bullshit that isn't gonna make any sense to anbody but a fuckwit like yourself.
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mulefly | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 5:36 pm | #

did some tryout asshole for jimmy/jeff just post a comment about me?

i thought i saw something referred to me but i don't pay attention to shills.
goserve.com | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 5:41 pm | #

I think its clear, the mayor and governor need to resign. Bush got down there and started squaring things away.

32,000 soldiers now in New Orleans and they're bagging savages right and left.

Coast guard has rescued over 10,000 people this week. Its a disaster, they aren't supposed to be pleasant. Savages running around like apes raping and killing people weren't helping matters much either.
JK | 09.03.05 - 5:43 pm | #

Please do not ban Jim B., his silly comments makes me laugh all day long. I'm just laughing right now thinking that the prick probably feels important when he is writing his silliness, ha,ha,ha, I can't help it but I'm laughing so hard at the shit that he writes.
bush tossed my salad | 09.03.05 - 5:44 pm | #

Bush request that New Orleans be evacuated. Nagin and Blanco issue a mandatory evacuation. What did they do help their poor residents get out of town. City transit, school buses...thats an idea. How is that 1/3 of the population stayed behind. Nagin is the one who failed New Orleans. What plan did Nagin have for this kind of event. He knew it could happen....why not have enough MRE's for this kind of event. There is plenty of blame to go around.
BTW...Word is the Astrodome is now trashed...I guess these people cant clean up after themselves.
JOE | 09.03.05 - 5:47 pm | #

this must be the evening shift fresh from a frank luntz talking points seminar.

my fellow bloggers, they have agreed the mayor is the villian.

so may we now ignore them till they wear themselves out and their tough marine loverboy comes to rescue them

scroll the trolls
goserve.com | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 5:51 pm | #

It sucks being in the MINORITY. Loosing election after election must suck as well.

Quit looking for new ways to criticize and come up with an agenda.
JOE | 09.03.05 - 5:54 pm | #

Here is a dose of common sense

1. I live in a city that is below sea level.

2. I am surrounded by water on three sides.

3. The only thing preventing me from being part of the Gulf of Mexico right now are man-made concrete walls.

4. I know that the most powerful hurricane in perhaps decades is coming in for a direct hit on New Orleans.

5. I have had a week's warning.

6. The mayor told everyone to evacuate.

Conclusions

a. I should leave.

b. If I can't then I should get to a shelter.

c. If I can't then I should buy a weeks worth of food and water.

d. I should have bought these supplies years ago in anticipation, but I was either too lazy or too complacent to spend $10 to save my own life.

So

The reason why these obvious conclusions were not drawn is because of the mindset of entrenched government dependency, brought about by years of Democrat rule. Yes, I said rule. I said rule, because the Democrats treat their constituents as pathetic fools to be ruled over and used only when it is convenient for political gain. What did the mayor or governor of Louisiana ever do for the poor black people in New Orleans? Nothing! Their crocodile tears and contrived false concern are showing themselves now, ONLY because it helps them score political points. Its just disgusting.
Jim B. | 09.03.05 - 5:59 pm | #

no joe what sucks is getting beat by rigged voteing machines you stupid asshole kiss your turd buddy bushes ass good by gfy regards bilgerman i was a reagan marine i pissed blood for my country
Anonymous | 09.03.05 - 6:00 pm | #

ha,ha,ha,ha this shit is so funny, keep writing Jim B. You must be Jim (B)ubbles the clown.
bush tossed my salad | 09.03.05 - 6:03 pm | #

and the funny thing about it. these paid shills here diligently posting the commands of their bosses don't realize they aren't even pawns on the great leaders table.

that would be thinking highly of yourselves. y'all expendable mo'fuckas. never forget that. he is gonna fuck up your miserable lives if he hasn't already.

the same knofe that sticks sheep stick goat

so when the few dollars you got from bushco runs out for pounding your keyboard keep waiting for that dinner invite when the hunger kicks in. dumasses

scroll the trolls
goserve.com | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 6:04 pm | #

Actually here is a revision:

Here is a dose of common sense

1. I live in a city that is below sea level.

2. I am surrounded by water on three sides.

3. The only thing preventing me from being part of the Gulf of Mexico right now are man-made concrete walls.

4. I know that the most powerful hurricane in perhaps decades is coming in for a direct hit on New Orleans.

5. I have had a week's warning.

6. The mayor told everyone to evacuate.

7. George Bush has been a total fuckup for the past five years. Every he's done has caused thousands of people to die.

8. George Bush heavily cut funding for levee construction and marshland protection.

9. My Democrat leadership have been telling me for years George Bush doesn't give a damn about me, and he only cares about the rich.

Conclusions

a. I should leave.

b. If I can't then I should get to a shelter.

c. If I can't then I should buy a weeks worth of food and water.

d. I should have bought these supplies years ago in anticipation, but I was either too lazy or too complacent to spend $10 to save my own life.

e. I should not rely on George Bush to save my life.

So

The reason why these obvious conclusions were not drawn is because of the mindset of entrenched government dependency, brought about by years of Democrat rule. Yes, I said rule. I said rule, because the Democrats treat their constituents as pathetic fools to be ruled over and used only when it is convenient for political gain. What did the mayor or governor of Louisiana ever do for the poor black people in New Orleans? Nothing! Their crocodile tears and contrived false concern are showing themselves now, ONLY because it helps them score political points. Its just disgusting.
Jim B. | 09.03.05 - 6:05 pm | #

jackson

you know the drill man leave those animals to jimmy/jeff. he is their pimp
goserve.com | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 6:07 pm | #

Jim (B)ubbles the clown , thats FUNNY SHIT
Anorexia coulter | 09.03.05 - 6:07 pm | #

i got paid for this spins and i'm a faggot chickenhawk
jim B. | 09.03.05 - 6:09 pm | #

jackson

if you have not realized, the mayor was agreed upon to be the bad guy at the rnc upon the advice of luntz the senior repub spinner of talking points

now just scroll the trolls man
goserve.com | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 6:09 pm | #

Jim Bubbles the clown, stop it you are killing me.
bush tossed my salad | 09.03.05 - 6:09 pm | #

Perhaps its a little cold blooded, but can anyone find a single fault in what I posted?

(Make sure you look at the revised posting, not the original one)
Jim B. | 09.03.05 - 6:10 pm | #

Jim B...ubbles , dont worry both of them are hilarious.
bush tossed my salad | 09.03.05 - 6:12 pm | #

JOE tut tut... You should know by now that King George's proclamations from his throne e.g. you shall evacuate now.. is pretty weak.. Now, let's put our heads together - How many poor people are in NO and how many hours are there in the day? Can you see a problem emerging? Let's throw in a few variables, e.g. poor people having no money at the end of the month, no car, no gas, elderly and disabled relatives with mobility issues - Now, the Mayor is just one person - do you really expect with all the other v. important coordination duties he has to do (BTW Joe, that doesn't include him playing the guitar, having a golfing session, going to a birthday party or chow downing some cake) like mobilization the police, coordinating with the Red Cross and contact regional FEMA (we wish) that he should have been knocking on peoples doors with an army of brightly colored yellow taxis? Notwithstanding the fact that the roads out of NO being completely blocked. Now now Joe, you mentioned something about a plan - 'the plan' Joe in actually in your posting - The Astrodome which is considered high ground - so I'm thinking it was a pretty good idea to use it as an 'emergency' evacuation place - don't you. However, not to be used a camping ground - but maybe that was King Georges idea? Now an 'emergency' evacation place you would think is where people can be transferred - and if you have had your WHOLE CITY DESTROYED with all the buses under water - don't you think help would come from outside? OH - I don't know - maybe the Federal Emergency people with lots of water and food and medicine 'on call' to go anywhere in the country to help a disaster it knew was coming Friday 27th Aug? But, yes Joe - "WHO KNEW"?
SandThroughTheEyeGlass | 09.03.05 - 6:13 pm | #

Don't any of you get the feeling that buthole JIM B, Bill Clinton (not the real form president), reality are the same shit head. Please stop responding to that jeck!!!!

I like reading the thoughtful post and honest debate, I just skip over the posts by the jerks. Besides JIM B it's Saturday shouldn't you be sitting on the front step of your trailor in the old trailor park trying to decide to fuck your sister or burn a cross on my front yard???
kgk | 09.03.05 - 6:13 pm | #

heh heh heh see dick i told you them retards i got working for me would be on crooks and liars!!! sum bitches want to blame all this shit on me its that dam cindy sheehans fault dam the bitch wanting to know what nobel cause her son bought the big one for!!! isnt that right dick ehh whats that you say you moron ? heh heh dick your a grate kidder!! well dick who can i blame for all this crap? well we have the bastards who let thier selfs get caught in new orleans or how about that rubber necked bastard you made as head of fema heh heh eny one else ?well like you said cindy kept you awake the whole five weeks of your vacation dam strait sleepless nights righyheh heh gfy regards bilgerman i got it! ok but its just the same things your dick lickers are saying on crooks and liars!!! heh heh
Anonymous | 09.03.05 - 6:18 pm | #

kgk,

Lol. Here it comes again. I'm a racist because I don't agree with you?

Well you know what? You're a traitor because you don't agree with me! Ha, there, I gotcha!

Wheeeee!
Jim B. | 09.03.05 - 6:19 pm | #

China evacuates 790,000 as typhoon slams into coast
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China evacuated more than 790,000 people as powerful Typhoon Talim slammed into its east coast yesterday after barrelling across Taiwan, where it left three dead and dozens injured.

Compare this headline to the dire warning of 10,000 U. S. citizens being the final toll of hurricane Katrina.

Is it possible for citizens to trade leaders? Do you think we could convince the Chinese citizenry to trade Bush for their leader? We could destroy their country from the inside.
realtime | 09.03.05 - 6:20 pm | #

kgk brother, leave Jim B....ubbles alone, he makes my day. btw reruns of seinfeld or reading his silly posts, I pick reading his funny thoughts. DOnt you think is funny the amount of time he takes to write all this nonsense is time he could spend banging the girl in the next trailer (his sister)
bush tossed my salad | 09.03.05 - 6:20 pm | #

he/they fucked her already this mawnin'
goserve.com | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 6:20 pm | #

Jim B go chew some tobacco
bush tossed my salad | 09.03.05 - 6:22 pm | #

heh heh was you talking about your sister tard or your mother?????gfy regards bilgerman
Anonymous | 09.03.05 - 6:23 pm | #

Huh?
Jim B. | 09.03.05 - 6:24 pm | #

i guess this must be the evening shift of the keyboard combat brigade.

the funds paying you followers of the great leader for spinning the blogs would have been better spent on fema. this is our tax dollars at work, i guess they paid you wingnuts under the clear skies initiative.

clearly clueless crumb from rove's ass
goserve.com | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 6:26 pm | #

Dear Neo, The last 20 years have not had any repugs as president?????? Lets see Reagan remember him????? Bush Sr remember him????? You should because Bush Jr has the same idiots running the country that his daddie and Reagan did. The same selfish, war mongers who steal 9 billion dollars from Iraq, still unaccounted for today. Thats your money to Neo or you just don't really care because you got that $500 tax cut or are you the one that gets the $250.000 dollar tax cut or maybe better????? By the way Bush said they did'nt know the dikes would break, I guess he was too high that day or maybe cuttin wood.
Michigander | 09.03.05 - 6:28 pm | #

Trent Lott is a shit-stain. Its unfortunate he wasnt at home when the hurricane came.

When he finally dies of brain cancer he will go down to the pit of hell. ONly then will he stop shilling for the GOP.
bubba | 09.03.05 - 6:28 pm | #

Realtime,

Thats BS. The city of New Orleans proper has about 480,000 people, but once you include the suburbs its 1.3 million. Over 1 million people were evacuated.

The phrase "were evacuated" doesn't necessarily mean that a bunch of guys in uniform come and put you in a giant green truck and drive away.
Jim B. | 09.03.05 - 6:29 pm | #

Nah...I don't think these wingnut glory-holes are gettin' direct orders for this bullshit 'cuz if they are, their commander is a fuckin' idiot for sending them into a loosing battle; they're not gonna make any headway in this part of town. These fuckwits are just trying to hang onto any bit of dignity left that they can possibly muster up.
Their loveboat of incestuous gladhanding is sinking and they can't let go of Cap'n Tastyshit's ballsack long enough to find a way to jump ship.
Adios, Motherfuckers.
mulefly | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 6:32 pm | #

ha,ha,ha
bush tossed my salad | 09.03.05 - 6:32 pm | #

It is much worse than I said. 42 dead. The trade still goes.

Death Toll in China Typhoon Rises to 42
By VOA News
03 September 2005

China has raised the death toll from Typhoon Talim to at least 42.

The storm brought heavy rain and winds of up to 125 kilometers per hour Friday. The rain triggered landslides in the eastern part of China's Zhejiang province. Several people are also missing.

In one incident, nine people were buried alive when a mudslide crushed their houses in the city of Wenzhou. A father and son were killed when their house collapsed in the province of Fujian.

In Taiwan, the storm killed at least two people and injured dozens.

Talim eventually weakened as it blew inland over China.
realtime | 09.03.05 - 6:33 pm | #

ha,ha,ha, Jim B...ubbles you are a funny mofo.
bush tossed my salad | 09.03.05 - 6:34 pm | #

Lets send some 100,000 chicken lomein to help china
dick heartless chenney | 09.03.05 - 6:35 pm | #

Hey Jim B., thought your commments were a hoot and back at you cause Bush knew since thursday there was a catagory 4 or 5 coming too NO. HHMMMMM maybe he was to concerned about golf, no fishin, no reading that book, (ha, like he reads) eatin cake with Mccain, playing that guitar, driving past Sheehan to go to the next 2 million dollar fundraiser. What will it take for you neocons to ADMIT that BUSH fucked up????? Lets see 10,000 plus dead or a blow job??? 1862+ dead soliders in Iraq not counting Afghanistan ( the forgotten war we are LOOSING) Who gives a shit right, BECAUSE, "I'VE GOT MINE!!!!!". You win for having that typical Bush mentality of the day.
Michigander | 09.03.05 - 6:37 pm | #

► Jim B. is a troll trying to disrupt this message board & website. Please ignore him until his computer is banned from connecting to this message board website. Thanks.
Cowicide | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 6:38 pm | #

Sand....So you believe the State and Local officials have no responsibilities. The governor is quoted as saying that Pres. Bush pleaded with her to order an evacuation. Every major American city should have emergency supplies for events like this. The federal government cant do everything for everyone.
JOE | 09.03.05 - 6:39 pm | #

i beg to disagree. they are sent by the same idiots who believed that shiites and sunnis actually got along.
all over the muslim world that is true and in the most volatile country of the middle east they didnt see this coming.
its the same idiots who didn't know terrorists could fly planes into buildings.

i will agree they are desperate and it just shows in the garbage the 4 or 5 of them huddled around the keyboard are churning out.
goserve.com | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 6:43 pm | #

*ANYPLACE* in the country is liable to suffer from a disaster. To blame the victims for living there is to blame them for living. It's that simple. If you think that the citizens of New Orleans should have left the city because something bad might happen, you would have to advocate that all citizens of every city should leave. LA and San Fran have earthquake risk. Seattle and Portland, OR have volcano risk. Any city in the midwest has tornado risk. Any city on the east coast has severe storm risk. Cities in the Southwest have heat wave/drought risk ...and flash flood risks to boot. No place is safe. Quit blaming the victims!

Please keep in mind that the magnitude of the disaster which might strike your community might just make your personal stockpiles of food and water inaccessible or inadequate.

Our responsibility as a nation is to help those who are harmed when the worse happens. Basic decency and obligation to the idea of civilization demand it.
JillK. | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 6:44 pm | #

Michigander

scroll the trolls man
goserve.com | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 6:45 pm | #

JOE, just 2 questions. My family's security depends on my city's mayor alone? If my mayor is negligent that means I'm fucked?
So then lets get rid of the national guard, army, national security and just reinforce my local city police.
dick heartless chenney | 09.03.05 - 6:45 pm | #

Cowidice,

What makes me a troll? The fact that I disagree? So much for free speech and diversity of opinion. Doesn't it strike you as a bit stalinist to ban me for expressing valid opinions?

Here is an article on cnn that talks about the exercise that FEMA ran in 2004.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS...rill/ index.html

Notice at the bottom:

"But one of the drill participants, Col. Michael L. Brown, then-deputy director of the Louisiana emergency preparedness department, told the Baton Rouge Advocate newspaper that, in a worst-case scenario, there would be only so much government agencies could do.

'Residents need to know they'll be on their own for several days in a situation like this,' Brown, who is not related to the FEMA director, told the paper."

So, why didn't the mayor tell the people that they needed enough supplies to last a few days on their own? A military colonel who participated directly in the drill said that they would need to. Why is it a suprise one year later?

Why is Mr. Nagin not being held responsible for his failure to plan?
Jim B. | 09.03.05 - 6:46 pm | #

Many police officers — 50 per cent of the force by some estimates — turned in their badges in disgust and desperation. Compass said his officers were urinating and defecating in a casino basement because they had nowhere else to go and no time off. He also admitted some of his officers have resorted to looting.

Mayor Ray Nagin broke down and wept during a radio interview. "Get off your asses and do something," he said.
mitch | 09.03.05 - 6:46 pm | #

Joe,
With all that bullshit in your mouth the commander is gonna have a hard time stickin' his dick in it. Try washing it back with some more piss.

You keep on talkin', while you ship is just fuckin' sinkin'...the doggie paddle ain't gonna save you ass from this disaster.
mulefly | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 6:46 pm | #

Bush does not order evacuation...that is done at the STATE level.

Plus what did Bill Clinton do after the first World Trade Center Attack.

Dems dont like facts...you just like to call names and make up lies. What a drain on society.
JOE | 09.03.05 - 6:48 pm | #

i guessing they get paid about $0.13 per word. give or take $0.02 but i may be wrong.

keep waiting on that invite to castle crawford peasants. last time i checked your donations to the great leader was less than $500,000 so you're expendable.
ask kenny boy lay who only donated $250,000

keep dreaming, hope it doesn't rain near you
goserve.com | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 6:51 pm | #

Jill...The federal govt. is helping and so are many Christians and Republicans that you guys hate. Name three things that Nagin has done for his city in this disaster. You cant do it.
JOE | 09.03.05 - 6:51 pm | #

Jim B. and JOE hurry up the circus show starts in five minutes. Get your costume and put your make up quick, children are waiting for you.
Bush tossed my salad | 09.03.05 - 6:51 pm | #

Guys,

NOBODY said that FEMA and the National Guard shouldn't be involved. Stop using that straw-man argument. Again, nobody is saying that.

But the local government should have enough resources to ensure that people are starving and dying of thirst after just three days.

That means the local government should have told people how to prepare. They should have told people what to put in a survival kit (food and water for at least 48 hours). And they should have let them know that they might need to survive alone for a week while rescue efforts were going on.

Come on. You guys are telling me that everyone knows Bush is a colossal failure. Well if that's the case, then why would anyone expect FEMA to rescue the whole city in three days?

The notion is just plain crazy.
Jim B. | 09.03.05 - 6:51 pm | #

...it doesnt have to wait a week to send fucking help either...
kingweasil | 09.03.05 - 6:53 pm | #

GoServe...your living in the clouds get a grip and a brain. I'll take care of myself and not wait on the government to come wipe my ass.
JOE | 09.03.05 - 6:53 pm | #

i guess those luntz focus groups respond faster than the great leader of the noble cause and his appointed fuckups in getting actual work done.

maybe luntz should be 'their' president
goserve.com | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 6:55 pm | #

Plus....when Tom Ridge came out and asked people to have an emergency kit it was the left that laughed and criticized.
JOE | 09.03.05 - 6:55 pm | #

GOODIE

scroll the trolls
goserve.com | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 6:56 pm | #

Goodie...no one is saying that ....they should all work together....the cops are on tape looting...give me a break.
JOE | 09.03.05 - 6:56 pm | #

GOODIE,

Please see my post. Of course your security doesn't depend SOLELY on the governor. But you ought to be able to last four days without George Bush riding in on a white horse to save you.

Of course the only way to survive four days is if you have a kit of emergency supplies. A gallon or two of water and some packs of fruits and nuts would last you and your family four days. Granted, you'd be thirsty as hell and hungry as hell after four days, but you WOULD be alive and you WOULD recover. Thats what is important.
Jim B. | 09.03.05 - 6:59 pm | #

Again Goodie....everyone should work together. The local agencies were not prepared. I doubt Nagin would have ordere evacuation were it not for Bush pleading for it. You guys are low on facts.

Plus...you guys are all for free speech until you disagree.....then you say scroll the trolls...
JOE | 09.03.05 - 6:59 pm | #

Answer the question, Who is my commander in chief : Bush or My local city's mayor. When all fails who is responsible. The general or the sargeant
GOODIE | 09.03.05 - 6:59 pm | #

Ugggh!
I cannot STAND F'n Lott, chimpy , and the rest of this gang.
Are they even living in reality?
There's a special place in Hell (if it exists...personally I think we're IN it!) for these fucktard politicians!
neptune | 09.03.05 - 7:00 pm | #

If these glory-holes are gettin' paid then that is truely sad...sad for their assfuckin' cause, but so so sad for them...that would make them nothing but whores.
mulefly | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 7:00 pm | #

You guys should have paid attention in high school...you might understand how the American Government works.
JOE | 09.03.05 - 7:03 pm | #

my fellow bloggers, they have agreed the mayor is the villian from their rnc focus group this morning

so may we now ignore them till they wear themselves out and their tough marine loverboy jimmy/jeff comes to rescue them

scroll the trolls
goserve.com | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 7:03 pm | #

...persistent whores.
mulefly | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 7:04 pm | #

Mulefly....I have yet to read anything from you that makes any sense...you must be that fly that flies around the Mules ass.
JOE | 09.03.05 - 7:04 pm | #

Answer the question, Who is my commander in chief : Bush or My local city's mayor. When all fails who is responsible. The general or the sargeant

Wow, if that attitude isn't an example of complete centralized government subserviency, dependence, and helplessness, then I don't know what is.
Jim B. | 09.03.05 - 7:04 pm | #

Kanye West....what a well spoken young man.
JOE | 09.03.05 - 7:05 pm | #

Hey Smiley: How does it feel to be an errand boy for Republicans who have created this mess. Yeah. That's right.

Republicans have been "starving the beast" as Rondald Reagan said, to cut taxes, cut human services, cut emergency services, and shrink the size of government. . . unless its money that's being spent in some foreign land to enrich American contractors. The result, growing deficits, skyrocketing salaries and wealth for people in the top 1%, stagnating salaries for middle and lower class, vanishing health care benefits and retirement benefits.

The same people who didn't have the money to get out of New Orleans are the ones the Republican lobbiests have fought to keep from getting a rise in the minimum wage. Who's going to pay when people get sick or too old to work, now that employers are abandoning health benefits and retirement?

I would say that Bush's plan to fix Social Security solvency with a program that dismantles it would set the stage for creating a third world country with a few very rich, a modest military/police population to keep the rest of the population in line, and a vast number of poor.
Kind Monkey | 09.03.05 - 7:05 pm | #

Jim B ...we are dealing with a Welfare Society.
JOE | 09.03.05 - 7:05 pm | #

Minimum wage...give me a break.
JOE | 09.03.05 - 7:07 pm | #

Fixing Social Security would help those people save and have something to leave behind...
JOE | 09.03.05 - 7:08 pm | #

Kanye West....what a well spoken young man.
JOE
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Waddaya fuckin' know? Looks like Joey is jumpin' ship. Swim, fucktard, swim. You can do it.
mulefly | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 7:08 pm | #

There you go again Mulefly....cmon try and make a point you can do it. Write it out on paper first and read it out loud.
JOE | 09.03.05 - 7:09 pm | #

Lets see ist World Trade Center attack, HMMMMMMM I believe Clinton FOUND those responsible and they are in US jails. HMMMMMMMMMMMM maybe your president could FINALLY find Osama that he swore on the rubble of that building with the NY firefighters( remember the bull-horn) oh yeah he cut the NY firefighters long term health benefits and diverted the monet to Iraq. HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM maybe you should read more and get some facts straight before you write again. Typical right wing Bush mentality
Michigander | 09.03.05 - 7:10 pm | #

Hey CLOWN answer the question:
Answer the question, Who is my commander in chief : Bush or My local city's mayor. When all fails who is responsible. The general or the sargeant

Wow, if that attitude isn't an example of complete centralized government subserviency, dependence, and helplessness, then I don't know what is.
Bush tossed my salad | 09.03.05 - 7:10 pm | #

Your saying Osama had nothing to do with the first WTC...please....and Bush is the only one to blame for a Hurricane.....You and Mulefly need to go back and get you GED
JOE | 09.03.05 - 7:11 pm | #

Sorry Homo Salad Boy.....thats a stupid question and Jim B and I have answered it several times.
JOE | 09.03.05 - 7:13 pm | #

Who is my commander in chief : Bush or My local city's mayor. When all fails who is responsible. The general or the sargeant
Bush tossed my salad | 09.03.05 - 7:13 pm | #

Please answer it one more time.
Bush tossed my salad | 09.03.05 - 7:14 pm | #

Sad to see these shit-stain republicans try and defend this response. There are plenty of people responsible, at every level, and the president and FEMA are included in that blame.

Fortunately there are plenty of republicans who admit something went wrong here. David Brooks has said the president has done a terrible job and called this the "anti-9/11". The Washington Times (owned by a right wing cult) even took a swing at Bush.

Good luck defending this your fucking shit-stain republicans.
bubba | 09.03.05 - 7:14 pm | #

Joe: My understanding is that the Mayor announced an evacuation Sunday morning after the State of Emergency was announced Saturday by Georgie... Now, I don't know what happened between the time of the State of Emergency and the Mayor's evacuation call, my guessing is that before you announce an evacuation you have to have plans in place to get emergency personnel in their positions e.g. red cross at the Astrodome etc? With regards to supplies etc - as soon as FEMA kicks in it's my understanding they supply the emergency supplies and equipment (usually on hand via the Nat. Guard) and as most of LA Nat. Guard is in Iraq, then I believe? it's FEMA or the AG that releases Nat. Guards from other areas to give police and security detail... Again, this would be in the FEMA plan, but I'm pretty sure it would be federal command and control because of the State of Emergency status.

Also, NO hurricane disaster is different from most earthquake disasters in that NO is in a bowl and if the hurricane doesn't knock out your road routes, then the water is definately going to get you (all this was predicted).

Plus, all this about Georgie begging the gov to issue an evacuation call seems a bit far fetched as EVERYONE LA reps, senators, gov and the emergency prepareness folks, and army corps were WELL WELL AWARE of what a hurricane could do with NO. I'm not sure what the lines of communication are between LA Emergency Prepared Staff - and the National Hurricane Center are rather than the info. being fed through to FEMA - but I guess that will all come out v. soon before the WH has spun it's own story in the media -

Also, with the winds and the water - in a city the size of NO how can the city rely on itself? Joe, look at the pleas over the years to the Bush admin and the repug congress asking for grants and support to help NO - it is quite disgusting the lack of interest and neglect that went on at the FEDERAL level... We pay taxes for a reason - and it's certainly not for $8 billion of it to go to Iraq and be unaccounted for.
SandThroughTheEyeGlass | 09.03.05 - 7:15 pm | #

heh heh them storm troopers we planted on crooks and liars are giveing them liberals hell arent they rove? well president remember it was my idea to hire that scum off the street since theyr not smart enough to do eny thing else ! but karl i thought you said it was them swift boat bastards you hired to sink kerry ! nah they had to put thier brains in dry dock so were left with the dregs! he he well these sum bitches cant blame me eny more cause i got people patting me on my back for my swift action you turd brain if it wasnt for me youd be just a stumbling asshole like you were in the debates ! heh heh karl your such a kidder
Anonymous | 09.03.05 - 7:15 pm | #

No one is saying that this has been a mistake free rescue....but I dont hear any of you blaming anyone but the president...what about the cops that were looting.
JOE | 09.03.05 - 7:16 pm | #

Bush tossed my salad,

The question doesn't even make any sense. Of course, in a military environment, the General is responsible overall, but that's because he PICKS his leadership.

George Bush didn't get to pick the mayor and governor of Louisiana, because this is not a military dictatorship. Would you prefer that it was?
Jim B. | 09.03.05 - 7:19 pm | #

Cops who stole and looted: guilty
People who were looting pcs, tvs, electronics....pieces of shit
Mayor, governor, senators could have done better.
Bush: INCOMPETENT for the office.

Now answer the question JOE or Jim B..ubbles.
Bush tossed my salad | 09.03.05 - 7:21 pm | #

Point is:

You. Are. Finished.

Your bullshit has now been exposed to an overwhelming majority of Americans.
Americans like Americans. And they prefer not to see 'em dying in the fuckin' streets.

reprise:
Your ignorant propaganda-catapulting ass is finished.
mulefly | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 7:22 pm | #

Bush tossed my salad,

I just did answer it. We live in a democracy. People elect their local and state governments. Bush does not hand select them.

In a military environment, the General PICKS the people working for him. He trusts that they will then pick the right people to put in charge at lower levels.

George Bush can't do that, so your analogy doesn't hold.
Jim B. | 09.03.05 - 7:23 pm | #

He is a lot more competent than " I voted for the war before I voted against it" .

But thanks Salad Tosser for your honesty.
JOE | 09.03.05 - 7:24 pm | #

Jim B, THANK YOU for answering the question. Bush is the commander in chief, we are at war right now, so he is responsible. You see it was not difficult. Now go back and finish f%%cking your sister in the trailer and dont forget to take your shoes before jumping into the mattress on the floor.
Bush tossed my salad | 09.03.05 - 7:24 pm | #

Mulefly,

In other words the American people are useful idiots. And you will exploit this for all its worth for political purposes, regardless of the truth.

Thanks for being so honest.
Jim B. | 09.03.05 - 7:25 pm | #

Please Mulefly...their is a huge divied in this country that will not change because of this. The truth is that the majority of help is coming from big business and the Christian Conservatives that you guys hate.
JOE | 09.03.05 - 7:26 pm | #

Bush tossed my salad,

WTF? We are at war, therefore the president is responsible for helping the mayor of a city learn how to wipe his ass properly?

Dunno about that one.
Jim B. | 09.03.05 - 7:26 pm | #

i don't know why some of these posters even bother. you're typing against the keyboard brigade who are content to stay at home and watch the truly brave fight and die while they stay at home spreading the latest thoughts of rove and luntz.

scroll the trolls
goserve.com | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 7:28 pm | #

If you are in charge you are responsible. YOU know that B...ubbles baby!!
Bush tossed my salad | 09.03.05 - 7:30 pm | #

yeah thanks to the assassins for their hand.

i wonder of those other black people in liberia managed to get those donations received by the world reknown blood gold/diamond miner and part time hit man.

thanks a lot
goserve.com | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 7:31 pm | #

So was Bill Clinton responsible for Black Hawk Down....he was the chief...
JOE | 09.03.05 - 7:32 pm | #

Jim,
I don't agree with your contention that American people are useful idiots...you see, that kind of derogatory shit is gonna fuck you in the end.

BTW, thanks for appreciating my honesty.
mulefly | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 7:33 pm | #

Well I can't argue with your logic. Its perfectly sound...

If you think that the job of the President of the United States is to personally manage every detail of government across the country, all the way down to making sure the mayor of a city has enough toilet paper in his bathroom.

But I sure as hell don't want my country run that way. Sounds like a damned Stalinist nightmare.
Jim B. | 09.03.05 - 7:35 pm | #

Lets see who picked that idiot horse guy to run Fema, Who picked that guy to run the Dept. of Homeland Security? Who cut the benefits to the NY Firefighters after 911. Who cut benefits to my father a Air Force veteran? Who is cutting benefits to all seniors in this country when the new Medicare is in effect. HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM wake-up it's Bush it's Bush it's Bush and all of you who voted for this administration. Has anyone found out where Cheney is yet? Is he still alive?????? Do us all a favor and admit this is a failure, I had to admit that Clinton lied and did get a blow-job and I never voted for the guy. Shit
Michigander | 09.03.05 - 7:37 pm | #

Mulefly,

It wasn't my contention. I was drawing conclusions from your statements. Well I guess I was wrong. Nice to see that you don't think the american people are useful idiots. It would be even nicer if you didn't act like they were.
Jim B. | 09.03.05 - 7:37 pm | #

boo hoo, play the victim Jim b..ubbles
Bush tossed my salad | 09.03.05 - 7:38 pm | #

Oh God Joe,
Your making this soooooo easyyyyyyy. Clinton was critized by Bush because he did'nt have an exit strategy after "black hawk down" HMMMMMMMM does Bush have a strategy for getting us out of the middle east????????? All of the repugs were upset at Clinton and made every move long and painful. Paybacks a bitch, God just shut up and go read something other than Star Magazine.
Michigander | 09.03.05 - 7:41 pm | #

These fuckin' tarts actually have the gaul to talk about a 'divide in this country'...

These wingnut whores are truely shameless.
mulefly | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 7:41 pm | #

At the end, I think honestly we cannot expect Bush to take resposabilities that well.
Alcoholic, cocaine lover, (His family is the same: even wife laura loved to drive drunk, daughters teenage-drunks, the mexican niece also drug addict) joined the national guard back in the days whe the guard was for cowards, never took responsability for companies he ran under, 9/11 not his fault, no wmd not his fault, osama still banging camels in the desert not his fault, the looting in Iraq not his fault, etc, etc, We get the point. OJ is INNOCENT
And was Bill Clinton responsible for Black Hawk down, OF COURSE!! he was the commander in chief. If we lose the Irak war, whos fault is it? the president or the soldier fighting the battle? Jim B...ubbles and camel JOE when I talk to you I feel Im talking with retards.
Whos fault is that osama is still free? I know DELTA FORCE!!
Bush tossed my salad | 09.03.05 - 7:51 pm | #

i guess after watching faux news like what they did last nite with sex abuser spinning blame on the mayor, the new target will be the governor.

we know the senator is off the hook because she is on record of 'thanking' the great leader and his merry fuckups.

that act of appeasment is what keeps one from being the target of a rove/luntz focus group attack as we see here.

scroll the trolls
goserve.com | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 7:55 pm | #

1 Human1Vote...

Yep, I agree that we need to hear a lot more from the democrats, but Al Gore, behind the scenes, has been working his butt off, to no avail. Yesterday, it was reported that a surgeon at the Charity Hospital in NO , who had operated on the Gore's son, was able to contact Al looking for help of any kind. With his own funds, Al chartered 2 airliners to go to NO to pick up patients and their docs. Problem was he didn't 'clear' it with Dept of Homeland (in)Security, so the rescue never took place. That on top of them refusing aid from Chicago, Canada and other governments. Hell, I even heard Fidel Castro offered aid. Say whatever you will about Fidel and many people do, butlast year a category 5 hurricane hit Cuba and every single one of it's one million plus residents are safe, sound and alive. What does that say?

Oops, back to Lott........he must be doing penance for writing his book about hearding cats in DC, getting back in the good graces of the Bushistas after telling a few truths they wanted buried forever.
texaslib | 09.03.05 - 8:13 pm | #

I think the heartbreaking pictures on TV of people suffering in New Orleans will hurt President Retard somewhat, but what will REALLY hurt him is $3 and $4 gas prices. Face it--last fall the American people knew that Dubya led the country into a war--a WAR!!-- based on a pack of lies, and said, Oh well, let's reelect him. But then after the election, when Dubya tried to mess with their Social Security, that's where they drew the line. Same deal now. A bunch of poor people suffer and die. That's a shame. But $4 gas--that's what's gonna hurt President Chickenhawk.
frank farkel | 09.03.05 - 8:59 pm | #

http://americablog.blogspot.com/...r-photo- op.html

Saturday, September 03, 2005

Bush faked levee repair for photo op yesterday
by John in DC - 9/03/2005 06:29:00 PM

From a press release LA Senator Mary Landrieu sent out today:
But perhaps the greatest disappointment stands at the breached 17th Street levee. Touring this critical site yesterday with the President, I saw what I believed to be a real and significant effort to get a handle on a major cause of this catastrophe. Flying over this critical spot again this morning, less than 24 hours later, it became apparent that yesterday we witnessed a hastily prepared stage set for a Presidential photo opportunity; and the desperately needed resources we saw were this morning reduced to a single, lonely piece of equipment. The good and decent people of southeast Louisiana and the Gulf Coast - black and white, rich and poor, young annd old - deserve far better from their national governmeent.

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I thought I hear the people in-charge of the Army Corp of Engineers says something yesterday about having completed the repairing the break in the leeve. That they did not want to totally block it because they want to allow the water to flow out so as to lower the water level.

Can some one check this out?

If so we have a major lie to the American public again. Why do we start impeachment?

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EasyRider | 09.03.05 - 9:02 pm | #

DEFLECT DEFLECT DEFLECT!

THAT was the urgent message the ROVEPIG has sent out to his trollish minions.

Keep the story, the talking points, the bullshit away from the fucktard in chief .

We must keep them down with bullshit! is their war cry

BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL OF THE PEOPLE ALL OF THE TIME!..

Just the trolls and freeptards and Republicunts so fucking stoopid they can't smell the rotting corpse of the Bush League.

This is the beginning of the END for the Republicunt party.

ADIOS FUCKWADS!
depends | 09.03.05 - 9:19 pm | #

BUSH
THE PRESIDIDN'T

CUZ HE DIDN'T DO FUCK ALL WHILE NEW ORLEANS DROWNED
depends | 09.03.05 - 9:20 pm | #

The Photo-Op White House of Bush, Rove & Partner$ will slink like the snakes they are to slither their way out of this Next Debacle.

They will photo-op at every opportunity, spin at every chance and pull every trick out of their arsenal of evil.

Their grip on power is being threatened and these demons won't be exorcised without a vicious, prolonged fight.

They may be Chickenhawks on the real battlefield but in the political war zone they're mindless, focused zombies.
Sgt. Hulka | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 9:42 pm | #

Maybe it's time for the rich to give their taxs cut back???

Naw, didn't think so!
Down with the Nazi Party | 09.03.05 - 9:44 pm | #

Back to "I lost my beach house that I spend 2 weeks out of the year in Mississippi, so I know how the ordinary New Orleander feels" Lott. People want answers, not talking points, you Republican Fucker. You can rebuild on your own, asshole, but I know you will be first in line, miles ahead of the ones in a truly desperate need, with your fucking porker barrel hand out. How dare you belittle the plight of these people, blame the news media and praise the failure of this administration. You are not spinning your way out of 10,000 dead people. I'll tell you what a filibuster is: waiting 5 DAYS before full efforts were under way because Dumbya was too busy playing fake guitar, eating cake and playing golf. You said so yourself that the response was slow. Because of that, people are needlessly dead. Quit thanking other politicians and giving each other blowjobs and send more aid. You have wasted enough time, shithead. How the fuck do you sleep at night?
Paula | 09.03.05 - 9:50 pm | #

This is America's Chernobyl.

How embarressing. I'm so ashamed.
anti-citizen | 09.03.05 - 10:02 pm | #

joe your so full of shit !fuck your president hes a fucking fool just like you are you useless piece of toad shit , love yah joe meat me tonight at the same place you gave me that wonderfull blow job, my dicks still sore!!!! ps i was a reagan marine i pissed blood for my country gfy regards bilgerman
Anonymous | 09.03.05 - 10:28 pm | #

Anonymous, aka Bilgermman is a GOP Chickenhawk troll on a mission to discredit this liberal blog by using slander, profanity and bad spelling.

He's part of the right-wing Chickenhawk cancer that has infected our nation and that continues to spread.
Sgt. Hulka | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 10:44 pm | #

I think Anonymous, aka Bilgermman has been at sauce - or having a nervous breakdown... Be gentle it takes time to realize that everything you believed is just a lie... All he needs is some Randi Rhodes Republican Rehab
Anonymous | 09.03.05 - 10:49 pm | #

hey its me jackson im no chicken hawk i got a hard on for bilgerman but if you werent so dumb you could see i dont spell as good as bilgerman but seriously the red cross is a fraud and people dont give em shit give to feed the children at least the money wont be spent paying that 500,000 dollar salary to the ceo of the red cross
Anonymous | 09.03.05 - 11:28 pm | #

besides whats so wrong with profanity your jerk off prez does it your jerk off vice prez does it your church pastor does it jeeze loosen up
Anonymous | 09.03.05 - 11:32 pm | #

Koppel, Paula Zahn and Anderson Cooper- you guys think you are so tough with your coverage..and doing the public some good..you are all full of shit; your networks all have now decided that demanding journalism is needed? Where were all of you when the rush to war was counting down in March of 2003. Why weren't the tough questions being posed then? Now you try to win the public back by exploiting the plight of poor black americans? You are all a disgrace to broadcast and print journalism. American public wake-up!
pedro | 09.03.05 - 11:37 pm | #

besides dont you know new orleans dont matter to the news whores eny more chief justice of the supreme court william rinquest just died you wont see the dead and dieing of new orleans again the news whores will be grieveing over that old bastards death for weeks
Anonymous | 09.03.05 - 11:42 pm | #

Bush is a lame duck. We need to remember that midterm elections are coming and in PA idiot Santorum (where is he while gas prices rise in my state? Off praying about them?)must be defeated in 2006...check my homepage.
PABlueState | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 11:57 pm | #

It may not change Republican voter's minds, but it has changed mine. I will now feel perfectly justified in telling them to STFU, and plan to do a lot more of it.

No more toleration of their bullcrap.
donna | Homepage | 09.04.05 - 12:39 am | #

Read the latest addition on my blog, that bit about the news media Lott said pissed me clean off!
Dan McKenzie | Homepage | 09.04.05 - 1:03 am | #

Funny how Bush was elected on being the tough guy. "I am going to smoke Osama out of his cave." Yeah right dude he is still there and probably laughing at our inability to respond to a natural disaster. I can still here how Kerry was a coward and "he was going to arm and protect this country with spitballs." Well the proof is now there. The man in charge is only concerned with lining the pockets of his buddies. Mike Brown of FEMA was fired from his last job (which had something to do with Arabian horses). So lets put him in charge. Well, at least we have Halliburton in charge to rebuild New Orleans. There is a new children's book coming to replace the Waldo book..."Where's Cheney."
Moe | 09.04.05 - 2:06 am | #

smiley and Jim...take a week off...don't eat, drink or shower or use the toilet...fill your tub up and sit in it for a week...then come back and sing the praises of your hero. Give me a break koolaid drinkers.
Teddi | 09.04.05 - 2:15 am | #

You too JK.
You reek of insignificance and breath a stench of propaganda piss.
The fantasy world you once lived in is now going to crumble around you and you're gonna find that your mindless bullshit isn't going to be enough to explain away the wingnut luv juices crusting on your lips. The lights have been turned on, fucker, nice and bright and now everybody can clearly see you for the pathetic piss-junky that you are.
mulefly
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The lights have been turned on indeed. I think the name calling really exposes how truly ignorant you are.

I think it is obvious to everyone that you have an emotional complex due to your extremely small penis size.

Keep up the good work because attitudes like yours is exactly why you got your asses handed to you during the last election.

JK
JK | 09.04.05 - 11:08 am | #

This republican white southern racist mother fuckers want an enemy to really get going. I wish Rudy Gulianni was in charge of this in stead of all these assholes. No wonder this dickhead Trent Lott is no longer in that much power.
Abm Habibullah | 09.04.05 - 11:38 am | #

I'm reminded of the "Whirling Dirvishes," those people who spin and spin so much that they reach a state of transcendetal bliss. They spin and spin and we onlookers are a more than a bit perplexed. "What are they doing? To what end are they hoping to arrive?" Let's face it, America, it's over. Thank God.
Tancred | Homepage | 09.04.05 - 1:28 pm | #

JK,
Name calling? Boo fuckin' hoo...
You. Are. Shit.

Rationalize my absolute contempt for your kind any way you like - I don't give a rat's ass. Reasoning with propagandist mindfucks like yourself...is over.
Paying your opinion any respect while listening to you spew the anti-logic spin...is over.
Giving a shit about your excuses...is over.

You and your logic-fuckin' kind are a disgrace to this country.

If you don't appreciate the way I'm expessing myself...fuck ya, eat shit. But I can assure you that if all of us here weren't separated by the safety of infinity, I'd probably be one of the guys saving your ass from the expression of somebody else.
mulefly | Homepage | 09.04.05 - 2:45 pm | #

I must vent my anger here because I couldn't fight my way out of a wet paper bag and I have a seriously small penis. Please leave me alone.
mulefly | Homepage | 09.04.05 - 8:09 pm | #

Jezzus Looeezzus, JK. That was awful. I know you can do better...try it again.

BTW, is that how you wingnut closet-cases reffer to your junk? ...as penis? Yikes! Sounds pretty clinical to me. You might wanna try and sex it up a little.
mulefly | Homepage | 09.05.05 - 5:16 am | #

ANDERSON COOPER PLEASE CHANGE THAT BLUE TOP. HAVE THE RED CROSS GIVE YOU ONE.
Da'Vi | Homepage | 09.05.05 - 11:08 pm | #

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