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Frist!
Astro | 11.12.05 - 5:34 pm | #

The way things sometimes end up, aren't all threads open threads?
D-day | 11.12.05 - 5:39 pm | #

Good point, D-day.
Korry | 11.12.05 - 5:42 pm | #

LOL Reading through most of these comments they do seem like they all are open. Well it gives us a great place to be heard :D

Jamie
http://intoxination.blogspot.com
Jamie | Homepage | 11.12.05 - 5:46 pm | #

I think open thread means we can START by being off-topic...
actor212 | Homepage | 11.12.05 - 6:01 pm | #

OOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!
D-day | 11.12.05 - 6:02 pm | #

I wish more people would stay on topic myself.
C&L | Homepage | 11.12.05 - 6:03 pm | #

C&L

actor212 | Homepage | 11.12.05 - 6:06 pm | #

Possible Motives Of The Bush Admistration - By Dr. David Ray Griffin

For 9/11...
Jon Gold | Homepage | 11.12.05 - 6:06 pm | #

I'll try C&L but sometimes it is REALLY hard.
D-day | 11.12.05 - 6:06 pm | #

thank you John!

I'm still here, lurking mostly. Can't stay away, you've just got the best blog in the 'sphere.
MzNicky | 11.12.05 - 6:09 pm | #

ty MZNicky,I try my best.
Rocky | Homepage | 11.12.05 - 6:10 pm | #

I know you do, doll.
MzNicky | 11.12.05 - 6:11 pm | #

Well...if those damn trolls would just stay on topic...
Korry | 11.12.05 - 6:11 pm | #

Oh no, dubya's lost it completely!

New on EWM: Bush: “Democrats Killed Jesus, Invented Disco and Drove Me to Drink”
"He’s trying to kill the messenger and the message at the same time."
The Muse | Homepage | 11.12.05 - 6:12 pm | #

Well...if those damn trolls would just stay on topic...
Korry

Precisely. We ought to have Rocky moderate each and every thread...
actor212 | Homepage | 11.12.05 - 6:15 pm | #

Prof. Jones Tallks to Arctic Beacon; Advised in for Whirlwind 9/11 Ride, after Claiming WTC Was a Controlled Demolition

http://www.arcticbeacon.com/arti...18131/ 37124.htm
The Professional | Homepage | 11.12.05 - 6:16 pm | #

kos' bill in portland maine shares a great leonard pitts' editorial that pulls no punches...

teaser...

"'We do not torture,' President Bush said on Monday. Never mind all those torture pictures from Abu Ghraib. Never mind all those torture stories from Guantanamo Bay. Never mind the 2002 Justice Department memo that sought to justify torture. Never mind reports of U.S. officials sending detainees to other countries for torture. Never mind Dick Cheney lobbying to exempt the CIA from rules prohibiting torture."

http://takeitpersonally.blogspot...u-going- to.html

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonl...11/12/16343/ 296
profmarcus | Homepage | 11.12.05 - 6:39 pm | #

20 Amazing Facts About
Voting in the USA

Did you know....
1. 80% of all votes in America are counted by only two companies: Diebold and ES&S.

http://www.onlinejournal.com/ evo...2804landes.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diebold

2. There is no federal agency with regulatory authority or oversight of the U.S. voting machine industry.

http://www.commondreams.org/view...iew...s02/0916- 04.htm
http://www.onlinejournal.com/ evo...2804landes.html

3. The vice-president of Diebold and the president of ES&S are brothers.

http:// www.americanfreepress.net...te_company.html
http://www.onlinejournal.com/ evo...2804landes.html

4. The chairman and CEO of Diebold is a major Bush campaign organizer and donor who wrote in 2003 that he was "committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year."

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/ 2...ain632436.shtml
http://www.wishtv.com/Global/sto...y.asp? S=1647886

5. Republican Senator Chuck Hagel used to be chairman of ES&S. He became Senator based on votes counted by ES&S machines.

http://www.motherjones.com/comme.../03/ 03_200.html
http://www.onlinejournal.com/ evo...04fitrakis.html

6. Republican Senator Chuck Hagel, long-connected with the Bush family, was recently caught lying about his ownership of ES&S by the Senate Ethics Committee.

http://www.blackboxvoting.com/mo...=article& sid=26
http://www.hillnews.com/news/012...2903/ hagel.aspx
http://www.onlisareinsradar.com/...ives/ 000896.php

7. Senator Chuck Hagel was on a short list of George W. Bush's vice-presidential candidates.

http://www.businessweek.com/2000...28/ b3689130.htm
http://theindependent.com/ storie...ew_hagel27.html

8. ES&S is the largest voting machine manufacturer in the U.S. and counts almost 60% of all U.S. votes.

http://www.essvote.com/HTML/abou...bout/ about.html
http://www.onlinejournal.com/ evo...2804landes.html

9. Diebold's new touch screen voting machines have no paper trail of any votes. In other words, there is no way to verify that the data coming out of the machine is the same as what was legitimately put in by voters.

http://www.commondreams.org/view...iew...s04/0225- 05.htm
http://www.itworld.com/Tech/2987...es/ pfindex.html

10. Diebold also makes ATMs, checkout scanners, and ticket machines, all of which log each transaction and can generate a paper trail.

http://www.commondreams.org/view...iew...s04/0225- 05.htm
http://www.diebold.com/solutions...ons/ default.htm

11. Diebold is based in Ohio.

http://www.diebold.com/aboutus/a...nce/ default.htm

12. Diebold employed 5 convicted felons as consultants and developers to help write the central compiler computer code that counted 50% of the votes in 30 states.

http://www.wired.com/news/evote/ ...5,61640,00.html
http://portland.indymedia.org/en...10/ 301469.shtml

13. Jeff Dean was Senior Vice-President of Global Election Systems when it was bought by Diebold. Even though he had been convicted of 23 counts of felony theft in the first degree, Jeff Dean was retained as a consultant by Diebold and was largely responsible for programming the optical scanning software now used in most of the United States.

http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/sto...0312/ S00191.htm
http://www.chuckherrin.com/ Hackt...voteFAQ.htm#how
http://www.blackboxvoting.org/bb...bb...v_chapter- 8.pdf

14. Diebold consultant Jeff Dean was convicted of planting back doors in his software and using a "high degree of sophistication" to evade detection over a period of 2 years.

http://www.chuckherrin.com/ Hackt...voteFAQ.htm#how
http://www.blackboxvoting.org/bb...bb...v_chapter- 8.pdf

15. None of the international election observers were allowed in the polls in Ohio.

http://www.globalexchange.org/up...org/up...press/ 2638.html
http://www.enquirer.com/ editions...loc_elexoh.html

16. California banned the use of Diebold machines because the security was so bad. Despite Diebold's claims that the audit logs could not be hacked, a chimpanzee was able to do it! (See the movie here: http://blackboxvoting.org/baxter...baxterVPR.mov.)

http://wired.com/news/evote/ 0,26...5,63298,00.html
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4874190

17. 30% of all U.S. votes are carried out on unverifiable touch screen voting machines with no paper trail.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/ 2...ain632436.shtml

18. All -- not some -- but all the voting machine errors detected and reported in Florida went in favor of Bush or Republican candidates.

http://www.wired.com/news/evote/ ...5,65757,00.html
http://www.yuricareport.com/ Elec...esBushIsOut.htm
http://www.rise4news.net/extravotes.html
http://www.ilcaonline.org/module...article& sid=950
http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/sto...0411/ S00227.htm

19. The governor of the state of Florida, Jeb Bush, is the President's brother.

http://www.tallahassee.com/mld/t...cal/ 7628725.htm
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp...- 2004Oct29.html

20. Serious voting anomalies in Florida -- again always favoring Bush -- have been mathematically demonstrated and experts are recommending further investigation.

http://www.yuricareport.com/ Elec...esBushIsOut.htm
http://www.computerworld.com/ gov...1,97614,00.html
http:// www.americanfreepress.net..._thousands.html
http://www.commondreams.org/head...ead...s04/1106- 30.htm
http://www.consortiumnews.com/20...004/ 110904.html
http://uscountvotes.org/
Falalala | 11.12.05 - 6:47 pm | #

Come back Monica.

All is forgiven.

Don't you wish this was just about blowjobs and blue dresses and not the deaths of 10 of 1000s?

I do.
Don | 11.12.05 - 6:51 pm | #

Isn't it odd how similar Rathergate and the Niger docs are? Obviously flawed. An insistance they were valid. And who did both these forgeries benefit?
Ex-repub | 11.12.05 - 6:54 pm | #

Sorry about the links...
20 Amazing Facts About
Voting in the USA
Did you know....
1. 80% of all votes in America are counted by only two companies: Diebold and ES&S.
http://www.onlinejournal.com/ evo...2804landes.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diebold

2. There is no federal agency with regulatory authority or oversight of the U.S. voting machine industry.
http://www.commondreams.org/view...s02/0916- 04.htm
http://www.onlinejournal.com/ evo...2804landes.html

3. The vice-president of Diebold and the president of ES&S are brothers.
http:// www.americanfreepress.net...te_company.html
http://www.onlinejournal.com/ evo...2804landes.html

4. The chairman and CEO of Diebold is a major Bush campaign organizer and donor who wrote in 2003 that he was "committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year."
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/ 2...ain632436.shtml
http://www.wishtv.com/Global/sto...y.asp? S=1647886

5. Republican Senator Chuck Hagel used to be chairman of ES&S. He became Senator based on votes counted by ES&S machines.
http://www.motherjones.com/comme.../03/ 03_200.html
http://www.onlinejournal.com/ evo...04fitrakis.html

6. Republican Senator Chuck Hagel, long-connected with the Bush family, was recently caught lying about his ownership of ES&S by the Senate Ethics Committee.
http://www.blackboxvoting.com/mo...=article& sid=26
http://www.hillnews.com/news/012...2903/ hagel.aspx
http://www.onlisareinsradar.com/...ives/ 000896.php

7. Senator Chuck Hagel was on a short list of George W. Bush's vice-presidential candidates.
http://www.businessweek.com/2000...28/ b3689130.htm
http://theindependent.com/ storie...ew_hagel27.html

Way too long....

Edited By Siteowner
Falalala | 11.12.05 - 6:55 pm | #

Falalala:

Sweet post, but check some of the links.
The Professional | Homepage | 11.12.05 - 6:57 pm | #

Hey, American right wingers, you just keep trying to convince yourself and the world that you're the good guys. 80% of the people in the world know who the bad guys are now, just as they knew in the 1930's.

The good guys (and that doesn't mean perfect) don't have to constantly and thoroughly dupe their citizens with lies.
Korry | 11.12.05 - 6:58 pm | #

Holy shit, just got back from a peak at Newshounds. I wanted to see Fox's take on BO's bullshit. If you think the trolls here are bad, you ain't seen nothing. The NH trolls are even angrier and dumber than Billy Joe Bob or Batty after a complete lobotomy. Yikes. Try reading the hate mail for a great although disturbing laugh. As for me, I need a long soak in betadine.
Strawberrybitch | 11.12.05 - 6:59 pm | #

American presidents don’t lie all the time. Theodore Roosevelt put it clearly in 1897 when he wrote, “I should welcome almost any war, for I think this country needs one.”
Because while the mice are at war, the cats are at play.

As time goes by
by Chico Llave

http://manila.perthimc.asn.au/in...& parentview=371

(snip)

In 1946, a long sword secretly sneered as he returned to West Germany in 1946 with a neat mandate to rebuild an espionage organization. It was a fair deal. Dulles and the CIA heard what they wanted to hear from Gehlen’s Org (half of which was bullocks), while Gehlen was able to set up a Post-Nazi Employment Office, which recycled thousands of non-biodegradable ex-Gestapo, Wermacht and SS veterans into “fighters for the free world,” including the likes of Klaus Barbie - the Butcher of Lyon, and Emil Augsburg, the Nazi officer of the infamous Wannsee Institute, an SS think tank which planned the Final Solution. The same Augsburg wanted by Poland for war crimes who was described by the CIA in 1952 as “Honest and idealist … enjoys good food and wine … unprejudiced mind.”

1942: A good year for family values. Under the Trading with the Enemy Act, the US government orders the seizure of Nazi German banking operations in New York City, which were being directed by Prescott Bush.
Shucks, Grandpa.

Grandpa was the chief financial officer of Dresser Industries, which supplied oil-related equipment to the Rockefeller Standard Oil. Gramps was also a director of Nazi-front company Hamburg-Amerika Line, whose chairman Emil Helfferich, was also the chairman of the Standard Oil’s German subsidiaries. One of Hamburg-Amerika’s partners is I.G. Farben, the German industrial giant which produced Zyklon B, the poison gas used to murder Jews, Gypsies and Russians . IG Farben also built and operated more than forty concentration camps, including Auschwitz.

World War II was an interesting time. “Ford trucks were being built for German occupation troops in France with authorization from Dearborn, Michigan” while the head of the international American telephone conglomerate ITT “was flying from New York to Madrid to Berne to help improve Hitler's communications systems and improve the robot bombs that devastated London.”

When it was revealed at the conclusion of World War II that I.G. Farben owned thirty percent of Standard Oil stock, a man by the name of Allen Dulles was hired by Standard Oil to represent it before the US Congress and the Federal Court. I.G. Farben was later split up by the Allies at the end of the war into different companies, one of which was a firm called Bayer – which happens to have interesting links with the Carlyle Group, where the Bush family happens to be a major player and which also has just as interesting business ties with a family called the Bin Ladens (and which counts as a member a certain Philippine president by the name of Fidel V. Ramos).

All together now … “You must remember this, the thief is still a
thief, a lie is still a lie, the fundamental things apply as time goes by
...”

gotta remember who we're dealing with, where did saddam get his weapons of mass destruction in the first place ?? hum ??

don't forget who NOW owns dresser industries: halliburton

oh, on an unrelated note, remember bush's state of the union speaches where he keeps blabbering on about asbestos lawsuit reform ??

http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/handb...es/DD/ dod4.html
tofubo | 11.12.05 - 7:02 pm | #

For a detailed and fully documented chronology of Plamegate and the Niger Documents Forgery Scam, try here.
Jak King | Homepage | 11.12.05 - 7:16 pm | #

Does anyone know why the video site
canofun.com is no longer available?

They had all the current political
clips and more. Have been trying to enter their site for two days, without success. Keep getting the message that their server is down.
Canadian Observer | 11.12.05 - 7:19 pm | #

To another topic that was discussed in another thread last night...

This link worked last evening and is an extremely damning video of Bush at the Monday evening Kilgore rally and then getting off Air Force One with Laura. HE IS DRUNK IN THE VIDEO. Period. I have been around enough drunk people in my life to know what drunk is...

Now....the website is completely down and noone seems to be able to come up with the video. How can that be? I'm not tech savvy enough to know how to do whatever...but surely SOMEONE out there has a copy of the video. I think the first part was from some Virginia TV stations...showing highlihgts of the rally.

Here is the original link:

http://www.canofun.com/blog/ vide...bushdrunkie.wmv

Someone? Anyone? By the way...I love this blog! Thank you for letting me mostly stand in the shadows and read...
Ohagi | 11.12.05 - 7:23 pm | #

Canadian Observer...

Seems you and I were posting about the same thing at the same time. You say you haven't been able to access the site in two days. I saw the video last evening and copied and pasted it to an email that I sent to my mailing list. By the time I got back to look at it again and to see if I could somehow save it to my computer...it was GONE...just gone....
Ohagi | 11.12.05 - 7:28 pm | #

A Wall Street Journal poll says 69% of the country believes Cheney is responsible for Plamegate!!!!

The Bushies are toast.

dionysus | 11.12.05 - 7:35 pm | #

I would SO love to see that "drunk Bush" rally. HELP!
digit | Homepage | 11.12.05 - 7:38 pm | #

http://www.wsws.org/

That's all...
FarLeftRage | 11.12.05 - 7:49 pm | #

Ohagi, honey. C&L is the most welcoming place on the net. So just swig back a shot and post away. I love reading the posts here. It makes me feel like there is a last resort of sanity and reason somewhere on the planet and that I'm not alone on Bush/bizarro world.
Strawberrybitch | 11.12.05 - 7:55 pm | #

Update: Newsweek has new approval Bush poll, a new low: 36%.

Bush is politically dying....

Impeach the rat.
James | 11.12.05 - 7:56 pm | #

Look at this advertisement on the Novak column at TownHall. Are they trying to be subtle??? They put the Giuliani for President ad right under the headline "Dean VS the Italians". These guys have no shame.

http://townhall.com/opinion/colu.../12/ 175201.html
Not Dick but Richard | 11.12.05 - 8:03 pm | #

GOP memo touts new terror attack as way to reverse party's decline:

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/ a...icle_7639.shtml
K | 11.12.05 - 8:11 pm | #

In the interests of national security, we have shut down the propoganda organ for the axis of evil, canofun.com. Its proprietors and staff have been extraordinarily renditioned to a special CIA base, which does not exist, where torture is not practiced.

Keep posting; we are coming for you soon.
Alberto Gonzalez, AG | 11.12.05 - 8:11 pm | #

let's hear it for "national sacrifice zones" yeah !!

http://www.google.com/search?sou...rifice+zones% 22
tofubo | 11.12.05 - 8:14 pm | #

"A huge honking coincidence, despite what the 9-11 tinfoil hatters say..."
-actor212

I guess all the engineers, physicists, demolition experts, explosive experts, former intelligence agents, foreign relations experts, economic experts, former military officers, and various other government personnel/scientists/high-functioning analytical intellects are all running around in little tin-foil hats too, huh?

"When I tell any truth, it is not for the sake of convincing those who do not know it, but for the sake of defending those that do."
--William Blake
9/11=USA's Reichstag | 11.12.05 - 7:46 pm | #

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but 9/11=USA's Reichstag ,actor212 is an out of work thespian and freelance blogger, so of course he knows more than all the engineers, physicists, demolition experts, explosive experts, former intelligence agents, foreign relations experts, economic experts, former military officers, and various other government personnel/scientists/high-functioning analytical intellects that question 9/11.BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, poor old actor, stuck with his head up his ass.
why bother? | 11.12.05 - 7:52 pm | #
. | 11.12.05 - 8:18 pm | #

Professor Steven Earl Jones(the latest person to come out and claim that explosives were most likely used in the WTC,indicating an inside job element to the attacks)

Full Professor
Department of Physics and Astronomy
Brigham Young University
Provo, UT 84602

BIOGRAPHICAL:
Birthdate: 25 March 1949
Citizenship: USA

EDUCATION AND EXPERIENCE:
Graduated from Bellevue High School, Bellevue, Washington, with 4.0 scholastic average (A=4.0) in 1967.

B.S. in Physics, Mathematics minor, magna cum laude with honors, from Brigham Young University in 1973, retaining Presidential (David O. McKay) Scholarship.

Ph.D. in Physics, Mathematics/Electronics minors from Vanderbilt University in 1978, retaining full Tuition Scholarship and Research Fellowship (1973-197.

Ph.D. research conducted at the Stanford Linear Accelerator Center (1974-1977); course work completed at Stanford University.

Post-doctoral research conducted at Cornell University (CESR) and the Los Alamos Meson Physics Facility.

Conducted research at the Idaho National Engineering Laboratory, EG & G Idaho, Idaho Falls, 1979-1985 (Senior Engineering Specialist).

Principal Investigator for experimental muon-catalyzed fusion 1982-1991 for the U.S. Department of Energy, Division of Advanced Energy Projects.

Spokesman for LAMPF Experiment #727 and co-spokesman for LAMPF Experiments #963 and #1151 (1982 - 1993).

Collaborator in several other experiments, including experiments at TRIUMF (Vancouver, Canada), The National High Energy Laboratory, KEK (Tsukuba, Japan), Rutherford-Appleton Laboratory (Oxford, U.K.), and Kamioka, Japan.

Associate Director, Brigham Young University Center for Fusion Studies, 1989-1994

Search for fusion in condensed matter and deuterium, research for U.S. Department of Energy (May 1986 - December 1991) and for the Electric Power Research Institute (April 1990-June 1993).

AWARDS
David O. McKay Scholarship at Brigham Young University, 1968
National Merit Scholar, 1968
Tuition Scholarship and Research Fellowship at Vanderbilt
University, 1973-1978
Outstanding Young Scholar Award (BYU), 1989
Best of What's New for 1989 (Popular Science), 1989
Creativity Prize (Japanese Creativity Society), 1989
BYU Young Scholar Award (BYU), 1990
Annual Lecturer BYU Chapter of Sigma Xi (1990-1991)

now lets look at actor212's credentials:out of work,47 year old thespian who blindly trusts the corporate media and corrupt government and spends a large amount of time bashing people on blogs that dont agree with him.
now you tell me who you are more likely to believe.
simple logic indeed | 11.11.05 - 7:40 pm | #.
. | 11.12.05 - 8:19 pm | #

Strawberrybitch -- Your imbecilic posts are so mind numbing that drinking novicane would wake the dead! Are you taking steroids, again?
Batman | 11.12.05 - 8:20 pm | #

did this ever happen ??

http://bellaciao.org/en/ article....id_article=3323
tofubo | 11.12.05 - 8:22 pm | #

YAY! Bat-ster's back!
Olio | 11.12.05 - 8:22 pm | #

Ever heard of P2OG??? Is this for real?

http://www.alternet.org/waronira.../11/ 000092.html
K | 11.12.05 - 8:22 pm | #

Bat guano,

We're coming for you, too.

You're an embarassment to the integrity and honesty of this Administration.
Alberto Gonzalez, AG | 11.12.05 - 8:24 pm | #

Yeah, 'cause putting quotes from a suck-ass, bottom-of-the-barrel TV show like Buffy, is, like, SO hilarious...

Oh my god! It's like, TOTALLY funny, because it's from a crap show on TV and, like, lowest common denominator and stuff, and we can all idiots can relate to it! You know?
Olio | 11.12.05 - 8:16 pm | #

You are so right Olio. That's the Democrats' idea of being funny...

Punk-ass democrat motherfuckers
The Crab | 11.12.05 - 8:27 pm | #

i'm just glad we also don't have to to worry about this:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/art...es/ MOR407A.html
tofubo | 11.12.05 - 8:28 pm | #

Oh Batty, I know you want to fuck the hell out of me, but I'm just too tired raising three children and training three hours a day. PS, if I were doing gear, I wouldn't be so nice to you right now.
Strawberrybitch | 11.12.05 - 8:28 pm | #

Thanks, Strawberry, for the welcome!

I'm sure I will soon feel comfortable enough to speak out more often. I'm extremely vocal and active in my 'real life'...but have only very recently started blogging. I think I'm a little overwhelmed at the number of sites and the sheer...AMOUNT OF INFORMATION.

I agree that I do like C&L more than most. At least most of you *appear* to be half-way bright. I have tried to follow some of the 'BlogsforBush' and 'Free Republic' blogs; and to be honest with you, I've never seen such boring bullshit in my life! Are there no bright, entertaining, thought-provoking conversations going on on the other side of the aisle?

Duh! That would undoubtably be one of those oxymoron things....
Ohagi | 11.12.05 - 8:30 pm | #

You have 3 children you say?

Your pissflaps must be reaching your knees...
The Crab | 11.12.05 - 8:31 pm | #

Digit try

www.informationclearinghouse.info/article6622.htm
Canadian Lurker | 11.12.05 - 8:32 pm | #

The trolls are out in force. It's the End Time—for THEM. They're everywhere! They're everywhere!

Batten down the hatches, comrades! Rocky can't (and shouldn't have to) do it all on his own!
MzNicky | 11.12.05 - 8:32 pm | #

PS -- DON'T FEED THE TROLLS!
MzNicky | 11.12.05 - 8:33 pm | #

Uh, crabby, you don't work out much, do you? I just turned 38 this summer and I still get carded. Exercise and clean eating keeps you young.
Strawberrybitch | 11.12.05 - 8:35 pm | #

Ohagi, stick by me and I'll keep you covered. The woods are thick with trolls.
Strawberrybitch | 11.12.05 - 8:37 pm | #

How do you exercise?

By hanging weights from your pissflaps and doing sit-ups?
The Crab | 11.12.05 - 8:37 pm | #

Capitol Hill Blue/DOUG THOMPSON | November 12 2005

Comment: This document adds to the mountanous pile of smoking gun evidence of government complicity in staged terror attacks and other false flag operations. It has now been declassified, as we already knew, that the Gulf of Tonkin never happened. It was staged to get us into Vietnam. Operation Northwoods was the official US government plan to carry out 9/11 style attacks against the American people and blame it on foreign enemies as a pretext for war.

Read below as governmental leaders salivate over how wonderful a devastating terror attack would be against the American people for their policies, it would force us to accept total enslavement. It goes on to talk about our sorrow and pain and how it could be directed. I've been reading Capitol Hill Blue for years and they are one of the most impeccable sources we have found.

Publicly published PNAC documents before 9/11 had saliva stains all over them as Dick Cheney and others talked about helpful Pearl Harbor attacks. Prison Planet.com recently interviewed Conservative leader Paul Craig Roberts and he stated that we're in real danger of the Bush administration staging terror attacks to defiblrilate their agenda.

---------------------------------

A confidential memo circulating among senior Republican leaders suggests that a new attack by terrorists on U.S. soil could reverse the sagging fortunes of President George W. Bush as well as the GOP and "restore his image as a leader of the American people."

The closely-guarded memo lays out a list of scenarios to bring the Republican party back from the political brink, including a devastating attack by terrorists that could “validate” the President’s war on terror and allow Bush to “unite the country” in a “time of national shock and sorrow.”

The memo says such a reversal in the President's fortunes could keep the party from losing control of Congress in the 2006 midterm elections.

GOP insiders who have seen the memo admit it’s a risky strategy and point out that such scenarios are “blue sky thinking” that often occurs in political planning sessions.

“The President’s popularity was at an all-time high following the 9/11 attacks,” admits one aide. “Americans band together at a time of crisis.”

Other Republicans, however, worry that such a scenario carries high risk, pointing out that an attack might suggest the President has not done enough to protect the country.

“We also have to face the fact that many Americans no longer trust the President,” says a longtime GOP strategist. “That makes it harder for him to become a rallying point.”

The memo outlines other scenarios, including:

--Capture of Osama bin Laden (or proof that he is dead);

--A drastic turnaround in the economy;

--A "successful resolution" of the Iraq war.

GOP memos no longer talk of “victory” in Iraq but use the term “successful resolution.”.
uh oh | 11.12.05 - 8:40 pm | #

Crab,

You remind me of Dith. Are you sure you're old enough to be here? I think it's time you took your Ovaltine and your Ritalin and let your mommy tuck you in for the night.
old lib | 11.12.05 - 8:41 pm | #

Are there no bright, entertaining, thought-provoking conversations going on on the other side of the aisle?

No, there aren't. All the ones with any brains at all have moved to the left, or are in the middle.
Korry | 11.12.05 - 8:41 pm | #

I still have the video on my hard drive but I don't have a website to post it on. And it still works.
elroy | 11.12.05 - 8:42 pm | #

Compassionate Conservatism"
George Bush was spending some time at his ranch in Crawford, Texas. One afternoon, he was riding in the back of his official limousine when he saw two men eating grass by the roadside. He ordered his driver to stop and he got out to investigate. "Why are you eating grass?" he asked one man..

"We don't have any money for food," the poor man replied.

"Oh, well, you can come with me to my ranch," instructed the president.

"But, sir, I have a wife and two children with me!"

"Bring them along!" replied the president. He turned to the other man and said "You come with us, too".

"But, sir, I have a wife and six children!" the second man answered.

"Bring them as well," answered Bush as he headed for his limo. They all climbed in, which was no easy task, even for a car as large as the limousine.

Once underway, one of the poor fellows said, "Sir, you are too kind. Thank you for taking all of us with you."

Bush replied, "Glad to do it. You'll love my place... the grass is almost a foot tall!"

Sent in by Lisa Miller

This is one of many jokes found here:
http://www.allhatnocattle.net/index.htm
stoppit | 11.12.05 - 8:43 pm | #

uh oh,

Thanks for the info, but somebody posted a link earlier...there's really no need to cut and paste the whole article. Those of us who want to read it will find it, I'm sure.

John prefers that we don't post long articles; it does turn some people off.
old lib | 11.12.05 - 8:44 pm | #

email it (the bush is drunk vid) to c&l?
me | 11.12.05 - 8:46 pm | #

please?
me | 11.12.05 - 8:47 pm | #

I just wanted to say hello to the thoughtful, intelligent folks here at C&L.

I am ignoring the other ones!
Jacqrat | Homepage | 11.12.05 - 8:47 pm | #

ok
pardons
stoppit | 11.12.05 - 8:48 pm | #

No, there aren't. All the ones with any brains at all have moved to the left, or are in the middle.
Korry | 11.12.05 - 8:41 pm | #

Korry, you belong on the left side. That's the losers side. It fits you well. Maybe you and Strawberrybitch can hookup and have a estrogen party. You know, the one that requires batteries.
Batman | 11.12.05 - 8:49 pm | #

Strawberrybitch: Email us your picture. The address is www.ishotmyself.com.
Batman | 11.12.05 - 8:51 pm | #

I sent the clip. Now I will have the Bushco Police at my door. Maybe they will just go away if I don't answer their knock.
elroy | 11.12.05 - 8:51 pm | #

Flap, flap, flap...

I will hearby refer to you as "Dumbo", and it won't be because of your ears...
The Crab | 11.12.05 - 8:51 pm | #

Wow, crabby, you must either be Ian-Billy-batman-richard or who the fuck else or you're new here. NOT. I bodybuild and powerlift ya little repug, no balls, pastey karl rove look-a-like. You do not want to know me. I enjoy watching peoples' expression when I walk into a room,the only guys not afraid of me are other bodybuilders or actor212. He scares even me.
Strawberrybitch | 11.12.05 - 8:52 pm | #

thanks old lib. got any other complaints?
uh oh | 11.12.05 - 8:53 pm | #

These repugnant trolls atre just like their counterparts in the Bush administration, only worse. Nothing well thought out,
Anonymous | 11.12.05 - 8:54 pm | #

I am actually quite intimidated by the sight of your pissflaps as you drag them across the gym floor, Dumbo
The Crab | 11.12.05 - 8:54 pm | #

did you really think you can delet me...I laugh at you.

YOU ARE RACIST!

yea i cut and past it whats it to ya you rats. my father was in Vietnam and he has bad flash backs from it. he dosnt like to talk about it so i dont asked about it. all i know is he says it was hell.

the rats are running. i love it.

interview with ted kennedy and how he lies..RATS!

But, Senator, what the Democrats stood for on the floor of the Senate in 2002--let me show you who said what I just read: John Kerry, your candidate for president. He was talking about a nuclear threat from Saddam Hussein. Hillary Clinton voted for the war. John Edwards, Joe Lieberman, John Kerry. Democrats said the same things about Saddam Hussein. You, yourself, said, "Saddam is dangerous. He's got dangerous weapons." It wasn't just the Bush White House.

Has the whole left of the aisle forgotten that the CIA was run by George Tenant Clinton appointee and Democrat? I am stunned that they can even get this **** out of their mouth.

Bill Clinton had dodged the draft during the Vietnam War and used marijuana, which he claimed he had smoked, but "didn't inhale." A classic lie. i wonder if he was that dumb to tell the police that if he got pulled over. cheach,chong, and bill clinton. "i smoked it but did not inhale" i had sex with Monica Lewinsky but what happend was i fell down and my dick got stuck. it was an accident...LOL!
Clinton was the second U.S. president to be impeached by the House of Representatives.Clinton initially denied having any improper relationship with Lewinsky, but later admitted that it had in fact taken place. He apologized to the nation for his actions. RATS LIE TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE!

a failed attempt to create a comprehensive health care system under a plan developed by the First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton.In the wake of the September 11, 2001 attacks, the independent investigating commission was critical of Clinton for focusing more on diplomatic than military means to eliminate the bin Laden threat.

In addition to impeachment and the Whitewater scandal, the Clinton White House was the subject of many scandals. Travelgate refers to the firing of White House travel office staffers allegedly to give business to Clinton's cousin and utilize the plane of Harry Thomason. Filegate refers to White House handling of hundreds of personnel files from individuals without asking for their permission. The White House explanation was that it was merely a "bureaucratic snafu." Chinagate involved Democrats accepting improper campaign contributions; allegedly the ultimate source of this money was the Chinese government. Pardongate refers to a grant of clemency to FALN members in 1999 and pardons to his brother and others in 2001 (see Clinton's Pardons List). In March, 1998 Kathleen Willey, a White House aide, alleged that Clinton had sexually assaulted her. Also in 1998, Juanita Broaddrick alleged that Clinton had raped her in 1978. Secretary of Agriculture Mike Espy was acquitted on each of 30 charges of illegally accepting gifts such as sports tickets, lodging, and transportation from companies regulated by his department in exchange for favors. Sounds like mr clinton was more on the lines of one horney rat even knowing he is married. MORE LIES FROM THE RATS!

HUD Secretary Henry Cisneros pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor for misstating to the FBI the amount of money he gave his girlfriend.Clinton friend and confidant Vince Foster is found dead of a gunshot wound; later determined to be suicide. sounds like they toke hime out because he know to much.

this man is crazy!

Former President Bill Clinton said that he supports the efforts of Louis Farrakhan and the Million More March.
Clinton said that the gathering - formally announced last week by Minister Louis Farrakhan, Rev. Al Sharpton, and Rev. Jesse L. Jackson - could train a positive spotlight on critical issues impacting African Americans.When will Clinton? And when will the ADL have the guts to condemn/criticize/confront an ex-president who is now an enabler of the pied piper of racism and anti-Semitism?Despite repeated calls to the Anti-Defamation League’s press office over several days, I couldn’t get any one to talk to me about Clinton’s endorsement of Farrakhan’s march and, by extension, of Farrakhan.
With Clinton standing proudly at his side, perhaps Farrakhan will elucidate some of the other esoteric aspects of his theology - how the white race is the result of a genetic experiment by an evil black scientist, named Yacub, 6,000 years ago. Or how the minister was taken up to a UFO "mothership" where he got the inspiration for the original Million Man March. (Beam him up, Adolph.)

Farrakhan is an uber-bigot. Clinton is a boob. The ADL is a pathetic fraud. The next time you hear Foxman wailing and rending his garments over anti-Semitism, remember how Clinton’s TLC for the Nation of Islam got a free pass from the ADL.

so to some this all up about CLINTON and the domcratic party. THEY ARE RACIST AGAINST WHITES, THEY MURDER,THEY RAPE,THEY STEAL.AND HAND OUT FREE PASS TO RACISM AGAINST WHITES! WHAT A WIGGER! AND THE RATS!

Bill clinton smoking pot on the wall waiting for the mother ship!
whiteman | 11.12.05 - 8:55 pm | #

Dude, ya know, I'm laughing at you. My 12 year old son is laughing at you, too. Piss Flaps? OK dude, ya got me. I'm so hurt. Oh, help, C&L, this evil troll hurt my feelings!!!!! WWWWAAAAHHHHH. OK. I'm going to go fuck the hell out of my 310lbs. 7 percent body fat boyfriend. He loves it when I'm on top. He's laughing too. But he doesn't think you're worth the effort either.
Strawberrybitch | 11.12.05 - 9:00 pm | #

thanks old lib. got any other complaints?
uh oh | 11.12.05 - 8:53 pm | #

uh oh,

Nothing other than the fact that Bat guano, BillyB, and now Crab are still a bunch of chickenshit chickenhawks and won't enlist even though I posted a link the other night to the Army recruiting website.
old lib | 11.12.05 - 9:02 pm | #

Whiteman... you are an idiot..

--patrick
Patrick Broadfoot | Homepage | 11.12.05 - 9:02 pm | #

NY times reports the White House is trying to use A LAPTOP COMPUTER (yes you read that right) as evidence of Iran's nuclear intensions.

http://nytimes.com/2005/11/13/ in...agewanted=print

Putting data on a laptop computer has got to be the easiest forgery imaginable. I think you could rig a monkey up to do that, similar to the diebold machines.

Please get this story out. They are using more questionable evidence ON A MUCH MORE IMPORTANT matter.
Ex-repub | 11.12.05 - 9:03 pm | #

Strawberrybitch -- Are you really 310 lbs.? WoW! What wouldn't I give to have a pinup poster of you! C'mon sweetness, post your pic on ishotmyself.com! It's where people, mostly females, take a camera and do their own photo shoots. Try it! You might like it and who know, you might even become famous!
Batman | 11.12.05 - 9:04 pm | #

"Deal, chocolate animal woman."

- Ling-Ling
Captain Awesome | 11.12.05 - 9:04 pm | #

wow white man is still on the clinton bashing stick.

do we have any proof yet - or is he still just rambling with his finger up his W tatooed ass.
sockmonkey | Homepage | 11.12.05 - 9:04 pm | #

Old Lib, you're the idiot chickenhawk. I'm probably older than you are.
Batman | 11.12.05 - 9:05 pm | #

Is the true? It couldn't be true

tp://forgetfullibs.blogspot.com/
NYTreader | 11.12.05 - 9:06 pm | #

You go, Strawberrybitch! My boyfriend is an Algerian/Italian British born ex-pat, who would embarass these white boys beyond belief.

I'm sure some of these trolls totally understand the need for some women to use appliances and batteries. There's not other way for the women in their lives to get aroused, I'm sure.

As for myself, the only thing I need batteries for is my wireless mouse and my digital camera.
Korry | 11.12.05 - 9:08 pm | #

Batty, why are you so obsessed with me? No. I'm not going to fuck you. Dude. I'd kill you. There's nothing more unattractive then having a guy say " Honey, you're crushing me!" while I cum.
Strawberrybitch | 11.12.05 - 9:08 pm | #

Bat guano,

I'm 57, and I served my country in the land of bad things.
old lib | 11.12.05 - 9:08 pm | #

Uh yeah, you do that.

And don't forget to feed your 3 punk-ass kids with the benefits you grab out of honest taxpayers' money, stupid-ass skank...
The Crab | 11.12.05 - 9:09 pm | #

@ whiteman

Get your facts straight!!!:

http://contentoverpresentation.b...- terrorism.html

One example:
January 2001: Outgoing Clinton officials say "The Bush team thinks we're obsessed with terrorism".
K | 11.12.05 - 9:09 pm | #

yoiu can try to ban me until your blue in the face but its not going to happen. IAM SMARTER THEN YOU! SON!
whiteman | 11.12.05 - 9:09 pm | #

Yep, Strawberry...I have to say that reading what some of the trolls have to say is extremely entertaining. I have trouble believing that some of them are real, however! And, I agree that for the most part, they should just be ignored. It's hard to do but; we truly have to pick our fights.

I believe that the mentality of most of the 25-30% core Shrub base is not that of people able to truly engage in logical/rational give and take. They, for the most part, are told how to think by their religious leader...much as the Muslim masses are told how to think by their religious leaders. There is really not that much difference, you know?

These folks basically go to church and their pastors/ministers/priests/ tell them that Shrub is God's man in the White House and that they should support him. So they do. Period. End of story. No argument, logical or nonsensical, would make them deviate from the talking points. It's a matter of 'faith' for them.

That's why, in my opinion, the big issue is two fold.

1) We MUST fix our voting. There is NO EXCUSE for the screw ups that have taken place and continue to take place without any accountability. I know the argument has been put out there that it's all tied up in corruption and politics and Ohio and I do not doubt that. However..the point is...we have to focus on that. Until the corrput, corporate criminals that control our 3 BRANCHES OF GOVERNMENT are stopped....it won't matter who votes or how they vote.

2) We MUST convince more progressive/liberal/left wing/smart/Christian/Muslim/Jew/ middleoftheroaders/veterans/peaceniks/..
everyone....EVERYONE...that voting is the only way this form of democracy works.

IMNTBHO...the reason it's not working is because we have allowed a very vocal, VOTING minority to write the agenda. The reason for this is that the evangelicals have a MUCH better voting record than does any constituency that would tend to vote progressive/liberal.

Ok...well...Now aren't you sorry you welcomed me, Strawberry? That's my Saturday night sermon for the week. You may go back to whatever you were doing, boys and girls!
Ohagi | 11.12.05 - 9:10 pm | #

An Algerian/Italian British born naturalized US citizen who is currently serving this country in the US Army, btw.
Korry | 11.12.05 - 9:10 pm | #

Ugh, no intelligent conversation to be found on this thread.
RR | 11.12.05 - 9:11 pm | #

The owner of C&L is a good title indeed. It supports the democratic party of CROOKS AND LIARS!

Bane me but its freedom of speach!
whiteman | 11.12.05 - 9:11 pm | #

Freedom of speech is a public freedom. It doesn't apply to private domains, private homes, and the like. I could throw you out of my house for being an ignorant racist, too.
Korry | 11.12.05 - 9:13 pm | #

Crabby, my sons, (the twins are autistic) go to a private school. We are ex military. Their father reenlisted for Iraq, that's why I left him. He's still there getting his ass blown off. I got tired of explaining why daddy kept missing their birthdays. 12 years of raising 3 kids alone gets old real fast.
Strawberrybitch | 11.12.05 - 9:14 pm | #

Strawberry, you owe no explanations to that vulgar little troll.
RR | 11.12.05 - 9:15 pm | #

Boo-hoo!
The Crab | 11.12.05 - 9:16 pm | #

This is what iam talking about !!!!!

(The democratic Media Double Standard)

Perazzo shows that the news media try to cover up the fact that many black attacks on whites are motivated by racial hatred. The murder of six and wounding of 17 passengers on a Long Island train by Colin Ferguson on Dec. 7, 1993, is a notable example. Perazzo writes: "While all local news broadcasts that evening led with this story, and every New York newspaper gave it front-page headlines the following day, not a single report mentioned the gunman's skin color. Clothing color, however, was somehow deemed newsworthy by the New York Times, which provided the media's most detailed description of the shooter as 'a husky-looking man dressed in white....Ferguson openly acknowledged that he had acted for purely racial reasons. (This) forced the media to report...not only that the gunman was black, but that every one of his victims was either white or Asian.'"

There were no reports on the literature found in Ferguson's room, and despite his admission of his motive, a New York Times editorial said, "The usual imperative of those who would contemplate an event like (the) Long Island Rail Road massacre is to 'make sense' of it. While the wish is reasonable, no more sense can be made of such a thing than of a typhoon or cyclone. Forget the gunman's declared motive of racial hatred: when someone with a semiautomatic weapon starts perforating citizens en masse, the question of motive evaporates."

Perazzo points out that no such analysis was made of the motive in "any instance of white-on-black crime in memory." He says that in those cases, "civil rights leaders and social commentators were virtually unanimous in attributing the perpetrators' violence to racism. Colin Ferguson was, for the most part, exempted from such charges; the slaughter he engineered was widely accepted as the bitter fruit of a crazed man's mental imbalance." The most important lesson the major media found in this case was that handguns are the problem, not antiwhite racism. The media gave more attention to Ferguson's gun than to the ideas that had been planted in his head by influential blacks, helping fuel the drive for stronger gun control.

The contrast between the media coverage of this and other black-on-white murders and white-on-black murders is mind-boggling. Typically, in the black-on-white cases there is little or no national coverage of the story. If it is covered, the race of the killer is reported belatedly, if at all, and there is little or no investigation of whether or not he hates whites. If there is such evidence, the authorities try to keep it under wraps and the media refrain from doing their own investigations. These stories have no legs. They generate no public outrage and are soon forgotten. That, of course, is the objective of both the authorities and the media.

The white-on-black murders get exactly the opposite treatment. They get heavy coverage in the print and electronic media. The racial views of the perpetrators are investigated. If they are found to have a record of being antiblack, that becomes the story. It may become the story even if there no evidence to support it. The memory of the crimes are kept alive for years, and some of them even get into the history books. They generate outrage on the part of both whites and blacks, and they are added to the arsenals of those who are striving to inflame racial hatred against whites.

Howard Beach: White On Black

The death of a 23-year-old black named Michael Griffiths on Dec. 19, 1986 in the white, middle-class community of Howard Beach in Queens, New York illustrates this contrast. Perazzo devotes five pages in his book to what happened there and the aftermath. This is a brief summary.

Griffiths and two friends had car trouble and went to Howard Beach to make a phone call. They were accosted by a dozen white teenagers who shouted racial epithets and attacked them with a baseball bat and tree limbs after one of the blacks flashed a knife and returned their racial insults. One of them ran off after being hit in the head with a bat. Griffiths and the other victim were badly beaten, but they managed to escape. Griffiths ran onto a parkway, was hit by a car and killed.

This Perazzo writes: "The public clamor over this incident was deafening, the media coverage immense....Newspapers, magazines and broadcast stations across the nation examined the attack in extraordinary depth...." Demonstrations erupted, resulting in more news coverage. Mayor Ed Koch said, "This was the worst murder I believe has taken place in the modern era." Marches and demonstrations proliferated. Blacks armed with bats attacked whites, crying, "Howard Beach." The youths who attacked Michael Griffiths were convicted of manslaughter, since they didn't actually kill him. Hundreds of protesting blacks blocked rush-hour traffic in Manhattan and Brooklyn.

Wilkinsburg: Black On White

On March 1, 2000, John Kroll, 55, was finishing up putting a new door on the apartment of Ronald Taylor in Wilkinsburg, a small town near Pittsburgh. Taylor, irritated by how long it was taking, first threatened to kill John DeWitt, 63, who was helping Kroll install the door. Emerging with a .22 caliber revolver, Taylor shot Kroll in the chest, killing him. Unable to find DeWitt, he headed for a Burger King up the street, where he killed Joseph Healey, 71, a part-time preacher at the Christian Church.

Crossing the street to a McDonald's, Taylor shot Richard Clinger, 56, in the head. He survived, but will never be normal. He then entered the restaurant and wounded Steven Bostard, 25, the assistant manager. He next shot and fatally wounded Emil Sanielevici, 20, who was waiting to be served at the drive-in window. He proceeded to Ross St., where he reloaded his gun and told a group of men, "I'm going down in a blaze of glory, and I'll shoot anybody white." All of Taylor's victims were white.

Fleeing to a building, he threatened three white women, telling a young black, "Not you, sister. You go." He grabbed a lady's arm, saying, "You look like a smart, white bitch. I won't shoot you; I'll terrorize you." He fled into another room, surrendering to the police a few hours later. He told the police he had some mental problems. He lived on Social Security SSI payments.

Taylor's crimes were motivated by an intense hatred of whites. Three good men died and two were seriously injured because he hated whites who paid most of the taxes that enabled him to eat and live in subsidized housing without working. He even hated those who worked to fix his door. Antiwhite writings were found in his apartment. Those who nurtured Taylor's hate share responsibility for the murders, but the police would not reveal their names or their messages.

There were no demonstrations to protest Taylor's deeds, no sermons condemning blacks. Leaflets reading "Black Crime, White Victims" and urging whites to "stand up and fight" circulated in a few nearby towns. They were denounced as the product of "hate groups" seeking to exacerbate tensions. The police investigated them. At the church where the murdered Joe Healey had preached, mourners were urged to pray for Ronald Taylor too "because he's one of God's children."
whiteman | 11.12.05 - 9:17 pm | #

Strawberrybitch -- I just can't believe you are 310 lbs. of ripping muscle and no tits. If you are 310 lbs. then it is because you are a behemouth sized bitch from McDonalds hell. Not even Lou Ferigno was 310 lbs. in his prime!
Batman | 11.12.05 - 9:19 pm | #

Oh my God, i'm a stupid bitch who betrayed a man who is fighting for his country, please sympathize with me!

I'm raising kids, and i'm the only woman who's raising kids, no one else in the world is raising kids, WOE IS ME! I'm so special and usique!

Pfffffft! You're a pathetic little person
The Crab | 11.12.05 - 9:19 pm | #

Thanks RR. You guys are the greatest. It never ceases to amaze me that the trolls support the troops as long as the troops stay in line, don't make waves, don't ask for help when they get their limbs blown off, and don't question der leader. Otherwise, you're a traitor. See Ohagi? These guys have your back. Post away.
Strawberrybitch | 11.12.05 - 9:20 pm | #

Whiteman -- please shorten your posts, dude. They are getting a bit long in the tooth, if ya know what i mean. Keep it short and to the point. You'll get more responses from these liberal twits.
Batman | 11.12.05 - 9:21 pm | #

this is not private it is public. Private whould need a passward. this is a public internet. So get your shit right. And i have been using computers way before you was running down your moms leg!
whiteman | 11.12.05 - 9:21 pm | #

TV ALERTS:
* Ex-Pres. Clinton on "NickNews" (Nickelodeon, SUN, 8:30 pm). (Via Hotline)
* Via Hotline: “Sunday -- Meet the Press hosts RNC Chair Ken Mehlman and DNC Chair Howard Dean. Face the Nation hosts Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) and Gov. Mark Warner (D-VA). This Week hosts Sens. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) and Elizabeth Dole (R-NC) and Reps. Rahm Emanuel (D-IL) and Tom Reynolds (R-NY). Fox News Sunday hosts Sens. Pat Roberts (R-KS) and Jay Rockefeller (D-WV). Late Edition hosts NSA Stephen Hadley, Sens. Pat Roberts (R-KS) and Carl Levin (D-MI), Iraqi Deputy PM Ahmed Chalabi, Jordan Deputy PM Marwan Muasher, and Govs. Tom Vilsack (D-IA) and Mike Huckabee (R-AR). Other Weekend Shows -- Q&A hosts Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-NE) (C-SPAN, SUN, 8 p.m.) Road to the White House hosts Sen. John Kerry (D-MA) at a Manchester, NH, rally for Mayor Bob Baines and ex-Sen. Tom Daschle (D-SD) at the IA J-J dinner (C-SPAN, SUN, 6:30 p.m.) After Words hosts Gov. Bill Richardson (D-NM) (C-SPAN2, SUN, 6 p.m.)”

* Last Week in Jokes 11/12/05
* The Electorate, Electoral Issues & the Political Landscape Update for 11/3/05 to 11/9/05 In This Edition: Abramoff, DeLay & CIA leak investigations; polls; SCOTUS; House Ethics Committee FINALLY hires counsel; Introducing “Cover up Congress”; Hagel piles on; right-wing bias at the IRS?; a Tom DeLay figure in MN; 2005 effects, and so much more...
* VA purple in 08?
Newsie8200 | Homepage | 11.12.05 - 9:22 pm | #

If black people were in Germany during World War II, the Holocaust would have never happened. Or, not to Jews.
Sarah | 11.12.05 - 9:22 pm | #

And for the record, Whiteman, I hope you never get banned.

Other than your annoying habit of cutting and pasting from whatever deluded white supremacist site you get that garbage from (and frankly, that's what the scroll wheel on my mouse is designed for), your posts make me feel better about that shrinking percentage that still support Bush.

All I have to do is read one of your posts, with its atrocious spelling, grammar and fallacious logic and I realize that Bush supporters can't think their way out of paper bag.
RR | 11.12.05 - 9:24 pm | #

No, a public domain in the internet would be .gov or .org. A domain that ends in .com in paid for with private funds, and is privately owned.

Kind of like the distinction between public schools, paid for by public funds, and private schools, paid for by private funds. That's why prayer and religious displays are allowed in private schools and are not questioned by the government, or organizations like the ACLU.

Do you get it?

It doesn't matter how long you've been using something if you don't have the brain power to understand what it is and how it works.
Korry | 11.12.05 - 9:28 pm | #

Batman is too stupid to read! She said her boyfriend is 310. Moron.
Korry | 11.12.05 - 9:33 pm | #

Uhm, Korry, darlin'. You're using words waaay too big for these trolls. You need to use lots of obsenities and monosylabic words in order to penetrate that cloud of ignorance.
Strawberrybitch | 11.12.05 - 9:33 pm | #