she kicked meme so hard
rend |
03.26.06 - 12:49 pm | #
Whatever she says is true.
niki |
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03.26.06 - 12:52 pm | #
Umm...I need some "personal time" for bout 11 minutes or so, k thnx...
mike |
03.26.06 - 12:54 pm | #
She should be on every show, she is hot. AND, she is also right, of course. Fuck Kurtz.
BB |
03.26.06 - 12:55 pm | #
The MSM is bought and paid for.
Why do you think every single MSM outlet is asking the "Is the media painting too negative of a picture?" question.
How is this all happening at once -- who is orchestrating it?
Media conspiracy -- bought and paid for, or complaint shills hired by installed editors and news directors.
Why do you think they need to demonize the blogs? Because they don't control them. Yet.
Biggus Diggus |
03.26.06 - 12:57 pm | #
" we can't show this reconstruction project because then that's going to expose it to sabotage."
Neocons Threaten Judges Lives |
03.26.06 - 12:59 pm | #
Bravo, Lara Logan, what you say is absolutely correct. You can't report any good stories in Iraq because it's just too dangerous.
I'd like to see reporters cover a "good story": George Bush and Dick Cheney touring Baghdad to view the goddamn mess they've created there.
That would be a great story if only they had the balls to do it. But, knowing the two evildoers for what they are - cowards - they'd probably say they have other priorities.
Loum |
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03.26.06 - 12:59 pm | #
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Bob, The Original |
03.26.06 - 1:02 pm | #
I've been saying it for a long time now: The press will finally do the right thing when it becomes personal for them.
So the editors are actually buying the "press only reports the negative stuff" bullshit? What a bunch of trained monkeys.
me |
03.26.06 - 1:03 pm | #
Looking at her...hmmmm....what was she saying, I got distracted. Oh yes, the 'good' news from Iraq. Calling all trolls, please post the good news from Iraq...we'll all just wait.
wisedup |
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03.26.06 - 1:03 pm | #
"I'm mad as hell, and i'm not gonna take this anymore!!!"
Looks like the reporters on the ground, who have spent months there, are the wrong people to criticise about only reporting bad news. You may have wingnut pundits land at the Airport, ride around with troops who have better things to do with their time, have their photo taken with a smiling kid who is keeping one eye on the guns around them, then fly back to their air condition studios to say how great things are and how easy they had it.
The question no-one asks them is, "Did you travel around without an armed escort?". The answer of course is no, as none of them would be able to hold in the contents of their bowlels for more than two minutes.
If there really were so many postive stories happening l don't think that this present American administration would hesitate to trumpet them to prove how right they were to invade, and the likes of Hannity, O'Reilly at al (who unfortunatly pollute our screens in the UK) would be standing there doing stories on how great the Bush administration is.
Ukobserver |
03.26.06 - 1:04 pm | #
We know the major stations are following the Bush orders. Bush would like Americans to think everything is great and no problems. With the lost of so many young soldiers he doesn't want us to know. Lets face it the grapevine is the real news. Our troops give up the real deal and its not good. So the media can continue to cover what ever Bush wants but Americans have the internet and world wide news coverage so whats the fuss about.
Jackie Rawlings |
03.26.06 - 1:04 pm | #
Loum,
Dick and Dub Tour Baghdad would be GREAT journalism, very positive. Especially positive would be the part where they get blown up and their bodies get torn apart by bloodthirsty hordes of vengeful Iraqis.
MarcLord |
03.26.06 - 1:05 pm | #
Uh, "Bob, The Original," besides being rather racist, your comment is off topic.
On topic. Horray for Ms. Logan. Way to hammer the artificially manufactured right-wing meme. I am so looking forward to the day when we take back our institutions and make them more objective and less subject to manipulation by people who have money to burn.
sciguy |
03.26.06 - 1:07 pm | #
The Fed stopped reorting M3 levels because of the milions they are printing to pay off Rush, Sean and the rest of the paid, Repugfucks. Alan Colmes gets doesn't get paid but he does get to swallow.
Bob, The Original |
03.26.06 - 1:08 pm | #
I'm watching CBS News from now on!
Chris |
03.26.06 - 1:09 pm | #
Laura Ingraham must be ready to spit bullets!
According to The Daily Dish column in The New York Daily News, Jimmy Reyes - a 43-year-old beer distributor, father of two, and former fiancé of Laura Ingraham - has a new love interest.
Ann Coulter?
Wrong.
Kathryn Jean Lopez?
Just kidding.
Try, gulp, Katie Couric.
Yes. Read that again. Slowly.
Katie. Couric.
Reyes dumped Ingraham ... for Katie Couric.
Perhaps this explains Ingraham’s rampant displays of anger earlier this week when interviewed by David Gregory – not Katie Couric – on The Today Show.
Heck have no fury like a Conservative cast aside for a Progressive with deeper pockets.
The Bush administration is attacking the messenger again, in this case, the media, but the public is finally cluing in that 'this dog don't hunt'.
NoBuddy |
03.26.06 - 1:11 pm | #
Why don't all of the cheerleaders for the war go over to Iraq and dredge up some good stories?
I could go on and on with these cheerleaders of the war...
Are they ALL too BUSY to report on the supposed good news in Iraq (I know Domenech isn't too busy as he just lost his job, but he would have to find another pundit to go with him so that he could copy what they wrote)?
Are they all too coWardly to go there?
SHE sounds like she has a cool head on her shoulders, she will not last long BECAUSE SHE IS NOT A LAP-DOG SUCK-UP TO BUSH AND THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. Howe Kuntz is one of the BIGGEST SUCK-UP LAP-DOGS on CNN. If the Republican Party did not feed him talking points he would not have a thaught in his simple head HE would be Considered A "DUMB BLOND" NO OFFENCE TO BLONDS, JUST A FACT. H.D. COLE
H.D. COLE |
03.26.06 - 1:14 pm | #
that smackdown backed them up a few steps. oops, maybe we shouldn't talk about this. great post, great response.
Kevin |
03.26.06 - 1:15 pm | #
MarcLord, maybe we can get a petition or groundswell going calling for the prez and mcdick to indeed travel to Iraq, just to prove to Americans that everything is just swell over there.
That type of drive, perhaps, would even be picked up by MSM and really put pressure on the pricks to contemplate such a move.
Then, we'll let the Iraqis take care of the rest of your dream (and mine).
Loum |
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03.26.06 - 1:15 pm | #
What a stark contrast to see the intelligence of this reporter and the stupidity of Ingraham.
"For eight days" is right. Ingraham's an idiot.
Anonymous |
03.26.06 - 1:18 pm | #
Wow. Articulate, intelligent, strong-willed, strong-minded, and attractive to boot. Lara Logan rules.
I liked that "8 days" comment she threw in about Laura Ingraham at the end. Brilliant.
Keep fighting the good fight, Ms. Logan.
Master of the Flying Guillotin |
03.26.06 - 1:18 pm | #
She's brilliant! The best part is the end--8 days! That's great!
Gordon |
03.26.06 - 1:18 pm | #
If only there were more willing to speak out as she did. She makes us proud. Great young woman!
Druthers |
03.26.06 - 1:18 pm | #
And to the idiots here who make comments about her looks, go jack off and STFU, you creeps.
Anonymous |
03.26.06 - 1:19 pm | #
Good lord, does Kurtz have a brain in his head? If so, what portion of it is not working for the Bush administration? Kurtz, you got creamed, and you should have thanked Lara Logan for showing you the light.
Viacondotti |
03.26.06 - 1:19 pm | #
I really liked Logan's parting shot after being told Ingram had just gotten back from being in Iraq for eight days:
"Eight days? [rolls eyes, laughs...]
Joe Max |
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03.26.06 - 1:19 pm | #
Howard Kurtz is such a tool. Say, is *HE* in Iraq??
Anonymous, you beat me too it. I just loved her sarcasm-drenched response to Kurtz's pointing out that Ingraham has been there for eight days! Lara Logan is one sharp lady and obviously a dedicated reporter.
sciguy |
03.26.06 - 1:20 pm | #
I thought it would end with Kurtz's little snide comment about Laura Ingraham taking a trip to Iraq, but Lara Logan got in the best quote...."8 Days? "
I am going to try to watch CBS too....
Thank God for the Web and C and L.
Ronald McD |
03.26.06 - 1:22 pm | #
Having watched the video and seen Lara Logan's response to Ingram's stoic eight days in Iraq IMHO l think that Laura would be as popular as Al Franken at Bill O'Reilly's birthday bash. Even if he brought a loofah with him. I would love to be a fly on the wall when she tries to engage reporters who have been in Iraq for long periods of time about their lack of reporting good news!!
Ukobserver |
03.26.06 - 1:24 pm | #
I trust you all know that Mrs. Howie is a major RNC operative.
No, the lovely and supremely professional Lara Logan is destined to get the hook.
David Ehrenstein |
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03.26.06 - 1:25 pm | #
I've always thought the media should air the names of US Troops killed with a graphic that says VIDEO CENSORED BY US GOVERNMENT FORCES!
Laura Ingraham sort of had a point. I wouldn't mind seeing Katie Couric Matt Laur and Al Roker dodging bullets and RPGS LIVE in Baghdad, that would be great TV! I think after Bush resigns he shouldn't be put on trial for warcrimes but made ambassador to Iraq. We could build him a little house in the middle of the former Green Zone! He could unite not divide Iraq. The US Corporate Media is covering up the 911 attacks and enabling the war with Iran, good news from Iraq huh!
Why is it up to blogs like mine to publish photos of dead Iraqi babies? If the US Media showed a real photo of a dead US soldier and a dead Iraqi citizen every night, the war would be over in a week.
crusader bunnypants |
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03.26.06 - 1:26 pm | #
David,
I hope you're wrong. Her speaking truth to power on that clip was bracing. A real antidote to the press manipulation that we have to suffer through day after day.
sciguy |
03.26.06 - 1:27 pm | #
Lara smacks down Laura. No contest anyway you look at it. Nobody believes the ass clowns anymore.
Billy Bob |
03.26.06 - 1:27 pm | #
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James |
03.26.06 - 1:29 pm | #
That was a "smackdown"! Der Leader was in Iraq Thanksgiving 2003 holding that fake turkey for about an hour. First time Bush has been in a war zone. Vice was there also for a few hours, but officials couldn't meet cheneys hotel accommodations, so he left.
Chickenhawks shouldn't start wars. Right on Lara Logan. But don't expect any accommodations from US military bigwigs now. The Bush bullcrap is finally being exposed.
RMB |
03.26.06 - 1:29 pm | #
The final words "for 8 days" said with a smile says it all.
aquarius2 |
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03.26.06 - 1:32 pm | #
CBS has a rising star....tuff and hot
And she stated a fact....reporters are not free to roam around in country
So why should they report positive stories?
And when is this site (or any other left blog) gonna start reporting on a hong kong company taking over security through a no bid contract to do nuke scans on cargo going through the bahamas?
Why the eff are we outsourcing security?
Uncle Joe McCarthy |
03.26.06 - 1:34 pm | #
So the editors are actually buying the "press only reports the negative stuff" bullshit? What a bunch of trained monkeys.
me | 03.26.06 - 1:03 pm | #
Editors at one point were ex-journalists. Today, a business degree would do you more good I suspect as the editor is responsible to the board/owners for revenues - and content only in as much as it effects revenues.
Jim B. |
03.26.06 - 1:35 pm | #
the longer bush is in office the more we have to undo when he leaves.
we are being conditioned to lose liberty and like it.
gas prices are so high that when they fall to 2 dollars we feel like we're getting a bargain.
that's old world thinking. that world is gone.
Anonymous |
03.26.06 - 1:37 pm | #
These fucking wingnuts just will not let this go. Because if they do let go of this fast-rotting tree root, off they'll go into the great, yawning valley below.
jurassicpork |
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03.26.06 - 1:39 pm | #
Anonymous:
I heard two Clear Channel jerks "Armstong & Getty" out of Sacramento compare Helen Thomas' face to an old catcher's mitt. The fact is, Lara is bright, articulate and extremely attactive. Since she's pretty, the right-wing attack squad will have one less avenue of malicious attack; her appearance.
Turk Meister |
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03.26.06 - 1:40 pm | #
For eight days Lara's smile at the end of the segment.
Sounds like Laura Ingram needs to spend a little more time there. Maybe driving around the country looking for good stories!
kyblu |
03.26.06 - 1:40 pm | #
i'm still waiting for the "several DVDs full of wonderful footage of reconstruction, of medical things going on" taken by the husband (whose "job while serving was as a broadcast journalist") of a woman at a recent "townhall" meeting ... you'd think fox and others would be all over that footage ...
katy |
03.26.06 - 1:41 pm | #
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Please limit your comments to the topic and not other posters.
Now, can we have Lara please give our Democratic leaders a lesson in how to show some righteously indignant spine?
Hilarity |
03.26.06 - 1:47 pm | #
All REpublicans have the big MT heads they realy believe threir own bullshit As to show how Repub stupidity realy is they thought that they could fight a popular war they could not believe that all war is hell
Monte schlarman |
03.26.06 - 1:47 pm | #
She's beautiful, well spoken, intelligent and has an English accent. I've only ever seen her reporting segements and have never seen her get the chance to speak her own mind - at least to my recollection, but now I think I'm in love.
*sigh*
STParker |
03.26.06 - 1:47 pm | #
This is Mr. Rove's modus operande. There is no policy in this whitehouse, there is only a television show.
I wouldn't be suprised if they find that Pat Tillman was fragged because they needed a hero to dominate that week's bad news which was really bad.
That's the real story about the news. The news is Mr. Roves canvas to create a reality for Americans that profits the elite who sell oil,weapons and drugs to pad their bulging bank books.
Problem is, people are getting tired of the program their producing.
Meanwhile, the melting ice in Greenland is showing up as small earth quakes on University siesmographs.
bozo |
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03.26.06 - 1:47 pm | #
Ms. Logan did an excellent job in reporting the truth. This has been my contention all along. As soon as one area is secured another area flairs up.
Bush will continue to put out lies about how well the war...excuse me...democracy is coming along in Iraq.
Ms. Rice was on MTP this morning. She is still grouping 911 and Iraq. Russert stated that 911 doesn't have anything to do with 911. Her response was something like...if you believe that 911 was the only thing happening then we are wrong. She never divulged what the "other things were" and Russert being the paid Bush lackey, never asked.
Rice also said that everybody got the same intel/info that Bush got. I don't know how they get away with such bs. IT'S THEIR INFO/INTEL. Everytime I hear that shyte my blood boils
Ms. Rice also lied and said that a war with Iran is a long way off. Yeah right.
tHeGaMeOfLiFe |
03.26.06 - 1:51 pm | #
LOL
"8 days" (rolls eyes)
Greatest response ever.
Lara was awesome. She has every right to be outraged. Kurtz is a Republican mouthpiece who deserves the deballing he just got at the hands of Ms. Logan.
I was a believer in Lara logan after her piece on 60 Minutes (or was it 60 Minutes II) about the lack of security on the Baghdad Airport Highway. Like others have said, she was then and still is informed, articulate, willing to ask the hard questions, and (most importantly) willing to expose herself to real danger to cover the story. In the 60 Minutes piece, she accompanied troops on a nighttime mission. She regularly reports from Iraq and Afghanistan (where I believe she once reported during a firefight).
The future looks bright for CBS News!
sal |
03.26.06 - 1:56 pm | #
And to all those crying "sexist." I don't think any of us were going to run off to Iraq to shout lewd comments at her. She is attractive, a quality that is more than the sum total of her features. I agree her looks have nothing to do with the story, but please forgive my schoolboy crush. I wasn't even going to say anything, but then I thought "what's the harm?" Guess I made the wrong choice.
STParker |
03.26.06 - 1:57 pm | #
'Today we want to show you where people have planted flowers, Hey Bob, move thoes dead bodys so we can get a shot of the flowers.'.....also,
You discusting hornie men, shame on...wow...she is a knock out!...and your should be ashamed of yourselves!
wisedup |
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03.26.06 - 1:58 pm | #
And when is this site (or any other left blog) gonna start reporting on a hong kong company taking over security through a no bid contract to do nuke scans on cargo going through the bahamas?
Why the eff are we outsourcing security?
Uncle Joe McCarthy
I agree Uncle Joe, but I also understand why the Dubai Dubya Deal got more play.
The GOP had told us practically from 9/12/01 that the U.A.E. was where the hijackers were from.
The GOP told us practically from 9/12/01 that the U.A.E. was the breeding ground/training ground/money center of Al Qaeda and the hiding place of Bin Laden.
Then we were supposed to magically forget all of that, because Dubya and his crime family were set to make a lot of money off of the deal, and besides, none of that was true anyway...
I think it was a bigger deal because at least subconsciously people realized that Bush had just told the nation that the GOP were in on 9/11.
sorry to go so off topic, C&L.
anonymous |
03.26.06 - 2:00 pm | #
Why the eff are we outsourcing security?
Uncle Joe McCarthy
We are outsourcing security because our National Guard units are in Iraq. The purpose of our National Guard is to protect our homeland. The guard should be home protecting our ports, harbors, chemical sites etc. Bush/Cheney have compromised our national security because of this.
Bush joined the National Guard so he didn't have to go to Viet Nam. He did a heck of a job protecting the bars, strip clubs and pizza joints in Alabama.
RMB |
03.26.06 - 2:00 pm | #
They blame judges, the poor, our military heroes and now reporters for reporting FACTS and information for the people to gadge and test powerfull people in high places.
NEOCONS ARE A THREAT TO OUR FREEDOMS!!
whit |
03.26.06 - 2:02 pm | #
i think i'm in love...
Youareyou |
03.26.06 - 2:02 pm | #
Lara Logan's "eight days" comment (regarding Laura Ingraham's time in Iraq) and the look that went along with it at the very end of the clip were PRICELESS.
Mike B. |
03.26.06 - 2:02 pm | #
Relax, STParker, [deleted] You're ok.
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James |
03.26.06 - 2:03 pm | #
Oh my, I want a news sandwich of Lara Logan and Melissa Theuriau.
jerry |
03.26.06 - 2:05 pm | #
Wasnt that Laura always dressed in " Robo Cop" body armour all the time. Tell her to try a halter top and short shorts while doing a story on the advancement of womens rights in post Saddam Iraq.
Col Kilgore |
03.26.06 - 2:05 pm | #
Anonymous
Right On! Ingrahm is an IDIOT. "For eight days" PLEASE! Lora you RULE!
Joe J |
03.26.06 - 2:06 pm | #
When guys and gals stop going gaga over one another we are in real trouble.
Please, give it a rest about the "sexist" charge. And double please, don't tie your charge into, and wrap it up in, "liberals" have the sense not to whistle at pretty girls but conservatives don't! Boys and girls, men and women of all stripes can appreciate a pretty or handsome face. No demarits are warranted for doing so.
Kitt |
03.26.06 - 2:06 pm | #
And I thought I'd never love again!
niki |
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03.26.06 - 2:07 pm | #
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James |
03.26.06 - 2:07 pm | #
Her looks are as irrelevant as Helen Thomas' or any other reporter's looks. [deleted]
A mortar attack hit the compound of Moqtada al-Sadr.....Shortly after the attack, the cleric issued this signed statement:
"We have received news that the occupation forces want to force the Iraqis into war and disaster -- especially my party, known as the Sadr trend. Thus, I call upon my brothers not to be dragged into the West's plots."
Hindy_Jones |
03.26.06 - 2:08 pm | #
Couple of thoughts.
First, Lara, I'll marry you right now. Gutsy, hot, smart. What more could you ask?
Second, I caught her piece on 60 Minutes a couple weeks back. It was actually a very positive segment on the troops' work in Talafar (sp?). She got the crap kicked out of her by a lot of our homies for it. For shame. These journalists can't win.
Third, I LOVED it when she rolled her eyes in the Kurtz interview when Howie told her of Laura Ingraham's "eight day tour."
Fourth, nothing to do with his, but I really hate Fox. Thought I'd "share the, er, hate..."
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The Muse |
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03.26.06 - 2:09 pm | #
That was a smackdown fer yer arse! Howie Putz is a complete and utter idiot. BTW, I don't think that's an English accent, I would guess it's Aussie. Sounds a bit like Michael Ware... And I'll join the choir in saying, not only is she intelligent and scrappy, but she's friggin' HOT!
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03.26.06 - 2:09 pm | #
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James |
03.26.06 - 2:12 pm | #
The fact that she's lovely is just added benifit. She's very clear and passionate about what she's saying. And dead on. People will listen to her more attentively beacuse she's also very good looking.
Hannity and the ugly guy, there's a set up for you. We need this gal and more like her. Fashion model revolution.
niki |
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03.26.06 - 2:13 pm | #
Will Anonymous and James please get back into class? Recess is over and you won't graduate 4th grade if you keep this up! Now, quit pulling at each other's pony tails! Geez...
Ben Dover |
03.26.06 - 2:15 pm | #
Anyway, please explain how the reporters looks warrant comment. How does it add to the information that she's reporting? And why do you feel so compelled to express your libidinal thoughts?
Admit it, you do honk the horn, don't you?
Anonymous |
03.26.06 - 2:16 pm | #
..."who says things aren't falling apart.."
She made Kurtz look like plodder.
What do Ingraham and Lieberman see in their 8 days in country are they wilfully turning a blind eye
Bill |
03.26.06 - 2:16 pm | #
"For eight days." Zing!
The Green Knight |
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03.26.06 - 2:17 pm | #
I love the way Lara laughs when told that Laura Ingraham had been in Iraq "for 8 days." BFD in bold neon all over her beautiful face!
skr |
03.26.06 - 2:18 pm | #
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O. Ben L |
03.26.06 - 2:18 pm | #
[deleted] Your point has been made. Stop attacking other posters.
The Bush family - including George II - have never done a thing selflessly for anyone. They are self absorbed social darwinists. What you see in Iraq is the direct result of policies created to benefit them politically (or in some cases financially - note I didnt say economically) at home. Its all about them and must in some way benefit them. This results in policies being implemented abroad that are quite simply insane - while they spin to the apparent benefit of the Bush regime.
Example - reconstruction, they are building schools for the Iraqi children. Spins well in the US. In a nation whose new constitution is connected to Sharia law in the same way as the constitution of Afghanistan, building schools simply saves the Saudis money in the Wahabist school building program they fund. Or do you actually think that the schools being built at the expense of US tax payers will actually provide a classical european style liberal education? The spin - we are building schools - the truth - we are entrenching fundamentalist islam. Why? The policy wasnt meant to make sense in Iraq. It was meant to provide political benefit (and profit) in the US.
The spin - we have trained xxx number of iraqi soldiers - the truth - those iraqi soldiers are under the influence at the very least if not control of sectarian Iraqi groups not the government.
Its all about smoke and mirrors and not about facts on the ground.
Why are they upset? The entire war was suppose to be to their benefit, the reports of the truth coming out of Iraq are anything but. They dont like that - the death and destruction they dont mind so much.
Jim B. |
03.26.06 - 2:20 pm | #
For the record, Lara Logan is South African.
Hindy_Jones | 03.26.06 - 2:08 pm | #
I was half asleep on the couch, but I'm pretty sure that CNN reported about 20 minutes ago that US troops are fighting militia groups in Baghdad. They seemed to be highlighting Sadr City (NE Baghdad) on their screen map, which got my attention since that is where I was during my tour in Iraq.
I'm glad to see Sadr's militias are more powerful than ever.
sal |
03.26.06 - 2:21 pm | #
By the way, that's accent is South African.
niki |
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03.26.06 - 2:22 pm | #
Anony,
Anyone voicing complimentary thoughts about Ms. Logan's beautiful looks somehow warrants a string of personal attacks from you?
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James |
03.26.06 - 2:22 pm | #
THATS how the dems need to frame this!!!
Republicans dont want us to honor the sacrifice of our brave soldiers! Opening water plants or oil fields are mrore important to report than the death of a brave soldier.
TruthStream |
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03.26.06 - 2:23 pm | #
That was a killer interview. Howie was back on his hells, and I thought Bill Bennet would pop.
Why isn't this lady on Television more? She is smart, tough and attracttive.
skip |
03.26.06 - 2:23 pm | #
Actually, it started as a general comment. You made it personal. So, yes, James, it does.
Anonymous |
03.26.06 - 2:25 pm | #
...you gotta admit, she is friggin' gorgeous. How is stating that fact sexist? [deleted]
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Ben Dover |
03.26.06 - 2:25 pm | #
That was a killer interview. Howie was back on his hells, and I thought Bill Bennet would pop.
Why isn't this lady on Television more? She is smart, tough and attracttive.
skip | 03.26.06 - 2:23 pm | #
She is a host (on occasion) on 60 minutes and is on CBS I believe frequently.
Jim B. |
03.26.06 - 2:26 pm | #
that tape will never be shown again on CNN or any other source. Man was that a smackdown to the idiot who kept the republican meme going by the tone of his questions.
Man what a putz he is.
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03.26.06 - 2:27 pm | #
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Right...just a general comment.
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James |
03.26.06 - 2:27 pm | #
Niki,
That was going to be my second guess...
Ben Dover |
03.26.06 - 2:27 pm | #
Would the site monitor eliminate the kids discussing logans appearance - pro and con?
Jim B. |
03.26.06 - 2:28 pm | #
I'd just like to say that Lara Logan is funny, a brilliant orator, and very smart.
She is the type of journalist that inspires more entrance into the field.
Joey |
03.26.06 - 2:30 pm | #
LOL I love how she says '8 days' at the end and laughs at that. What she could have said was '8 days that I guarantee was a PRE-ARRANGED trip SET UP by this administration for her to start this 'blame the media' line the GOP is spewing
TruthStream |
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03.26.06 - 2:30 pm | #
love the way Lara laughs when told that Laura Ingraham had been in Iraq "for 8 days." BFD in bold neon all over her beautiful face!
skr | 03.26.06 - 2:18 pm | #
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I couldn't agree more. That was perfect.
I also agree that you won't see that interview again.
wherecheney |
03.26.06 - 2:31 pm | #
To be fair, I don't honk the horn when I seem some toothsome woman walking around. I get out of my car, walk up to her, wink, and then say something smooth like Bogie
Bourbon and soda for everyone in this comments thread.
Master of the Flying Guillotin |
03.26.06 - 2:32 pm | #
I haven't seen this journalist on CNN before - BUT You Go Girl!
I think she has probably sacrificed her chances to go before the cameras again - but my oh my... her authenticity was refreshing.
SandThroughTheEyeGlass |
03.26.06 - 2:33 pm | #
Can't we just send all the right wing nut talk show hosts and pundits to Iraq to report on all the good news? Is that too much to ask?
Think about all that 8-Days Ingraham could accomplish if she spent, like, a whole year there. We could learn so much.
starwheel |
03.26.06 - 2:34 pm | #
Lara seems lovely inside as well as out. You go guys for pointing out the obvious. nothing wrong with that.
jeanne |
03.26.06 - 2:34 pm | #
Her "Eight days" plus grin aimed off-camera (probably to her crew, etc. who've been there far longer) was killer at the end.
Not like the Barbie/Ken Doll talking (air)heads appearing on most news networks.
argh |
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03.26.06 - 2:35 pm | #
I haven't seen this journalist on CNN before - BUT You Go Girl!
I think she has probably sacrificed her chances to go before the cameras again - but my oh my... her authenticity was refreshing.
SandThroughTheEyeGlass | 03.26.06 - 2:33 pm | #
I know I speak for all progressive, left-leaning hetero liberals here when I say I'd [deleted]
Er, what I meant was these attacks on the press' coverage of the tragic events in Iraq are a simple case of governmental misdirection in the face of their calamitous handling of the affair.
no soda in mine, please! on the rocks...
katy |
03.26.06 - 2:37 pm | #
Heck, Katy, I'll make yers a double.
Sam, play it.
Master of the Flying Guillotin |
03.26.06 - 2:39 pm | #
Er, what I meant was these attacks on the press' coverage of the tragic events in Iraq are a simple case of governmental misdirection in the face of their calamitous handling of the affair.
Gonzo | 03.26.06 - 2:37 pm | #
She is a married professional of major proportion. Drop the cute little girl crap. Read her bio above.
Ever been laughed at by a woman? Watch that video of logans response to ingrams trip to Iraq. That is what you would see if you ever tried ...
Lets all get back on point.
SITE MONITOR .....................
Jim B. |
03.26.06 - 2:39 pm | #
At last. A journalist worthy of my marriage proposal!
Chris Fleischman |
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03.26.06 - 2:40 pm | #
good god get off your high horse already.
so people are only allowed to comment on the physical appearance of someone if that is the purpose of watching this person? Following this logic I guess it is only appropriate to note how attractive someone is if you're watching a porno or fashion show then?
if the reporter were a man and looked like Brad Pitt I would certainly expect women to notice (or gay men).
Further, in my mind her whole personality was sexy.
It is shit like this that progressives get mocked for. [deleted]
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normal |
03.26.06 - 2:40 pm | #
Boo-yah!
We got us a new "scud stud". And she is a chick!
I loved the little eye brow thing she did at the end when Kurtz told her that Laura Ingraham was in country for eight days.
If she's really on TV then damn it, I'll go buy a TV.
Anyone angry that she's pretty and all the guys are gaga is jealous. This gal knows how to handle looks and she could be living on Park Ave. with a rich hubby yesterday but look where she is? Fuck me, this woman is an inspiration.
Really it's no joke how important it is that's she's beautiful. That carries weight in the eyes of humans.
Let it.
niki |
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03.26.06 - 2:41 pm | #
careful guys, she's married to a large, professional athlete....
i couldn't believe it when i saw her. i called my husband and said "hey, there's a little blonde girl kicking howies butt."
howie is a journalist the way cheney and bush are warriors. if howie is so worried about neglected "good" stories from iraq he should go over there and kick those lazy bums off their balconies and show them how it's done. and, if they prove too intransigent, he ought to just stay there himself and send in those heartwarming tales to cnn and the rest.
Whats my girlfriend doing on TV?
Taz |
03.26.06 - 2:42 pm | #
LL did an excellent job of reporting and defending journalists in Iraq.
I want to have her baby.
Silly Little American Boy |
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03.26.06 - 2:43 pm | #
Uncle Joe McCarthy | 03.26.06 - 1:34 pm
Not again. I guess Bush will call us racist again if we don't let communist China inspect our cargo.
Do you have a link for this mess?
tHeGaMeOfLiFe |
03.26.06 - 2:43 pm | #
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normal | 03.26.06 - 2:40 pm | #
Comment all you like in an appropriate forum, this is supposed to be about the coverage of the iraq war.
You are OT. [deleted]
Get back on topic.
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Jim B. |
03.26.06 - 2:43 pm | #
Logan's been there for more than eight days and doesn't find the need to cut and color her hair to try and look like one of the boys. Laura Ingraham is the worst example of a woman.
no new texas |
03.26.06 - 2:43 pm | #
jimb. = hall monitor?
what's with thAT?
and thanks, master..., a double will be fine...
katy |
03.26.06 - 2:44 pm | #
you betcha, mr. Normal. If reporter looked like Brad Pitt, or better yet George Clooney or Antonio Banderas, we indeed would be all over it.
jeanne |
03.26.06 - 2:45 pm | #
This blog is becoming as bad as majorityreport's blog. All fluff and personalities and very little substance.
Astronomers recently discovered that Laura Ingraham has been reporting from a hotel balcony on moon orbiting a planet orbiting Rigil Rigil Kentaurus.
Station Agent |
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03.26.06 - 2:49 pm | #
For all you site-monitors/hall-monitors out there, I have heard that Yahoo has instant messaging. Why don't you log on to that. That way you can control everything...every word...every direction of conversation. You will be. In. Control.
James |
03.26.06 - 2:50 pm | #
Brave, smart, well spoken and utterly hot. Wow.
Kurtz is a douche.
puredesighee |
03.26.06 - 2:52 pm | #
Actually i said "notice," not "be all over it"
And the normal part didn't refer to me (not by a long shot), but the idea of finding someone attractive. That said, if this is indeed OT, then I will cease.
How she responded was brillant. I most certainly agree that this should not be overshadowed. It is just the silly PC games we play that got to me.
What I really wish is simply that there were more like her on the air whatever the appearance may be.
It's normal to find someone at |
03.26.06 - 2:53 pm | #
Whoa! I think I'm in love!
BroD |
03.26.06 - 2:53 pm | #
Ok, it's disingenuous to think that Lara's looks are not part of this topic. This thread is about Lara Logan making Kurtz look like a fool during that interview. It's not some generic debate about the "blame the media" meme. There have been numerous threads about the media in Iraq over the last week or so. And each one deserves to be discussed in its own context, or else what's the point?
The context of this thread is LARA LOGAN interviewed by Kurtz. Yes, comments like "I'd do her" add nothing to the discussion. On the other hand, I see nothing wrong with acknowledging that she is physically (as well as intellectually) attractive. Let's face it, if the fact that she's reporting the news from Iraq causes more young John Q. Bubbas to listen and pay attention, then we should all be happy about that.
sal |
03.26.06 - 2:56 pm | #
Watch that video of logans response to ingrams trip to Iraq. That is what you would see if you ever tried ...
Anything to see those pretty pearly whites of hers again.
Ok I'm kidding. Seriously, didn't mean to get anyone's back up about commenting on LL's allure - humour was my only intention and didn't mean to sully this forum with such pig-headed vileness. Shame on me. I'll go be manly elsewhere.
Gonzo |
03.26.06 - 2:59 pm | #
damn, she's married ..... oh yeah, so am i
tofubo |
03.26.06 - 2:59 pm | #
Lara Logan instead of our MSM ladys....she could give me bad or good news then.
I know, beat me up with this statement, but mr. happy says..F*** YOU.
wisedup |
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03.26.06 - 3:04 pm | #
Can I buy her a few drinks when she gets back???
Marine |
03.26.06 - 3:06 pm | #
Yeah damnit, and no more, "I want to have Keith Olbermann's baby" out of the womenfolk et al.
Z-man |
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03.26.06 - 3:07 pm | #
Here is the first ten bucks to send Laura Ingraham back to Iraq. Let a camera follow her 24/7 so we can get the real picture...Shortly therafter I'm sure Regis will be doing his show there too...
dawg |
03.26.06 - 3:16 pm | #
I want to have Keith Olberman's baby.
That's totally unacceptable. This is a serious forum for serious people talking about serious things.
Gonzo |
03.26.06 - 3:17 pm | #
I want that beautiful babe Lara Logan to have babies with me, lots and lots of babies!
Taz |
03.26.06 - 3:17 pm | #
I wonder how in the heck the wingers are going to battle back on this interview. She nailed it. Igraham is made to look like a loon and a joke deserving of comtempt.
you with fox security gonzo?
wisedup |
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03.26.06 - 3:18 pm | #
Anyone see the '8 Days Ingraham' nickname catching on? Would a web campaign make it stick?
Gonzo |
03.26.06 - 3:19 pm | #
I just hope she's very careful out there in Iraq because in away she slammed George.
Taz |
03.26.06 - 3:19 pm | #
wisedup I think Gonzo was joking!
Taz |
03.26.06 - 3:20 pm | #
Shortly therafter I'm sure Regis will be doing his show there too...
dawg
If we could only be so lucky...
Marine |
03.26.06 - 3:21 pm | #
Lara Logan
Executive summary: smart, articulate, very attractive and eviscerates any Republican patsy ass talking points with ease.
Lara LoganBorn: 29-Mar-1971
Birthplace: Durban, South Africa
Gender: Female
Ethnicity: White
Sexual orientation: Straight
Occupation: Journalist
Father: Derek (businessman)
Mother: Yolanda (known as Yoli, homemaker)
Sister: Lisa
Brother: Greg
Boyfriend: Mark Olivier (reporter, broken engagement)
Husband: Jason Siemon (m. 1999)
High School: Durban Girls College, Durban, South Africa
University: University of Natal, Durban, South Africa (1992)
University: Universite de L'Alliance Francaise, Paris, France
Trespassing Calais, France (23-May-2002)
Italian Ancestry Maternal
TELEVISION
CBS Evening News Correspondent (2005-)
60 Minutes II Contributing Correspondent (2002-)
km4 |
03.26.06 - 3:21 pm | #
The right-wing robo-pundits getting smacked down by a reporter who is intelligent and sincere, and who happens also to be beautiful: I don't call that sexist, I call it a trifecta.
rollotomasi |
03.26.06 - 3:22 pm | #
I agree, she should go on every show and say exactly what she said.
Hey Laura Ingram, go fuck yourself for 8 days.
ManofSouthTX |
03.26.06 - 3:22 pm | #
Lara is the bomb
It is about time someone spoke the truth from the MSM maybe now that this young women has shown that she has a bigger set of balls then most of the other MSM so called journalist,
GPH |
03.26.06 - 3:23 pm | #
Laura Logan = Brilliant!!!!
Murrow would be proud
And as for making a reference to a beautiful woman, Men have been getting slapped around for even making a "Kind" comment to some women.
I say "Enough"..It's time for men to not feel compelled to hold back. If you think a woman is hot, TELL HER, and don't be ashamed of it. I bet 10 percent might slap your ears back, the other 90. would love it. Political correctness has gone wrong ,in the natural process of men attraction to women (and vise-versa)
Just be nice... not crass. ANd I bet Ms'Logan would love it as well.
Clydesalerno |
03.26.06 - 3:24 pm | #
Please C&L always keep the Lara Logan video up at this site! For the substance of the interview, yeah thats why!
Taz |
03.26.06 - 3:24 pm | #
sorry posted to soon
Now maybe others will start to report the truth
GPH |
03.26.06 - 3:24 pm | #
Is [deleted] hot or what? Look at her eyebrows when she says "8 days" That is a woman with charisma...
I hope Logan doesn't issue an apology later on. She was right on.
smskater |
03.26.06 - 3:26 pm | #
All any of the reporter, like Tara Logan, Mike Ware, Nik Robertson or others, has to say is "Anyone who says we're not reporting good news can come to Iraq and we can find those good news stories together."
Unimpressed |
03.26.06 - 3:26 pm | #
I've never heard the words "8 days" spoken with soooo much venom.
Jeffrey Davis |
03.26.06 - 3:26 pm | #
Based on the history of conflict it would be news worthy if the Iraq Appropriation (others call it a war) were going well. A Christian country led by president who uses the word "Crusade" in pre-appropriation rhetoric invaded an oil-rich islamic country and started to sell the country's assets. Think of the impact of watching "Shock and Awe" enacted on an American city. Imagine having American resources sold by your conqueror. Imagine having your churches and religious monuments destroyed. The wounds inflicted would not heal quickly. There are many followers of Islam who are still not pleased with the original Crusade.
Iraq has one twelth the population of the US. The death toll for the Iraqi population (>30,000) during the appropriation is proportionately more than 100 times 9/11 for the US. Can you imagine 100 times 9/11? That should make the news. Imagine all the stories of 9/11 multiplied by 12.
It may be a few centuries before the damage is undone.
anonymous |
03.26.06 - 3:30 pm | #
Slam dunk, set and match, touchdown, homerun, score, goal, check and mate, atari, and gin.
Laura Logan was the most impressive individual I have seen on TV in a long time. She was more concise and informative in that short clip than a years worth of listening to Chris Matthews blather on.
I found it interesting that the reporters can't report the "good stuff" as the military doesn't want to jepordize the schools and other "good stuff" by bringing attention to it. This doesn't sound so good to me.
SF |
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03.26.06 - 3:35 pm | #
Someone out there sure feels threatened by Lara Logan who just happens to be a beautiful female reporter with brains..."Tara" Logan?! She has more brains in one pore then Tara Reid has in her head, but then again Tara Reid is not looked at for her brains now is she?
Taz |
03.26.06 - 3:36 pm | #
Very first post in the Peter Daou thread below:
" say, he's kinda sexy...."
(which he is, by the way)
Number of Puritan responses: 0
Double standard or full of shit? You make the call!
Anonymous |
03.26.06 - 3:36 pm | #
xoites defends Constitution | Homepage | 03.26.06 - 3:31 pm | #
Excuse me, i should have been more precise.
Laura Ingraham Go Fish!
xoites defends Constitution |
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03.26.06 - 3:38 pm | #
King Canute discovered what "Dead Eye" Dick and Chimpy are only just now realizing....
Reality bites.
The MSM is pissed and they are going to take it out on the cowardly criminals of the right-wing...
Why?
For the only reason that matter is in America: It's good for business.
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A. Citizen |
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03.26.06 - 3:38 pm | #
Here's an illustration as to how America has benefited so much from immigration and foreign "brain drain".
Logan is from abroad, South Africa I believe, and is aware of international standards of "educated opinion" and of what is journalism.
Most American TV "journalists" today are not, they are more provincial, more blindly nationalist and jingoistic, and seemingly feel acutely the US social pressure, especially since Reagan, to not be "too critical" of (Republican-branded) authority, if at all. That's not journalism, that's stenography for those in authority (power). The Republicans at every turn seek to discredit ANY criticism of their exercise of authority- evading responsibility, shifting blame, being the GOP weasels they are.
So this is where America has arrived particularly in the Chimpy Bush era/error and it needs to be called what it is, that what we have right now is Texas-style Republican fake-Christian authoritarianism.
It was predictable that Kurtz would save that Ingraham "zinger" (in his mind) for the end. As soon as Logan referred to Ingraham as being safe in a Manhattan studio you knew Kurtz would mention Ingraham traveled to Iraq. But Logan did well to point out the lack of substance in Kurtz's remarks right away, which didn't take much. Most American "journalists" these days wouldn't have shot that remark back to Kurtz, wouldn't want to be seen as "rude". Sometimes we require people from abroad to come here and cut through this American Bull Shit.
impeachthechimp |
03.26.06 - 3:39 pm | #
I.S.P. thx. | Homepage | 03.26.06 - 1:43 pm
Ms. Ingraham might have been walking down the Kuwaiti streets. No wonder she is clueless.
EZ |
03.26.06 - 3:40 pm | #
I wouldn't worry about it. Eventually Peter Daou and Laura Logan will run into each other and the rest of us will be out of luck.
xoites defends Constitution |
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03.26.06 - 3:41 pm | #
What a great clip, you go girl, don't let the partisan cowards and hacks that call themselves journalists rule this debate. Speak truth to power. We're counting on you.
The part at the end where he tries to cut her off and set the "record" straight about Ingraham was a classic. Lara, don't let these assclowns push you around. Their worst nightmare is coming up November 5th.
bmw 528 |
03.26.06 - 3:41 pm | #
Lara Logan certainly presented one of the most articulate and intelligent and insightful discussions of Iraq, that has been heard on the airwaves, explaining, logically, that people getting shot and blown up constitute much more of a major story than the opening of a school. No matter how much O'Reilly and Ms. Ingraham want to spin it, covering war and civil strife tops all the other miniscule feel good stories that may happen in Iraq. I also think that comments about Ms. Logan's appearance are totally irrelevant to how she reports a story. What is important is her truth-telling, not how she looks when she reports that story in front of her camera. I suspect that she realizes that, unlike a Paula Zahn, she wasn't hired to be a Barbie Doll, but to report the facts and not act like a cheerleader for the military and the Bush Administration.
Erroll |
03.26.06 - 3:41 pm | #
The pictures of Ingram in the shooting range are like an ad out of a gun magazine with a half clothed woman holding a machine gun.
The captions are sophmoric.
What a bunch of BS.
Notice that the pictures of her with Iraqi soldiers have the faces blacked out. If things are so good, why can't those soldiers show their faces?
Lara is amazing. She looks and sounds like a passionate and seasoned war correspondent. Ingram looks like an American tourist on some strange Iraq war vacation.
petewsh61 |
03.26.06 - 3:44 pm | #
Whats with the Anonymous posters at this site? Can't you just come up with a name like "A Woman Scorned" or "Butt Munch" The last name was not meant for the last Anonymous post! It is just an example.
But if you like it and want to use it please send a check or money order of $59.99 to~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Taz |
03.26.06 - 3:44 pm | #
"Whats with the Anonymous posters at this site?"
That last one was me. Forgot to fill in my name.
Tom |
03.26.06 - 3:46 pm | #
It is rather absurd that anyone would believe what Bush has said about the coverage just on the face of it. To now find out that reporters are not even ALLOWED to cover the "good" news in Iraq and are being trashed for not doing so defies all logic. Then again, that is the hallmark of this Administration.
xoites defends Constitution |
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03.26.06 - 3:47 pm | #
Mr. Daou might have inspired her to do so. Go for it.
EZ |
03.26.06 - 3:49 pm | #
I must say i am disapointed to hear she is married, oh well...
xoites defends Constitution |
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03.26.06 - 3:51 pm | #
"Eight days..." yeah.
Kurtz=Wanker=Bushite scumbag
He has now been placed on my "no watch list..." which means I consider him unworthy of the time it takes to listen to anything he says.
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A. Citizen |
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03.26.06 - 3:53 pm | #
He's running out of people to blame for his long list of failures.
Maybe someday to the horror of the christian right he will claim "The devil made me do it" (Flip Wilson)
Taz |
03.26.06 - 3:54 pm | #
Ingram was NOT in Iraq for 8 days by my count.
I visited the link above (posted by ISP) which says Ingram's first day in Iraq was on Feb. 5 and photos from the journey home are dated Feb. 11. That is not 8 days. That is not even a week.
Michelle |
03.26.06 - 3:55 pm | #
It appears we're having a multifaceted discussion.
What makes Lara remarkable is the power and passion of her words. She cuts straight to the heart (thump, thump) of the issue, viz.: when reporters and Irazis can't go anywhere in Iraq because of security problems, then security has become the story.
Yeh, she's easy to look at AND to listen to. Unlike 95% of the witless talking hairstyles on network "news," you can believe she could exist without a TelePrompTer.
I wouldn't care if she looked like Phyllis Diller though. Eloquence and passion are a wonderful thing to hear from a reporter. Wish there were more like her.
Brian ain't lyin' |
03.26.06 - 3:55 pm | #
Speaking of Laura Ingraham, I went to her website and found this quote, does anyone have another sourve for this?
"I'm not about to give this man who was captured in a war a full jury trial. I mean it's crazy."
-- The Hon. Antonin Scalia, at a private event in Europe, commenting generally on military detainees' const'l rights
Marine |
03.26.06 - 3:55 pm | #
"Lara Logan Born: 29-Mar-1971"
i plan to send a birthday greeting and kudos for a great job of speaking truth to power!
we sure need more of that - lots more!
katy |
03.26.06 - 3:56 pm | #
Lara Logan for President
marcki al canuckstani |
03.26.06 - 3:56 pm | #
It would seem to me that if Scalia thinks this is a war then we ought to be following the geneva Conventions.
Marine |
03.26.06 - 3:57 pm | #
Very good point Marine.
Taz |
03.26.06 - 4:00 pm | #
"She's beautiful, well spoken, intelligent" Agreed ten thousand percent!
Her brains and spirit are very appealing But I think she's south african folks!!!!
And very well qualified for her job. I've been watching her since her reporting afganistan.
Oh yeah.. not only is she sexy as hell... She's one brave soul that stands head and shoulders above most others
Anonymous |
03.26.06 - 4:00 pm | #
"I'm not about to give this man who was captured in a war a full jury trial. I mean it's crazy."
-- The Hon. Antonin Scalia, at a private event in Europe, commenting generally on military detainees' const'l rights
Marine | 03.26.06 - 3:55 pm | #
The War on Narrative
aussieboy |
03.26.06 - 4:04 pm | #
Ah, yes, we will follow the law until it gets personal. Then we will break the law to get what we want. Sounds like the mantra of the Republican Party.
xoites defends Constitution |
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03.26.06 - 4:05 pm | #
What makes a woman truly sexy? Is it a winning smile, perfect cheekbones, bedroom eyes, shapely legs, gravity-defying breasts or an ass one could bounce a quarter on?
NO! IT IS NONE OF THESE THINGS!
It's a take-no-shit-from-right-wing-wankers attitude. It's not just Lara Logan. Take Randi Rhodes. Sure, she has the second best rack to ever appear on C-Span, is tall, blond and curvy with a sexy voice. But what really makes her a goddess among women is the way tells off right-wing morons. The way she reduced Janet Parshall to putting her fingers in her ears and shouting "La-la-la I can't hear you!" gave me a chubby. Katrina VandenHeuvel is also hot as hell for reducing that pretentious little twerp George Will to muttering incoherent nonsense.
Sure Lara Logan could be Nicole Kidman's sister. But that's not what makes her so hot. When she read the riot act to that fucktard Howard Kurtz, flashed her smile and pimp-slapped that racist skank Laura Ingraham by saying "eight days"...
Thanks for the links. I think my mind would explode if I went through all that Rice. I may have to take it a grain at a time.
tHeGaMeOfLiFe |
03.26.06 - 4:10 pm | #
Xanax help! So does looking and listening to LARA.
What a joke those pics are. When I see her sunbathing in Iraq then I will know all is well.
I didn't see one school, one theater, no higways (you know the ones where the military shoot innocent Iraqi drivers while listening to rock music), no hospitals/doctors, no mosques, no open markets, no Iraqis' houses and no families. What a sham. She was always around the military.
Another self-serving publicity stunt brought to you by a freakin chickenhawk.
tHeGaMeOfLiFe |
03.26.06 - 4:21 pm | #
Heyward Jablomey, absolutely right about this woman. Although I have to say Randi Rhodes' voice has killed small animals.
Steve G |
03.26.06 - 4:22 pm | #
You forgot Scarborough and Newt Gingrich.
EZ
ugh! ummmmm... Thanks for reminding me?
Pete |
03.26.06 - 4:24 pm | #
tHeGaMeOfLiFe | 03.26.06 - 4:21 pm
and NO fighting...IN A WARZONE !!!
Time to bring the boys home. We're DONE.
The day after Ingraham's meltdown with David Gregory and James Carville, Gregory ran a report from their main reporter in Iraq which included some great stuff about how they now rehearse their pieces, etc. (I forget the reporter's name, but he's a little hottie. So sue me.)
He filed ANOTHER report which I waited for 3 hours to get repeated on MSNBC Saturday between 1:30 and 4:30 but it never happened -- it's not like a dead minister, after all -- some of the same stuff from the previous weekday report, but new details included: how the press folks now cook for each other and socialize because, well, because they can't go out.
It seems like it would be an excellent piece to join the previous one from the same guy -- maybe a little section of reporters FINALLY talking about not only their hardships, but the clear manipulation going on. It is this latter point which I find most astounding is finally getting treated with candor.
TonyRz |
03.26.06 - 4:26 pm | #
This BABE is awesome!
bushsuckcheney |
03.26.06 - 4:26 pm | #
anonymous | 03.26.06 - 2:00 pm
We have to outsource security. Those are the jobs that not even Black folks want.
{{snarky snark snark}}
tHeGaMeOfLiFe |
03.26.06 - 4:27 pm | #
Anonymous, please deal with your issues in another forum. Guys like to look at women. It's nothing personal. I'm sure if she wasn't as attactive but still had that personality many people would find her sexy.
Steve G |
03.26.06 - 4:29 pm | #
Bravissima! I've watched this three times so far.
Stewart |
03.26.06 - 4:29 pm | #
Jesus, she's a whole lot of hot.
Internet Friend |
03.26.06 - 4:31 pm | #
I would like to see Ms. Logan debate with Hannity and Coulter for a change.
I detest Hannity's arrogance, (the biggest liar of the year). I am sure he will not let Ms. Logan counter her view.
Just a reminder, Ms. Logan should slam Hannity when he interrupts.
Also, Coulter having ADD, will attack and not debate. Please stick to your guns. LOL
EZ |
03.26.06 - 4:31 pm | #
Wow. Lara Logan sure is hot.
Steve |
03.26.06 - 4:32 pm | #
She's absolutely right!
Who is saying these things.
Some things have come up, and I was thinking about how people were labeled unpatriotic and it quickly became vogue to say people didn't support the soldiers. It had to be the Fox who started that, and of course they just made it up. Whoever said we didn't support the soldiers. I don't know one person who hasn't done everything possible (except maybe buy one of those stupid stickers and those crazy baptists that showed up at funeral yelling vile things) to help our men, women, daughters, sons, brothers, sisters, father, and mothers.
That should have been corrected so fast, that the radical rights heads would have spun like Linda Blair's:
We support the soldiers.
We don't support the war.
Anonymous |
03.26.06 - 4:34 pm | #
Okay, this chick is smart and hot, and this is coming from a straight, white female. And she's got a set of brass balls. I could call her a bitch if I was insecure, but I'm not. So guys, I'm not threatened by you saying you'd want to do her. If she was a stupid talking head, well then I'd want to smack you up side the head for trying to pollute the gene pool.
Strawberrybitch |
03.26.06 - 4:34 pm | #
A/c to the slimy Gingrich, the dems are attacking their base because they want to win the next elections.
He called it,"strategy of the dems."
Come on, Mr. Gingrich, do you suffer from ADD like your president?
EZ |
03.26.06 - 4:38 pm | #
We support the soldiers.
We don't support the war.
Anonymous | 03.26.06 - 4:34 pm | #
Sorry! I shall not support the soldiers after what I saw on the videos.
Either they refuse orders or they come home.
Media, hold the generals responsible.
EZ |
03.26.06 - 4:40 pm | #
"Guys like to look at women."
Speak for yourself, Steve G. I'm busy drooling over mr. Daou and Markos in other threads... although even I have to admit that Lara is easy on the eyes, as it were.
"Competition Ain't Nothin"
~ Carl Carlton
Pete |
03.26.06 - 4:46 pm | #
A brilliant piece of reporting. Certain to go down in media coverage of this war as a prize winning smack down. And yes, the fact that she is a "classic" beauty is very relevant. Like it or not, people respond more positivly to a pretty face (be it male or female). Lara Logan will command attention no matter what she says. The fact that she speaks truth to power with such intelligence and passion is substantial, her good looks and charm are the icing on the cake...
kelven |
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03.26.06 - 4:58 pm | #
"Like it or not, people respond more positively to a pretty face"
On television, a visual medium?!?!
What the hell are you talking about?
< / snark >
Pete |
03.26.06 - 5:03 pm | #
What were the great stories that Ingraham brought back. I didn't see them.
Blomi |
03.26.06 - 5:06 pm | #
I would follow her anywhere.
Will Somerset |
03.26.06 - 5:07 pm | #
Has the experience too it appears:
LARA LOGAN • TV Newscaster
Lara Logan's reports from Afghanistan, Iraq and other global hot spots earned her a job reporting for CBS News in 2002. Only 31 at the time, Logan had already spent more than a dozen years in the news business, beginning with jobs writing for The Daily News and The Sunday Tribune of Durban, South Africa while attending the University of Natal. After graduating in 1992 she worked in a wide variety of journalism jobs: as a producer for Reuters Television, a freelance correspondent for CNN, and as a correspondent for the British morning news program GMTV, where she began to be known for her international reporting. Upon joining CBS in 2002 she became a correspondent for the network's radio news and the magazine program 60 Minutes II as well as for The CBS Evening News. Logan's good looks are part of her story: she modeled swimsuits for local advertisements while in college, was a favorite of British tabloids while with GMTV, and was called a "War Zone 'It Girl'" in a 2005 New York Times profile. She has been mentioned as one possible successor to Dan Rather as anchor or co-anchor of The CBS Evening News.
Extra credit: Logan married pro basketball player Jason Siemon in 1999; Siemon was born in Iowa but has played professionally in Europe.
CBS News reporters of the past include Walter Cronkite and Edward R. Murrow.
She should be anchor |
03.26.06 - 5:08 pm | #
Most American journalists have been too conditioned to be that honest; I think you can chalk this up to her Britishness.
Sure, usually a stiff upper lip, but when common sense flies out the window as it often does in America, they'll be the first to set us straight.
THEO |
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03.26.06 - 5:10 pm | #
petewsh61 | 03.26.06 - 3:44 pm
HAHAHAHA Her captions were like someone at Disney World. "A cute Iraqi kid" not a well fed, safe Iraqi child. Or a Iraqi children going to school.
She is pathetic.
tHeGaMeOfLiFe |
03.26.06 - 5:11 pm | #
That dick Kurtz pointed out that Nazi-chick Ingraham was in Iraq for 8 whole days. But he neglected to say it was 8 days in the a protective bubble of military hyper-security, surrounded by the hand-picked shills that gets briefed on how to suck up to Rummy and to Fox. Ingraham is evil, and so is Kurtz for defending her.
raker |
03.26.06 - 5:13 pm | #
Logan's comment on Ingrahams' specious attack of 'balcony journalism' was the most telling in the entire clip.
Kurtz goes out of his way to mention that Ingraham had in fact been in Iraq last month for 'eight days;' obviously attempting to place Ingraham on the same plain as Logan who has been reporting there for nearly three years.
that was fantastic.
she rocked.
leftie |
03.26.06 - 5:28 pm | #
Kurtz needs to spend the same omount of time in Iraq reporting as Logan and tell us the TRUTH as he see's it, not as this admin see's it
Greg |
03.26.06 - 5:28 pm | #
KurtzH@washpost.com
Think he knows he was owned ? LOL
Jerry Aldini |
03.26.06 - 5:30 pm | #
Yeah, Mike, we get it. You're in love. Right in line behind the other dweebs.
Anonymous |
03.26.06 - 5:30 pm | #
[delete] Please limit your comments to the topic and not other posters.
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human atrocity |
03.26.06 - 5:32 pm | #
yeah...
put her on the CBS evening news... and even the ordinary conservative would be fine with whatever she said...
talk about a ratings boost...
doing the broadcast in a swimsuit would be a fine idea!!!!
Peter Hollman |
03.26.06 - 5:34 pm | #
Good for her.
The reporters are going to have to start fighting back, just like they did when the conservatives tried to sweep Katrina under the rug.
The Bushies want to bury Iraq, and the network suits couldn't care less about real reporting. They just don't want to piss off the Bushies. So it's again up to the reporters themselves to say "Wait a minute. This is what's happening and it's important not to fudge the facts."
It's too bad the Republicans who run the corporate media won't stand behind their best reporters, but they won't.
Bush Bites |
03.26.06 - 5:36 pm | #
She's brave, intelligent, articulate and damned sexy.
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James |
03.26.06 - 5:38 pm | #
Good God I'm in Love, deep, deep, deeply in love.
Screw Bush |
Homepage |
03.26.06 - 5:43 pm | #
KurtzH@washpost.com
Think he knows he was owned ? LOL
Jerry Aldini |
03.26.06 - 5:47 pm | #
Lara Logan and Betty Nguyen...mmmmm, I love the news.
korutenshi |
03.26.06 - 5:50 pm | #
Someone give her a show. That was one of the best interviews by a journalist I have seen in awhile. I think Logan has a new fan base.
Chris |
03.26.06 - 6:01 pm | #
PERFECT!
The Executive Director of the 9/11 Commission states the following:
”Why would Iraq attack America or use nuclear weapons against us? I'll tell you what I think the real threat (is) and actually has been since 1990 -- it's the threat against Israel,” Zelikow told a crowd at the University of Virginia on Sep. 10, 2002, speaking on a panel of foreign policy experts assessing the impact of 9/11 and the future of the war on the al-Qaeda terrorist organization.
”And this is the threat that dare not speak its name, because the Europeans don't care deeply about that threat, I will tell you frankly. And the American government doesn't want to lean too hard on it rhetorically, because it is not a popular sell,” said Zelikow.
The statements are the first to surface from a source closely linked to the Bush administration acknowledging that the war, which has so far cost the lives of nearly 600 U.S. troops and thousands of Iraqis, was motivated by Washington's desire to defend the Jewish state.
human atrocity, well said.
Steve G |
03.26.06 - 6:05 pm | #
Truth,how refreshing is it to hear for a change.We need more of her.
Baldwin |
03.26.06 - 6:23 pm | #
"Logan's good looks are part of her story: she modeled swimsuits for local advertisements while in college, was a favorite of British tabloids while with GMTV, and was called a "War Zone 'It Girl'" in a 2005 New York Times profile. She has been mentioned as one possible successor to Dan Rather as anchor or co-anchor of The CBS Evening News."
al |
03.26.06 - 6:24 pm | #
Read a GREAT Letter to the Editor!!
Chris Fleischman |
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03.26.06 - 6:25 pm | #
[deleted] I really don't know her, but her report here was excellent. I loved it. Unfortunately, all of the pre-pubescent drooling going on here is getting in the way of what is excellent, honest reporting.
I think all of your assumptions about what I am and who I am are quite funny.
I'm not intimidated by anyone saying how pretty she is (or acting like [deleted] who've never seen a woman before). Why should I? I happen to be a man. I agree she's a fetching woman. So what? That has nothing to do with her reporting.
Tell you what. Why not show her some respect and not act like little boys with a Playboy magazine?
Rather sad to see this kind of childishness from people who usually have salient things to say.
How did he get the jobs he has. He would certainly be first runnerup to Doug Feith in the f'ing stupidest man on the face of the earth pagent.
RJJ |
03.26.06 - 6:30 pm | #
Lara Logan and Betty Nguyen...mmmmm, I love the news.
korutenshi |
03.26.06 - 6:32 pm | #
One last thing. In spite of what you may take from the tone of my posts, I am not offended so much as amused both by your childishness and your response to my chiding you for it.
Anonymous |
03.26.06 - 6:32 pm | #
"One last thing. In spite of what you may take from the tone of my posts, I am not offended so much as amused both by your childishness and your response to my chiding you for it.
Anonymous | 03.26.06 - 6:32 pm |"
Which is, of course, why you posted over a dozen times, telling people to STFU and calling them creeps. Because you were amused.
And that wasn't your last post.
Tom |
03.26.06 - 6:38 pm | #
Anonymous,
Why are you so obsessed with chastising anyone who speaks to Lara's obvious and extremely rare, incredibly good looks?
She is beautiful.
She is sexy.
She is intelligent.
She is brave.
Why does it get under your craw so?
James |
03.26.06 - 6:39 pm | #
" We get it, korutenshi. [deleted]
Anonymous | 03.26.06 - 6:33 pm | # "
... Guys like to look at women. It's nothing personal...
Steve G | 03.26.06 - 4:29 pm |
... Like it or not, people respond more positivly to a pretty face (be it male or female)...
kelven | 03.26.06 - 4:58 pm |
Steve, don't you think looking at women in an impersonal way might be part of the problem?
Kelven, I guess that explains why most TV women are young and beautiful while most TV men (who continue to significantly outnumber women) are old and ugly.
You can be sure that Ms. Logan has long since had far more than her share of impersonal come-ons. Be your better selves and focus on her courage and her work. In this clip, she is showing more understanding and courage than we usually see in weeks of American TV. Honor her by respecting her choices and acknowledging her work, not by superficial responses to phenotypic traits.
Yet another intelligent beauti |
03.26.06 - 6:54 pm | #
James, I'm not the one commenting about the reporter's beauty. It's not relevant to her professionalism. It's disrespectful to her to do so. The comments get worse after that.
Anonymous |
03.26.06 - 6:54 pm | #
I guess feminism is finally dead. Another victory for the right-wing. Oh, well.
Anonymous |
03.26.06 - 6:55 pm | #
[deleted]
Stop the personal attacks.
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James |
03.26.06 - 6:55 pm | #
Move over Ann Coulter.....you got nothing on her. The camera LOVES her. She was great!
Pat |
03.26.06 - 6:55 pm | #
"If you don't understand the difference between commenting on male and female attractiveness in connection with their jobs, [deleted]"
Y'know, it's funny. As a progressive, when I am faced with someone who truly wants an answer on ...say sexism, or homophobia or racism, or any of the hundred of other things progressives are ostensibly "about," one thing I don't do - one thing I would never do - is reply by telling them they're just to dumb to understand.
You may think you're upholding liberal ideals here, "anonymous" (and we won't even get into your fear of using an actual name), but you are in fact betraying them terribly in order to feel morally superior to the people around you.
Ok, I'll be a man for two seconds and get it off my chest. She is beautiful. Given what I've been blogging about for the last week, I need a moment of levity. Ok, back to being serious.
When I'm watching the news I'm looking for information, not a date. I'll tell you what makes her beautiful - she is a tough, smart, talented and tenacious reporter. See her work from Iraq and Afghanistan and you can't help but admire her courage. I love listening to her and Michael Ware of TIME magazine - both have enormous passion for reporting and both go to great lengths to get the word out. We have some great reporters risking their lives, and these two are amongst the best and the bravest. Laura Ingraham is a joke compared to these two. Earlier I wrote a post about Hugh Hewitt vs. Michael Ware and what a non-contest that was. Laura Ingraham vs. Lara Logan is a similar mismatch. I know class when I see it, and I know trash when I see it.
To close, it seems quite obvious that if it aint safe enough to walk around in Iraq, it is kind of a no brainer that things are pretty bad and there really aren't any happy stories.
Mash |
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03.26.06 - 6:56 pm | #
I'm just expressing my opinion, which I believe is correct. I'm not calling you stupid, Tom. [delete] You clearly do not understand what you are saying, because of your attitude toward women. You are a strong case for the argument I hear from muslim women that Islam respects women more than Western culture. Mind you, I don't believe that for a moment, but your attitude certainly helps that case to be made.
...leave politics to people with brains in their heads, [deleted].
Anonymous | 03.26.06 - 6:51 pm | #
so, you are here because...?
i could be mistaken, but i don't remember a thing of political interest that you have brought up, anonymous...and it is so obvious that you are not a "man"...
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James |
03.26.06 - 7:02 pm | #
OK, color me another sexist who's in serious crush right now. That woman should be on TV every single night speaking truth to power. Can you imagine how much influence she'd have? You almost can't take your eyes off of her. But that's just the frosting. The cake is a serious fire inside. Wow.
aandy |
03.26.06 - 7:02 pm | #
"I'm just expressing my opinion, which I believe is correct. I'm not calling you stupid, Tom. [deleted] You clearly do not understand what you are saying, because of your attitude toward women. You are a strong case for the argument I hear from muslim women that Islam respects women more than Western culture. Mind you, I don't believe that for a moment, but your attitude certainly helps that case to be made.
Anonymous | 03.26.06 - 7:01 pm | # "
Unbelievable. I asked you a direct question: How does merely commenting a woman's physical beauty constitute sexim? You can't answer it. You've had several opportunities now and you keep coming back to insults instead of explanations.
And what exactly is my attitude toward women, anonymous? You seem to be very sure of what it is. What is it?
Its ugly when liberals fight. Please arrange the firing squad in a line and not a circle facing inward, thank you
Mash |
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03.26.06 - 7:06 pm | #
She's married to a gigantic european basketball player...
gol-darn-it...
Anonymous | 03.26.06 - 6:59 pm | #
Another Anonymous. But, gol-darn-it, you can still fantasize, can't you?
That's really all you guys want anyway, isn't it? You don't really know anything about this reporter. You don't know her personally. You see her and think, wow, pretty and is smart (sure got a purdy mouth too), "to boot," then you want to marry her?
Anonymous |
03.26.06 - 7:06 pm | #
I'm telling you. You think the soldiers are going to be the only ones coming back angry as hell, wait until you see the reporters. Laura needs her head bashed into a curb. Stupid bitch!
Al |
03.26.06 - 7:07 pm | #
Notice the contrast between the brave journalist, Lara Logan and the harsh Republican mouthpiece, Laura Ingraham. Lara is courageous, elegant, and highly articulate. Laura is negative, mannish, and a hypocrite.
And I'll just reiterate what so many others have pointed out: attractive men in journalism and politics have their attractiveness commented on constantly. Brian Williams, Anderson Cooper, John Edwards, and yes, George Clooney.
Tom |
03.26.06 - 7:08 pm | #
"How does merely commenting a woman's physical beauty constitute sexim?"
I can, but I'm not here to teach you about feminist theory and the realities of gender relations. Why don't you study it a bit. It'll do you wonders, Tom.
And, by the way, the comments go beyond "merely commenting on a woman's physical beauty." [deleted]
"Tom, I can and you haven't, otherwise you wouldn't be such a sexist person."
I'm sexist for asking you a question that you can't answer? Wow, has THAT bar been lowered.
Tom |
03.26.06 - 7:16 pm | #
Attractive women and attractive men - especially if they are in the public eye - are going to have their attractiveness commented on. Merely commenting on a woman's attractiveness does not constitute sexism in and of itself as far as I can see. And considering that you STILL haven't answered the question AND you've added "ass" to the list of indicators that you are not offended, I'm convinced that I'm correct on this one.
Wow, I used to think she was vapid and underfed, but I guess I was wrong. The blonde look works well for her too.
Oh wait, I was thinking of Lindsay Lohan.
snoozer |
03.26.06 - 7:23 pm | #
Might I suggest that we direct some firepower at Laura Ingraham and the Orwellian crowd for a moment
Leave Lara alone - just accept that she is beautiful and smart. I know women who drool over Anderson Cooper all the time, but that doesnt make him any more or any less of a newsman.
Mash |
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03.26.06 - 7:25 pm | #
[deleted] Sorry, this line of conversation is over.
adj : discriminatory on the basis of sex. n : a man with a chauvinistic belief in the inferiority of women.
Neither am I discrimanating on the basis of her sex or gender, nor am I of the belief that Lara is inferior...In fact she's SUPERIOR and superb.
James |
03.26.06 - 7:27 pm | #
Ignore Stupid People and Stupid Anonymous! He or she is just pushing all of your buttons for amusement.
Now in regards to Lara Logan. I wish she were Oh-oh-oh-ohh sweet child of mi----ne / ohhhhh sweet love of mine.
Axel Rose |
03.26.06 - 7:31 pm | #
Because, Anonymous, they don't even fit the DEFINITION of SEXIST. In addition to that, a stress relieving favor could be a back rub or foot rub. Lord knows Lara deserves it.
James |
03.26.06 - 7:31 pm | #
cough,cough,thank you good night!
Axel Rose |
03.26.06 - 7:32 pm | #
I know women who drool over Anderson Cooper all the time, but that doesnt make him any more or any less of a newsman.
Mash | Homepage | 03.26.06 - 7:25 pm | #
You appeared earlier to understand the difference. You do, don't you?
I do accept the fact that she's a beautiful and intelligent woman. What I don't accept is these so-called Liberals making such a fuss over it and making disrespectful comments like those I've quoted above.
You don't like that? Sorry, man.
Anonymous |
03.26.06 - 7:35 pm | #
James | 03.26.06 - 7:31 pm | #
You're a gentleman, I see. I again stand corrected.
"Now, please explain to me why those comments I quoted above are not sexist?"
Merely commenting on a woman's attractiveness does not constitute sexism. It's perfectly natural for a man to see an attractive woman in the media and comment on her attractiveness. The converse holds true for women who comment on attractive men. It's human nature; not sexism.
Now, for the 5th time, can you explain to me why it's sexist?
Tom |
03.26.06 - 7:37 pm | #
Axel Rose | 03.26.06 - 7:31 pm | #
Calling you on your sexism is being "stupid"? Okay. Whatever you say, genius. Got any more brilliant quotes from Axel Rose for us?
Anonymous |
03.26.06 - 7:38 pm | #
Anonymous, I must say, you are silly.
Everyone's a sexist, blah, blah, blah.
Let me explain.
On one hand, we have you, waving your sword around, calling everyone a creep and telling them to STFU.
On the other hand, we have Lara, who's putting her life on the line to bring the Truth to the American People, incredibly articulate and unbelievably beautiful.
Any questions?
James |
03.26.06 - 7:41 pm | #
Anonymous is right...while this reporter fights for a just media, all you schoolboys want to do is jack off.
Might I suggest that we direct some firepower at Laura Ingraham and the Orwellian crowd for a moment
Leave Lara alone - just accept that she is beautiful and smart. I know women who drool over Anderson Cooper all the time, but that doesnt make him any more or any less of a newsman.
Mash |
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03.26.06 - 7:44 pm | #
Well I just want to say that Lara Logan is obviously smart and well spoken, but if somebody didn't mention how freaking gorgeous she is, the very rocks would cry out and sing praises to such truth. The fact that she can speak with eloquence and conviction just makes her beauty more staggering.
One more thing; I think it's great that someone who could be a movie star or model chose to use her gifts to help keep us better informed on the issues that concern us. That's hot too. Yeah, there are idiots who will choose to focus on one and not the other, but who cares? We'll always have those kind of people around, and we'd all do well to get some thicker skin.
Paddy |
03.26.06 - 7:44 pm | #
(a) I never saw her before, so I want to reserve judgment just a little bit, but from this clip, she strikes me as gorgeous, super-prepared, fired up, articulate, and honest. And she has the moral authority of having been there a lot longer than Ingraham. That whole package of looks, integrity, and competence -- if it holds up -- really floats my boat.
(b) I do think it's possible for remarks about a woman's looks to cross a line where they're demeaning or they detract from substantive discussion. But I also think this thread was going reasonably okay in this respect. There was a little horny-frat-boy stuff, but mostly serious comments.
(c) Is it possible Anonymous is a troll? Just wondering, because I could see it either way.
snoozer |
03.26.06 - 7:47 pm | #
I'm in love
johnnycanuck | 03.26.06 - 7:46 pm | #
Forget it, Johnny.
Anonymous has laid claim and will attack anyone who comes near.
James |
03.26.06 - 7:48 pm | #
Ack! this is a hornet's nest...my mom, god rest her soul, would have slapped me by now if she were here.
Can we just leave it at Lara Logan just kicked Laura Ingraham's butt, please
Mash |
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03.26.06 - 7:50 pm | #
so, you are here because...?
i could be mistaken, but i don't remember a thing of political interest that you have brought up, anonymous...and it is so obvious that you are not a "man"...
katy | 03.26.06 - 7:01 pm | #
30+minutes later...still defending "feminism"...
hu huh...
i've had enough here - unlike anonymous...
katy |
03.26.06 - 7:51 pm | #
So, you characterize those comments as "Merely commenting on a woman's attractiveness does not constitute sexism"? Fascinating.
On to your logic: It's not sexist, because it's "natural." Again, fascinating. Then whistling and cat calling on the road isn't sexist? Then propositioning a woman in the workplace is fine? Then I guess since it's natural for a man to want to have sex with a woman, date rape is okay?
I really think you must be disingenuous to be arguing that the statements above are "merely commenting on a woman's attractiveness."
The "merely commenting on a woman's attractiveness" is not, necessarily, sexist. It depends on the context, doesn't it? Here, for example, we have a professional journalist. She makes a serious report on an important subject. What kind of comments do we get from the peanut gallery of boys? Well, read them above. They're not merely commenting on her looks. They're disrespectful of her as a professional and as a woman. She is being treated as a sex object with some nod to her "intelligence," as though that somehow makes the sexist comments all better. It doesn't make them any better. She is a journalist and deserves respect as a professional, not to be treated like a Playboy pinup.
Seriously, Tom, if you don't understand this, I don't think I can help you understand it. Maybe there's someone else out there with the patience and intelligence to get through to you. Granted, I only have a graduate degree, but the facts are quite logical and apparent to me.
Anonymous |
03.26.06 - 7:52 pm | #
Watch it to the end and hear her comment, "eight days?!", regarding Ingraham's lirttle stay in Iraq. beautiful.
TJW |
03.26.06 - 7:52 pm | #
Ok, I'm with Paddy...now I'm getting back to blogging on Iraq and Afghanistan...enjoy the mud wrestling
Mash |
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03.26.06 - 7:53 pm | #
... Guys like to look at women. It's nothing personal...
Steve G | 03.26.06 - 4:29 pm |
... Like it or not, people respond more positivly to a pretty face (be it male or female)...
kelven | 03.26.06 - 4:58 pm |
Steve, don't you think looking at women in an impersonal way might be part of the problem?
Kelven, I guess that explains why most TV women are young and beautiful while most TV men (who continue to significantly outnumber women) are old and ugly.
You can be sure that Ms. Logan has long since had far more than her share of impersonal come-ons. Be your better selves and focus on her courage and her work. In this clip, she is showing more understanding and courage than we usually see in weeks of American TV. Honor her by respecting her choices and acknowledging her work, not by superficial responses to phenotypic traits.
Yet another intelligent beauti | 03.26.06 - 6:54 pm
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It is my better self that desired to point out this aspect of the debate started on this thread. The point being people will respond to physical beauty. I agree such responses tend to be superficial and biased, but any person that looks at her and doesn't think "she's pretty" is kidding themselves. That is really my only point about that. My personal emotional response was more what you articulate - that she is a breath of fresh air in this whole smelly mess. The closest I've seen to that kind of courage in the last few weeks was Helen Thomas. I respect both of them equally. I am attracted to neither of them sexually. Please don't make assumptions in your rush to shame or blame "little boys" behavior.
Now Anonymous has accused us all of "date rape".
Simply outrageous.
What is your major malfunction?
James |
03.26.06 - 7:55 pm | #
"On to your logic: It's not sexist, because it's "natural." Again, fascinating. Then whistling and cat calling on the road isn't sexist? Then propositioning a woman in the workplace is fine? Then I guess since it's natural for a man to want to have sex with a woman, date rape is okay?"
I'm sorry, did you say something about logic? Because I couldn't find any instance of it here. Are you seriously so unhinged that you would equate a couple "She's hot" or "I'm in love" comments on a blog thread to frigging DATE RAPE? Are you kidding me?
Oh, and absolutely hysterical, that bit about your "graduate degree." That sure put me in my place.
Tom |
03.26.06 - 7:56 pm | #
Oh, almost forgot, for some perspective on where this thread ranks in the scheme of things, go here.
Mash |
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03.26.06 - 7:57 pm | #
Penis envy, Anonymous, does equate to being a man.
James |
03.26.06 - 7:57 pm | #
"My personal emotional response was more what you articulate - that she is a breath of fresh air in this whole smelly mess. The closest I've seen to that kind of courage in the last few weeks was Helen Thomas. I respect both of them equally. I am attracted to neither of them sexually."
Nicely said, kelevn.
I think they're both Ms. Logan and Ms. Thomas are beautiful for these reasons, too. And I'll stand up for either of them against the sexist trash that is being spoken on either side of the political spectrum.
Anonymous |
03.26.06 - 7:58 pm | #
James | 03.26.06 - 7:57 pm | #
Yeah, we got that the first time. It wasn't particularly witty then, either.
By the way, my wife read that and is laughing at you, James.
Anonymous |
03.26.06 - 7:59 pm | #
"By the way, my wife read that and is laughing at you,"
No, Mash.
It's not that this thread ranks there, but the fact that we are ALL here, sitting at our computers under central air and heating, rather than in the streets, demanding this corrupt administration step down...THAT ranks RIGHT there in the scheme of things. And THAT includes me and YOU.
James |
03.26.06 - 8:00 pm | #
Mash | Homepage | 03.26.06 - 7:57 pm | #
Mash, [deleted] Don't blame me for standing up for decency. I have no regrets because you disapprove.
Site Monitor: It is YOU that is hijacking this thread with your attacks on other posters. Please limit your comments to the topic and stop the personal attacks.
ok, cant seem to leave and blog about stuff...since you brought up Helen Thomas, I will confess I've got a major crush on her. If I had half the integrity she has, I'd be a man I could be proud of.
Mash |
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03.26.06 - 8:02 pm | #
There are people in the left that can be as nutty as the right. If people get upset because some people find this woman attractive it's seriously time to look at your own issues rather than trying to castrate every man who comments on her.
Steve G |
03.26.06 - 8:03 pm | #
Yes, Anonymous, we see you high atop your gilded seat. You can stop waving your arms now.
James |
03.26.06 - 8:04 pm | #
Yes, Tom, she is. And smart to boot.
Anonymous |
03.26.06 - 8:05 pm | #
last word from me on this:
you know, anon., i went back and reread the posts here and found that way back at 2ish you picked this "fight" with very little provocation...
yep, the mark of a troll...
g'night.
katy |
03.26.06 - 8:06 pm | #
Touche James. In my defense, I am kind of tapped out emotionally and intellectually for the week. I need a break and some give and take with intelligent people to rejuvenate my brain and body.
Forgive the levity, but I need it today. I've been blogging about blood all week, and I'll go blind if I see anymore.
Mash |
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03.26.06 - 8:06 pm | #
I'd say I was pretty restrained in light of the numerous sexist remarks that preceded my entry, katy. But whatever you want to believe is okay with me.
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03.26.06 - 8:08 pm | #
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James |
03.26.06 - 8:10 pm | #
"for eight days?" *smiles*
can she be given an interview with cheney and rumsfeld?
kerr ecshun |
03.26.06 - 8:11 pm | #
Steve G | 03.26.06 - 8:03 pm | #
How cliched of you, Steve G. Criticism of blatant sexism is castrating.
No one denies that people will find each other attractive. That's not the point, is it?
Anonymous |
03.26.06 - 8:11 pm | #
Ha! I didn't realize my words were that powerful, James.
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03.26.06 - 8:12 pm | #
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James |
03.26.06 - 8:13 pm | #
Commadus?
Powerful?
Only you would think so.
James |
03.26.06 - 8:14 pm | #
[deleted] What was that you said earlier about comment on a blog relating to date rape. Kind of weird when someone makes an irrational leap eh?
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Steve G |
03.26.06 - 8:16 pm | #
Anyway, have a nice night, folks. Sorry to inject a sense of decency into the [deleted] party you boys had going here. I await your next comments on the beauty of Ann Coulter, Lara Logan, etc. and who you'd like to "do" . . . NOT.
Best line of the discussion
Steve G |
03.26.06 - 8:21 pm | #
Touche James. In my defense, I am kind of tapped out emotionally and intellectually for the week. I need a break and some give and take with intelligent people to rejuvenate my brain and body.
Forgive the levity, but I need it today. I've been blogging about blood all week, and I'll go blind if I see anymore.
Mash |
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03.26.06 - 8:23 pm | #
To ratchet the discussion into a differrent direction, I wonder if Lara Logan is the basis for the heroine of the movie "The Interpreter". (starring Nicole Kidman + Sean Penn)
Jeffrey Davis |
03.26.06 - 8:30 pm | #
" ... for eight days." (eyebrows raised, smiling glance off-camera)
I've obviously underestimated the US news outlets, particularly CBS. I tend to avoid news from inside the US simply because it's far too nationalistic.
This reporter is clearly putting her young life on the line to get the word out, which is exemplary.
If the current mal-administration doesn't like what's being reported - tough. They made the mess, now let them wallow in the truth of it.
Mark Richards |
03.26.06 - 8:36 pm | #
Touche James. In my defense, I am kind of tapped out emotionally and intellectually for the week. I need a break and some give and take with intelligent people to rejuvenate my brain and body.
Forgive the levity, but I need it today. I've been blogging about blood all week, and I'll go blind if I see anymore.
Mash |
Homepage |
03.26.06 - 8:36 pm | #
This isn't the first time Logan has had to counter right-wing bullshit about reporting in Iraq.
When reporters like Jill Carroll try to do some reporting without armed escorts, the war wankers yuk it up when they get killed or kidnapped. When they only go out with armed troops and leave out certain things the government doesn't want publicized, they're accused of stabbing the troops in the back by not doing enough stories about Marines giving candy to kids. I'm glad Lara Logan called "BULLSHIT!" on this.
Heyward Jablomey |
03.26.06 - 8:49 pm | #
Draft Laura Ingraham
She obviously wants first hand proof of the good news...lets not deny her that opportunity...
right wing hater |
Homepage |
03.26.06 - 8:58 pm | #
I've never heard of Lara Logan...
Why did it take days before some of these people were outraged?
Sometimes I think these TV journalist have to check the Blogs for a popular opinion before they speak up.
jFp |
03.26.06 - 9:16 pm | #
The most telling quote what "Who says things aren't falling apart here?"
Oh god, look at these headlines streaming in...."Wave of Violence Kills at Least 69 Iraqis"
What a living nightmare.
johnnyr |
03.26.06 - 9:18 pm | #
hmm is it a democracy yet
an islamic theorcacy allies with Iran
USA USA USA
crusader bunnypants |
Homepage |
03.26.06 - 9:35 pm | #
Such truth coming from such beauty...I'm betwixt between her being an absolute knockout and her being an incredible reporter who doesn't take any shit...
Joe |
03.26.06 - 9:39 pm | #
I did like her laugh at the end when shesaid Ingraham had only been there 8 days.
jFp |
03.26.06 - 9:43 pm | #
After DAYS of Bush-Co bullshit over the reporting from Iraq, Lara Logan smacks down THE WHOLE BUSH ADMINISTRATION KOOL-AID INDUSTRY!
"Eight days!" Indeed.
Thanks, C&L. I would have missed this without your posting. Awesome!
redstate Radical |
03.26.06 - 9:45 pm | #
UsA UsA u$A
i think really we are on the edge of collapse serious I know I sound all tin foil but it just can't last peace
crusader bunnypants |
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03.26.06 - 9:47 pm | #
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Anonymous | 03.26.06 - 1:19 pm | #
Well, you pretty much miss the point. It's the smarts and the passionate articulation of her position that make her so hot.
The rest is just the feather that knocks ya over...
I'd hit that . . . TWO times.
out of the mainstream |
03.26.06 - 9:59 pm | #
Wow Lara Logan is one nice looking, sophisticated, and intelligent woman. MMMM MMMM MMMM and that accent WOW is she something to behold. Ok fantasy over. Yeah she kicked their butts.
steambomb |
03.26.06 - 10:03 pm | #
Hot Damn! Beautiful, intelligent, articulate, and cool under fire. What more could a man want?
I wanna have her babies!
Get that news out about having to hush up successes to avoid local sabotage... it's all a security issue. Rumsfeld (what an ass) had no real plan A or B for reconstruction, and it was his idea to send too few troops secure the country.
Let's send Rummy over there to report the "good news" to the folks back home!!!
Fish Head |
03.26.06 - 10:15 pm | #
not something new, seen it before. somehow, journalists were to be above reproach. never happened. they bend with the wind. 99 perecent of them only care about their jobs, not really reporting what needs to be reported, what needs to be said. after all is said and done and the bush house of cards crumbles, watch them scurry to the other side. there are no ethics. the scumbags must be made to pay for this most grievous of a non-action. they may have the writing skills, they may have the education, they may have the high paying jobs, but a ho is a ho. they've prostituted themselves and their journalistic integrity in the worst possible way. they can't possibly believe what they're writing and saying on a daily basis. thus they're sellout ho's.
ron |
03.26.06 - 10:21 pm | #
What a bunch of clowns the admin has become. In the past six months they have called members of their own base "sexist" over oppossing Meyers, racist over oppossing the ports deal and now they are blaming the media for f'ing up Iraq.
Can they piss off anyone else they need? Are they going to send young republicans out to knee-cap the electoral college voters? Burn bibles? Are they going to claim credit for 9/11 next?
bubba |
03.26.06 - 10:22 pm | #
Ron, put down the 40oz er of J.D. You sound more than a little spurned...
gnip gnop |
03.26.06 - 10:24 pm | #
First of all, yes this thread has grown too long and cluttered to read in its entirety right now, and therefore no, I have not read every last comment.
Next, of what I have read, it's apparent that the one most interested in the looks and/or perceived sex-appeal of the correspondent is the one trying the hardest to divert the discussion from what a fantastic job she's doing. Coincidence or hypocrisy? This is not meant as a verbal joust, but simply as an observation, and one that I suspect fits reality far more than any of Cheney's so-called 'reality based' comments we've seen to date. 'Anonymous' has presumably retired for the evening - if so we may not be 'gifted' with a response or attempted justification for that ironic circumstance.
Now, while on the point of sex appeal, it seems pretty obvious that anyone who takes offense at someone just for pointing out THIS correspondent's obvious appeal should be as eager to object when, for example, a female posts remarks about finding Olberman or another male personality easy to look at. (Just an example, and no offense intended to anyone who would prefer a different example!)
Last, but not least, now that all the caveats have been laid out, let me just say that I wonder if I may be the first to notice that the intrepid journalist in the middle of this whole flurry, calls to mind in more than one way a certain heroine known by the same first name. Naysayers will say their nays, but the rest of us can see through the pretense. Lara has won the hearts and minds of her audience with this amazing little performance, and whether words of faux righteous indignation or displays of overt jealousy, they don't really cover over that fact.
Cory |
03.26.06 - 10:43 pm | #
8 days! Ingram stayed one more day than it took for God to create the war-torn earth!
thepoetryman |
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03.26.06 - 10:50 pm | #
That's right, Cory. You're on to me. I'm trying to distract from her message. That's why I keep responding to the ridiculous attempts to justify blatant sexism by these fools. How cunning.
"it seems pretty obvious that anyone who takes offense at someone just for pointing out THIS correspondent's obvious appeal should be as eager to object when, for example, a female posts remarks about finding Olberman or another male personality easy to look at."
[deleted-no personal attacks]
I really wish I hadn't had to stand up for the honor of this woman and women in general, but there are simply too many odious comments and pathetic rebuttals that I couldn't allow to stand.
The statement that people were merely commenting on her good looks is a gross mischaracterization of the comments that I find objectionable.
I suppose commenting on the color of a reporter's skin is a natural and unobjectionable thing? I'm not the hypocrite here, Cory. [deleted]
What reference to skin color are you accusing me of now? Or is the reference to a physician in need of healing purely rhetorical?
Obviously 'anonymous' thinks this thread's value to be mainly about supposed harm to the journalist's 'honor' and has no concern for the message or the lives IT involves. How magnanimous, indeed!
In case you missed it, though, the women's rights thread, important as it is, is over that way, you know, together with the clips from journalists who are actually discussing THAT subject.
Thanks, by the way, for speedily confirming the suspicion that you hadn't really left the discussion for the night after all. Can anything you say be trusted?
Rant over. Expect no further off-topic dialogue since your aims are already quite obvious, and I see not only to me.
Cory |
03.26.06 - 11:17 pm | #
Lara hit them really hard here and totally debunked the idea that the media is only focusing on the negative. Don't the Republicans know not to get into an argument with people who buy ink by the barrel?
Again, the contrast with eight days Ingraham is so stark. A real journalist versus a radio chatterbox lickspittle.
This journalist earned serious respect here. Too bad so many childish "men" can't show her the respect she deserves.
Anonymous |
03.26.06 - 11:19 pm | #
hot, and smart, too!
Pete Bogs |
Homepage |
03.26.06 - 11:20 pm | #
[deleted]
This line of discussion is over. You are violating commenting policy by making personal attacks on other posters.
Ad-hominem attacks are not worthy of response, in many cases, especially when they obviously have little or no correlation to the actions or words person being so attacked. They do, however, point to the underlying weakness in the attacker's position. Ad-hominem attacks on posters in this thread generally do absolutely zero for the substance of the thread, which I've already commented on, in some detail: A virtuoso performance by a reporter with major charisma. Any further discussions ON TOPIC may be worth considering. Not interested in wasting time, though.
Cory |
03.26.06 - 11:31 pm | #
Have you not read many of the comments that say what a great job she did interviewing and getting her point across.
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Why is it okay for the women here to comment on KO? Why is it that you and your other identities are the ones who have a problem? [deleted]
As I said earlier, I have little or no interest in ad-hominem attacks on me or anyone else in this thread. I am confident the literate here can see that clearly enough. Interestingly, however, ad-hominem is a tool of choice for the republican wind machine, who clearly have NO interest, in this case, in discussing the SUBSTANCE of a good journalist's message.
Hopefully the ACTUAL topic of the thread will still be seen through all the off-topic garbage being posted here. I'm sure it will be clear with another viewing of the excellent journalistic clip at the core of this C&L entry.
Cory |
03.27.06 - 12:10 am | #
Enough of the misleading accusations of "Anonymous." Your self-righteous linkage of praising a woman' s attractiveness with sexism does a disservice to actual sexism: denigrating someone based on gender. If one of the posters were to have said, "oh, I don't know what the fuck she was talking about, but she sure is pretty and she'd make a better porn story than a reporter"--that would be sexist. No one is attempting to bring her down based on her high level of attractiveness. People are merely speaking honestly--albeit bluntly and even crudely--about their aesthetic and in many cases, yes, "libinal" responses. So, get off the high horse, the main gist of people's praise here is that Mrs. Logan has charism: beauty and truth mated together has a vivid impact. It's such a fresh change from the manipulation of beauty we see so often on Fox news where women who are attractive are shown as entertaining vessels for propaganda. Look at Lara, she's not spouting propaganda, she's speaking from the justified indignation of her heart and brain, united in an eloquent utterance: she speaks to the point and TV is a visual medium, her appearance becomes another rhetorical device that enhances the presentation, just like her accent. These attributes, while secondary to her message, help to convey her message. Neither the accent not the appearance denigrate her message; they help to communicate the message by arresting the attention for an American audience. Mrs. Logan carries her dignity through her clear adherence to high journalistic standards, no appreciative comments about her appearance are diminishing her dignity. Naked in truth, she stands proud and fierce while the Baghdad sirens sound in the background, reminding us that war has become the new state of Iraq.
Cthulhu's Truth |
03.27.06 - 12:15 am | #
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Anonymous |
03.27.06 - 12:15 am | #
Go ahead. Tell everyone how I'm misleading you.
Anonymous |
03.27.06 - 12:18 am | #
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Anonymous |
03.27.06 - 12:19 am | #
The problem is that you [deleted] made her the story by commenting on her, not on what she said. [deleted]
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Anonymous |
03.27.06 - 12:22 am | #
It will be clear to anyone who has read this far who has stayed on topic and who has resorted to the attack method of choice. (Topic being: AN EXCEPTIONALLY FINE EXAMPLE OF JOURNALISM, and NOT being feminism, the attacking or defending of sexism, or any other meme of choice.)
Cory |
03.27.06 - 12:23 am | #
Yes, I had "libidinal" thoughts, and I'm damn proud of it! No one can shake me from that. I'm a man. It's perfectly normal. I will take a firm stance on this subject: The right to libidinal thoughts about hot news reporters. There. I said it, and I'm glad.
Proud Man |
03.27.06 - 12:25 am | #
"Topic being: AN EXCEPTIONALLY FINE EXAMPLE OF JOURNALISM"
The topic to which I spoke several times. Unfortunately, however, I was required to respond to the sexism that confronted me. I do the same when I am confronted with racism, lies, and damn lies.
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Anonymous |
03.27.06 - 12:28 am | #
Anonymous why is it that you are the only woman who seems to be offended by this? And actually the word should be obsessed.
[deleted]
Face it this has nothing to do with professionalism or even sexism it has to do with you being jealous of the compliments a talented and extremely beautiful woman reporter received from a bunch of men and some woman.
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Felix The Kat |
03.27.06 - 12:41 am | #
Taz[deleted]
I'll admit, however, to being flumoxed by the lack of female support on this. There were a few, but they were rather timid.
I think the reason for the lack of the female voice is the kind of reaction that speaking out on feminism evokes from [deleted] you who resort to this kind of commentary:
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Sexist pigs have a way of shouting down criticizm. Moreover, who want's to be called names like that?
It's the right-wing success at demonizing feminism that is at work here. Fortunately, I'm immune to your pathetic, weak-minded attacks. I'll speak the truth, [deleted] Taz.
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Anonymous |
03.27.06 - 12:43 am | #
Felix The Kat | 03.27.06 - 12:41 am | #
It sure does, Felix. Lots of ugly people here. [deleted]
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Anonymous |
03.27.06 - 12:44 am | #
Lara Logan is attractive in a gorgeous sort of way. There I said it. Oh yeah, she is a very good reporter to boot.
Mark F. |
03.27.06 - 12:44 am | #
What the heck is meme? Is this a deliberate typo or what? What does it mean?
Worried |
03.27.06 - 12:44 am | #
Taz | 03.27.06 - 12:35 am | #
Taz | 03.27.06 - 12:39 am | #
Oh, gosh, a few more witty remarks from the [deleted], Taz. Ouch, it hurts.
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Anonymous |
03.27.06 - 12:45 am | #
Mark F. It's pretty well established that Lara Logan is a fetching lass. Have you not been reading, or do you, too, question your masculinity sometimes and feel the need to reasure yourself?
Anonymous |
03.27.06 - 12:47 am | #
Replace "meme" with "idea" and you're pretty much going to be okay, Worried.
Anonymous |
03.27.06 - 12:48 am | #
[deleted] Sorry, this line of discussion ends now.
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Anonymous |
03.27.06 - 12:50 am | #
Anonymous you aren't Lara Logan so you shouldn't talk for her. She just might take alot of the comments as compliments. What woman doesn't like to be called beautiful?
[deleted] Please limit your comments to the topic and not other posters.
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Felix The Kat |
03.27.06 - 12:51 am | #
Enough with the personal attacks.
Please limit your comments to the topic and not the other posters.
Site Monitor |
03.27.06 - 12:51 am | #
I'm out of here. Not sure why the 03.27.06 - 12:58 am post has the "edited" tag. There was no personal attack in there at all, and nothing was edited. Anyway, so much for feminism. Clearly a thing of the past. Sorry for being so old school.
Anonymous |
03.27.06 - 1:02 am | #
I'm a woman and a feminist, and I have no problem with people saying that Lara Logan is beautiful. She is. And she's smart and articulate on top of it. She knows her stuff, and she really smacks down the Bush apologists.
may_child |
03.27.06 - 1:11 am | #
We established an atmosphere of safety, in which responsible, reform-minded local leaders could build lasting institutions of freedom. In societies that once bred fascism and militarism, liberty found a permanent home.
DPF |
03.27.06 - 1:22 am | #
not that it matters , but kurtz has worst $7 haircut ever
Anonymous |
03.27.06 - 1:42 am | #
According to the dates on Ingraham's photos she wasn't even in country for 8 days; first day was 5th and last day 10th.
Ingraham's trip must have been planned as a precursor to the planned attack on the media., It's so cynical
Bill |
03.27.06 - 1:52 am | #
She did a fantastic job of making the case against the Administration and its minions and their "where's the good news?" line of crap.
Jim LaVelle |
03.27.06 - 2:06 am | #
notice the ambulance/fire trucks in the background...4:44
help |
03.27.06 - 2:08 am | #
Articulate, passionate, beautiful. I love Lara Logan.
Mr. Logan |
03.27.06 - 2:29 am | #
Well said, Mr. Logan!
Congratulations to C&L for getting this thread back on topic, too. The fact is that this kind of journalism deserves more attention than side issues or petty personal attacks, which is and has been my point from the beginning.
Still, sometimes simplicity is elegance, so once again, well said, Mr. Logan - I couldn't agree more!
Cory |
03.27.06 - 3:10 am | #
Is there an American who can talk this directly, and with that intensity? Also, does anybody else get the killer-fruit vibe from Laura Ingraham? Just askin'.
Kenji |
03.27.06 - 3:19 am | #
Lara Logan is right about everything she said. But that final look and the "8 days" comment would have made Murrow proud!
And while we're at it, let's all pray for Jill Caroll.
Rafe |
03.27.06 - 3:29 am | #
"For eight days."
Owned!
Tony Rio |
Homepage |
03.27.06 - 3:51 am | #
b.t.w , I'm in love with Lara Logan.
Tony Rio |
Homepage |
03.27.06 - 3:53 am | #
Not only is she hot, she is equally intelligent and articulate, also Lara if you wanna have my children drop me email.
If these media whores such as Kurtz, weren't allowed to say "people say"Some say"..."critics say" they wouldn't know what to say or ask..do they have any imagination at all, or does he think Ingram is some great source for what's going on in Iraq, the rightwing sycophant spends 8 days there and she knows it all..they HAD schools before the invasion, they had the best university system of any arab country ..BEFORE the invasion..they had Working hospitals BEFORE the invasion..where do these pentagon clowns get off, talking about rebuilding the shit they destroyed in the first fucking place.
Ingram is as desperate as bush for their fantasies in Iraq to be part of the main stream news, which is not even covering ALL the bad incidents going on, such as street crime, robberies, kidnapping of iraqis..all up over 300 percent in Iraq..it's FAR worst ..than what's being reported.
Fred |
03.27.06 - 5:06 am | #
OT but the Site editors suck. Let the trolls speak, and show the world what idiots they truly are.
poopendous |
03.27.06 - 7:04 am | #
Since we know the real terrorists reside in Washington DC, their message is delivered on Fox News. They need not worry about CNN.
The Witless Administration sets new records every week when it comes to Chutzpah.
Vinnie Vegas |
03.27.06 - 7:08 am | #
So Laura Ingraham was in Iraq for 8 days? Did she go out in search of happy stories or did she stay on that famous balcony in the green zone for the whole time?
Sigrid |
03.27.06 - 7:09 am | #
wELL THE REPORT WAS ON cNN SO NO ONE SAW IT
woodco100 |
03.27.06 - 7:19 am | #
If Laura Ingraham or Howie Kurtz or FOX news want the good stories in Iraq to get out all they need do is go there and cover them. Spend as much time there as Lara Logan has spent in both Iraq and Afghanistan. I'd love to see how Laura Ingraham would look after 3 years in Iraq and Afghanistan. She would need a burka to keep from breaking the camera.
Don |
03.27.06 - 7:27 am | #
So like the point of "Good Night and Good Luck!"
As Edward R. Murrow said, "We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty. When the loyal opposition dies, I think the soul of America dies with it."
Tom H |
03.27.06 - 7:33 am | #
Is this part of the good news? It comes from Day 4 of Laura Ingraham's 6 day Iraq report:
"The orphanage was amazing. The soldiers we were with from the USACE brought toys (as they do regularly) to the kids- most were about six or younger. The orphanage held about 25 kids total- beautiful, mostly boys. They sat in their small little chairs, lining the walls for us when we walked in. They pulled the candy out of Edd Hendee's pockets- bubble gum is their favorite so far. Many of the children did have extended family but they are unable to care for them. The staff told me that foreign adoption is possible- a number of us wanted to take a few of these kids with us. I pretended one of the stuffed animals was attacking me and I got one row of boys to laugh. They even taught me a few words in Arabic.
"Later on we headed to the public children's hospital, where we saw just how badly the average Iraqi fared under 40 years of dictatorial rule. Mothers and fathers streamed through dirty halls and stairways waiting to be looked at by one of the hospitals' doctors. They stared at us- again, we were in full body armor, which I hated- and I did my best to say hello in Arabic and smile. But the sense of desperation and weariness of these people was heartbreaking. Twenty infants were lined up in a ward, sometimes two to a bed- all without sheets. At least a quarter looked like they wouldn't make it. The mothers wanted to speak with us but many had tears in their eyes. After seeing one particularly feverish child who would not stop coughing or crying, I just lost it. Had to leave the room. The "neo-natal" room was just as bad- two babies in each incubator, crying mothers. It was just heartbreaking. The doctors do what they can with their limited resources. The good news: they will soon have a new wing neo-natal and pediatric wing thanks to the generosity of the American people and hard work of the USACE and its contractors. The two pediatricians we spoke with were dedicated to helping their people. Many physicians have fled Iraq for security and better pay in other countries. But these men are here for the long haul."
In my earlier post, I suggested that she spent her time on a balcony in the Green Zone. Actually, she seems to have spent most of her time, except for this trip to the orphanage and hospital, jollying it up with the troops.
Two things about the Laura Ingram section.. 1) Ms Logan's face when she heard her name.. and the smirk when she repeated "For eight days" after Kurtz mentioned that Laura was there for 8 days
biobit |
03.27.06 - 7:50 am | #
Gawd, she's pissed when she's hot. Uh... something like that.
The best part for me was the smirk, "For eight days" HA!
Howie is a putz.
No one in particular |
03.27.06 - 8:12 am | #
It wasn't 8 days. It was 6 days. There were 2 days of travel from the US.
Why in the world are you guys talking about who is hot or not? Your brains must be smaller than Laura Ingraham's brain. If she were a spokes-model sitting in a posh studio, then she would possibly be fair game. But she is in Iraq and at risk of having her hot body blown to bits. Get a life.
another hot babe |
03.27.06 - 8:21 am | #
Who is to say things are NOT falling apart in Iraq?
Wow. Kurtz looked fittingly asinine when Lara Logan was done with him. He had the look of someone who had just had his ass handed to him, and didn't know what to do with it.
midge |
03.27.06 - 9:03 am | #
Wow she is beautiful and I love the accent. Now thats a girl I would love to have as a girlfriend...but I wish she wasn't there. Not safe.
Anyways she REALLY spoke some sense that more people should get to hear (And see
Well Well Well |
03.27.06 - 9:12 am | #
I never heard the "it will get attacked" angle before.
LOL, so there's good news, but the reason you don't hear it is the bad news!
Poor FOX motherfuckers, must be spinning at the irony.
PS: Larrra Loooooogan. . . . hominahominahominahomina POW right in the kisser
ElectricBassPlayer |
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03.27.06 - 9:13 am | #
notice how all of the "journalist" and foreign leaders we used to know have died, retired or been replaced within the last 1.5yrs.
who are these trolls?
pop3 |
03.27.06 - 9:21 am | #
notice how all of the "journalist" and foreign leaders we used to know have died, retired or been replaced within the last 1.5yrs.
who are these trolls?
pop3 |
03.27.06 - 9:35 am | #
"8 days" ...very nice reaction...
CNN adding the vibratto in her voice to convey this as an emotional outburst. Fuckers!
fricknfrack |
03.27.06 - 9:47 am | #
Oh lord - calm my restless heart.
The Liberal Avenger |
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03.27.06 - 9:54 am | #
Lara Logan smacked down the "negative Iraq War Coverage" -HAHAHAHAHAHA - LOL - only you believe it, you ignorant left-kool aid drinker-loons
C |
03.27.06 - 9:56 am | #
I never knew what the phrase "She's beautiful when she's angry" meants until now.
I love the dismissive laugh, toss of the head and "eight days" kick in the testicles at the end of the segment.
Kurtz should go home and check to see if his balls are still attached... whoops. He never had any!
orwell's doormat |
03.27.06 - 10:02 am | #
PS.- this liberal-loon-bitch didn't even knew that Laura Ingraham was in iraQ then when CNN let her know she answer "8 days", yes moron 8 days from the battle, oaid by Laura Ingraham's own money - NOT - like you been paid by CBS - liberal moron
C |
03.27.06 - 10:03 am | #
I am quite amazed by the violent reaction and name calling that resulted from my pointing out the blatant sexism of so-called Liberals (wisedup, James, Taz, Tom, etc.) on the comments pertaining to the report by Lara Logan, below. Some were more vile than others (James, Taz), but all are clearly clueless about the issue. This is something they share with the likes of Bill O'Reilly.
I can understand why some women would remain mute in the face of such hostility. I have been accused of all sorts of things, like being a "cold fish", having a problem with sex, not liking sex, being a Puritan, ugly, unpopular, etc. Of course, they all assumed I'm a woman. All of these statements are sexist and laughably wrong. The only thing they didn't say was that I'm a Feminazi, but that would be too revealing about their allies.
I was very disappointed with the post by Strawberrybitch. She suggested that somehow I was threatened by the men's posts, by proclaiming how she wasn't threatened. I thought she was smarter and stronger than that.
Most disappointing, however, is the lack of response from the strongest women that post here. You know who you are. You also know that I'm right. The comments of the men that I quoted were offensive and inappropriate. Why the silence. Maybe you were afraid you would be tagged with the hypocrite label. Oh, yes, I was called a hypocrite too. The theory was that I didn't object to women going gaga over, say, Keith Olberman. While there is a distinct social/economic difference between a man commenting on the looks of a woman and on his desire to have sex with her and a woman doing the same thing -- a difference plain to anyone with the slightest understanding of gender relations -- a woman who makes such comments would clearly be tagged as a hypocrite for objecting when a man does so. I suppose that the strong women are guilty of this and hence must remain mute on the subject.
It is unfortunate, but sexism lives and feminism is dead, judging from the responses and lack thereof. I guess I'm just an old school Liberal who thinks people should be treated with respect. I believe, for example, that people should be judged by the content of their hearts, and not by the color of their skin. They shouldn't be judged by their sexual orientation. I guess I'm just an old feminist who thinks that a woman's looks aren't important to who she is or what she does, and that she shouldn't be judged by her looks or be made a sexual object. The suggestion that the men posting the comments that I quoted were merely noticing Ms. Logan's beauty is disingenuous. They were seeing her as a sex object, not as the serious reporter that she is. They were not treating her with the respect that she deserves.
I don't really know where the need comes from for men to act that way. Perhaps those commenting are teens who practice sex alone more than have it with a real woman. Perhaps others are frustrated and in sexless marriages. Maybe some question their sexuality and must proclaim it aloud occasionally in order to reassure themselves. Maybe some just don't respect women.
I love women. I love sex. I love people. There is a time and a place for sexuality. Don't accuse me of not appreciating and enjoying women and sex. But the comments of men that I quoted are not in the same category. Comments of a sexual nature directed toward a professional woman doing her job are not sexual or sexy. They are sexist.
Men, have more respect for women.
Women, have more respect for yourselves.
Men and women, don't let sexism pass without pointing it out.
Old School |
03.27.06 - 10:19 am | #
That's a cross post against sexism. The original is in the open thread above.
Old School |
03.27.06 - 10:20 am | #
C, please, she's been there three years and has actually been in combat situations. Also, just curious, do you work for free? I think she's a reporter and gets paid to report. If that's the best you guys have-she gets paid to do her job-you are much more desperate than I ever though. But hey, don't stop believin'.
Steve G |
03.27.06 - 10:25 am | #
The GOP attacking the media is no surprise. That's all they have left because they can't defend the war. And when Republicans can't defend a policy their instinct is always to go for the jugular of the messenger. The game is called "change the subject" and Karl Rove is an expert at it. Obviously, while debating the "sins" of the messenger we're not debating the flawed policy. Unfortunately for America, it usually works thanks to GOP bootlickers like Kurtz.
Kudos to Lara for staying on point on this one.
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Fed Up and Ready to Fight |
03.27.06 - 10:26 am | #
Kurtz or Logan? hmm. All facts aside she is way too hot to disagree with. I'd believe her if she told me the sun was blue and Saddam was a transvestite. She should run for President. I and many other hypnotized men would follow her lead anywhere. If President Logan ordered a pre-emptive attack on the moon I'd be looking for my space suit.
Doobie Bergstum |
03.27.06 - 10:29 am | #
"Later on we headed to the public children's hospital, where we saw just how badly the average Iraqi fared under 40 years of dictatorial rule."
Laura Ingraham
What a bullshit artist. Yes we know Saddam was a dick. There are a hundred dicks running countries. But, I think he's been out of power for three years. This woman wasn't in combat, she was there on a bullshit propaganda tour for 6 days.
Steve G |
03.27.06 - 10:34 am | #
The site policy is a bit ridiculous. You really expect the thousands of people who visit the site to never get angry and write anything about other posters? You're going to need a full-time deleter. This is heated stuff. Abuse or trolling is one thing but never referring to another poster by name?
Steve G |
03.27.06 - 10:42 am | #
Hey Amato,
You said, "Instantly, the right wing pundits picked up the theme," as if this was something new in response to President Bush's news conference statements.
Apparently, you haven't been paying attention to "right wing pundits," who have been making this charge against the media since shortly before the invasion of Afghanistan. This is a case of selective memory if I ever saw one.
Way to go.
The Annoyed Man |
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03.27.06 - 11:00 am | #
Actually liberals will attack the media too. I consider Clinton to be a centrist, but when the media ran with stories about Monica, and refugees from Bosnia, I recall him faulting the media. But I would take Clinton over Bush anyday. If I may be permitted to use an animal metaphor, Clinton was the strutting rooster of the farm, lord of his domain, and Bush the weasel.
ysbaddaden |
03.27.06 - 11:16 am | #
You could say Clinton was the cock of the walk, but that would leave us wide open for double-entendres.
ysbaddaden |
03.27.06 - 11:28 am | #
I see Mr. Kurtz addresses the subject in his piece this morning, but conveniently leaves out mentioning Lara Logan. I think she really put him and Laura Ignoraham in their respective places. Good for her!
Vaughn Amerling |
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03.27.06 - 11:35 am | #
Upwind of here there's a reference to Clinton attacking the media ... whoa! Get in your Wayback Machine and dial in any time between Feb 1992 and Jan 2001. When you emerge, go read an American newspaper.
Jeffrey Davis |
03.27.06 - 11:36 am | #
Fantastic!
May I have some more please?!
ChildofFire |
03.27.06 - 11:58 am | #
(written by a straight female)
ParadiseDiva |
03.27.06 - 12:30 pm | #
Another phenomenal South African from KwaZulu Natal. She is cut from some great journalistic cloth, and is fearless to boot. She will not be silenced, she will not be swayed. She cared enough about the injustices of apartheid to speak up as a white liberal in South Africa. We know about the police state, we know about censorship, we know about detention without trial. We see you, Bush, we do not fear you, and we will not be silenced.
I used my above cited examples, because I could recall a definite time he was attacked, not some general accusation.
It might prove interesting if the GOP try to excuse Bush's, "attack the messanger" approach as being no different from Clinton. That would in effect be conservatives finally agreeing that the media is not so "liberal" afterall.
ysbaddaden |
03.27.06 - 12:43 pm | #
I think Lara Logan's comment and expression at the end about Ingram's spending 8 days in Iraq was priceless -- That's all you needed to see.
I watched it several times -- the incredulous remark "eight days,” the eyes briefly glancing off camera to the left, then a smirking smile. It was too good. Watching the expression on Howard Kurtz’s face shows that even he felt stupid saying it.
yehuda cohn |
03.27.06 - 12:58 pm | #
The press has been stuck to Bush's ass for so long that George thought there was no end to the abuse they wouldn't take. Wrong again, a few are standing up to Bush, on their knee's but still fighting back. We can take heart in that. Maybe.
Earl |
03.27.06 - 1:29 pm | #
dam. she is so fucking hot.
Anonymous |
03.27.06 - 1:33 pm | #
POW!
You go, girl! The Bush strategy of attacking the media has spectacularly backfired.
Talk about biting the hand that feeds you! The media served as this criminal administration's loyal servant for nearly six years.
How wonderful to see them now biting Bush in the ass.
avenging angel |
03.27.06 - 1:42 pm | #
She is my new hero. Wow.
The Witch |
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03.27.06 - 1:51 pm | #
Wow! Isn't CBS looking for an anchor?
shargash |
03.27.06 - 2:22 pm | #
And the Republicans think Ann Coulter is good looking?
ysbaddaden |
03.27.06 - 3:01 pm | #
could it have been any plainer that that asshole beltway toady kurtz didn't seem to like it, hemming and hawing when logan set him straight on his bullshit right-wing talking points? He even used the unattached "critics say" without IDing who those critics generally come from. and logan's scoffing at asshole kurtz's defense of ingraham was priceless. she really jumped up in esteem in my book for standing up as she did.
TruthAndConsequences |
03.27.06 - 3:09 pm | #
It's as plain as the sun in the sky. Coalition forces are no longer liberators. They are troops of occupation and policeman in the middle of a civil war. It's time to bring our soldiers home.
Jerry |
03.27.06 - 3:39 pm | #
"Wow! Isn't CBS looking for an anchor?"
-If they are, i'd love to her on my screen every night. man, she's got such a nice package. God, i can't stop drooling while looking at her. And i actually agree with her and she sounds intelligent.
Anonymous |
03.27.06 - 4:01 pm | #
I recently interviewed an Iraq vet who said a big reason you don't see much in the way of "reconstruction stories" is that generally, when something is being rebuilt -- schools, hospitals, infrastructure of various kinds -- it's because our military destroyed it in the first place.
Perhaps the Pentagon realizes that sorta ruins the "feel-good" nature of their propaganda.
james minton |
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03.27.06 - 4:38 pm | #
It would also help, James, if they were continuing to do reconstruction.
However, they announced that they do not have any further reconstruction plans.
That is one amazing journalist and one amazing woman. I am in love on every possible level. Take me now, Lord.
Scott in Seattle |
03.27.06 - 5:05 pm | #
If you want to really mess with your own head, flicker back and forth real fast between the pictures of Lara Logan and Kathryn Harris.
ysbaddaden |
03.27.06 - 5:13 pm | #
I'm pretty sure Lara Logan is the love child of Lara Croft and Wolverine from the X-Men (aka Logan). Somebody needs to update nndb.com and imdb.com.
snoozer |
03.27.06 - 5:45 pm | #
god that smirk and the way she moved her eyes were so sexy - she really turned me on when she did that. God and she's intelligent too. Wow.
Anonymous |
03.27.06 - 5:50 pm | #
How come when I go to the Archives link and search for "Lara Logan" I get no results?
snoozer |
03.27.06 - 5:53 pm | #
Wow--she's so articulate and what passion. I hope she continues to tell it like it is!
nate |
03.27.06 - 6:29 pm | #
Wow.
Howard Kurtz should know not to bring up how long Laura Ingram was in Iraq and compare it to Lara Logan's experiences. I'm sure Lara has seen a helluva lot more than Ingram and many other MSM journalists will see.
Unbelievable.
I can only imagine Logan being offended by Kurtz and Ingram's comments. I would be too.
Christian Avard |
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03.27.06 - 6:48 pm | #
Its amazing that the media almost...almost cut off Lara's response..."8 days" refering to Ingram who criticized journalist who has been there reporting some for nearly 180 plus days in IRAQ while Ingram visit for 8 days make it a fair assessment of the journalist job of reporting. Ingram is outrageous and unfair.
Anonymous |
03.27.06 - 7:49 pm | #
Good for her!
Way to go, Lara! Don't take any crap from these wingnuts. You've got street cred. They've got bupkis.
Coop |
03.27.06 - 8:27 pm | #
I love when Lara rolled her eyes at Ingram being in Iraq for 8 days.
I always thought Lara was ho-hum. Now I LOVE her....
Rico |
03.27.06 - 9:10 pm | #
Wow. The truth , so plainly told.
She pretty much admitted she was trying to find the good stories, and ignore the stories of abuse by American Soldiers.
But when she went to ask to see the good stories, they told her they cant go there, because the Iraqi beneficiaries of the good story would get killed.
Yes, imagine Bush and Cheney touring Iraq.
They cant do it, its too dangerous even with the entire US Military to protect them. Imagine that.
And then they have the balls to say the Press over there is not telling the truth.
I love the final line by Lara, "EIGHT DAYS!" Tells it all. You go, girl!
gly |
03.28.06 - 12:24 am | #
HE IS HOT> GET HER OUT OF IRAQ
Anonymous |
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03.28.06 - 1:14 am | #
"Logan smacked down kurtz hope she gives me a spanking too"
Anonymous | 03.27.06 - 7:34 pm | #
Ditto.
Just call me ditto head.
ysbaddaden |
03.28.06 - 10:25 am | #
And in thre meantime, the best observers - the troops on the group whose asses are at risk - remain securely muzzled and silenced. If they tell it like it is, they get in deep shit with the brasshats. and, all the news they get is from junta-favored sources.
Paul |
03.28.06 - 11:33 am | #
"...Lara Logan is destined to get the hook."
No doubt we'll never see her on-air again. She will pay the price for straying off the reservation.
zak822 |
03.28.06 - 11:56 am | #
She's articulate and to the point
Point stop.
My head is not screwed on |
03.28.06 - 12:22 pm | #
How refreshing to see and hear someone just open up and tell it as she sees it -- without all of the polical correctness and over-attribution. Lara Logan simply stated what she has seen and heard with her own eyes and ears.
But there's more going on here than just blaming the media for negative reporting. There are several trends occuring at once that are resulting in a trasnformation in news -- in the way it's gathered, disseminated and discussed. As with all change, the changes in news are a source of consternation for many politicians.
The first trend is "the wisdom of the crowd." (James Surowiecki's book explains this phenomenon more, for those who are interested.) The media (at least the credible reporters) are reflecting this wisdom. America has finally realized it was duped by dub-ya. The evidence is mounting and is indisputable. The crowd has wised up. And reporters have a responsibility to reflect the changing attitudes of Americans.
The second trend is citizen journalists taking on the traiditonal role of mainstream media: watchdog on government. With the presence of blogs and alternative media sources it's getting more and more difficult for political machines to fully control what is and isn't disseminated to the public. In a democracy, that's a good thing. Sure, many of these blogs and alternative media sources may not always have their facts straight, but they open the door to productive dialogue. This is something the Bush administration can't handle.
Another tend has to do with a refreshing authenticity of reporters. Fourteen years ago when I was a news anchor, you NEVER allowed your opinions to enter into the mix. To do so meant you were pulled from the air, no questions asked. Now, reporters are encouraged to be more authentic and less clone-like. Example: Anderson Cooper has risen to fame with his "reporter as evangelist" style, highlighted in his "wear-your-heart-on-your-sleeve" reporting during Katrina. Why do I think allowing reporters to bring their own personality and observations into the news isn't all bad? Because humans are emotional creatures. NEWS is emotional! The facts of the day should strike a chord in us and mobilze us to take some sort of action in our democracy. What if Anderson Cooper had delivered the facts of Katrina in a drone-like typical news-person manner? Yes, we all still would have been horrified by the devastation. But seeing his angry outbursts at the lack of emergency response made us sit up and take notice of what was going on behind the scenes. And it mobilized many to humanitarian action.
That's why I think Lara Logan's comments are productive. Her anger and emotion bring a different perspective to the story--more so than if she had just matter-of-factly stated her points. It's about time someone showed some passion!
What about the media being blamed for negative coverage? Yes, some networks may lean more negative than others. But then again, we have certain other networks that lean conservative and favor the administration. What is upsetting to the Bush administration now is that even conservative news networks are starting to lash out.
Gee...maybe there's a reason for all of the negative coverage.
Vicki Kunkel |
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03.28.06 - 12:38 pm | #
"Later on we headed to the public children's hospital, where we saw just how badly the average Iraqi fared under 40 years of dictatorial rule."
What bullshit! Iraqi medical care was once regarded as some of the best in the region - before we bombed the crap out of the country. I'm sure if Ingraham had thought to ask why those children were so sick she'd have been told that most of them are suffering from water-borne illnesses. Connecting the dots for the wingers out there, bombing infrastructure = loss of water purification plants = lots of dead children.
Lara Logan has restored my faith in some members of the MSM. Now, if only the math-challenged Howie (it was 6 days) would get off his squishy ass and join her for the next 180 days, he might be able to put the "good news" into better perspective. He could start by doing a story on how the opening of a new water plant means that xxx children won't have to die for lack of clean water.
Jen |
03.28.06 - 3:35 pm | #
Jessica Lynch always claimed she got good care from an Iraqi hospital, despite their shortages. When they wanted to amputate one of her legs, and realized she was against the idea, they managed to save it. An Iraqi nurse sang lullabyes to her. The doctors or their staff tried to deliver her to US forces at a check point only to be driven off by gun fire from our forces. So unless Jessica is suffering from Stockholm syndrome, I find her version of events more believable than Ingraham.
ysbaddaden |
03.28.06 - 4:17 pm | #
I have one comment, ok two. First, Ingrham had mentioned that she got to sit in the cockpit of a chopper, but Kerry wasn't allowed. Sounds fishy. Second, I am always repelled when rich white folk, like me, take pictures with poor dark children, unlike me. I was in Peru recently and got into an argument with a co-traveler that was constantly posing with the poor kids. Jeesus, Mary and Joseph, they aren't props for your slide show.
Ok one more. I don't think I saw one picture without a large tank or many soldiers. If it is so safe, go alone.
juzbcuz |
03.28.06 - 5:55 pm | #
How do we get her on the TV and Web more often? WOW!
PDYOUNT |
03.28.06 - 9:18 pm | #
Damn she is the Babe of Baghdad. I loved the money shot at the end when she she just smirked at Laura Ingraham's 8 days.
The Fool |
03.29.06 - 3:42 pm | #
I noted an australian accent. I believe this is the reason Lara is so outspoken and less afraid. Her American counterparts are wimps. They live in fear that they won't move up the coroporate ladder if they speak the truth.
It only adds to our shame.
But good on ya, Lara. Keep it coming.
better dead than redstate |
03.29.06 - 6:07 pm | #
I noted an australian accent.
Actually she's South African.
Martin |
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03.29.06 - 10:33 pm | #
She was great! Nice smackdown she gave to Ingraham too.
nonbeliever |
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04.01.06 - 7:26 pm | #
I love how that BOOB, Howie Kurtz tried to cut off Lara with his statement, "Laura Ingraham was in Iraq... blah blah blah..." and Lara wasn't having any of it, and jumped in with, "FOR EIGHT DAYS!... FOR EIGHT DAYS!..." I want to have Lara Logan's baby. She is almost enough to make this really gay sailor (veteran) STRAIGHT!
cowboyNEOK |
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05.29.06 - 4:26 pm | #
I'm in love!!!!
Bob, The Original |
05.30.06 - 6:02 pm | #
Here are some good stories out of Iraq.
George Bush flies to Baghdad fakes story about plane being tracked by enemies and eats fake turkey with the boys in the green zone.
Money for Iraqi infrastructure development goes toward building the biggest embassy in the world complete with shopping, gyms, movie theaters, swimming pool,and luxury accomadations. We all know that an important bustling trading partner like Iraq needs an embassy like this. Next year Iraq will be admitted to the G8 and oil minister Chalabi will represent Iraq at the next Bilderberger meeting in Canada.
Money for Iraqi infrastructure diverted to build huge permanent U.S. military base and airfield in Iraq. It should be fully constructed by the end of president Bushes phased withdrawal of U.S. troops from the country.
Secular state of Saddam Hussein replaced with Islamic fundamentalist government implementing Sharia laws taking away all of the rights of women. This should strike the fancy of dominionists and theocrats in America.
Iraqi security forces devolve into sectarian death squads who torture people to death including burning and drilliing holes in their victims thus making Iraq safer for all occupation forces.
New government of Iraq endorses Irans right to develop enriched uranium. It is good to see this kind of Arab unity.
A school was built somewhere. Where? Nobody will tell. It will be blown up if they do. Rumor has it it is in Maclean VA.
The revenues from Iraqi oil that was going to pay for the war was overestimated in fact all of the oil under Iraq couldn't pay for what has already spent on the war. So now all oil revenue will go to the bank accounts of Bush and Cheneys friends.
U.S. Marines have begun (in military jargon) a new combat modality. If one of their soldiers gets killed they will cold bloodedly execute lots of women an children. Brass will cover it up as long as possible and then bow to pressure and court martial and execute marines.
American conscience can rest assured that the military command in Iraq will make sure no more pictures of torture victims at Abu Graib will be made public. But, if they are, the ones responsible for those photos will be severely punished.
Everybody now sing: I'm proud to be an American/ At least I know I'm free.
yeranalyst |
05.30.06 - 11:42 pm | #
The no spin zone if it really was the no spin zone would look like this-Lara Logan is a very smart articulate woman. What she is talking about is exactly what w was warned about, before the war, they thought they would walk in and walk out of. He and his band of advisors took this counsel from wise men and essentially flushed it down the toilet. They are reaping the results of that attitude as we speak. It is a total disaster from all points of view. The brunt of their actions is bourne by the people of Iraq, and our soldiers for no valid reason, or cause, other than.....Lies,lies and more lies.
Ms. Logan-thank you for being a stand up woman, more of you would be welcome.
Fues Fission |
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05.31.06 - 12:24 am | #
I loved the money shot at the end when she she just smirked at Laura Ingraham's 8 days.
The Fool | 03.29.06 - 3:42 pm
I am with you
Fues Fission |
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05.31.06 - 12:28 am | #
{drool}
she kicked meme so hard
Whatever she says is true.
Bravo, Lara Logan, what you say is absolutely correct. You can't report any good stories in Iraq because it's just too dangerous.
I've been saying it for a long time now: The press will finally do the right thing when it becomes personal for them.
Looking at her...hmmmm....what was she saying, I got distracted. Oh yes, the 'good' news from Iraq. Calling all trolls, please post the good news from Iraq...we'll all just wait.
"I'm mad as hell, and i'm not gonna take this anymore!!!"
We know the major stations are following the Bush orders. Bush would like Americans to think everything is great and no problems. With the lost of so many young soldiers he doesn't want us to know. Lets face it the grapevine is the real news. Our troops give up the real deal and its not good. So the media can continue to cover what ever Bush wants but Americans have the internet and world wide news coverage so whats the fuss about.
Loum,
Laura Ingraham must be ready to spit bullets!
SHE sounds like she has a cool head on her shoulders, she will not last long BECAUSE SHE IS NOT A LAP-DOG SUCK-UP TO BUSH AND THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. Howe Kuntz is one of the BIGGEST SUCK-UP LAP-DOGS on CNN. If the Republican Party did not feed him talking points he would not have a thaught in his simple head HE would be Considered A "DUMB BLOND" NO OFFENCE TO BLONDS, JUST A FACT. H.D. COLE
I love Lara Logan!
She's brilliant! The best part is the end--8 days! That's great!
If only there were more willing to speak out as she did. She makes us proud. Great young woman!
Howard Kurtz is such a tool. Say, is *HE* in Iraq??
I thought it would end with Kurtz's little snide comment about Laura Ingraham taking a trip to Iraq, but Lara Logan got in the best quote...."8 Days? 
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I trust you all know that Mrs. Howie is a major RNC operative.
I've always thought the media should air the names of US Troops killed with a graphic that says VIDEO CENSORED BY US GOVERNMENT FORCES!
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The final words "for 8 days" said with a smile says it all.
CBS has a rising star....tuff and hot
Good for her. She's pretty friggin' hot, to boot.
Anonymous:
Lara's smile at the end of the segment.
i'm still waiting for the "several DVDs full of wonderful footage of reconstruction, of medical things going on" taken by the husband (whose "job while serving was as a broadcast journalist") of a woman at a recent "townhall" meeting ... you'd think fox and others would be all over that footage ...
Photo galleries of Laura Ingraham's "8 day" vacation
Wow, this gal is very passionate about what she beleives in, and I love that accent. 
That was the most fun I've had living through this gawdawful political mess we're in since Bush took over our country. 
Now, can we have Lara please give our Democratic leaders a lesson in how to show some righteously indignant spine?
All REpublicans have the big MT heads they realy believe threir own bullshit As to show how Repub stupidity realy is they thought that they could fight a popular war they could not believe that all war is hell
She's beautiful, well spoken, intelligent and has an English accent. I've only ever seen her reporting segements and have never seen her get the chance to speak her own mind - at least to my recollection, but now I think I'm in love. 
This is Mr. Rove's modus operande. There is no policy in this whitehouse, there is only a television show. 
Ms. Logan did an excellent job in reporting the truth. This has been my contention all along. As soon as one area is secured another area flairs up.
LOL 
mmmmmmmmmmm...
Oh my, I want a news sandwich of Lara Logan and Melissa Theuriau.
Wasnt that Laura always dressed in " Robo Cop" body armour all the time. Tell her to try a halter top and short shorts while doing a story on the advancement of womens rights in post Saddam Iraq.
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Couple of thoughts. 
That was a smackdown fer yer arse! Howie Putz is a complete and utter idiot. BTW, I don't think that's an English accent, I would guess it's Aussie. Sounds a bit like Michael Ware... And I'll join the choir in saying, not only is she intelligent and scrappy, but she's friggin' HOT!
"For eight days." Zing!
THATS how the dems need to frame this!!!
That was a killer interview. Howie was back on his hells, and I thought Bill Bennet would pop.
At last. A journalist worthy of my marriage proposal!
good god get off your high horse already.
Boo-yah!
Logan's been there for more than eight days and doesn't find the need to cut and color her hair to try and look like one of the boys. Laura Ingraham is the worst example of a woman.
Astronomers recently discovered that Laura Ingraham has been reporting from a hotel balcony on moon orbiting a planet orbiting Rigil Rigil Kentaurus.
Whoa! I think I'm in love!
"For EIGHT days."
Yeah damnit, and no more, "I want to have Keith Olbermann's baby" out of the womenfolk et al.
BRAVO!
I want to have Keith Olberman's baby.
for 8 days? (chuckle)... flawless
Here is the first ten bucks to send Laura Ingraham back to Iraq. Let a camera follow her 24/7 so we can get the real picture...Shortly therafter I'm sure Regis will be doing his show there too...
Lara Logan
The right-wing robo-pundits getting smacked down by a reporter who is intelligent and sincere, and who happens also to be beautiful: I don't call that sexist, I call it a trifecta.
Lara is the bomb
I hope Logan doesn't issue an apology later on. She was right on.
I've never heard the words "8 days" spoken with soooo much venom.
Slam dunk, set and match, touchdown, homerun, score, goal, check and mate, atari, and gin.
Laura Logan was the most impressive individual I have seen on TV in a long time. She was more concise and informative in that short clip than a years worth of listening to Chris Matthews blather on.
What a great clip, you go girl, don't let the partisan cowards and hacks that call themselves journalists rule this debate. Speak truth to power. We're counting on you.
Lara Logan certainly presented one of the most articulate and intelligent and insightful discussions of Iraq, that has been heard on the airwaves, explaining, logically, that people getting shot and blown up constitute much more of a major story than the opening of a school. No matter how much O'Reilly and Ms. Ingraham want to spin it, covering war and civil strife tops all the other miniscule feel good stories that may happen in Iraq. I also think that comments about Ms. Logan's appearance are totally irrelevant to how she reports a story. What is important is her truth-telling, not how she looks when she reports that story in front of her camera. I suspect that she realizes that, unlike a Paula Zahn, she wasn't hired to be a Barbie Doll, but to report the facts and not act like a cheerleader for the military and the Bush Administration.
The pictures of Ingram in the shooting range are like an ad out of a gun magazine with a half clothed woman holding a machine gun.
"...For eight days" Beeeeutiful.
Ingram was NOT in Iraq for 8 days by my count.
It appears we're having a multifaceted discussion. 
Thirty bodies found beheaded. Why aren't they covering the opening of a new water facility?
holy cripes.... Lara Logan, where have you been all my life? You just won the war for my pants.
What makes a woman truly sexy? Is it a winning smile, perfect cheekbones, bedroom eyes, shapely legs, gravity-defying breasts or an ass one could bounce a quarter on? 
Bravissima! I've watched this three times so far.
Jesus, she's a whole lot of hot.
Okay, this chick is smart and hot, and this is coming from a straight, white female. And she's got a set of brass balls. I could call her a bitch if I was insecure, but I'm not. So guys, I'm not threatened by you saying you'd want to do her. If she was a stupid talking head, well then I'd want to smack you up side the head for trying to pollute the gene pool.
A brilliant piece of reporting. Certain to go down in media coverage of this war as a prize winning smack down. And yes, the fact that she is a "classic" beauty is very relevant. Like it or not, people respond more positivly to a pretty face (be it male or female). Lara Logan will command attention no matter what she says. The fact that she speaks truth to power with such intelligence and passion is substantial, her good looks and charm are the icing on the cake...
I would follow her anywhere.
That dick Kurtz pointed out that Nazi-chick Ingraham was in Iraq for 8 whole days. But he neglected to say it was 8 days in the a protective bubble of military hyper-security, surrounded by the hand-picked shills that gets briefed on how to suck up to Rummy and to Fox. Ingraham is evil, and so is Kurtz for defending her.
Logan's comment on Ingrahams' specious attack of 'balcony journalism' was the most telling in the entire clip.
Kurtz needs to spend the same omount of time in Iraq reporting as Logan and tell us the TRUTH as he see's it, not as this admin see's it
yeah...
Good for her.
Good God I'm in Love, deep, deep, deeply in love.
Truth,how refreshing is it to hear for a change.We need more of her.
Kurtz is the Platonic/ideal dolt.
... Guys like to look at women. It's nothing personal...
Ok, I'll be a man for two seconds and get it off my chest. She is beautiful. Given what I've been 
OK, color me another sexist who's in serious crush right now. That woman should be on TV every single night speaking truth to power. Can you imagine how much influence she'd have? You almost can't take your eyes off of her. But that's just the frosting. The cake is a serious fire inside. Wow.
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I'm in love
Watch it to the end and hear her comment, "eight days?!", regarding Ingraham's lirttle stay in Iraq. beautiful.
Oh My God. I'm in Love.
" ... for eight days." (eyebrows raised, smiling glance off-camera)
I've obviously underestimated the US news outlets, particularly CBS. I tend to avoid news from inside the US simply because it's far too nationalistic.
Such truth coming from such beauty...I'm betwixt between her being an absolute knockout and her being an incredible reporter who doesn't take any shit...
This is PRICELESS!
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I'd hit that . . . TWO times.
Wow Lara Logan is one nice looking, sophisticated, and intelligent woman. MMMM MMMM MMMM and that accent WOW is she something to behold. Ok fantasy over. Yeah she kicked their butts.
not something new, seen it before. somehow, journalists were to be above reproach. never happened. they bend with the wind. 99 perecent of them only care about their jobs, not really reporting what needs to be reported, what needs to be said. after all is said and done and the bush house of cards crumbles, watch them scurry to the other side. there are no ethics. the scumbags must be made to pay for this most grievous of a non-action. they may have the writing skills, they may have the education, they may have the high paying jobs, but a ho is a ho. they've prostituted themselves and their journalistic integrity in the worst possible way. they can't possibly believe what they're writing and saying on a daily basis. thus they're sellout ho's.
8 days! Ingram stayed one more day than it took for God to create the war-torn earth!
hot, and smart, too!
Enough of the misleading accusations of "Anonymous." Your self-righteous linkage of praising a woman' s attractiveness with sexism does a disservice to actual sexism: denigrating someone based on gender. If one of the posters were to have said, "oh, I don't know what the fuck she was talking about, but she sure is pretty and she'd make a better porn story than a reporter"--that would be sexist. No one is attempting to bring her down based on her high level of attractiveness. People are merely speaking honestly--albeit bluntly and even crudely--about their aesthetic and in many cases, yes, "libinal" responses. So, get off the high horse, the main gist of people's praise here is that Mrs. Logan has charism: beauty and truth mated together has a vivid impact. It's such a fresh change from the manipulation of beauty we see so often on Fox news where women who are attractive are shown as entertaining vessels for propaganda. Look at Lara, she's not spouting propaganda, she's speaking from the justified indignation of her heart and brain, united in an eloquent utterance: she speaks to the point and TV is a visual medium, her appearance becomes another rhetorical device that enhances the presentation, just like her accent. These attributes, while secondary to her message, help to convey her message. Neither the accent not the appearance denigrate her message; they help to communicate the message by arresting the attention for an American audience. Mrs. Logan carries her dignity through her clear adherence to high journalistic standards, no appreciative comments about her appearance are diminishing her dignity. Naked in truth, she stands proud and fierce while the Baghdad sirens sound in the background, reminding us that war has become the new state of Iraq.
What the heck is meme? Is this a deliberate typo or what? What does it mean?
Enough with the personal attacks.
She did a fantastic job of making the case against the Administration and its minions and their "where's the good news?" line of crap.
Articulate, passionate, beautiful. I love Lara Logan.
Is there an American who can talk this directly, and with that intensity? Also, does anybody else get the killer-fruit vibe from Laura Ingraham? Just askin'.
Lara Logan is right about everything she said. But that final look and the "8 days" comment would have made Murrow proud!
"For eight days."
So Laura Ingraham was in Iraq for 8 days? Did she go out in search of happy stories or did she stay on that famous balcony in the green zone for the whole time?
So like the point of "Good Night and Good Luck!"
Wow - I love it!!
yummy yum yum!
I never heard the "it will get attacked" angle before.
"8 days" ...very nice reaction...
Oh lord - calm my restless heart.
Kurtz or Logan? hmm. All facts aside she is way too hot to disagree with. I'd believe her if she told me the sun was blue and Saddam was a transvestite. She should run for President. I and many other hypnotized men would follow her lead anywhere. If President Logan ordered a pre-emptive attack on the moon I'd be looking for my space suit.
Heroic.
Hey Amato,
I see Mr. Kurtz addresses the subject in his piece this morning, but conveniently leaves out mentioning Lara Logan. I think she really put him and Laura Ignoraham in their respective places. Good for her!
I think Lara Logan's comment and expression at the end about Ingram's spending 8 days in Iraq was priceless -- That's all you needed to see.
Ingraham pwned!
The press has been stuck to Bush's ass for so long that George thought there was no end to the abuse they wouldn't take. Wrong again, a few are standing up to Bush, on their knee's but still fighting back. We can take heart in that. Maybe.
POW! 
She is my new hero. Wow.
Wow! Isn't CBS looking for an anchor?
could it have been any plainer that that asshole beltway toady kurtz didn't seem to like it, hemming and hawing when logan set him straight on his bullshit right-wing talking points? He even used the unattached "critics say" without IDing who those critics generally come from. and logan's scoffing at asshole kurtz's defense of ingraham was priceless. she really jumped up in esteem in my book for standing up as she did.
It's as plain as the sun in the sky. Coalition forces are no longer liberators. They are troops of occupation and policeman in the middle of a civil war. It's time to bring our soldiers home.
I recently interviewed an Iraq vet who said a big reason you don't see much in the way of "reconstruction stories" is that generally, when something is being rebuilt -- schools, hospitals, infrastructure of various kinds -- it's because our military destroyed it in the first place.
That is one amazing journalist and one amazing woman. I am in love on every possible level. Take me now, Lord.
Wow--she's so articulate and what passion. I hope she continues to tell it like it is!
Wow.
Good for her! 
I love when Lara rolled her eyes at Ingram being in Iraq for 8 days.
"...Lara Logan is destined to get the hook."
She's articulate and to the point
How refreshing to see and hear someone just open up and tell it as she sees it -- without all of the polical correctness and over-attribution. Lara Logan simply stated what she has seen and heard with her own eyes and ears.
How do we get her on the TV and Web more often? WOW!
Damn she is the Babe of Baghdad. I loved the money shot at the end when she she just smirked at Laura Ingraham's 8 days.
I noted an australian accent.
She was great! Nice smackdown she gave to Ingraham too.
I love how that BOOB, Howie Kurtz tried to cut off Lara with his statement, "Laura Ingraham was in Iraq... blah blah blah..." and Lara wasn't having any of it, and jumped in with, "FOR EIGHT DAYS!... FOR EIGHT DAYS!..." I want to have Lara Logan's baby. She is almost enough to make this really gay sailor (veteran) STRAIGHT!
Here are some good stories out of Iraq.
The no spin zone if it really was the no spin zone would look like this-Lara Logan is a very smart articulate woman. What she is talking about is exactly what w was warned about, before the war, they thought they would walk in and walk out of. He and his band of advisors took this counsel from wise men and essentially flushed it down the toilet. They are reaping the results of that attitude as we speak. It is a total disaster from all points of view. The brunt of their actions is bourne by the people of Iraq, and our soldiers for no valid reason, or cause, other than.....Lies,lies and more lies.
Kurtz gave her the lapse time to answer 
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