so the sunrise minyan at cornell - the ithaca vatikin - is redundant? cool.
is 'vatican' related as well?
I guess I wasn't clear - I think that Utica (and perhaps Ithaca) come from atik not vatik.
As far as the Vatican, I can't find anything to connect it. It seems to come from an Etruscan town called Vaticum. No one talks about Phoenician settlement there.
The BBC are shortly screening a feature-length docu-drama about Hannibal Barca; I got to see a preview (in HDTV! :o)) the other day. Much to my disappointment they went with the English-mangled-Latin-mangled Punic names, dragged backwards through a linguistic hedge. (Apart from that, it was very good.)
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