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Regarding Ben Yehuda's etymology, maybe the idea is that the nobles were paler-skinned than the folks who had to work out in the fields? (Compare Shir HaShirim 1:6.) This would then be similar to the origin of the English term "blue-blooded" (http://www.allwords.com/word-blue-blooded.html), though there it has more to do with (supposed) racial "purity."
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If anyone could tell me what Ibn Genach actually says about חורים I'd be interested - I think that would have more info than the short quote from Ben Yehuda.
I do think it's ironic that a word that might have originally meant "white" became associated with blacks in their search for freedom.
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03.24.07 - 9:45 pm | #
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what about Persian-Zoroastrian 'Ahura Mazda' (god of light). If the term was picked up in the Persian exile, there may be a connection, no?
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03.25.07 - 12:33 am | #
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From here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahura
it would seem that they have very different origins...
Dave (Balashon) |
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03.25.07 - 10:30 am | #
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"Heretic (c.1330) is ult. from Gk. hairetikos "able to choose." - etymonline.com
If "able to choose" is close enough to "free to choose", maybe the English word heretic is related to cherut.
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03.25.07 - 7:16 pm | #
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Would Hur (grandfather of Bezalel) be named in the hope of freedom?
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03.25.07 - 9:32 pm | #
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David G. - Possible, but it seems to me that the word meant "noble" before it meant "free" (the Daat Mikra explanation to the contrary). So he might have been a "nobleman".
Dave (Balashon) |
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03.25.07 - 9:40 pm | #
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To Phil: Anything's possible, I suppose. But Greek and Hebrew are in two entirely different language families (Indo-European for Greek and Semetic for Hebrew). I do wonder however how much borrowing there was between Greek and Aramaic in the days when they lived side-by-side.
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03.26.07 - 6:55 pm | #
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the Greek word Xeir - means hand. A famous classicist once suggested that the Greek and the Hebrew were connected. Manumission, the freeing of slaves, literally means the hand sends. chorin can have a greek origin.
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04.13.07 - 11:57 pm | #
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The question: Would Hur (grandfather of Bezalel) be named in the hope of freedom? ...Would seem to have its answer in that his grandson was a charosheth--and our Sages have noted that "engraved" (charat) should be read Cherut--freedom. Would it be safe to presume that Bezalel was a stone-cutter (& engraver) the son of stone cutter? Ironically, there is a phonetic connection to Charoseth which was to remeind us of working with the red-brick masonry of Mitzrayim.
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