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Another fabulous fisk Dale.
I sometimes wonder if I am living in the same universe as these writers. I have looked around and have found no storm-trooping curial troops bunkered around my diocese. I would like to ask him if Spock has a beard in his universe. An affirmative would do much to explain the article.
Dogma is the castor oil of these groups. They will not taste it or swallow it down even though it would cure them. And you just know that to them what is essential in Christian faith is that there is nothing essential to the Christian faith.
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shout out from Rochester...
Yo yo yo, NY in tha' howse, brutha.
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All I can say is: LOL.
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11.25.03 - 10:45 pm | #
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How 'bout Rochester, NY? We count too, right?
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oops, that comment didn't make sense. please disregard. *sigh*
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11.25.03 - 10:47 pm | #
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Marc,
Where are you in Rochester Diocese? I'm in Ithaca.
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11.25.03 - 10:48 pm | #
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O the violence thou hast wrought by way of thou incisive and pungent criticism!
But maybe one day even Ven. Macisse will concede that his silly views merited a good and sound beating.
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er, make that "thine incisive..."
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Oh my.
"Dialogue and diverisity" indeed!
Here are some more for your Devil's Dictionary (these are heaviliy ECUSA-flavored, adapt as you will):
Dialogue, n. The process of keeping your opponent talking while you continue to advance your agenda.
Diverisity, n. The state achieved when persons of all races, genders, beliefs, and orientations can rest assured that all expressions of intolerance have been suppressed.
Intolerance, n. Crimethink.
Fundamentalist, n. Someone who believes what their religion teaches is true. See also: Neanderthal.
Schismatic: A Fundamentalist who wants to keep the property.
peace,
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Violence is the application of physical, moral or psychological force to impose or coerce, and this should be unthinkable in the community of believers founded by Jesus, the Prince of Peace . . .
"And when he had made, as it were, a scourge of little cords, he drove them all out of the temple, the sheep also and the oxen: and the money of the changers he poured out, and the tables he overthrew." John 2:15 (DRV).
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http://www.geocities.com/the_the...modernism.html:
"Postmodernity is the latest manifestation of the Church’s perpetual crisis. It is fundamentally antithetical to the Gospel, but also offers significant opportunities. Post- modernism, and its difference from modernism, are notoriously difficult to define (the latter might be the difference between Morecambe & Wise and Monty Python). But for the former we may take Lyotard’s words "simplifying in the extreme, I define postmodern as incredulity towards meta-narrative". In post-modernity overarching theories, claiming to explain reality and give it value, are no longer believed. For 200 years the West told the story of modernism. Here European man (always a man) liberated himself from the Christianity’s false story on a quest for knowledge. Progress was inevitable as his intellectual and technological ability grew - he was building the New Jerusalem. But the deluge of horrors we call the twentieth century
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But the deluge of horrors we call the twentieth century has made this dream look hopelessly naïve. The narrative justified oppression of those who did not fit into it. Thus Foucault argues that truth claims are automatically acts of violence against dissenters; meta-narrative is inherently oppressive. Post-modernism is committed to philosophical pluralism, to listening to the marginaliseds’ stories, and to a refusal to see any meta-narrative as normative.
I'm amused at how close this description fits the position of dissident clergy.
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Next time I am in a shop I will be offended if the shop owner does "violence" to me by forcing a "truth claim" regarding the "price" of the good I wish to purchase. It will be best to resist her violence by asserting there is a plurality of truths, one of which is that the flat screen TV is free.
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Thanks, Jeff, for the kind words!
Dale Price |
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11.30.03 - 1:48 pm | #
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And the Spock's beard reference is dead on--these people are truly living in a parallel universe.
The "essentials" of the Christian faith are those that leave them in charge of the institutions and their own destinies. Tragic.
Dale Price |
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11.30.03 - 1:51 pm | #
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Zach:
I hate to keep harping on the Episkies, but the Robinson Moment has been immensely clarifying for me--it's amazing how much Grispeak there is in Catholic circles. And if the ECUSA isn't a walking, talking object lesson for us all, nothing is.
Dale Price |
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SAM: I almost used that reference, but I didn't--the excommunication verse pretty well demolishes Fr. Macisse.
Although I'm pretty sure he'd employ the h-c method to dance around that one.
Dale Price |
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Great stuff, Greg. I think I'll have to post some of it later--it's in the queue.
Dale Price |
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