Welcome! I hope you'll enjoy getting to know the Church as much as I did 25 years ago. Everywhere I looked, I found that the Catholic Church just has the Incarnation written all over it!
RC | Homepage | 06.27.05 - 3:49 am | #

Just based on the reading material Father J gave you, I'd say you're in good hands.

Welcome!
Toni Pacitti | 06.27.05 - 8:19 am | #

as someone who just moved around the corner from the Church that didn't return your phone call, I will drop a note in my weekly envelope with a question about that.
tk | 06.27.05 - 8:53 am | #

So the rumor is true! God bless, Dawn, know that my prayers for your are doubled for this journey! And I love the reading suggestions, as a cradle Catholic I don't get any of this kind of suggestion from the priests I know and I'm looking forward to this reading myself!

Keep me in your prayers? I've got some multiple health issues to face down right now, nothing major, or so we hope, just getting in my way...Thanks.
Annie B. | Homepage | 06.27.05 - 9:05 am | #

"Repelling Catholics In-Advertently"--LOL!! I hear this so much.
John J. Simmins | Homepage | 06.27.05 - 9:28 am | #

Knew it was coming just from reading your blog...Welcome!!!
Theresa | 06.27.05 - 9:39 am | #

Whew! *breathes sigh of relief*

Having been involved in two RCIA programs as a knowledgable observer/sponsor I was sweating as to whether you'd be turned off by RCIA.

In most cases, it's definetely not geared towards someone with as much knowledge of the faith as you already have. Even in the cases where a person needs the kind of remedial training presented, they often manage to make it so boring that I think folks who go through it are already serving time in purgatory.

But your friend seems to have advised you extremely well and the priests recommendations indicate you are in good hands as well.
Steve G. | 06.27.05 - 9:56 am | #

Welcome to the fun! I've been lurking on your blog for a while, and I'm delighted to hear you're taking the final steps.

I've been through the RCIA process as a sponsor, and even in an orthodox parish, certain inanities did make me want to murder people at times. Plus, parish educators and liturgy assistants are trained in incivility, I think. My mother is expecting her ninth child in a few days, and getting the woman who co-ordinates baptisms to call back was a major challenge of some months.
EileenR | Homepage | 06.27.05 - 10:06 am | #

You will be very blessed by the Magnificat. It is wonderful to have morning and evening prayer so handy. To be praying in unity with the whole church is edifying. Also the daily reading for mass are there so it is great to bring to daily mass. I would also reccomned reading, if you have not already, The Supper of the Lamb by Scott Hahn. Also Christopher West's works on The Theology of the Body. Be patient with RCIA, think of it as a springboard for your learning curve :).
jane | 06.27.05 - 10:08 am | #

I practically cried reading this. Though your story is as unique as you are, it still resonates deeply with me as something I could identify with.

This alone would have repaid the reading -- "Repelling Catholics In-Advertently" Sigh.
Colleen | 06.27.05 - 10:20 am | #

Welcome! Welcome!

The Church has benefitted greatly from the converts that it has attracted over the years, both the famous (like John Cardinal Newman, Evelyn Waugh, Alec Guinness, Malcolm Muggeridge, St. Edith Stein, Francis Cardinal Arinze, and Richard John Neuhaus) and not-famous.

Your work will be a wonderful gift. My prayers are with you.
maria | 06.27.05 - 10:33 am | #

Welcome! Don't take RCIA too seriously. Even the best classes are in the university sense, "guts". Read. Read some more. And then, when you have free time, read. And pray.
St. Alphonsus Liguori on The Glories of Mary,
St. Thomas a Kempis' The Imitation of Christ, and
St. Josemaria Escriva's The Way
I wholeheartedly recommend.
Recommend yourself to the Sacred Heart on a daily basis. Try Eucharistic Adoration if it is offered at anyplace near you. Rosary, Stations, and just visiting quietly with the Blessed Virgin are all great to discover the riches of becoming Catholic.
May your conversion be a joyful one!
Tom Fitzpatrick | Homepage | 06.27.05 - 10:34 am | #

An email msg to some address at Our Saviour's web site requesting that someone give you a call back sat in my Drafts folder for a month or so while I couldn't make up my mind whether or not to send it. I finally decided that to do it without checking with you first, since for all I knew at that point you might have changed your mind, might be out of line and deleted the message. I thank God for John Zmirak and Fr. J.

The Magnificat is a great aid to prayer, although I don't use it as regularly as I should. Even though I often neglect it I stubbornly refuse to let my subscription lapse, as that would be some kind of surrender that I'm determined not to make.

By the way, there's no law against keeping your King James Bible at hand and reading Magnificat's scripture passages from it.
Maclin Horton | Homepage | 06.27.05 - 10:52 am | #

Welcome! I say this as a new Catholic myself. My husband and I and our kids joined the Church this year. He studied under a priest while deployed in Iraq- for a long while it was just him and the priest, then others joined, and I went through the local RCIA program. He definitely got the better catechesis. I ended up getting more education from books, the internet and EWTN than from class. The leader and others in the class were all very nice, though. I just got an issue of Magnificat as well. It's a wonderful little publication, isn't it?

May God bless you on your journey.
Davida Thompson | 06.27.05 - 11:02 am | #

Great news! When reading your blog I often think back to that post about the gathering of Chesterton fans and your bristling at the suggestion that you would someday become Catholic. So I was just glad you were part of the family of Christian believers now and hoped none of us Catholic blogfans would push too hard and alienate you further from Catholicism. Yet, it wasn't much of a surprise when you started sounding more like a potential Catholic. I guess the resistance to what seemed to be error at the time was part of your openness to the Truth which led to this turn of events.
ro | 06.27.05 - 11:19 am | #

The liturgical year is a beautiful journey, and having Magnificat handy, with the readings there and surrounded by morning and evening prayer (which doesn't match the Liturgy of the Hours, but are just fine), is so wonderful.

The color of the vestments, the feasts of the saints, the stories of the life of the Lord, weave like a ribbon through the material of the days.

I can't recommend it enough. Having a St. Joseph's Missal is great, but Magnificat has beautiful art pieces, and meditations fresh each month.

I am so happy you are coming into the fullness of the faith in the Catholic Church.
Therese Z | Homepage | 06.27.05 - 11:31 am | #

I just completed my RCIA this past Easter and blogged my way through it at Eutychus Fell. One of the wonderful things about swimming in the Catholic Faith is that it actually has a deep end for those who seek a really good swim.
Dan | Homepage | 06.27.05 - 11:32 am | #

Hey Dawn!! Great stuff, Mo' Better Jews!
Janjan | Homepage | 06.27.05 - 11:37 am | #

Dawn -

Though solidly Protestant, I congratulate you on finding what your soul has been looking for. Thank God for his promise in Christ that those who seek will find. Good luck in your class and on your journey.
Lance | Homepage | 06.27.05 - 12:49 pm | #

Dawn -- why are you bothering with RCIA? RCIA is for the unbaptized. I know a lot of parishes try to squeeze all incoming into the RCIA process, but canonically that's not correct and there's no reason you should have to put up with it.

Everything I've heard about RCIA is that it's a miserable experience. Ask if you can do something else.

Greg
GregK | Homepage | 06.27.05 - 1:22 pm | #

Dawn:

Welcome! And let me vouch for Fr. Guissani's trilogy. A fabulous place to start and you will see a lot of similarities between Fr. Giussani and Pope Benedict's writings as they are both communio theologians of a stripe.

I don't know if Fr. J is associated with the Communion and Liberation ecclesial movement that Fr. Giussani founded. But they have quite a presence in NY. There are also a number in the blogosphere (myself being one) associated with CL. I mention only because they may be a resource to you as you read his trilogy. Right now, most CL groups in the US are studying the third book. Of course, Fr. J. should be your first resource.
JACK | Homepage | 06.27.05 - 1:22 pm | #

Thanks so much, everyone—really appreciate the good wishes.

Maclin, thanks for thinking of contacting the church. Funnily enough, after I mentioned on my blog that they hadn't returned my call, one reader actually did take it upon himself to write to them, urging them to contact me. The fact that they never responded and never contacted me, confirmed to me that I should not continue to approach them. Admittedly, they might have been shocked to receive an outraged letter from a Catholic who lived several states away, but that's no reason to ignore my request.

Anyway, that's all water under the bridge. I still attend that church from time to time and enjoy the service, and I'm glad I ended up going to Fr. J. for RCIA.
Dawn Eden | Homepage | 06.27.05 - 1:54 pm | #

Good ol' John Zmirak. He was the one who inspired me to get the hell out of the Sister-Stretchpants-Father-Frootloop RCIA program I was suffering in, and he found me a solid orthodox priest from whom to take individual instruction.

In my experience, the best that can be said for RCIA is it's a necessary evil. Just get through it so you can get in the door, but along the way educate yourself in what the Catholic faith really teaches. OTOH, you might have a great priest teaching it. Hope so.
Rod Dreher | 06.27.05 - 1:59 pm | #

Yay! Congratulations! I have been a lurker around here for quite some time, and often thought to myself that you should be swimming the Tiber one of these days.

Another book I can strongly recommend is Msgr. Ronald Knox's "The Belief of Catholics." Good stuff.
+veritas+ | Homepage | 06.27.05 - 2:04 pm | #

Greg,
Our RCIA class was about half baptized and have un-baptized. The only differences appeared to be that the unbaptized go through the three scrutinies and don't have to go to confession before Easter because they are cleaned through their baptism.
Dan | Homepage | 06.27.05 - 2:19 pm | #

As somebody who suffered through 2.5 dreadful RCIAs, let me offer a small defense of them. When done right (as they are at my parish) they really can be a very good way of ambling through the liturgical year and getting in touch with the "rhythm" so to speak of Catholic life. The key, of course, is to get one that is done right. I can give all sorts of personal experience-based advise on how to do them wrong.
Mark Shea | Homepage | 06.27.05 - 2:42 pm | #

Frequent reader ... rare poster. As a recent revert to Catholicism I also offer a hearty welcome. I actually decided to go through RCIA when my wife decided to convert with me. I saw it as penance for my walking away from the Church in my youth :) ... Seriously, I was not as turned off as I expected because I heard so many horror stories. In our diocese they have subject matter experts and the two best ones were the experts on Mary and Communion of the Saints. The Church history lecture was ... well ... lacking ... I don't even think the word Arian appeared in it anywhere but the word change was frequently cited. Still the woman running RCIA cleaned up that mess with a post-lecture lecture on truth and the things that DON'T change.

Other than that every talk was top notch. They were wishy washy on a few hard teachings but they eventually spit them out perfectly in line with Church teaching.
Ggoose | Homepage | 06.27.05 - 2:44 pm | #

I am very happy for you Dawn.
Paul | 06.27.05 - 3:50 pm | #

Congratulations! I just finished RCIA myself about three years ago and it's always a joy to meet others on the same path. I'll also add my approval to the pile of reading material - I *love* my _Magnificat_.
Belinda | Homepage | 06.27.05 - 3:54 pm | #

Dawn -- obviously you should work this out with your parish priest, but this is not a necessary evil. When I came into the church my priest (trying to spare me) looked it up and discovered that RCIA is only for the unbaptized. There is no need for you to go through it.

Anyway, glad to hear the news, and welcome.
GregK | Homepage | 06.27.05 - 4:19 pm | #

Dawn,

Thanks for your story so far.

Since my wife and I hope to begin RCIA classes in the fall, I suspect I'll be returning here over next several months to check up on your progress.

I'll keep my hopes up that we'll have wise teachers, but even if they "can't teach a hound dog how to tree a coon", I'll try to be grateful for the educational opportunities I've had up till now and hope that all that book learnin will make up the balance.

I'll just keep telling myself that false teaching is always just false teaching, but poor teaching, like any evil - or at least inconvenience -- patiently endured, can be an opportunity for grace to work.

PS

Is there not a note of Catholic triumphalism in the RC Cola reference? As I recall, the jingle went:

"Me and my RC
Me and my RC,
What's good enough for other folks,
Ain't good enought for me."
wtb | 06.27.05 - 4:56 pm | #

Dawn,

Congratulations on starting the RCIA process!

Thomas
Thomas | 06.27.05 - 5:06 pm | #

Magnificat is great. I use it for daily Mass and the meditation for Adoration chapel afterwards. It is a great way to learn about the saints
Congrtats.
wodamark | 06.27.05 - 5:40 pm | #

I did not go through the RCIA process(it wasn't in place in Los ANgeles in 1971 when I took my first set of instructions, nor in 1973 when I was actually rec'd). I have seen it from the outside at several parishes now, and I think that well done it immerses one in the rhythm and culture of the church, and poorly done it makes one wonder why bother becoming catholic!
I much preferred what I experienced - a short set of no committment required 'inquiry' classes (based on a catechism, with lots of time for basic questions) followed by intense personal instruction from a priest (in my case a Jesuit who was an RA at the college I was attending) and setting a date for my reception into the church. I came in on my 18th birthday because it was the earliest I could legally do it! (didn't want to wait 3 more months till easter, though in retrospect that would have been a wild party!).
Dawn, I have been praying that you would continue to walk in your search for Truth and I think that God has sent you to the right person at the right time. God bless and keep you and may St Max continue to bless your journey.
alicia | Homepage | 06.27.05 - 5:45 pm | #

oh - and who was it that said (about conversion)
"come on in - it's perfectly awful"?
alicia | Homepage | 06.27.05 - 5:46 pm | #

After reading the posts and good wishes from so many obviously astute, learned, and faithful Papists, I am shocked--shocked--that no one has recommended Ms. Eden acquire a copy of the Catechism of the Catholic Church. Heaven forfend!

Dawn, one more convert (2003) and occasional "lurker" of your blog wishes you the very best on your Romeward journey. May the Saints preserve you from fire, flood, famine, and liturgical dancing girls.
Stephen | 06.27.05 - 6:18 pm | #

A small second to Mark Shea's small defense of RCIA: it really isn't always bad. I can vouch, for instance, for the one I helped with in my parish a couple of years ago being very healthy from the doctrinal standpoint.

In general, reading Catholic blogs has made it pretty clear to me that some dioceses really are better than others, and that I'm in one of the more solid ones (Mobile, Alabama).

And of course some parishes are better than others. There are parishes here that I would stay well away from.
Maclin Horton | Homepage | 06.27.05 - 6:44 pm | #

I can agree, Mac, in principle that RCIA isn't always bad. But if you think about it, that's a depressing thing for Catholics to have to say. One reason that the Church was, and is, so attractive to me is that it has solid, authoritative teaching. If you want to know what Catholicism teaches, you can look it up. But there is such an organized attempt by the institutional church -- ordained and lay -- to deny the Truth to catechumens and the faithful. Why is that? [I ask rhetorically; I know why it is.] It's important for those who are coming into the Church to be aware that you cannot automatically trust anything a priest or a parish lay official tells you about Catholic teaching unless you have prior solid reason to believe they are orthodox. I argue with a Catholic colleague of mine all the time who believes all kinds of seriously heterodox things, and insists that his beliefs are just as valid as anybody else's, because Monsignor Said So way back when.
Rod Dreher | 06.27.05 - 8:25 pm | #

Congratulations, Dawn. I hope it goes well for you.
Jack Bennett | Homepage | 06.27.05 - 9:26 pm | #

Dawn,
I met you once in NYC (with Fr. B.), and wanted to say: CONGRATS! I also know Fr. J, and he's a really great priest -- got to love the white outfit (when he gets around to wearing it). Anyway, don't forget to check out the bookstore of St. Agnes, which IMHO is the best concentrated collection of good Catholic books in NYC (church location: 143 E. 43rd Street, right by Grand Central).

Welcome home!
Mark Wyman | Homepage | 06.27.05 - 10:26 pm | #

Rod,

It's important for those who are coming into the Church to be aware that you cannot automatically trust anything a priest or a parish lay official tells you about Catholic teaching unless you have prior solid reason to believe they are orthodox.

So sad, so true. No argument there, and yeah it is pitiful that my assertion that it's not universal night out there is the best I can say about RCIA.

My wife has some Catholic co-workers--people from families with centuries-long roots in the Church--who don't seem to make much distinction between the Pope and, say, Deepak Chopra.
Maclin Horton | Homepage | 06.27.05 - 10:41 pm | #

Dear Dawn,

I've just received a message indicating that you left a message for the RCIA director at Church of Our Savior and got no call back. I am the RCIA director and was very sorry to hear it. It's been my policy to return every message I get on the same day I receive it. I don't work at the Church. Due to what appears to have been a misunderstanding, the person at the church responsible for forwarding my messages to me failed to do so and I've only just gotten the message you left March 2. It looks like there was a repeat attempt on March 4 via email from Mark Wyzalek which also failed to get to me.

I'm relieved to hear you've found Father Buda (at St Mary's?). I know Father Buda well and he is terrific. If you would still be interested in attending our class, it starts in September. A lot of people who are already in the Church attend the class regularly and have found it helpful. I've attached a short description of the class and the syllabus. Inspired by the emphasis of our new pope on liturgical reform, we will be adding some features to the class this year - a little instruction in Gregorian chant, optional adoration before some classes, and possibly the opportunity for a retreat at a nearby monastery with some terrific prayerful silent nuns, the Little Sisters of Bethlehem.

Please let me know if you'd like to be on our email distribution list for the class starting in September.

Best,
Colin Moran



RCIA Class: for people who seek Baptism or Confirmation in the Roman Catholic Church (also welcome is anyone who wants to learn more, Catholic, non-Catholic, or just curious)

WHEN: Tuesday nights, starting Sept xx through Easter (7pm - 8:15pm). Contact Church of Our Savior with questions (212-679-8166)

WHERE: Church of Our Savior (Park Ave & 38th St - enter on 38th St)

FORMAT: Generally the two co-teachers (Geoff Gentile, Colin Moran) will make some introductory comments and lead a discussion based on assigned readings. We'll often have guest speakers. The tone of our discussions was expressed by John Paul II's reminder that "To challenge does not necessarily mean to destroy or reject but above all to put values to the test in one's own life, and through this existential verification to make them more real, relevant and personal."

CONTENT: Main thrust of our class is captured by St Irenaeus' observation that "the glory of God is man fully alive, and the life of man is the vision of God." We aim for you to understand the core claims of the Roman Catholic Church in terms of their meaning within human experience. We envision the class as a period of self-discovery occasioned by looking into the face of Christ.

We will study the Apostle's Creed, the Gospels and the Sacraments and then use that study as a platform for understanding the Church's moral teachings, particularly the more controversial ones. Topics covered include:

- Sin and Grace

- Christ's Incarnation, Crucifixion and Resurrection

- Holy Trinity

- God Speaking through Beauty

- Theology of the body and related teachings on sexuality and marriage

- Sacraments, especially Baptism, the Eucharist and Confession

- Prayer

- Gospels

- Authority of the Church

- Culture of Life

- Freedom, Virtue and the Ten Commandments
colin moran | 06.27.05 - 10:50 pm | #

Best wishes, Dawn. I will definitely keep you in my prayers during your journey!
Kimberly | Homepage | 06.27.05 - 11:27 pm | #

FYI: You didn't say which "parish near Columbia U.", but if it's Corpus Christi on W. 121st St., just off Broadway, two blocks north of CU, then you know by now that it's the parish where Thomas Merton was received into the Church (in 1935, I think?). Guess they have a good famous-convert track record.

Way to go, Dawn!
Patrick McGrath | 06.27.05 - 11:39 pm | #

Kick save, and a beauty!

Nice pad work, Colin.
Kenny | 06.28.05 - 12:38 am | #

As a Protestant, I'm comfortable with any path that leads you closer to Christ, Dawn. That said I feel obligated to put in one word for the Protestants. Your blog indicates you are switching to Catholic because you like the particular church in NYC. I'd feel a lot more comfortable with your decision if you were talking about how you had examined the issues which still distinguish Catholic and Protestant and that you were making your decision on that basis. You might want to add Martin Luther to your reading list before you finalize this decision. These days Cathollics and Evangelicals have more in common than we have differences, of course. So I'll support whatever path you take to Christ.

-Rick
Richard J. Stuart | Homepage | 06.28.05 - 7:29 am | #

Richard: "I thought about writing about why I want to become Catholic, and perhaps I will at some point. But I think the reasons are already clear to my Catholic friends... ".
As a convert myself from a Protestant background I think it's a real safe bet Dawn didn't convert because she likes a particular church in Manhattan.
Paula Ruth McIntyre Robinson M | 06.28.05 - 8:54 am | #

Yeah...I'm with Paula Ruth on that one, Rick.
Janjan | Homepage | 06.28.05 - 8:58 am | #

Hi Dawn,

Although I'm Lutheran, I wanted to congratulate you on your journey across the Tiber. While there are theological disagreements that I can't resolve at this time, I really admire devout, orthodox Catholics. I admire how they resist pressure to "change with the times" -- pressure that too many Protestant churches succumb to. I also admire the fact that they are mostly immune to a lot of the anti-intellectualism* that can be found in some Protestant circles.

Anyway, all the best to you in your journey. :-)

*I really don't like that term, but I can't think of a better one right now.
Susan B. | Homepage | 06.28.05 - 9:20 am | #

Rick, this has been in the making for a long time, and the issues you raise have been thoroughly hashed out in various comment threads. Read back through the archives over the last few months, and you'll get a clearer picture of the objections she had and how they were overcome. It's definitely not about one particular parish.

I'll echo Lance's comment, Dawn. It's evident that what you're seeking is to know Christ more fully and to belong wholly to Him, and He promises to honor that desire abundantly.

Thanks, too, for linking to that inspiring story of one man's search for the One True Cola. It didn't move me to tears, but it did make me crave a Moon Pie.
Michael Bates | Homepage | 06.28.05 - 9:54 am | #

On my blog I've been writing about my journey into the Catholic Church, which happened this past Easter. It wasn't easy, but I am so glad I did it, and I have a real peace about it.
I met Dawn, exactly one week before Easter, at the "Jews in The Church" Conference in NYC. Dawn, chin up! And call me if you need a boost!
Janjan | Homepage | 06.28.05 - 9:58 am | #

I also express doubt about her conversion to Catholicism on the stength of liking a particular church.

I have severely strained relationships with friends and family because of my decision. No matter how much I would have liked a particular Catholic Church, it wouldn't have been worth it if I didn't believe the Church to be the one founded by Christ.
What the Catholic Church teaches seem too outrageous to flippantly fall into. It is either true or it is NOT true. It demands a thorough examination and either assent or rejection. You realize at some point the decision is going to be permanent one. There is no looking at the other churches down the street after this. THEN you are stuck with all of those people in the pew next to you.

Never fear Rick, in my journey through RCIA it seems that the Church was very concerned that converts know what they are getting in to. Its like ... "are you REALLY sure you believe all of this?"

I am sure private instruction is very much the same. If she hasn't encountered her most compelling objection leading up to now, she likely will before she enters the Church.
Ggoose | Homepage | 06.28.05 - 10:03 am | #

Dawn, God bless you as you move on in the way He has invited you. It looks like you've found what you'll need, including more books than can possibly be read by anyone except the Old Oligarch.

I'm so encouraged by the expressions of good will from the Protestant commenters that have written so far. All of us, Protestant and Catholic, who are fully faithful to God and who sincerely want to follow him are truly brothers and sisters. In some ways, we are much more in union with one another than with some of the more liberal co-religionists in our own denominations, aren't we?

Ah, the surprises of the Holy Spirit.
Roz | Homepage | 06.28.05 - 12:52 pm | #

Dawn, I don't comment here often, but I read pretty frequently. I've been wondering the last few months if you were going to take the plunge... I wish you the very, very best and ask the Holy Spirit to accompany you closely on the way.
Margaret | 06.28.05 - 2:40 pm | #

(Catholic readers, please forgive me if my terminology is inexact; I'm at the beginning of the learning curve here.)

As a Cradle Catholic, you don't know how humurous that sounds. Many of us Cradles are so far behind the curve from Protestant converts, its like one of those Escher drawings that you don't know where it starts or ends.
c matt | 06.28.05 - 7:01 pm | #

btw:

RC Cola and RCIA are God's way of proving to us that purgatory exists and we should do everything in our power to minimize our time there.

Both should earn an indulgence.
c matt | 06.28.05 - 7:04 pm | #

Hey, I like RC! But, can I still get my indulgence? :-)
TonyR | 06.30.05 - 4:48 pm | #

Wonderful news, Dawn! I eagerly look forward to your future posts re: your conversion.

May God richly bless you on your journey & may it bring you ever closer to our Saviour, Jesus Christ!
Gene Branaman | 06.30.05 - 5:20 pm | #

Dawn,

I'm that ruling elder from the Village Church you emailed with a bit in Jan 2004 about the "Velvet Rope Communion" experience.

Hmmmmm....I'm smiling. Are you going to write a piece Roman Catholic Communion practice?

Many blessings to you in your journey and on finally finding a spiritual home.

Peace,

Alan
alan | 07.20.05 - 11:17 am | #

Thanks for the good wishes, Alan.

I never had any problem with Roman Catholics' fencing the table. It makes sense when you believe that Communion is Christ's body and blood. It's when a pastor openly proclaims, "Of course, we know this isn't really Jesus" and then says "but if you're not under a church's leadership, taking this would be bad for you," that something doesn't smell right in the presbyteriat.
Dawn Eden | Homepage | 07.20.05 - 1:13 pm | #

Oh my goodness! I only neglect your excellent
blog for a year and a half, and I miss the news
that you're coming home! Hallelujah!

I thought you were a good candidate, reading
Christopher West and all.

I converted myself a few years ago, after I had to
admit that I wasn't the wisest being in the universe.

Welcome to the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic.
You'll love it here. God Bless!
Michael Galbraith | 05.01.06 - 11:01 pm | #