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The Dawn Patrol: Comments |
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If you missed the classic "Superhero for Choice" cartoon and can handle a teensy 3 meg download (and explicit ego stroking), grab it here. |
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wow..when the Super hero first came I thought it was the devil...wonder if they realized that is what she looked like, horns and all...how appropriate |
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And down she goes — with her giggling face right where her boyfriend's penis would be... |
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Thanks for the link to the stop tax funding site, petition signed, link sent on to others. |
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don't forget to write your representatives! Cut and paste these pictures in your letter. It's really tough to justify this stuff when it's in their face. If you write a generic "I don't like PP" letter, you will be ignored. Get specific! |
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"PPGG’s goal to help teens and young adults make educated, responsible decisions when it comes to their sexuality and reproductive health." |
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Dawn, |
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one of those squeezy things used by office workers to stave off carpal-tunnel syndrome. |
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Next week they're releasing the video showing her father giving the lessons. |
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Link to video now dead. Think the sponsors are getting cold feet? /sarcasm |
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Link to the video just has a formatting problem: try this: |
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Dawn, about that PP factoid 54% of aborting women used contraception the month that the conception occured...it could mean that when Cindy was with Bob he used a condom, but when she was with Dave, he didn't... that's a condom failure. |
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Very classy ad, BTW. Am I putting too much faith in the sophistication of today's youth when I expect that most upper-teens would just roll their eyes at the sheer banality? As if all those 13-year-olds are listening to their Dad's advice! |
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There's a radio commercial, too |
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The next thing you'll know we will have to be showing this to kindergarteners in public schools, God forbid! I will pray and ask Our Blessed Mother to stop theses atrocities. Do you have some rosaries? If not, get some and give it a go. Fabulous strength is delivered against evils. I will add your blog to my site. God Bless |
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Just another reason why we got rid of cable TV and will never allow it in our home ever again. |
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RA, there's no such thing as reductio ad absurdum anymore. Back in my Family Court days a father explained to us the reason he would be having sexual relations with his barely pubescent daughters. It's because he knew they would eventually be gang-raped, so it was important that they know what sex felt like so they could be prepared for it. |
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just when you thought things couldn't get any worse... |
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I fully support taxpayer funded room and board for such an individual. |
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My Goodness, I remember, as a teen, that holding hands with a guy gave me goose pimples, and kissing and hearing a crush say he loved me was all I ever wanted. What will these poor kids do in their twenties and thirties, when they're taught to be so jaded as to need handcuffs at age 15, in order to get excited? It's all so sad. It makes me think that the pedophiles and disinhibited homophiles are conditioning our kids, battering them with porn imagery and suggestions, softening them like "Accent" on meat, all with the purpose of making the kids completely passive and accepting of molestation by older adults. |
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Does anyone else see the disconnect between the monstrous lifestyle this advertisement espouses and the reference therein to the young lady living by sage, patriarchal advice? One of these things is not like the other. |
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C.J., he got plenty of taxpayer room and board. And, according to later testimony, while he was in jail Mom paid a guy $100.00 per month to act in his place, being a surrogate father to the children and servicing the mother's sexual needs. He also had a thing for servicing the teenage daughter. When Mom explained that Angela was not part of the deal, he called the whole thing off. |
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Thanks for the fix on tre vid, Dawn. |
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Just as an FYI, I wouldn't sign up on "Stop Planned Parenthood Tax Funding dot com," unless I wanted to get on a fundraising mailing list. Working behind the scenes at such an organization, I can say that this is generally the primary function of such "petitions." |
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You know, if a priest showed such sexually explicit material to kids, he'd be jailed and the church sued for millions of dollars. |
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This makes me sick. I'm so tired of being stereotyped as a sex-starved, MTV-absorbed, self-absorbed, having no self-control when it comes to sex, desiring multiple partners instead of just one (perhaps not even that), superficial, trendy teenager! I'm sick of being immersed in this garbage. It's so tiring to have to go through it all being considered "weird" for doing what I do, and knowing I'm different from everyone else, and it's all because of the propaganda from Planned Parenthood and MTV! Since when are they 'youth friendly'? They only 'care' about the youth they can deceive! The rest of us can be ridiculed for the rest of our lives, and it would not bother their conscience! And another thing that frustrates me to no end is the fact that I as a senior next year have to take sex ed, which includes the theory on how to use a condom. |
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Okay, I just downloaded and watched the commercial. It is not clear what the "young girl" (so "young" that she`s shown working at a construction site -- oooh, child labor, too?) is doing under the sheets. |
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In PP's defense, one doesn't have to be engaging in sexual activity to derive entertainment from fur handcuffs. Besides, if law enforcement used them, maybe the kind treatment would set them on the road to reform! Or maybe we'd just see more repeat offenders... could go either way on that one. |
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"But this one doesn`t bother me at all." |
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This is disturbing. I haven't seen MTV in a few years, but this is sewage scum compared to the worst things I noticed 'back in the day'... |
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John R., what age are we talking about here? Little kids don`t watch MTV -- they watches the Disney channel. Or else their parents aren`t doing their jobs? |
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I'm wondering about the reference to MTV. This is basically a local spot. I'm wondering if it's really just running on local cable systems during local commercial breaks on the MTV channels. Yes, it appeals to MTV viewers, but the actual ad purchase was probably made with the cable reps, not MTV. |
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Well, if "use a condom" is the most insidious message my kids will get, I think I can stop worrying. |
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Actually, "safe sex" includes using a condom for oral sex. You can get STD's through the mucous membranes of the mouth. |
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Far weirder sex-ed schemes than this get funding from Our Federal Government - self-anointed Messiah Rev. Sun Myung Moon runs his own sex-ed program for schoolkids, with public funding, in public schools, but no one seems to get up-in-arms over that. (It advocates abstinence. I guess that's why.) |
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Aside from the obvious - the other thing the bothered me about the PP spot was the gender reversal. The woman (girl) going to work coming home to a waiting "partner" submissive in bed. And then she rips her clothes off and attacks. Is this the fruit of radical feminism? Is the message a combination of 'it is ok to "work" anyone if you have tool box' and 'Hey girls go get yours cause you be in charge.'? |
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Got a link for info on the Moon thing, Intemperate? I'd get worked up about that. |
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Wait a minute! What's disturbing about a woman working and earning money, and what's disturbing about her taking an active role in sex with her partner? Do you think that women working is unusual, or that her initiating sex is? What the heck is the harm in either of these things? |
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I don't think those are fur handcuffs in the middle of the toolbox. I think those are bunny ears attached to a headband. Seems to me that any reference to rabbits in a Planned Parenthood commercial sends a mixed message. |
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So why aren't the uterofascists up in arms against this attempt to portray a girl – pardon me, sexually-aware woman - as nothing more than a pole polisher for some pimply-faced boy? Surely there's some industrial-scale degradation going on here that any self-respecting feminist should be appalled by. |
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Well, I consider myself a "radical" feminist, so I guess I`m qualified to answer your question, Joel: |
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I gotta say, though, the bunny ears in the box are a bit tacky. |
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"it ain`t degradation if she LIKES it" |
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Dawn: |
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(Also, the curriculum itself tends to get sort of creepy. Not strictly in a Moonie way. Just... creepy. Particularly the chapter called "What Is Your Price Tag?" I went through public school myself, and they never ran us through anything remotely that creepy.) |
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Kate B., did you just equate oral sex with rape? Plenty of women enjoy giving their male partners oral sex; there's nothing degrading about it unless it is demanded as a right rather than done out of mutual love or pleasure. |
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L., |
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Kate B.: Your statement seems to veer dangerously close to that oft-misinterpreted, half-urban-legend old saw that All Sex Is Rape, unless i'm misreading you. |
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Intemperate-- |
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But in the context of this particular discussion and the advertisement under discussion, you are in fact implying that fellatio is degrading and that it involves the man using the woman to her detriment. I have in fact heard people express this opinion before and have never understood it, as you rarely hear people say the same thing about cunnilingus. |
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Once you get past the, "she likes it, so it must be OK" answer, you can honestly ask whether fellatio and cunnilingus are degrading, which was my point. |
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Well, Kate, that's what I'm asking you. If, say, someone insisted that male-superior sex was degrading, and another person replied that it was okay as long as the woman liked it, I doubt anyone would bother to complain about the reasoning unless they thought the practice of male-superior sex was, in fact, degrading. |
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Intemperate, thanks for the Moon links -- will check them out. I'm not a fan of his. |
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I'm still waiting to hear what is particularly offensive about a woman initiating sex. Would this ad be less offensive to you if it were a man working, who then came home and jumped on a woman who was waiting for him in bed? |
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Ledasmom: |
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"I'm saying that subjective enjoyment does not eliminate the fact that something may be degrading. That kind of logic can be used to justify rape or other violent and degrading acts." |
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If there is, as I think there is, a universal human dignity, then any act which violates that dignity is degrading, whether the participants consent to it or not. If it's possible that a particular sexual practice violates that dignity, then questions about its being degrading can legitimately be asked in a discussion of sexual morality. If we abandon the idea of universal human dignity, we are possibly opening the philosophical door to the acceptance of degradations such as rape and coercion. IOW, degradation despite consent is a legitimate concern. |
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I am not sure if I believe in a "universal human dignity," but again, you say that to abandon such a concept, "we are possibly opening the philosophical door to the acceptance of degradations such as rape and coercion." Again, I will say that neither rape nor coercion involve consent, which makes them as evil as they are. |
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C'mon, this is 2006, not 1956! Safe sex is better than UNSAFE sex. Which is why teens are getting knocked up in school. I rather my daughter watch a commercial about safe sex than learning from her "friends" that putting a ziplock baggie over his penis will protect them. |
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I'm ashamed of my chosen profession. |
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