The Dawn Patrol: Comments

If you missed the classic "Superhero for Choice" cartoon and can handle a teensy 3 meg download (and explicit ego stroking), grab it here.


wow..when the Super hero first came I thought it was the devil...wonder if they realized that is what she looked like, horns and all...how appropriate

I cannot believe they get away with this stuff...I truly don't think most parents know. Wish we could get a copy of this junk into the hands of every parent....


And down she goes — with her giggling face right where her boyfriend's penis would be...


If he had a penis.

I'm deeply offended by the heterocentric nature of this ad.


Thanks for the link to the stop tax funding site, petition signed, link sent on to others.


don't forget to write your representatives! Cut and paste these pictures in your letter. It's really tough to justify this stuff when it's in their face. If you write a generic "I don't like PP" letter, you will be ignored. Get specific!


"PPGG’s goal to help teens and young adults make educated, responsible decisions when it comes to their sexuality and reproductive health."

What's truly frightening is that they think this is possible. Either they've never been teenagers or they think that a responsible decision means obeying every whim of your hormones.


Dawn,

Second paragraph, last sentence...

In the face of public outrage over the cartoon, which portrayed a pro-life "superhero" blowing up peaceful pro-lifers

...I think you meant pro-choice, no?

[Whoopsy -- sure did. Thanks - Ed.]


one of those squeezy things used by office workers to stave off carpal-tunnel syndrome.

Er . . . what would you even do with that??? What is the purpose of having it in a safe-sex tool box to begin with? Never mind the twelve-year-olds; this is giving me something to think about, and quite frankly, I'm a bit mystified.


Next week they're releasing the video showing her father giving the lessons.


Link to video now dead. Think the sponsors are getting cold feet? /sarcasm

[My mistake — should be good now. - Ed.]


Link to the video just has a formatting problem: try this:

http://www.ppgg.org/site/c.esJMKZPKJtH/b.1552217/ k.9DBD/TV_Commercials.htm


Dawn, about that PP factoid 54% of aborting women used contraception the month that the conception occured...it could mean that when Cindy was with Bob he used a condom, but when she was with Dave, he didn't... that's a condom failure.

I've heard a few dozen accounts of unplanned pregnancies and only two of the women stated that contraception had failed - the other accounts were of just taking chances, or possibly rhythm roulette - people thinking they understood NFP.

It p.o.'d me when Clinton talked at the convention about Chelsea wanting to design space stations so she needed "choice" in her life - a space station engineer had better be able to come up with multiplying fail-safes - it had better be second nature to her.

A fair number of the people I have known with unplanned pregnancies have had advanced degrees in science and medicine - but they just didn't take the same care with their lives and their children's lives that they did with their professions.


Very classy ad, BTW. Am I putting too much faith in the sophistication of today's youth when I expect that most upper-teens would just roll their eyes at the sheer banality? As if all those 13-year-olds are listening to their Dad's advice!

Sure can't wait for the military-themed follow-up: 'Put a helmet on that soldier!'[/snark]


There's a radio commercial, too

The radio spot continues the safety theme with a conversation between two girl friends shopping at a hardware store. One friend tells the other that her boyfriend is visiting Planned Parenthood to get his "tool" professionally checked. She expresses the desire to raise a family, but not until she's ready.

The Press Release

Can someone 'splain to me why a guy would "get his 'tool' professionally checked" if he weren't concerned about an STD?


The next thing you'll know we will have to be showing this to kindergarteners in public schools, God forbid! I will pray and ask Our Blessed Mother to stop theses atrocities. Do you have some rosaries? If not, get some and give it a go. Fabulous strength is delivered against evils. I will add your blog to my site. God Bless


Just another reason why we got rid of cable TV and will never allow it in our home ever again.


RA, there's no such thing as reductio ad absurdum anymore. Back in my Family Court days a father explained to us the reason he would be having sexual relations with his barely pubescent daughters. It's because he knew they would eventually be gang-raped, so it was important that they know what sex felt like so they could be prepared for it.

Gosh, that was a great job!


just when you thought things couldn't get any worse...


I fully support taxpayer funded room and board for such an individual.


My Goodness, I remember, as a teen, that holding hands with a guy gave me goose pimples, and kissing and hearing a crush say he loved me was all I ever wanted. What will these poor kids do in their twenties and thirties, when they're taught to be so jaded as to need handcuffs at age 15, in order to get excited? It's all so sad. It makes me think that the pedophiles and disinhibited homophiles are conditioning our kids, battering them with porn imagery and suggestions, softening them like "Accent" on meat, all with the purpose of making the kids completely passive and accepting of molestation by older adults.


Does anyone else see the disconnect between the monstrous lifestyle this advertisement espouses and the reference therein to the young lady living by sage, patriarchal advice? One of these things is not like the other.

"No daughter of mine is going to get sexed up on television by some helmet-wearing chump."

Bet she didn't listen to that one.


C.J., he got plenty of taxpayer room and board. And, according to later testimony, while he was in jail Mom paid a guy $100.00 per month to act in his place, being a surrogate father to the children and servicing the mother's sexual needs. He also had a thing for servicing the teenage daughter. When Mom explained that Angela was not part of the deal, he called the whole thing off.

"No Angela, no Domingo." That became a popular phrase in the child protective division for some years thereafter.

Oh, meanwhile teen-age brother was MTV'ing the eight year old daughter.


Thanks for the fix on tre vid, Dawn.

HAving seen it, maybe I'm too forgiving, but I don't see the fellatio connotation.

That said, it is still in brainless taste.

Keep up the good work! This is a great blog!


Just as an FYI, I wouldn't sign up on "Stop Planned Parenthood Tax Funding dot com," unless I wanted to get on a fundraising mailing list. Working behind the scenes at such an organization, I can say that this is generally the primary function of such "petitions."

If you want to support an organization because you believe they will do something helpful, go ahead and sign their petition. (Make sure to check 990 forms of pro-life orgs to see what an organization is actually doing with their donations first. Are they spending it on actual education programs or on salaries, administrative costs and fundraising? Make sure you know what your dollar is doing.)

If you really want to see things like this from PP stopped pray, sacrifice, write politicians, educate locally, and volunteer.

Personally, I think the best places to support to counteract Planned Parenthood are the pro-life pregnancy resource centers. Not only do they give alternatives to abortion, they very often educate women and men in the area of sexual integrity/chastity.

It's just my opinion, but I don't believe signing a petition is the most effective way to help the victims of PPs campaign of assaults on purity and death to infants.


You know, if a priest showed such sexually explicit material to kids, he'd be jailed and the church sued for millions of dollars.

There is a word for people who show kids sexually explicit materials in order to lower their inhibitions: pedophiles.


This makes me sick. I'm so tired of being stereotyped as a sex-starved, MTV-absorbed, self-absorbed, having no self-control when it comes to sex, desiring multiple partners instead of just one (perhaps not even that), superficial, trendy teenager! I'm sick of being immersed in this garbage. It's so tiring to have to go through it all being considered "weird" for doing what I do, and knowing I'm different from everyone else, and it's all because of the propaganda from Planned Parenthood and MTV! Since when are they 'youth friendly'? They only 'care' about the youth they can deceive! The rest of us can be ridiculed for the rest of our lives, and it would not bother their conscience! And another thing that frustrates me to no end is the fact that I as a senior next year have to take sex ed, which includes the theory on how to use a condom.
I think I'll purposely fail that test. That's at least my plan until Jesus tells me something better.


Okay, I just downloaded and watched the commercial. It is not clear what the "young girl" (so "young" that she`s shown working at a construction site -- oooh, child labor, too?) is doing under the sheets.

I objected to the last controversial video produced by PP Golden Gate (the one that personally slammed pro-lifers, which I thought was uncalled for). But this one doesn`t bother me at all.

Then again, I am a satisfied PP customer, so I admit I do have a certain point of view.


In PP's defense, one doesn't have to be engaging in sexual activity to derive entertainment from fur handcuffs. Besides, if law enforcement used them, maybe the kind treatment would set them on the road to reform! Or maybe we'd just see more repeat offenders... could go either way on that one.

By the way, that 53% of revenue is supposedly from government fees & contracts, which implies services rendered. So what exactly is it that PP is doing for the government? Just wondering...

(And congrats on your confirmation, Dawn!)


"But this one doesn`t bother me at all."

Call me unevolved, but the "Ooooh...nice tool!" uttered at the end comes off as pretty explicit. It's obviously meant as a double entendre to describe the guy's rod she's mounted on.

Yeah, that level of lewdness is just soooo age appropriate.


This is disturbing. I haven't seen MTV in a few years, but this is sewage scum compared to the worst things I noticed 'back in the day'...


John R., what age are we talking about here? Little kids don`t watch MTV -- they watches the Disney channel. Or else their parents aren`t doing their jobs?

The context of the ad would involve her putting a condom on his "tool," wouldn`t it? Not fellatio -- otherwise, how could she say, "Nice tool!" with her mouth full?


I'm wondering about the reference to MTV. This is basically a local spot. I'm wondering if it's really just running on local cable systems during local commercial breaks on the MTV channels. Yes, it appeals to MTV viewers, but the actual ad purchase was probably made with the cable reps, not MTV.

Yeah, that's technical -- but has anybody outside of the SF bay area seen this on the tube? I'd just be very surprised if this were a national spot on the full MTV network.

What I'm REALLY worried about is the reference to advertising on MySpace. There are already enough tales of predators lurking on MySpace without adding these lovely people to the mix.


Well, if "use a condom" is the most insidious message my kids will get, I think I can stop worrying.

Alas, it is not the most insidious BY FAR. Pardon me for not wasting my perfectly good angst on a corny safe-sex commercial.


Actually, "safe sex" includes using a condom for oral sex. You can get STD's through the mucous membranes of the mouth.

What kills me is that PP considers these kids paragons of "responsibility." If they were so responsible, they'd be doing their homework and helping mom load the dishwasher.


Far weirder sex-ed schemes than this get funding from Our Federal Government - self-anointed Messiah Rev. Sun Myung Moon runs his own sex-ed program for schoolkids, with public funding, in public schools, but no one seems to get up-in-arms over that. (It advocates abstinence. I guess that's why.)

Personally, I'd rather chance having kids see a 30sec ad on basic cable advocating safe sex than force them to sit through mandatory classes designed by a cultist who believes in genital mutilation for both sexes, but that's just me.


Aside from the obvious - the other thing the bothered me about the PP spot was the gender reversal. The woman (girl) going to work coming home to a waiting "partner" submissive in bed. And then she rips her clothes off and attacks. Is this the fruit of radical feminism? Is the message a combination of 'it is ok to "work" anyone if you have tool box' and 'Hey girls go get yours cause you be in charge.'?


Got a link for info on the Moon thing, Intemperate? I'd get worked up about that.

Alan, I agree about the disturbing use of the gender reversal.


Wait a minute! What's disturbing about a woman working and earning money, and what's disturbing about her taking an active role in sex with her partner? Do you think that women working is unusual, or that her initiating sex is? What the heck is the harm in either of these things?
By the by, I don't think it's "attacking", exactly, when it's welcomed by the gentleman in question. If it is, well, I "attack" my husband frequently. He certainly doesn't consider that unwomanly in me. And, in case you argue that our being married makes the difference, I did it regularly before we were married, too.
Also, I think you mean "sex reversal", or "sex-role reversal", or "gender-role reversal", and I still don't agree no matter what you call it.


I don't think those are fur handcuffs in the middle of the toolbox. I think those are bunny ears attached to a headband. Seems to me that any reference to rabbits in a Planned Parenthood commercial sends a mixed message.


So why aren't the uterofascists up in arms against this attempt to portray a girl – pardon me, sexually-aware woman - as nothing more than a pole polisher for some pimply-faced boy? Surely there's some industrial-scale degradation going on here that any self-respecting feminist should be appalled by.


Well, I consider myself a "radical" feminist, so I guess I`m qualified to answer your question, Joel:
it ain`t degradation if she LIKES it (though the late Andrea Dworkin would have disagreed).
And hey, perhaps PP`s next commercial will show the young man returning her favor.


I gotta say, though, the bunny ears in the box are a bit tacky.


"it ain`t degradation if she LIKES it"

Wow, does that ever sound like, "No really, your honor, she WANTED it."

Or how about, "But after the brainwashing, she said she liked this sort of thing."

"But since I didn't tell her about the other options, she agreed that this was the best thing to do."

IOW, L., that's the weakest argument I've read here lately.


Dawn:

Rather long story on Moon available
here, though it is not strictly about his abstinence group's activities, it includes links to stories about Moon's own belief system and to an online collection of examples/teaching points from "LoveSmarts", the program his group Free Teens USA uses. (You can view those directly here.

The program itself doesn't appear to make refernce to Moon's wackier sexual practices, but does make references to "lineage" and the importance of maintaining it, with activities to reinforce the concept.


(Also, the curriculum itself tends to get sort of creepy. Not strictly in a Moonie way. Just... creepy. Particularly the chapter called "What Is Your Price Tag?" I went through public school myself, and they never ran us through anything remotely that creepy.)


Kate B., did you just equate oral sex with rape? Plenty of women enjoy giving their male partners oral sex; there's nothing degrading about it unless it is demanded as a right rather than done out of mutual love or pleasure.


L.,
I'm saying that subjective enjoyment does not eliminate the fact that something may be degrading. That kind of logic can be used to justify rape or other violent and degrading acts.


Kate B.: Your statement seems to veer dangerously close to that oft-misinterpreted, half-urban-legend old saw that All Sex Is Rape, unless i'm misreading you.


Intemperate--

That's not what I'm attempting to say, and I apologize if I'm not expressing it clearly. All I'm trying to say is that the logic, "If she likes it, it's not degrading," is disturbing.
A) It could be used to justify harmful and violent behavior, as in the case of attempting to justify rape.
B) It seems to be a roadblock to honestly asking whether a behavior is healthy or harmful. "Well, she likes being popular, so I guess it's OK that she lets herself be used in order to remain popular." IOW, I think merely saying "she likes it" is avoiding the question--perhaps dangerously--of whether a particular behavior is in fact degrading.

Again, I apologize if my writing is unclear.


But in the context of this particular discussion and the advertisement under discussion, you are in fact implying that fellatio is degrading and that it involves the man using the woman to her detriment. I have in fact heard people express this opinion before and have never understood it, as you rarely hear people say the same thing about cunnilingus.


Once you get past the, "she likes it, so it must be OK" answer, you can honestly ask whether fellatio and cunnilingus are degrading, which was my point.


Well, Kate, that's what I'm asking you. If, say, someone insisted that male-superior sex was degrading, and another person replied that it was okay as long as the woman liked it, I doubt anyone would bother to complain about the reasoning unless they thought the practice of male-superior sex was, in fact, degrading.


Intemperate, thanks for the Moon links -- will check them out. I'm not a fan of his.


I'm still waiting to hear what is particularly offensive about a woman initiating sex. Would this ad be less offensive to you if it were a man working, who then came home and jumped on a woman who was waiting for him in bed?


Ledasmom:

The original comment was:
"So why aren't the uterofascists up in arms against this attempt to portray a girl – pardon me, sexually-aware woman - as nothing more than a pole polisher for some pimply-faced boy? Surely there's some industrial-scale degradation going on here that any self-respecting feminist should be appalled by."

Responding that being "nothing more than a pole polisher for a pimply-faced boy" is okay as long as the woman likes it is a weak argument. Do I think that being "nothing more than a pole-polisher" is degrading? Yes. In the larger scheme of things, do I think that "well, I like it" logic avoids looking at real issues? Yes. Am I going to debate whether or not fellatio and cunnilingus are degrading? No. Because, in the context of the statement that started this, that's not actually the point.


"I'm saying that subjective enjoyment does not eliminate the fact that something may be degrading. That kind of logic can be used to justify rape or other violent and degrading acts."

Um...if a woman LIKES it, it`s not rape -- it`s consensual sex. So who would be justifying what?

If two consenting adults want to do things to each other, I think "degrading" is going to be in the eyes of the beholder. You`ve made your own definition of the term pretty clear, but obviously, it`s a very subjective word.


If there is, as I think there is, a universal human dignity, then any act which violates that dignity is degrading, whether the participants consent to it or not. If it's possible that a particular sexual practice violates that dignity, then questions about its being degrading can legitimately be asked in a discussion of sexual morality. If we abandon the idea of universal human dignity, we are possibly opening the philosophical door to the acceptance of degradations such as rape and coercion. IOW, degradation despite consent is a legitimate concern.


I am not sure if I believe in a "universal human dignity," but again, you say that to abandon such a concept, "we are possibly opening the philosophical door to the acceptance of degradations such as rape and coercion." Again, I will say that neither rape nor coercion involve consent, which makes them as evil as they are.

If consenting adults mutually enjoy whatever they`re doing, I would have to file it under the header of "universal human dignity," as long as they`re not infringing on anyone else.

Sex is just like religion -- it`s best practiced among consenting adults who share the same values and beliefs.


C'mon, this is 2006, not 1956! Safe sex is better than UNSAFE sex. Which is why teens are getting knocked up in school. I rather my daughter watch a commercial about safe sex than learning from her "friends" that putting a ziplock baggie over his penis will protect them.


I'm ashamed of my chosen profession.

I'm a trained community health educator. Thank God I didn't shame my soul by being a school health educator.

Did you know that some educators are now calling themselves "sex educators?"

Internet Activism 101:
Find out if your school district partners with Advocates for Youth.

Advocates for Youth underwrites sex education curriculum. Lucky for us it's on the web.

www.advocatesforyouth.org/publications/lpe/ index.htm

www.siecus.orghttp://www.siecus.org/pubs/biblio/ bibs0010.html

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