The Dawn Patrol: Comments

Congrats Dawn! I love the CERC. You're really getting some great press. I'm happy for you and I'm looking forward to your book contributing to the formation of our daughters(now 10 and 7) in their teenage years.


I posted it at FreeRepublic after reading it at CERC. 1259 views so far.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focu...s/1776665/ posts

Even though I'm 20 years older and male, I found more than one common experience between your story and mine.


Thanks, Keith -- and thanks so much for Freeping the piece, Siunevada.


I'm a fan of Peter Kreeft. My DH uses one of his books as a classroom text. I enjoyed the Fox-Genovese article as well. There were many points with which I concurred. This was a far better summation of what I was trying to say in a previous thread:

"But, in this case, as in many others, everything depends upon the meaning we ascribe to the words Catholicism and feminism, and today the meaning of both is hotly contested. The core of feminism lies in the simple demand that women receive the same respect as men as independent, capable human beings. Yet the very simplicity of that demand raises as many questions as it answers. What does equal respect for women and men mean, and what does it require? If you listen to the more radical feminists, you would have to believe that feminism requires unlimited sexual freedom, complete individual autonomy, and absolute equality between women and men in all areas of life. For the radicals, feminism necessarily includes not merely personal dignity, freedom from sexual harassment and rape, and equal pay for equal work, but abortion on demand; sexual freedom for women, including the freedom to engage in extramarital affairs with men or women; lesbianism and bisexuality as coequal to heterosexuality, which is increasingly referred to as "heterosexism"; single-sex marriage; freedom from any special responsibility to children; single motherhood; no-fault divorce; equal participation in the military; and more. At a minimum, this agenda suggests that contemporary feminism, in its most radical and politically influential manifestations, has established itself as a resolutely, if not aggressively, secular program. In particular, in declaring uncompromising war against men's alleged domination over women and women's alleged enslavement to children, it has discredited, the ideals of service and sacrifice."

I really liked her statement here, too:

"Happiness and fulfillment flow from our relations with other people and with God, and they may as often derive from self-denial as from self-promotion."

But I agree with you.

My answer to her question would be, yes, it's possible to be Catholic and feminist. It's also possible to be Evangelical and feminist and many people are. However, it is not possible to be scripturally *orthodox* and feminist.

Wayne Grudem just put out a huge tome on this subject:

http://www.amazon.com/Evangelica...s/dp/ 157673840X


Wow, I loved the conclusion of the Kreeft article! Excellent! :)


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