Cheese-eating surrender monkeys.
Merde.
What answer is that, JR? Indeed, it's hard to understand the French from down here. They had better figure it out, or they will perish. I fear they won't.
See my blog, DC. LePen is on the horizon along with the upcoming elections. LePen may not win, but he's sure gonna rachet up the debate.
I can't find them now, but polls a couple years ago showed an extraordinary number of French (mostly Parisians), who had resigned themselves to cultural extinction by a Muslim migration.
France has a longer cultural relationship with the peoples in question than any other Euro country, in part due to their North African involvements, so maybe it makes sense.
Many Stinkies (not sorry) also seem to feel that their colonial behavior was so malevolent that they're getting what they deserve. Cultural arrogance exists side-by-side with perceptions of national guilt.
I will never understand this. It seems they haven't gotten over the carnage of WWI.
It is astonishing and sad. Almost like they have given up entirely. What a sad lot.
I wonder if there is a remnant in France who believes in freedom and loves the country. We will see. At any rate, some one better step forward soon.
And ... how about the MSM silence on this?
If appeasement is all chirac has, then he is lost. These rioters have nothing to offer him, as saddam did, there is no other alternative for the french. They will have to deal with it or be damned.
This is day 8 of their containment policy and we see how well it is working.
Maybe the US should offer to send 'inspectors' to paris to oversee the problem and tell them , oh its not so bad, they havem't burnt down the Eiffel tower yet.
Maybe now jack-off chirac will finally realize that you can not make deals with terrorists.
I agree, DC. The MSM silence is deafening. They (in the Reuters and AP stories this morning)mention the rioting, but fail to mention the islam connection.
They're more than happy to report (on ABC news radio today) that President Chavez is lambasting Bush at the conference of the Americas, but not a peep on islamic rioters in Paris.
Is this multiculturalism gone crazy or just another step down the road to PC'ness across the road?
Regardless, until the world stands up to the terrorists and their ilk, this is going to be the trend I'm afraid.
The way I see it in South America, the common people wouldn't think of coming out like that especially in that country. It is a communist ordered/inspired riot against the United States.
The people in these countries have never had the freedom to demonstrate the way they do here, this was staged.
The cops there run around with machine guns, not just had guns like here, and they ask questions after the smoke clears.
I would say this is communism run amok. They have gone beyond PC.
I can't wait until the circus begins when the MSM can no longer ignore the riots and it finds a way to blame the war in Iraq as the cause.
C-Fish,
Interesting development with the MSM. While more and more people realize what is going on (via the New Media), more people will continue to tune out the MSM. They continue to seal their fate.
Mark ... You got that right re: Venezuelan law enf.: Bang. "Freeze."
And Nick ... I hadn't thought of the angle. Maybe this is what Libby was lying about ... that he knew that riots around the world would start as a result of the Iraq War. Yeah.
We laugh, but there is probably a thread on this subject on the DU right now.
Been shopping around on this topic during the day. Steyn says this is the beginning of the Eurabian Civil War. Apparently there are riots and bombings going on in Denmark, too, which is completely ignored by the MSM.
In France, Chirac and Villepin want to make more concessions to the French Islamists, who now want their residential areas to be "millets", or off-limits cultural pockets where French culture and institutions are not welcome. Separatism, in other words.
The same is being said by rioters in Denmark, who claim that no one from Danish ambient culture is to be permitted in their residential areas either. Parallel cultures are to be tolerated, according to the immigrants. This has already been codified by the EU, in any case, and this is the result. Violence and Balkanization.
European multiculturalism is fun to watch.
Rhod
Now maybe they will have to look up when they look down their noses at us.
When they put the knife to Chirac's throat I wonder if he will ask, 'How would you like the posh section of Paris.'
But seriously, this appeasement crap is going to be there downfall, the longer they allow it to go on, the harder it will be to stop,, and surrender can't be too far off from that point.
Not to get too philospophical here ... but there comes a point when a person/culture is so debased that it can't summon the moral courage to fight.
I fear France may be close. As much as I like to pick at them, we are all worse off if Islamists continue to gain ground in Europe.
This is why the MSM has avoided this story like the plague, it proves Bush is right. You can't deal with terrorists.
Rhod
I just read this in Der Spiegel, about this agitator. Daniel Cohn-Bendit
Who is Daniel Cohn-Bendit, he is a greener(?) in france, and seems to be an antagonist, he is blaming the interior minister,(Villipin ?) and the police for over reacting to the situation in Paris. And of course siding with the terrorists, citing un-employment, living conditions, etc.
Get more news from Europe that here. But even in Der Spiegel, it was buried on the back pages.
Is this not supposed to be happening ?
Mark:
Daniel C-B has been around a long, long time. If I recall correctly, he was involved tangentially with The Red Brigades, and the anarchist and Maoist violence abroad in the 60's.
He's a nasty piece of work, and makes the Weathermen here seem like real Weathermen.
I agree with DC, that the tangle of events in France may be irremediable; however much it's due to
the ghastly arrogance, bombastic self-promotion and denial that led to it (and it took years, years, years), the collapse of a putatively Western European culture is not a good thing.
When ten percent of your population is maladaptive by varying degrees, and your institutions are militantly relativist and empty, you have the nature-abhoring vaccuum that will be filled by whatever social elements wish to fill them. In this case, the proud and determined elements are Islamists or their sympathizers.
France has been basking in this warm trough of cowardice for two generations, The Cold War concealed the degree to which the country was giving itself away to the angriest bidder. The Algerian Crisis should have told them somthing about themselves.
Just an observation: Vietnam was the last battle of World War II, and France has never been the same since World War I, when France courageously stood against the assembled powers of degenerate militarism and monarchy, and gave away an entire generation to the horrors of The Trenches. Maybe what we see today is their reluctance to bleed anymore. World War I was not that long ago.
The crux of the problem or at least part of it is the mentality of the current Muslim generation,
Sakrozy called them , the rioters, 'scum' (seems appropriate) and the rioters; one of them responded, “We’re not scum. We’re human beings, but we’re neglected.”
This I think is the problem with socialism, the whole damn population is kept by the socialist government and they can't make a move with out the government wet nursing them. When they don't like the way things are being done, they riot, have a tantrum, and the government treats them like children. Because they have no way of taking care of themselves because they have sold their sole for a welfare state.
This is the same direction the dems want to take this country, and we are close to the point where the government is calling all the shots.
Just look at the debacle in New Orleans, Those people couldn't wipe their asses without the government supplying the paper and special instructions. This dependence on government is a sickness, The whole state of Lousiana is now going to get 250 billion dollars to re-build a city that, should NOT be re-built, will in the future flood again, most likely, and the people expect it.
This situation in france should be considered a textbook example of why socialism should be banned, it doesn't work. Of course neither do the people
I agree, Mark.
The moral paradox is that socialism demands secular generosity, sacrifice and civic committment from everyone, with the result that everyone becomes more selfish, stingy, greedy, dishonest and anti-social.
If you had to invent a better system for turning everyone into grasping beasts intent upon "getting theirs" " at everyone else's expense, you couldn't do it.
Socialism is a delivery system for personal and collective corruption, and it's the open road to the kind of cynical, unequal and unjust materialism that The Left attributes to capitalism.
Worst of all, it cultivates and ignores the inevitable creation of restless and immobile underclasses who have meals on their tables but poverty in every other area of their lives.
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