DT:
The "war on terror" is actually the "war on us".
BZ. Got it in one. Succinct analysis and a very good 'boiling down' of todays' reality.
It occurs to me that many Canadians suffer from an antiquated definition of "war". "War" is no longer simply a matter of conflict between nations with geographically defined borders. In this modern age, we have reached the point where it is a planetary clash of cultures. The last of the ancient primitive tribal mind-sets violently, and inexorably, meeting the 20th century. (let alone the 21st!)
Hence the confusion evident when seeing Canadian Muslims intent on building bombs to kill other Canadians. We, in our old-fashioned way, see geographical borders. They do not. They never did. (And we struggle to understand...)
In the final analysis, we will spread classic liberal democracy, wiping out primitive Islam, or Islamofascism will spread and wipe us out, setting back human development by millenia.
We've come a long way in the last few thousand years. Let's not lose it now.
There is no greater cause to fight for.
Or will our complacency, bred by a generation of nanny-state foolishness, but our undoing?
I hope not. But it seems our chances of long-term victory are a toss of the coin.
I hope I am being unduly pessimistic...
Thoughts?
Awesome post! In a literary sense, it is amazing, but also the content. You are right on. I think this should be published in every newspaper in Canada.
You're stating what most people don't even allow themselves to think.
Excellent DT. Tribalism could function as long as there was a safe distance between the tribes. With population explosions and a globally connected industrial economy tribalism fails … unless .. Trudeaupian social engineers prop it up.
Or unless the tribal chiefs discover black gold, as they did in the ME. Or black mail in Canada.
In Canada the black mail was a Liberal piggy bank filled with patronage appointments and funding for those that served the Natural Governing Party. The MSM has been the propaganda machine that used multi-culti as a device to keep victims isolated and in need of the blackmail/patronage. Political correctness was used by academia and the MSM to label any dissent of the social engineering as being “un-Canadian”. This process worked for half a century.
The game is over. Thanks to new technology that allows Blogs to circumvent the PPG and the MSM Liberal propaganda machine. Blogs are a chemo protocol used to weaken the spread of the MSM. The Blog protocols are working. Soon we can start the same protocol on academia, which loathes diversity of thought.
Yesterday saw the equivalent of the Canada’s version of the Danish cartoons, a wake-up call for which we must thank our security forces. This battle to save our way of life from Trudeaupia is just beginning. But the will to win will carry the day and now that I know there is a DT and mad Mike and Joanne willing to do battle too, I know we can win.
nomdenet - Great comment.
I linked to this article on my blog, BTW. The whole thing was picked up by Infozone.
Thanks Joanne! Your link and comments are very appreciated.
My biggest motivation at this point in my life is saving my children from what Europe is about to experience. My son (Junker), is in the Armed Forces, and it kills me to think that some day he or those like him will be called upon to pull Europe's ass out of the fire once again.
Canada and the United States have a very sizable population of Socialist Utopians who dominate media and acedamia. It is only the advent of the New Media that has begun to change the balance and to offer some alternative modes of thought.
Every single day that I go to blogs and read comments and posts I'm struck with the large number of very intelligent, compassionate, and impassioned individuals who are part of the libertarian/conservative blogging community. If I were a Utopian journalist, I'd dread the blogs.
By the way, let's all begin refraiming the "War on Terror". It is NOT a war on terror, it is our defense against the "War on Us!" Liberal Democracies and their citisens are the victims.
Excellent, DT.
Just read over at Neale Newsw, CSIS and the RCMP have divulged that, among the targets of the 17 terrorists apprehended in Toronto yesterday, were the Parliament Buildings, and CSIS headquarters.
I especially agree with your comment about our young soldiers being forced to "pull Europe's ass out of the fire, once again". Twice was enough.
I have 2 cousins and 1 nephew in the Forces, currently, 2 in Afghanistan. I brace myself, emotionally, every time the Afghan mission comes on the news. You probably do the same.
Thanks for the good work.
Man, I don't know who you are who wrote this but this is exactly what we need to be heard amongst the masses of Europe and North America before it is to late....Islam are old foe is never never going to quit trying to enslave or convert or kill us....it has been their mo for 1400 years and followers of this cult do not mind lying, looting, murdering or whatever it takes to get their prize.....
We all had better wake up in a hurry...this is goint to get really ugly and quickly...
Canada adverted one disaster yesterday.....but it is only a matter of time.....whereever their are large groupings of muslims, their tragically will be terrorism....such is Islam!
Excellent analysis, DT.
The basic problem is Islam, which is not a religion but a sociopolitical mode of life with many rules of social and political behaviour - and that mode is frozen in time. It's frozen in a tribalism of the 10th century.
Islamofascism, of which Wahhabism is an expression, is a result of the tension between the dictates of Islam, which refuses to evolve and modernize - and modern reality. Modern reality is industrialism, large populations, diversity, innovation, scientific and technological advances - all of which are unable to exist within Islamism.
The tension between a religion, Islam, which has refused to modernize and has retreated to fascism and the requirements of modern reality have resulted in terrorism. The Muslim people have to 'wake up' and take control of their religion before their religion destroys the world.
You fucks are the terrorists.
We can no longer name the elephant in the room for fear of being called “bigots”.
Ladies and gentlemen, I give you exhibit A: Jerk
Jerk, since you have such a wonderful grasp of the english laguage let me reply in a similar manner.
A stupid, troll, toilet-licking, shit bug like yourself wouldn't recognize a terrorist if one walked up and kicked you in your tiny, shiveled, rasberry seed sized balls and then had his nine year old daughter kick the living fucking hell out of your weasely little ass.
John: Normally I don't allow such "shameful" :) spite on my site... but your one liner long line is just too funny. You must have worked on the rigs or been in the marines.
Now... no more !
DT, very well-written. It's so true that society is doomed when they fail to recognize who represents threats to them. I would not be so concerned if non-radical Islam would step up, condemn, and turn in radical Islamic followers but that does not seem to be occurring so I'm left with a feeling of dread - much like the Blackfoot men might have felt in seeing the Cree approach. Great post.
The important thing to remember is that the events of Saturday morning demonstrate the police in Canada have the resources we need to fight terrorism, and are doing just fine.
That's not putting fingers in my ears and pretending there isn't a problem, but it's me recognizing the reality which is you're more likely to die of smoking or at the hands of a biker gang in Canada than in a terrorist attack.
A "humid chill," what the heck are you on about?
Look, you're a bigot. You justify it by comparing modern Canada to a tribal, nomadic civilisation? The fact is, people of European ancestry living in Canada are hundreds of times more likely to be killed by another person of European ancestry, than a fundamentalist Muslim. Should I run back to my camp every time I see a drunk Scottish-Canadian walking down the street?
What makes your post so pathetic is that you honestly compare modern Canada to a bygone time of following herds of buffalo. You actually suggest that we should behave as hunter/gatherers. Maybe we should send out scouts to warn us of Middle-Easterners who were shopping at the supermarket.
You are a bigot and a racist, and that you use your children to justify it is very sad.
Great post, DT. Glad to see you touched in ideology, something few blogs and even fewer media outlets have expanded upon.
At the heart of the matter is Islamic ideology, which is agnostic of class and nationality. The propensity to turn to terrorism has nothing to do with one's socioeconomic status, one's country of residence or even one's country of origin. Islam presents to its followers a sociopolitical blueprint for life and governance and demands that adherents wage war to bring this plan to bear in whatever age and place they live.
Robert Spencer often quotes an Islamic scholar (don't have his name at hand), "There are moderate Muslims, but there is no moderate Islam."
The West needs to get a grasp on that concept, and read every last word on JihadWatch.org.
Wish I had time to blog, but right now work and fam are keeping me busy 16 hrs per day.
Keep up the great work.
DT - "It is NOT a war on terror, it is our defense against the "War on Us!" Liberal Democracies and their citisens are the victims."
Exactly. The enemy is anyone who wishes to annihilate our demcracy and way of living by violence and terror. While it is unfair and erroneous to suggest that all Muslims are terrorists, it is important to support our authorities to have the power to ferret out the militant extremists from the logical and proven spawning grounds. But an ideology is difficult if not impossible to change. All we can do is try to protect our own country from being imploded.
When one reads that individual one-off violence in society by Scots or Europeans is compared to violence planned by a global movement such as Islamofascism one wonders how we are going to win this long battle. A drunken Scot might be dangerous or might be harmless we have no way of predicting. But since 9/11 our security forces are identifying, thank goodness with success, which are the members of a global death cult movement that wish to harm us.
The fact that this global movement is funded by oil out of the ME makes it completely different than regular biker or gang crime that is simply driven for monetary gain. Islamofascism is a death cult, it is not about monetary gain, it is political and it is about world dominance. As Joanne says “The enemy is anyone who wishes to annihilate our democracy and way of living by violence and terror.”
That otherwise sane people can’t see the difference between a biker gang and Islamofascism is a warning signal to all of us that we also have battle to do on our home front to educate the inertia of people that may only get informed by the MSM who want us to fail.
In reply to Joanne - yes, ideology is difficult to change and above all, religious ideologies are difficult to change, because they are rooted in faith rather than fact.
But, other religions have evolved and matured. It took Christianity several bloody centuries in Europe, from the 12th through the 15th, 16 centuries, but, it evolved. It moved from a group-focused, top-down authoritarian religion, to one that enabled reason, individualism and questions.
Islam has to do the same. Its current ideology is tribal, which means that it operates on faith, it rejects questions, analysis, reason, individualism. It sets up a sociopolitical mode based on kin-related alliances. And, it insists on 'jihad', or conquering all other religions, all other peoples.
The change has to come from within the Islamic community. They have to accept that their religion is not 'all about peace' but is specifically focused on domination and violence. And, they have to accept that the world is global and we refuse to give up democracy, individualism and freedom, for their slavery.
Excellent, excellent post.
As we all know, the end of all great civilizations starts with the rot from within.
trutheau's pathetic bit of name calling demonstrates that rot...all too well.
I am right wing and I believe we should be attacking the terrorists and any other group that wishes to harm us.
What scares me is the fact that a lot of the right, my group, are acting exactly how the wing nuts on the left expect them to and the wing nuts on the left are preaching cowardice. There is no need to attack the Muslim that lives down the street from you, he as over 90% of the other Muslims want an enjoyable, peaceful life just as you and I hold high.
The Koran does not preach about "jihad" and attack all those that do not hold Islamic beliefs. It teaches the very same things that our bible teaches. It has been lost to the minority of Muslims not unlike that of the Christians from the 3rd century to the 18th century.
If we keep on track and hunt those that hunt us, we will win. If we rant and rave in racial and religious profiling we will all lose. If we run from the fight of those that wish to harm us as the left wants and we will lose.
The way I see it, posts like these and of those on the left of the political spectrum, the terrorists are getting exactly what they want. What they do not want to see is a united list of countries no matter the religion and no matte the race. This is how you divide tribalism; you beat it by showing you will hold true to your beliefs and laws and standing strong as one.
Rightmind: I think you need to brush up on your Quaran. The arguement can easily and theologically be made that "peaceful" Muslims are not serious Muslims, but a watered down version. Even Muslims themselves sponser websites to this end.
I don't necessarily believe this, but the sheer magnitude (likely in the hundreds of millions) of Muslims worldwide who believe in Jihad and who practice chauvanistic and exclusive Islam should concern anyone. I support your notion, but I think its based on wishful thinking.
Name me one Muslim state which is not radicalizing at this time other than Afghanistan. Name me one Muslim state which has not over time completely marginalized, pushed out, or exterminated other religious groups. Name me one Muzlim state that would at this point in time tolerate Liberal Democracy (Iraq and Afghanistan included). The big picture, does not match your wishes.
Canada has 750,000 Muslims, some of whom are now starting to concentrate in enclaves. The historic practice for the past 1400 years has been that Muslims do not as a rule mix with other ethno-religious groups.
Again, I challenge you to point out to me and my readers one instance of a signifant Muslim minority integrating with its hoste nation.
Now, I believe that this can change, especially in Canada, as I'll write about on Tuesday. But for now all historic evidence is sadly against that which you wish.
The United Arab Emirates for one.
I said this as it is the most obvious amd should garner no arguements. The others, it is not the people that want "jihad", it is the people with power that want to keep the average citizen oppressed.
The way a lot of the right are going in this, as well as other threads in blogdom, we are looking no better then the left wing nuts.
I found this, show me where it states "jihad on all those that do not pray to Allah".
Sorry forgot to post the URL:
http://etext.virginia.edu/toc/mo...ic/
HolKora.html
RightMind: The United Arab Emirates are not a Liberal Democracy... not anywhere close; and like all "peaceful " Muslim states totalitarian governance keeps the wolves away... Egypt is a typical example. And even in these, massive human rights violations take place, like honor killing.
I need to ask you, have you read the entire Quaran... I have not. I've read many quotations and passages and chapters quoted by both extremists and moderates who point to its violent chauvanistic nature... the former for praise the latter as a warning.
Islam, as well is not just the Quaran, but a history that most Muslims relate to, including the separation of Sunni from Shia. They don't follow the Quaran as the only word of god, for instance, like Christians do the bible. They have a rich and complex historic reference that they use constantly to justify this or that including famous Mullahs and Immam's teaching's etc., whose teaching are taken as the rules to live by.
In a relevant vein, take the Old Testament of the bible. Anyone following its dictates to the Children of Israel literally, could be lled to violence and chauvanistic behavior as are many Muslims. But, the New Testiment countered most of the social order and laws as set out by the Old Testiment, and this is what Christianity is based on. There is no such parallel in Islam... there is the Quaran, which is as violent in its dictates as the Old Testiment, if not more, and then there is the historic record which was enriched even more by holy leaders and their dictates. This entire history is just about as sacred to Muslims as the Quaran, and for some like the Shia, even more so.
In the end, Islam, in my opinion must be judged by its fruit. Who cares if 90% of the Quaran may be peaceful guidance to social structures... how is it interpretted and lived out by the world's 1.75 million Muslims?
Now, don't get me wrong, I don't blame the ordinary Muslim man and woman. But, as Islam becomes more and more radicalized, as is now the trend, the "peaceful" majority become more and more irrelevant.
I ask you, how relevant was the average German, Italian, Japanese, Romanian, and Austrian during WW2. You can't tell me that they were all violent nazis and fascists... yet, they were the instuments of the world's greatest catastrophe to date because the radical among them had the control, and the peaceful majority just went along... like peaceful people tend to do.
You did not ask for a liberal democracy did you? You asked for a state that was not radical. You got one! Before knocking down UAE you should read about it in an article without prejudice.
I have not read the Koran yet, I do like reading about different religions having read in depth about buddhism, christianity, Sikhism and Hinduism. All have the same teachings and part way through the Koran it appears to be much the same.
You seem to be stating over and over again how great and coherent christianity is? Have you looked at the history, even recent history, of christianity? Remember the inquisition? The Crusades? Remember Ireland? The latter part of the Roman Empire? The Catholic church at its many, many radical moves throughout history?
Christianity is not without its own radicals. Does this mean that you and I are also like them and so we should also be spat at and pissed on or shot? Of course not, because we were not the leaders of the atrocities that were committed just as most Muslims are not at fault for the few radicals in their own religion.
There are a lot more than 1.75 Muslims in North America alone. I would put the world figure at somewhere near 1.5 billion? Now do you think they are all trying to blow us up? Don't you think that 1.5 billion people would be doing a much better job of it than what we currently see?
Again, hate the radicals and not the religion or its people. Hunt down the radicals and not anyone that has a beard and calls himself Mohammed. They have a religious doctrine that is not any more violent then our own. They have a history that is not any more violent than our own.
Lastly, if you preach hatred and promote violence against anyone that follows Islam how are you any better than the radicals that promote hatred of Christians?
If you want to read about a truly violent religion look at Sikhism, but then again they aren't trying to blow us up.
Right Mind: As I am not a Christian, I have no intention of making Christianity sound rosie. I know full well it's violent past, and have studied in depth its origans and know very well about its Vickers, it's crusades, it's wars, its victims, and violence.
UAE, like most Muslim states that appear peaceful on the surface, is a humanrights violater, and Chauvanistic state. I don't know what would lead you to think otherwise. But let's say its a wonderful place... that's one. ONE!
I thought you'd mention Indonesia, which is on my list as the least radicalized and most peaceful... they've even managed a democracy of sorts for a short while. Or Turkey, which is sadly radicalizing as is Indonesia. But, they at least don't depend on tolitarian rule to control the radicals. And, former Turkish Christians would ravage me for suggesting Turkey is even remotely tolerant.
Lastly, if you preach hatred and promote violence against anyone that follows Islam how are you any better than the radicals that promote hatred of Christians?
Who are you talking about? Hatred... Violence????????
You asked for one, I only gave you one. Give me a link to a valid source that states that UAE commits all of these human rights violations. Remember the word valid.
"Who are you talking about? Hatred... Violence????????"
Look closely at the posts above ours. Some of them are just as sad as the lefts cowardice.
Right Mind: Please be specific in your accusation. I see concern, worry, and some pretty clear-headed thinking. And some of it, by the way, very accurate from a sociological and anthropological point of view.
UAE: http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/h.../2003/
27940.htm
A pretty good place, by ME standards. But, not a democracy.
I see some pretty clear headed thinking as well. It is too bad that the others chimed in. Granted some may have gotten mixed up in their thoughts and did not really mean what they posted, but I doubt it.
Here is a list of comments made on this thread that are bordering on fanatical with my comments below them:
Albertadude wrote:
"Islam are old foe is never never going to quit trying to enslave or convert or kill us....it has been their mo for 1400 years and followers of this cult do not mind lying, looting, murdering or whatever it takes to get their prize....."
"Canada adverted one disaster yesterday.....but it is only a matter of time.....whereever their are large groupings of muslims, their tragically will be terrorism....such is Islam!"
Islam is our old foe? I thought our (European) old foe was the Ottoman Empire and I thought the christian nations rescued the ME countries from them in the early part of the last century. Painting everyone under the same brush as their leader is a little crazy don't you think? I mean would you like to be identified with Chretien, Martin or even worse Trudeau? Lumping these people into the same pile is very dangerous as it deters us from the real crminals and makes more enemies.
ET wrote:
"The basic problem is Islam, which is not a religion but a sociopolitical mode of life with many rules of social and political behaviour - and that mode is frozen in time. It's frozen in a tribalism of the 10th century.
Islamofascism, of which Wahhabism is an expression, is a result of the tension between the dictates of Islam, which refuses to evolve and modernize - and modern reality. Modern reality is industrialism, large populations, diversity, innovation, scientific and technological advances - all of which are unable to exist within Islamism.
The tension between a religion, Islam, which has refused to modernize and has retreated to fascism and the requirements of modern reality have resulted in terrorism. The Muslim people have to 'wake up' and take control of their religion before their religion destroys the world."
Islam is not a Religion? What is it then? It has Moses, Jesus, Joseph, David, Adam and Eve and preaches pretty much the same things as the Christian bible. As with our bible, a lot is left up to interpretation and is what beget a lot of Christian extremists over the last 2000 years. Maybe Christianity, Hinduism, Sikhism etc.... are also not religions but are sociopolitical modes? Has there ever been a more political entity in religion than the Vatican? I would think and have spoken to many Iraqi's, Afghanies, Iranians etc... that don't want to blow us up. Again you lump all of them together based on a few leaders, can we lump you in with Martin?
Jerk wrote:
"You fucks are the terrorists."
Typical left wing coward. I am guesing he is of the age that would have him sent to Afghanistan if our army was not a volunteer one.
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Sorry,
I didn't know there was a limit to the amount you were permitted to submit. You should get the gist from the above.
Generalizations yes, hate and fomenting to violence against Muslims.. NO.
And, what in the world did ET say that even remotely falls into something considered hateful.
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