The pack of hustlers that Green is running with DO want to ban embryonic stem cell research and would push to do so if he was elected Governor. At most UW home football games over the past few seasons, these nuts pass out a brochure from some phony front group called "UW Alumni for Life." The brochure, titled "Praise to Thee Our Alma Mater?" makes the case for banning such research altogether in the state.
If you think that this isn't the ultimate goal of Pro-Life Wisconsin and Wisconsin Right to Life, you are deceiving yourself. Just ask the nuts who run these two groups.
Wow, I haven't stopped by in a week. With all this ranting about stem cells, I'd better let Jessica McBride know that someone stole her one trick pony.
We get that you think Doyle's just masquerading on stem cells, Dennis. That's fine. He's a politician. Mark Green is no better. Anyone think Mark Green is really serious about controlling government spending? Look at his record in Congress. That vote in favor of the senior drug giveaway says all anyone needs to know about that.
Wally's exactly right about PLW. They're fruitier than a bag of Starburst. PLW would like to ban cloning, right after they ban birth control and premarital sex.
Fact is, this is great politics on Doyle's part. Green's in a terrible (read: losing) position in the stem cell debate and Doyle knows this is a great wedge issue with which to beat Green senseless. Who can blame Doyle for using it? It plays on voters' emotions, it's not terribly hard for the average voter to understand, and it makes Mark Green look like an extremist.
Oh yeah, one more thing. I'm guessing that even if the Doyle campaign can't spell her name, Jody Montgomery probably doesn't think her daughter is being exploited. And shouldn't it be her judgment that matters? After all, aren't Republicans all for getting government out of the medical decisions of families and their children?
But it's nice of you to imply that she's a stupid parent who doesn't understand a thing about the issue her daughter deals with every day and what might hold out some hope of promise for her kid.
I suppose if Abraham Lincoln cut an ad of Frederick Douglass talking about how slavery is bad for African-Americans you'd have accused Lincoln of exploiting black people to prey on people's emotions, too.
But hey, I'm sure you're on Mary Matuska's good side with all this anti-stem cell stuff. And that's what really matters, right?
Respectfully,
RS
"But it's nice of you to imply that she's a stupid parent who doesn't understand a thing about the issue her daughter deals with every day and what might hold out some hope of promise for her kid."
He is not implying that she is a stupid parent - he is implying that she is a political opportunist misrepresenting the facts in a negative political ad. She is using her daughter to throw mud.
And if this is such a good issue for Doyle, why does he need to put out a shameless, incorrect ad? Wouldn't he be better served by at least getting it close to correct?
Then there is this:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/
wp...6072400329.html
Seems the EU doesn't like Doyle's position...
So any politics, shameless and misleading as Doyle may be, is good politics? It's ok, "Supervisor" to take advantage of a child for political gain by promising way beyond the scope of the research's realistic possibilities? I personally do not oppose the research yet find this and Doyle's tactics sickening.
Dennis, you hit this one out of the park.
No one knows if the research will develop any cures or not. That's why research should proceed full speed ahead on adult stem cells, cord stem cells, AND embryonic stem cells. Only time will tell what will work. If is only fair to acknowledge, however, that the adult stem cell researchers have about a 30 year head start.
It is also only fair to note that the wingnuts unfairly criticize embryonic stem cell research as of no potential value and that no "cures" have been produced to date.
Science magazine has done a tremendous review of the lack of evidence behind the claim that perhaps 60-70 "cures" or treatments have already been produced by adult stem cell research. Yes, there have been some progress, but the accomplishments to date have been vastly overstated.
Also fair to note that the Chicago Tribune last week asked a broad spectrum of research scientists which version -- adult or embryonic -- has the most potential. The bottom line: embryonic stem cell research holds the most promise.
I respect the right of embryonic stem cell opponents to hold their views, but they earn no respect for their inconsistencies and half-truths.
Recess Supervisor,
Pretty weak analysis from you, which is par for the course. Gee, you are extremely good at parroting the liberal mantra on stem cells: if you even question embryonic stem cell research, you must be one of those nutjobs who respects human life. Question Doyle on stem cells, and you must be in Mary Matuska's back pocket. What a brilliant and thoughtful analysis.
It is clear that you fancy yourself to be an insightful and witty pundit, but you don't appear capable of an interesting or original thought. You simply rehash one-dimensional arguments advanced by others.
Go back to the playground, junior.
"Gee, you are extremely good at parroting the liberal mantra on stem cells: if you even question embryonic stem cell research, you must be one of those nutjobs who respects human life. Question Doyle on stem cells, and you must be in Mary Matuska's back pocket. What a brilliant and thoughtful analysis."
How about the point that Mary Matuska and her ilk pay no attention to the thousands of little frozen people in the IVF cinics but go apecrap over the thought that a couple of discarded fertilized eggs wound up in a UW lab instead of a medical waste incinerator?
If "Nutty Mary" had an ounce of consistency in her body she and the storm troopers would be wailing outside every IFV clinic in the state.
But, no -- she'd rather sit home.
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