The Sci Fi Catholic Yak Module
ROTFLOL! This is a great RAA, D.G.D. UR awesome, LFD!!!!
TTYL,
STD
You know, Snuffles, I never realized before that your initials are STD. Somehow, that seems appropriate.
LFD...wait a minute, did you just call me Late For Dinner????
Well speaking of STD, it also stands for Doctor of Sacred Theology (S.T.D. Sacrae Theologiae Doctor) one of the more unfortunate acronyms that follows some priests (and some layman) name.
What do you think of St. Ignatius's A.M.D.G.?
By the way I don't think Fr. is an acronym, but an abbreviation.
As retired military I lived and breathed acronyms so I guess I am immune to them. Though I remember one of the funniest things I ever read involved a military acronym.
The forward to the Naval Aviation Maintenance Program instruction manual one year spoke about the need for easily understood English to be used in the instruction and then went on to describe the use of Just Plain English (JPE), for me this was hillarious.
ha. I love Snuffles. He had the same idea that I had, to now torture you with acronyms. LOL.
hmm.. I can call you anything besides LFD? This may take some time. WEG.
The best I can come up with now, is that Deej is BE, IMO.
SSPX stands for the Society of Saint Pius X.
(and that's Pius the tenth, not some super-ultra form of Saint Pius)
And they are not in schism. That has been confirmed by cardinal Castrillon Hoyos.
And they are not in schism. That has been confirmed by cardinal Castrillon Hoyos.
They're not? Are you sure? Is this a recent development I'm unaware of?
Yeah, Jeff, you're right. Fr. is definitely not an acronym. I sort of digressed there.
A super ultra form of St. Pius would be way cool. Maybe he could pilot a mech.
New! From the comic books that brought you Mutant Whatever and Something Else You Never Thought You'd See In Print! They're incredible! Introducing:
St.-Pius-the-X-men!
With NEW mutant super powers: Conjugation! (A really cool martial arts thing, done in cassocks); Discernment of Spirits! (like Superman's x-ray vision, only more useful in social situations); Speaking in Tongues (well, Latin, anyway); Laying on of Tentacles (from a thread a few weeks ago - can't take credit for this one); and the real show-stopper, Penitenti' Agite!!!! (No bad guy can stand up to that one!)
St. Damasus was also the pope who got St. Jerome started on his big translation project, so he could be thought of as the patron saint of popular/vulgar literature? Like science fiction? Or is that too close to blasphemy to be humorous?
After a little checking, Bob, I found this as well as a few more dubious documents.
I miss the good old days when schism was schism. I'm not comfortable at all with this more-or-less full communion stuff, though I recognize that the situation here is complicated. Looks like over-interpretation of St. Augustine to me.
DGD (Damasus? Cool. He was a poet, too, as well as a guy with dirt and tiny bits of relics under his fingernails.), you may smite me with my own mace of office for this one, but I prefer "BMV" (traditional, tried-and-true Latin word order) instead of "BVM" (new-fangled English word order which no one understands)...
St. Damasus was also the pope who got St. Jerome started on his big translation project, so he could be thought of as the patron saint of popular/vulgar literature?
Ooh, I knew there was a reason St. Damasus wanted to be my patron saint. I couldn't find a patron of speculative fiction, but now I know I made the right choice.
Close to blasphemy? Doesn't look blasphemous to me. Having scripture (and I'll go out on a limb and add the Mass) in the vulgar or common tongue is quite important. Getting St. Jerome started on that appears to me a worthwhile cause. As for the other vulgar literature to which you refer, as long as it's not "vulgar" in the other sense of the term, I consider it also worthy.
Incidentally, since St. Philomena was discovered by archaeologists and St. Damasus is patron of archaeologists, I tend to view them as a sort of "tag team," if you will, and often address them together.
I prefer "BMV" (traditional, tried-and-true Latin word order) instead of "BVM" (new-fangled English word order which no one understands)...
No, no. Keep it up. This thread is enabling me to gleen all kinds of Catholic trivia I hadn't picked up before. (I am still new, you'll remember.)
Deej, I think I should get to call you Late For Dinner. In particular, you're almost always late getting my dinner! I'd get it myself, but I'm a goldfish so I can't!
In particular, you're almost always late getting my dinner!
Ah, honey, are you still mad about that? Look, I had a lot of work at the office and I couldn't leave on time...I'll make it up to you next week, I promise.
and yet, my comment recieves no love.
That's because I can't understand what you wrote because I don't know those acronyms!
And while I'm at it, is Penitenti' Agite anything like Ghost Rider's Penance Stare?
Deej--
The abbreviations after some religious names are the names of their religious order.
As a Secular Carmelite the initials after my name are O.C.D.S.
I did have a list of some of the more common ones..I
'll try and find it. If one is real pressing you can Google it.
If you REALLY want to get spun up on abbreviations...try figuring out the text-messaging language teenagers use..
Sara
DGD scripsit: And while I'm at it, is Penitenti' Agite anything like Ghost Rider's Penance Stare?
Ego scribo: Was Ghost Rider's Penance Stare the insolent look he gave from the saddle of his hog, when his head burst into flame and it shot out from his eyes and incinerated the bad guys? Yeah, it's something like that.
The historical reference is to some of the medieval groups commonly called Cathars, who objected to (a) wealth, and (b) bishops, and especially (c), wealthy bishops, mostly by storming the bishop's palace, burning it and all its sacramental and legal records on a big pyre, and killing everyone while exhorting them to "penitentia agite" ("do penance" - for being wealthy, and possibly orthodox, but at least for not being a Cathar).
The literary reference is to Umberto Eco's "The Name of the Rose", which while technically fiction is written by a scholar and includes a large number of non-fictional characters, events, places, and ideas. The movie version is half-decent, except for the very end which is completely different from the book (and except for the entirely gratitous nudity and forbidden nookie); but Christian Slater is perfectly cast in the role of the clueless novice; Sean Connery gives his usual verve to the protagonist; and F. Murray Abraham is awesome in the role of Bernardo Gui.
I was picturing something like spiritual napalm...
After a little checking, Bob, I found this as well as a few more dubious documents.
To clarify:
By which I mean, I found other documents that appeared dubious, whereas the one I linked did not appear dubious.
well, I think what I said fell into the category of teenage text message acronyms that Sara mentioned.
But in sum, I laughed out loud (LOL), had a wicked evil grin (WEG) and called you beyond Einstein (BE) in my opinion (IMO).
You should really read up on your acronyms. Though I think it is very funny that you hate them so much.
Deej honey--You should know by know that hell hath no fury like a woman scorned..Lucky will remind you for the rest of your mortal life--and I'm sure WELL into Purgatory--that you were late with her dinner. My puddy tats, on the other hand, make sure that I'm up at 5 am to get their breakfast..I'm not very pretty that early in the morning...and DEFINITELY don't talk to me until I've had my second cup of coffee..
Sara
All I can say is, I thought they were the Secret Society for Preventing eXplosions...
Or Sam Spade's Proxy eXpress...
Or the Smarmy Sellers of Peculiar X-ray-machines...
Histor
Sacred Sodality of Pirate Cartographers (hey, X marks the spot)?
Ah, thank you for making me laugh. Just for that, I'll resist the use of acronyms in this comment. And, here is something on the Society of St. Pius X that you might also find helpful.
There's an interesting site for traditionalists with a little guide to the various movements at fisheaters.com. They have a great list of the abreviations for religious orders, and a terrific collection of paintings of St. Mary nursing the infant Jesus. Most of the stuff there looks perfectly kosher for Catholics in full Communion--I love the selection of pre-Hass&Haugen hymns.
Next time you're tempted to use an acronym, just ask yourself: WWJD?
Ah, thank you for making me laugh. Just for that, I'll resist the use of acronyms in this comment. And, here is something on the Society of St. Pius X that you might also find helpful.
That website says that the SSPX was "automatically excommunicated for commiting a schismatic act". But, a scan of the Code of Canon Law (or at least find some smart person who can recite it off the top of their heads and then say you read it) will show that automatic excommunications cannot occur when the excomunicee (is that a word?) thinks he is doing it for good and that those intentions do not break with any of the church's teaching.
So in a nutshell, I believe that Archbishop Lefebvre and his bishops are not excommunicated, making it prefectly fine to attend their masses (which happen to be pre-Vat II and in latin).
Bob,
But, even given the best will in the world on the part of Abp LeFebvre, ordaining anyone to the episcopate without a mandate, and actually in defiance of an explicit papal order to the contrary, cannot, unfortunately, be construed as "not breaking with any of the Church's teaching." Such an act does indeed sunder the communion between the bishop who ordains, and the universal Church in unity with the See of Peter. This rupture is not irrevocable, but it is certainly real.
But, even given the best will in the world on the part of Abp LeFebvre.... This rupture is not irrevocable, but it is certainly real.
Well put, Smiter. Bob, I think see where you're coming from, and though I'm no Traditionalist, I am, if you will, a Traditionalist sympathizer. I understand why many Catholics want their good ol' Mass. But if we insist on a certain form of ritual over allegiance to the Church, our priorities are misaligned. Though some bishops, as you pointed out earlier, do hold that those who assist SSPX Masses are not necessarily themselves excommunicate (though I think Bishop LeFebvre clearly was), a Christian who is aware of the break (or tension, or whatever you want) between SSPX and the Church should view it as his duty to assist Mass at a church that is in full and perfect communion with the Holy See. Full communion ought to be a higher priority in our minds than beauty of ritual. Besides, I will say as a former Protestant, more is accomplished through internal reform than through schism.
Xena--
Thanks for providing that website fisheaters.com.. Tons of interesting info there..
...just ask yourself: WWJD?
The first thing He would do is reject the theology of Sheldon's In His Steps, but that's just my opinion, and that shows what's wrong with the WWJD concept in the first place.
Tired of TLAs? Join the SAA (Society Against Acronyms).
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