The Sci Fi Catholic Yak Module
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Somewhere, I have sketched out a design for a zero-gravity Orthodox church. It's shaped like a huge, inflatable onion dome. With rocket engines on the bottom.
I also have sketches for zero-gravity candles. Those get interesting...
Peter Gardner |
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02.02.08 - 6:40 pm | #
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Send in those illustrations and I'll display them to the world with credit and a link to your blog. Or better yet, how about making me a title graphic?
While I'm on the subject, see the comic The Sacred and the Profane for a Gothic cathedral rocketship. I think that ship and your ship should have a space battle or something...or better yet, they could combine into a giant robot and fight aliens.
D. G. D. Davidson |
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02.02.08 - 9:49 pm | #
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As regards that link, I've got to say I never thought I'd see a Mass where the celebrant was Tom Servo...
However, if it's space-going cathedrals that you want, you can't go wrong with the Imperium of Man. Beautiful Gothic design and enough firepower to cut a planet in half (though it should be noted that they will not, under any circumstances, combine into battle Titans; that way lies the corruption of the xenos and the Taint of Chaos) 
Templar |
02.03.08 - 9:30 am | #
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Imperium of Man...um, Warhammer, right?
D. G. D. Davidson |
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02.03.08 - 10:05 am | #
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None other.
Templar |
02.03.08 - 11:52 am | #
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One of these days, I'll get those designs to you.
Meanwhile, I need to actually get my blog up - I have a (occasionally updated) livejournal, but I started a blog a few months ago to discuss the liturgical implications of spaceflight, but never got around to posting anything.
Among the points I plan to discuss, how would you pray the Lord's Prayer on Mars? "Thy will be done, on Mars as it is in heaven"? Or is it unchangable?
Peter Gardner |
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02.06.08 - 9:34 am | #
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How about, "...in the Materium, as it is in the Immaterium." 
Templar |
02.06.08 - 10:11 am | #
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http://martianmonastery.blogspot...this-
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I have a blog!
Aside from being clunky, the [im]materium bit is inaccurate -- I know of at least four material human bodies in Heaven right now.
Peter Gardner |
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02.06.08 - 11:22 am | #
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Hey, Peter, thanks for showing us your new blog!
D. G. D. Davidson |
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02.06.08 - 5:39 pm | #
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Aside from being clunky, the [im]materium bit is inaccurate -- I know of at least four material human bodies in Heaven right now.
But Heaven is in an immaterial reality, at least as we would understand it, is it not? Or do I need to break out my catechism again?
Eh, it doesn't really matter. I wasn't seriously suggeting Materium/Immaterium as a workable alternative so much as taking the opportunity to make another random Warhammer 40,000 reference.
Templar |
02.07.08 - 10:35 am | #
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You're welcome to take out your catechism all you want, but I'm Russian Orthodox, so the only way it'll make much of an impression on me is if you throw it (and I'd just as soon you not...)
You'd think it would be immaterial, but Christ is 'up there', and he has a material body, and the Theotokos is up there too, with the same sort of body, and Enoch and Elijah are there with their bodies, which aren't even glorified bodies yet; theirs are still like ours.
Though since it was a reference to something (albeit something I'm not familiar with at this point), I'll withdraw my anathemas. (:
Anonymous |
02.07.08 - 12:58 pm | #
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That last anonymous was me.
Peter Gardner |
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02.07.08 - 12:59 pm | #
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For us in the Roman Rite, heaven is understood as outside of time, and I think we could readily interpolate to say outside the space-time continuum. So how 'bout "in the space-time continuum as it is in heaven"? It would also save us the trouble of having to change it every time we expanded to another planet.
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02.07.08 - 1:26 pm | #
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You'd think it would be immaterial, but Christ is 'up there', and he has a material body, and the Theotokos is up there too, with the same sort of body, and Enoch and Elijah are there with their bodies, which aren't even glorified bodies yet; theirs are still like ours.
I think Peter wins on this one, whichever rite you belong to; the Church does indeed teach that Christ has a body, and that there is a resurrection.
I don't think I know anything, however, about the condition of Enoch and Elijah's bodies; I was simply under the impression that regular, mortal bodies would not be in heaven, so I assumed they were glorified. Peter, can you point me to a Church Father or other source to contradict me?
D. G. D. Davidson |
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02.07.08 - 5:59 pm | #
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Offhand, all I can say is "where else would they be?" If I come across anything in the next few days, before I completely forget to look, I'll let you know.
I have read that the two witnesses in Revelation are supposed to be Enoch and Elijah, since they haven't had a chance to die yet.
Peter Gardner |
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02.08.08 - 6:28 am | #
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