I can think of at least one person who seems to convey a view of fatalistic determinism.

The thing about many extremes, is that many people hold to them, but not many admit to holding them...

And its hard to convince someone of something other than what they believe when they don't admit to believing it.

Granted in the case I think of at present, I may just believe falsely. However, I think there are many cases when the way someone believe on an issue is plain, especially when its extreme.

Why are extremes so easily adopted?

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Doug,
You will most likely not be to surprised that I agree with your compatibilistic (is that even a word?) views, however, I have a follow-up question. Adam fell yet his desires and inclinations up until the fall were 100% in-line with his Father's will; if man chooses according to their desires and God's foreordained plan, where did Adam's desire to sin come from? I'm sure we have both had this discussion before, I just want to hear your opinion in hopes that it might assist me in clearly articulating this with others in the future.
Thanks,
Derick


Derick,
Unfortunately, I am not going to be much help to you when it comes to Adam's initial disobedience. Yes, I've had the discussion many times, and in each case I am compelled to leave the answer in the category of 'mystery' (a solution that is not very satisfying). Every answer I have seen thus far pushes either God's freedom or Adam's freedom off of the biblical cliff. I think the best Scriptural treatment of theodicy I have heard is MacArthur's message at the Ligonier conference a year or two ago, however, it still leaves the question of Adam's sin unexplained.


"Every answer I have seen thus far pushes either God's freedom or Adam's freedom off of the biblical cliff." Yep. I appreciate your response. I will look and see if I can find that message by MacArthur.


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