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Interesting. Sounds like some "legalism" involved with wafer content and wine content. In a sense, sort of like the arguments over baptism.
I do know that it varies from church to church, but didn't expect it to be as widespread as the press story makes it out to be.
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I'm interested too, David. I've scanned the Catholic blogs I usually frequent, but haven't seen anything. Will keep you posted if I run across anything. And I will watch this space.
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I was thinking about blogging about this today but guessed it would just lead to more people saying I'm anti-Catholic!
I don't understand how only wheat can be transubstantiated into the body of Christ, so I would also be interested in hearing a Catholic perspective on this.
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I was raised Catholic and we used the regular paper thin communion wafer at my church.
However, we did attend other Catholic churches in which we broke bread off of the loaf of wheat bread and it wasn't an issue.
I hate it when people divide over this kind of stuff.
"In essentials, unity; in nonessentials, liberty; and in all things, charity"
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08.21.04 - 12:49 pm | #
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If you want to read a good post and an extensive discussion in the comment box on this go here.
It was written by Steven Greydanus and was posted on Jimmy Akin's blog. Akin is a Catholic apologist who is quite precise in his argumentation. He ordinarily does not go any further than where the Catholic Church has officially gone in its teachings or practices. Although he did not write the post, I suspect that he would not allow the post to remain had he not agreed with it overall.
There are various links in the comment box to recent Church documents which treat the matter. But there is also this link to a writing on it by St. Thomas Aquinas, just to show that it has been a topic that has been written about for centuries.
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Mark Shea provided a link to an article on the story. He had little comment on it, but his readers provided a lot in the comment box.
One of the, Tom Kreitzberg, the blogger of 'Disputations', had a good post on it as well. There is also a good discussion in the comment box as well.
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Mark Shea's comment on the issue followed only a couple of weeks after he posted a link about a prison inmate who'd converted to some variant of Baptistism and was fretting about his eternal destiny because the prison authorities wouldn't (for security reasons) let him undergo Full Immersion. (He wanted to do it in a nearby river, IIRC). some of the Sheavian regulars took a (deserved) swipe at this fellow's legalistic theology: one commented that it would be helpful in these cases to have a doctrine of "Baptism of Desire". Now the tables are turned and we learn that it's only for one of the [insert preferred number 1>
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Mark Shea's comment on the issue followed only a couple of weeks after he posted a link about a prison inmate who'd converted to some variant of Baptistism and was fretting about his eternal destiny because the prison authorities wouldn't (for security reasons) let him undergo Full Immersion. (He wanted to do it in a nearby river, IIRC). Some of the Sheavian regulars took a (deserved) swipe at this fellow's legalistic theology: one commented that it would be helpful in these cases to have a doctrine of "Baptism of Desire". Now the tables are turned and we learn that it's only for one of the [insert preferred number from 2 to 7] sacraments that intention is paramount and physical mode is an adiaphoron.
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It isn't an issue in the Philippines, where the great majority of believers are Catholic. Some priests have discussed it, but in general, their sermons highlight the spirit behind the communion that is given more relevance and importance.
Division in the Family of God is hardly what is needed right now.
It's a pleasure to be able to post on your blog again, Dr. Heddle. 
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