This is an old charge against the reformers

*cough*

I think you mean the Swiss Reformers.

The Lutheran Reformers were as insistent on the Real Presence as the Roman Catholics - though the Lutherans denied transubstantiation as a misleading philosophical explanation imposed on the historical doctrine of the Real Presence.

As for the rest of your comments, and in particular the question of whether the Calvinistic innovation of a "spiritual" presence has any useful meaning, I'll leave it to Josh Strodtbeck to drop by and flog this particular dead horse should he feel like it.


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