Please stay on topic. Please don't be asses.

Gravatar Or the participants at a rally in some German city who's name escapes me.


Gravatar I thought that was funny. I guess that answers the question "Is our children learning"?


Gravatar Takes after his mother. You know, her beautiful mind and all that...


Gravatar Digby,

I think what is happening is that reality keeps rearing its ugly head, making it harder to hold on to the original reasons that they loved Bush - compassionate conservative, tough in the GWOT, fiscal hawk, uniter, etc. So they have to retreat to a fantasy-based version of Bush to justify their own support for him.

Next thing you know they'll be saying he's a champion bike rider...


Gravatar I prefer La Noonan's dewy-eyed description of him as her "steely-eyed rocket man."

And what's wrong with NSynch? Actually, what is NSynch?


Gravatar From a 1997 North Korean newspaper article:

"The Korean people absolutely worship, trust and follow the General as god. These noble ideological feelings are ascribable to the fact that they have keenly felt the greatness of the General from the bottom of their hearts. He is the great teacher who teaches them what the true life is, a father who provides them with the noblest political integrity and a tender-hearted benefactor who brings their worthwhile life into full bloom."

Powerline performs the same function without coercion, and nominally for free, although I doubt John's sycophancy will go unrewarded.


Gravatar "the public is wonderfully tolerant, it forgives everything but genius." - oscar wylde


Gravatar But it's true. .... In the world where I look like Catherine Deneuve and sing like Diana Krall and compete in Olympic ice dancing. This world doesn't exist yet, but it could, in another dimension.

As for them extolling his bike riding next .... I recall vividly the media reports that were issued after one of Bush's medical exams, probably midway through his first term. It claimed he had a heart rate equal to that of Lance Armstrong. I kid you not. They really said that, and it wasn't some winger blog: it was the New York Times.

This stuff is great: for me to poop on.


Gravatar yes, bush is the Mozart of lying, theft, and mass murder.


Gravatar It's a mistake to dismiss this.

It's not hysteria, it's fetishism. It's a belief in the supernatural, as embodied in a totem. It's the same thing as the weirdly maudlin worship of the "baby Jesus" or the irrational and wildly disproportionate concern for the "unborn."

It's an easy way not to think about hard issues, and it lets people feel virtuous without much effort.


Gravatar I note that Powerline doesn't solicit feedback.......

Can these people really believe that W is a genius?????????


Gravatar This late-period decadent Maoist cant really is a widespread, halluncinatory hypnosis, a bizarre personality cult fueled by cynicism and opportunism and drunk in by credulous idiots not worthy enough to hold the rank of citizen.

If anyone ever wondered even for a moment how ostensibly educated Germans could have ever fallen for a gnashing psychopath need look no further than this work of epic self-delusion (no, I'm not calling the GOP Nazis, it's more about the blithe worship of an unreal mythology that most people — even most Republicans can't possibly believe).

It is a fetish for the weakminded to bow down to certitude and lick the boots of their perceived masters, and that ol' boy is down on all four and taking it all in.


Gravatar He IS a genius. A man who can invent a language, entirely separate from English but almost intelligible to English speakers, is an obvious intellect.


Gravatar hey bleh, bewildered minds think alike...Sorry man.


Gravatar Remember, as the former dictator of a central European country in the 1930s and 1940s once said, the bigger the lie, the more the masses believe it.


Gravatar I think this gushing praise sounds like nothing so much as that which Moonies give to that Sun Moon guy-- they come right out and call him a god.


Gravatar cut that boy off. He had too much kool-aid.



We jest but there is lot of 'em out there who see the world and bush that way.

ok, I can't help myself - that boy has been dipping his toes in the shallow end of the gene pool.


Gravatar dammit, he is a genius. Just like those two guys that played the banjos in Deliverance were geniuses.


Gravatar They've made every other dubious bit of bullshit stick for the last six years... why not this?


Gravatar "But I could've told you, Dubya
This world was never meant
For one as beautiful as you..."


Gravatar Wow. Unbelievable. At best Bush could be described as a canny "delegater" and a guy whose personal style and networking skills bring him success. But a "man of extraordinary vision and brilliance approaching to genius"? a "a great painter or musician who is ahead of his time"? For one thing, most of his ideas are old conservative pets that have been carried along since FDR --- dismantle Social Security, cut taxes, privatize everything -- that's not vision ahead of his time, that's just the same tired old crap they've all been preaching for decades. His global view is perhaps something new --- except it isn't even his idea, its PNAC warmed-over horsehit.

I mean --- even if one actually supported him it would be stretching the truth mightily to think him anything approaching brilliance or genius.


Gravatar Well put, G.


Gravatar His genius is the message that he winks to the Republicans: "You too can get what think you are entitled to without having to work for it, and then you can sit back and laugh at all the suckers that DO study and work." It's music to their ears, so they love their special little boy.


Gravatar Tbogg absolutely nuked Hindpocket with this gem:

"C'mon. If you said that in front of Laura Bush at lunch she would probably shoot milk out of her nose."


Gravatar Basharov

I'm pretty sure Digby meant NSync - I think it's a moronic band favored by teenagers.


Gravatar On a more serious note, it seems to me that what's been happening is the age old human tendency, during times of great fear or stress, to look for two opposing characters:

1) The Hero Who Will Save Us (Dubya)

2) The Scapegoat Who Is Our Hero's Numero Uno Enemy (Liberals)

Once humans find their Hero and their Scapegoat, they will cling to them until their arms are ripped from their sockets, because they would be babes in the wilderness without their Hero and their Scapegoat. In other words, they'd have to think for themselves, and that is what really scares the flying fuck out of them.


Gravatar How dare someone not mention me; it's my vision, my grandiose scheme. Me, all me!


Gravatar "All of that is bullshit. It's a form of mass hysteria ---- along the lines of the Salem Witch trials or the audience at an NSynch concert."

Remember the trial of the "Gang of Four and the White Boned Demon"? The audience for that was about as unpredictable as our media and the mystico-fascist-psycho-Republicans.

Our media and the mfsRs all seem to take it as a given that no criticism of Georgus Bush is allowed and that all penalties from being ignored up to and perhaps including lynching is the just penalty for those blaspheming their man-god.

It's when they get that hysterical that you know that they know that their god is a fraud.


Gravatar Make that a p. Long week.


Gravatar You want the bizarro world? Check this out:

http://accstudios.com/

I just read '1984' earlier this month. The intellectual dishonesty and complete lack of logic that is displayed by the right is unnerving.


Gravatar I don't know much about "NSync" but when a teenybopper pays their fifty bucks he or she receives a couple hours of well rehearsed and energetically delivered singing and dancing. Value for money.
I'd stick with the Salem witch trials.


Gravatar The Rude Pundit has a great commentary.


Gravatar "one masterpiece after another..."

What was the first one?


Gravatar All I can say on these blog threads anymore is, this country is so fucking finished, it's just a joke, kiss it all goodbye folks, and that's even without Cheney's next terra attack.

This is why I don't post much anymore, too depressing.


Gravatar Anchower, that's a disturbing link.

I reread 1984 recently and it left me deeply shaken. As a young guy I hadn't comprehended it -- that's what worries me most, looking back.

Conservative comic artists warn of a Left-Orwellian future... am I an egotist to think I now "get" 1984 moreso than these folks do?


Gravatar samela made milk shoot out of my nose.

"preety much yes..."


Gravatar Faith, divorced from fact, becomes delusion. The GOP prides itself on being the Party of Faith.


Gravatar When I read hindrockets quote all I could think of was Hitlers adoring unquestioning admires.

Red State Facism at its finest.
All hail our great Christian President!!
Hail. Hail. Hail Our Great Christian Leader.


Gravatar Hang in there, Sharkbabe. It will get better.

Don't forget to watch CSPAN's coverage of a conference of people who have questions about 9/11 -

to be broadcast Sat AND Sun.

Go to CSPAN for details.

This administration's threads are being pulled, and their onion is being peeled. We will win.


Gravatar Digby, I believe the most apt comparison is with Jonestown. It's an insular cult of personality where the Leader is the right hand of God and deserves total obedience and trust, even when he's clearly nuts.

Let's hope the freetards drink the nice grape KoolAid and take a nap, SOON.


Gravatar reminds me of THIS dkos diary today:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/20...7/29/105042/ 743


Gravatar The genius and vision of George W. Bush?

Is that anything like the wit and charm of Ann Coulter?


Gravatar Aren't they just looking for jobs with the Republicans?


Gravatar Hello. I am a gardener and I have decided to run for president of this fine country.

My approach is simple. In the garden, growth has it seasons. First comes spring and summer, but then we have fall and winter. And then we get spring and summer again.

Thank you.


Gravatar They idolize Bush because:

a.) He "beat" the evil Klintoon's VP and wiped away most or all of the evil Klintoon's effect on government policy.

b.) He's offered results (frustrating liberals, attacking ragheads, promoting Jesusland principles, expanding corporate wealth) and effectively winks and nods to all in his base, from the ruthless rich to the goober poor, that there'll be more to come.

Is that "genius"? No, but it's such music to Republican ears, that they're prone to hyperbole.


Gravatar I think we elected Chance the Gardener in 2000. And re-elected his stupider clone in 2004.


Gravatar I'd also like to say, I think this Chauncey Gardner fellow has something profound and important to say to us all. He may be our last, best hope.

Thank you.


Gravatar If you replace the word "man" with the word "chimp," it makes perfect sense.


Gravatar Anybody know how to pronounce "Nsync"? I can figure out "INXS," but this one's throwing me for a loop. Should I find a teenybopper and ask?


Gravatar Sometimes I think that if we can just hang on a little longer, these whack-jobs will be revealed as the utter whack-jobs that they are.....that the collective scales will drop from country's eyes and people will see W. as he really is----a very, small, narrow, sociopath who stole and conned his way to power. If he's not impeached, he'll end up in the Hague. Eventually.


And then there are other times when I think we are just one major act of terrorism from turning into a large-scale Rwanda------with people suddenly turning and gunning down their neighbors as part of a whole "liberal clensing" organized freak-out, fueled by 20 years of hate talk from the Right.

And then I think, no, that's crazy, that kind of mass hysteria and mass violence just couldn't happen here.

And then I think about Rwanda again.....Yugoslavia......Cambodia....the Cultural Revolution......Chile.....Argentina....and I realize this sort of thing can happen anywhere and I wonder why, if I really think this could happen, why am I not trying to get to Canada with my husband and our three kids while we can.

And then I think, no, that's crazy, get a grip....settle down....and on and on.

It's been like this for about three years now, this back and forth conversation.


Gravatar Drugs. Massive amounts of psychotropic drugs. That's the only plausible explanation I've got.


Gravatar Reminds me of a documentary I once saw in which they interviewed a guy who was in a Russian gulag on the day Stalin died. He said all the prisoners in the gulag were weeping at the announcement of the death of the man who had sent them there -- because Stalin had made himself so huge and important and synonymous with their country that they literally could not imagine the world without him.

This is what the Right is trying to do -- and it scares me to death to see how close they come.


Gravatar I'm down with Chance the Gardener. I'd follow him anywhere.
And Basharov, I just asked my teenage son and he said Nsync is pronounced simply "in sink."


Gravatar Poor George. All he ever wanted was for mommy and daddy to acknowledge his latent genius. Even though others are finally doing so, mommy and daddy still don't see it. And now daddy is showering all his fatherly attention on that icky Bill Clinton. Sigh.

Its even worse. The magnitude of George's genius will be forever eclipsed by the genius of that greater hero who came before him, Ronnie Reagan.


Gravatar Yeah, I think cult leader captures it perfectly. Come to me babies!

I read on the internets* that the late Pope JPII thought Bush was the Antichrist. When you remember that the Antichrist is to be some sort of charismatic cult leader it makes sense.

*so it has to be true


Gravatar "in sink"

Got it. Now I won't be in any danger of having my attempt to seek enlightenment from random teenyboppers I accost outside Tower Records be misinterpreted.

I believe the most apt comparison is with Jonestown.

Nah. It's the "Cult of Personality" of Russia under Stalin, North Korea under Kim Il-Sung, China under Mao, and the University of Chicago under Leo Strauss.


Gravatar "It must be very strange to be President Bush."

Or, translated into concensus English: "President Bush must be very strange."


Gravatar "in sink"

Many thanks. Now I won't be in fear of having my questions to random teenagers gathered outside Tower Records be misinterpreted.

I believe the most apt comparison is with Jonestown.

Nah. It's the "Cult of Personality" of Russia under Stalin, North Korea under Kim il-Sung, China under Mao, and the University of Chicago under Leo Strauss.


Gravatar Now, how did that happen? Curse you haloscan.


Gravatar I thank those who have written kind things about me here. For those who have written unkind words, may your garden be filled with rotten tomatoes.


Gravatar Where have you gone, Lee Harvey, where have you gone?


Gravatar " He is like a great painter or musician who is ahead of his time, and who unveils one masterpiece after another to a reception that, when not bored, is hostile."
Oh, you mean like Yoko Ono?


Gravatar The stupids are too stupid to notice they're stupid.


Gravatar This is a big thing though...it signals the next stage.

The mental gyrations required to produce this statement indicate a rabid grasp of Reality. (Previously they might feel a little punky, salivate a little more...but now the hydrophobia truly begins.)

They will start to turn on their own for no reason that the outside can ascertain.

Breakdown has begun.


Gravatar It's been like this for about three years now, this back and forth conversation.

Midwest Meg

I hear where you're coming from. I get bogged down in thinking about how to get a job, whether Canadians allow visas, etc. Then I think, well, it COULD get better here, but despair at the alternative,and, as you say, back and forth.


Gravatar Meg,

Don't know about Canada, but get the hell out of the Midwest before the Children of the Corn sacrifice you to He Who Squawks And Leans On Rove.

Is that pun tortured enough for Friday afternoon?


Gravatar When he's not creating unappreciated masterpieces you can watch him vigorously swim the Potomac.

"We all believed that Kim Jong-il was a genius from heaven. We had to recite this
hundreds and thousands of times," said Lee Young Guk, a former bodyguard. ...


Gravatar Brian: a link for this please?
"I read on the internets* that the late Pope JPII thought Bush was the Antichrist"


Gravatar I have suggested before that liberals risk their own survival by
making the mistake of believing that
Bush is stupid. He merely plays
stupid on TV to keep you off guard.

I would consider Rectal Rocket's
praise of Bush as literally true and
I would advise taking it as a warning:

Think of Bush as a great painter. He
is painting his Masterpiece. The
title is currently a secret. But
in twenty years the title shall be
revealed. The title shall be...
" The Abolition of America and the
Restoration of Slavery"

20 years, folks. Unless we figure out
how to cut off Bush's painting arm
and burn his painting. We have been
warned.


Gravatar I can hardly believe this is real. What kind of fool would write such a thing. And mean it. Christ. And, btw, I love the Being There ref... I often think of that movie in times like these. Its funny, b/c I don't know if the analogy is apt... In the movie, Chance is mistaken to be a deep, insightful person by his betters. In reality, George's betters know he is a shallow dunce, and they take advantage of him rigorously.


Gravatar Powerline...typing while we pick the pubes out of our teeth since 2004.


Gravatar True believers (and there were plenty) said the same things about Nixon. And, in fact, some of the same folks (e.g. Noonan) still do. But it's important to distinguish those who rhapsodize over their chosen demigod hypocritically, and those who are actual believers. The latter will continue to redouble their fervor right up until the moment that their faith evaporates, while the former never had any actual faith to begin with, and will simply bend with the political tide.

Stated differently, self-delusions are often clung to hardest when the evidence supporting them is least. But once brought to the breaking point, the delusions will evaporate, with some former believers opportunistically joining the hypocrites (perhaps to save face as much as any other form of self-interest) while others will flee to the "enemy" camp. Such people do exist -- I know some of them -- and we need to be ready to welcome them.


Gravatar OR, the person who wrote this is really really stupid and looks up to Bush.


Gravatar Yeah, man, that thing that he does when he kind of snorts through his nose when he makes fun of liberals: sheer genius.

Wearing that little black box on his back for the debate and getting away with it: sheer fucking genius.

And that recent film clip of him walking by a bunch of camerman and flipping everyone the bird once his back was to them: sheer fucking amazing genius.


Gravatar Bush as Antichrist.

http://www.findarticles.com/p/ar...27/ ai_108881880

Just google it. There's 62,500 hits at the moment.

I thought of another metaphor. Bush is like a bum stock pick. You buy Enron because you heard it was great. It gets cut in half. You buy more because this great stock is cheaper now. It gets cut in half again. Rather than face the fact you made a mistake you buy more. You ride it all the way to zero if you can be honest with yourself. Buttrocket is riding Bushco to zero.


Gravatar oops: You ride it all the way to zero if you can't be honest with yourself.


Gravatar " He is like a great painter or musician who is ahead
of his time,"

I always knew George Bush reminded me of somebody, but I couldn't quite put my finger on it, but now I've got it--- Charlie Parker!!!

Or maybe it was Picasso.


Gravatar I liked Digby's analysis of the neo-cons, Republicans, righties, whatever you call them, as "mass hysteria ---- along the lines of the Salem Witch trials..." and I like it because it offers hope that one day (maybe not in my lifetime), we will see the end of these Republican Dark Ages. Then we could begin to get on with trying to save the planet, trying to create a world economy that works for everyone, trying to narrow the gap between the rich and the poor, trying to help end hunger and disease and injustice.

Instead, now, we have these delusional sociopaths in charge, and millions of people voting for them and supporting their insane plans. Digby is absolutely right.

For a closeup shot of Bush revealing his mindset toward us all, click on the Newsguy link.


Gravatar I just had to add another comment. Is that Jim Anchower posting a comment up above the same J.A. who used to write all that funny stuff on The Onion?

And one more thing, I think Chris was wrong about the two genius guys who played banjo in Deliverance. There was only one banjo guy, I'm pretty sure.

But the comparison to the Bushies was right on.


Gravatar Digby, I have been reading your blog for a couple of months now, and I want to thank you for your truly insightful commentary. I am struck by this particular entry because, while it is short, it states so much about the current political and social climate in this country. You use the phrase "empistemic relativism", and I think that phrase truly nails it. After all the shouting is over, the philosophy that truly animates the modern Republican Party (and by modern, I mean going back to the Coolidge era) is creating an alternate reality in order to disguise Republican's true beliefs. Those beliefs are simple - complete faith in free market ideology, little or no taxation, absolutely no redistribution of economic wealth, and using the power of government to achieve these goals. Of course, Republicans don't actually believe in government, at least not government as you and I and most rational people understand it. In their minds, government exists to defend the country and enable the rich to remain rich or acquire even more wealth. This is hardly a novel conception - historians have been writing about this for years. The problem for Republicans in the modern era, however, is that most of the citizens in this country simply don't believe in these principles. The vast, vast majority of Americans want and expect their government to work on their behalf - they want the potholes filled, the street lights to work, the firefighters to come when there's a fire, their children to receive a good education and hopefully do as well or better than they have done economically, the environment to be protected so the air they breathe and the water they drink are clean, guaranteed health care or at least guaranteed health insurance, fairness and equity in their civil and criminal justice systems, a good and safe place to live, to assist people less fortunate than themselves and for government to do its part in this regard, and for government to uphold and respect, and not abuse, their rights and civil liberties. In other words, the American people want their government to provide, to some degree, a welfare state that enables people to get ahead and does not allow anyone to fall through the cracks. True, Americans generally believe in capitalism, but they want well regulated capitalism, and they expect the government to fulfill this function and ensure some kind of level playaing field. Of course, all of these expectations fly in the face of Republican orthodoxy, indeed, are the antithesis of Republican orthodoxy. Republicans know this, so in order to achieve their goals, they must create an alternate reality where fact becomes fiction and vice versa (i.e. - Clean Skies legislation that actually allows more air pollution, Clear Forests laws that allow for the cutting of more trees, etc.). One of the best current examples of this phenomenon is the estate tax. Informed people know that the estate tax only applies to estates over one million dollars, and thus only a very small portion of the population is affected by the tax, a portion, incidentally, who are in a much better position to pay it than anyone else. Change the terminology to the death tax, however, and bring in a few small farmers and business people who have likely never paid the tax, and voila, the majority of the people want the tax abolished. This is very sophisticated sophistry, and could not be accomplished without the assistance of an alternative media where the altnernate reality can be created, and with little established media to challenge it. This is also what is so utterly despicable about Republican orthodoxy - it is based almost entirely on complete fabrication, or in other words, lies and dishonesty. We're not just talkiing about moral and/or epistemological relativism here - we're talking about the creation of a complete and utter fantasy where there is no objective truth, and where facts either don't exist or don't matter (a distinction without a difference). I am an attorney and have studied history for many years. The period we are living in isn't particularly new or unique or even necessarily interesting. As in the past, eventually those who create the alternate reality will fail under the sheer weight of their bullshit, greed, and arrogance of power. Indeed, we are beginning to see that occur now. So, while there are so many things that just seem absolutely bleak at the moment, the inevitable process of change and speaking truth to those who would abuse power rather than wield it for the common good will result in the kind of change we all want. This blog is part of that process, and I thank you, Digby, for providing this forum.


Gravatar I just have to ask..........What?

What kind of "genius" are we talking about here?

I'm just not seeing it.


Gravatar The hardcore Bushies have drunk the Kool-Aid. It's no coincidence that so many of them are evangelicals. It's an irrational religious thing. They long ago crossed over into Jim Jones, Marshall Applewhite, Tom Cruise territory.


Gravatar He is like a great painter or musician who is ahead of his time...

Hmmmm... who does thees rrremind me of?

Ay compinches...

¡Eureka!

so.


Gravatar Lewis Lapham has captured this world well: Washington under Bush is a place where lying is truth, truth-telling is lying.


Gravatar It's not all that surprising considering that most people cultivate irrational behaviors and beliefs. They pray to a god, they buy magnetic insoles for their shoes, they swallow homeopathic crap, and so on. I'm very sorry to say that everyone, even lefties court irrationality. It's hard for most people to deny things they really, really want to believe.


Gravatar glenstone -
You must have missed the official explanation: he was giving the "thumbs up" to the reporters. And if you continue to imply otherwise, "I will not dignify that with a response".

As someone - well, a lot of someones - said a long time ago (last year?): They lie about everything. They lie about the big stuff, they lie about the small stuff, they lie about the stuff that's too inconsequential to matter if it's true or false.

And as one astute observer noted: the only people who get fired from this administration are the ones who tell the truth.


Gravatar El Gato Negro hits it out of the park again.

These folks are beyond delusional. Yeah, Bush is ahead of his time...if "his time" had been prior to the Gilded Age with the robber barons and poor-houses and floor sweepings in the sausages and 6 year-olds being employed as chimney sweeps. Cause that's the world these fucks would return us to, given the chance.


Gravatar The genius Bush. [emphasis mine]

Rubenstein said, "We put [Bush] on the board and [he] spent three years. Came to all the meetings. Told a lot of jokes. Not that many clean ones. And after a while I kind of said to him, after about three years - you know, I'm not sure this is really for you. Maybe you should do something else. Because I don't think you're adding that much value to the board. You don't know that much about the company.

Rubenstein continued: "He said, well I think I'm getting out of this business anyway. And I don't really like it that much. So I'm probably going to resign from the board. And I said, thanks - didn't think I'd ever see him again. His name is George W. Bush. He became President of the United States. So you know if you said to me, name 25 million people who would maybe be President of the United States, he wouldn't have been in that category. So you never know. Anyway, I haven't been invited to the White House for any things."


Gravatar Drugs. Massive amounts of psychotropic drugs. That's the only plausible explanation I've got.

Bushie in the Sky with Diamonds.

BSD.


Gravatar Chris,

Excellent post, thanks. There's nothing all that novel about the Republican approach, but they've executed competently. We live in a society with vibrant traditions of freedom of speech and association that we need to exercise even more robustly. Exposure is the key and the lay-down-play-dead press has been a huge impediment.

That's why it is so invigorating watching the MSM fall and be replaced (in part) by our alternatives, brick by brick. And falling they are -- 52% of adults read a newspaper daily in 1990, 37% in 2000, even more extreme numbers among younger readers.

That our ragtag outfit has fought them to a standstill, while growing in numbers and sophistication, augurs well for the future.
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Gravatar Trpublicans want nothing to do with the free market. That's hard work!
Crony capitalism is where it's at, baby. And huge federal no-bid contracts with no oversight.
Free market, forsooth!


Gravatar Great post, Chris. I have to wonder how long the process will be (and what it will take) to swing the pendulum back to some sort of recognizable reality. Every time someone like Paul O'Neil or Richard Clarke or Joe Wilson step forward to try to reveal the truth to this country, lefties get all excited that this is the one, this is the revelation that people won't be able to deny. We hope that this time will be the one that brings this despicable group of people down. And yet, each time, the Bushies pull something out of their hat to either confuse, distract or otherwise fool the people (who, as others have noted, are willing accomplices in this charade); and the issue fades away.
I'm not under any illusion that anyone in this administration will ever be held accountable for the mess they've made. It will take a generation for anything resembling an accurate accounting of this administration to wriggle its way into the collective reality. At this point I'm more concerned with their legacy. How much more damage can this group wreak; and how many generations will it take to climb out from under the pile?


Gravatar I've been telling you clowns the same thing for over a year.

First the enemy is the devil. But eventually, he becomes the fool. This is both inevitable and necessary.

Outrage only fuels the enemy. Ridicule confounds him. OUR enemies have worked overtime assuming all kinds of ridiculous poses and yet the leftie chant is "where's the outrage"?

They have no shame. They are unaccountable. Their minions don't give a flying fuck what happens to America so long as they get to piss on you.

They may have no shame, but they do have an ego. A never-graduated-from-highschool small-dicked ego, but it's an ego. Your outrage makes them think they've got balls, these fair-weather fans, this vicarious fifth-column. But your ridicule will make them go absolutely ape fucking shit.

Are you getting it now?
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Gravatar Hindrocket is totally correct. Many will not recognize the true genius of GWB until he has trundled off this mortal coil.

/right


Gravatar Grand Moff Texan: you are so right


Gravatar Performance art- Heads on Pikes!


Gravatar I am an attorney and have studied history for many years.

Hey, nice stuff, but you should've studied English just a tad to learn about paragraphs. Jeez Louise!


Gravatar If you actually read what Hindraker said, he himself describes the above words as "hyperbolic".

But you and Armando removed that part.

You are frauds.


Gravatar Here and elsewhere similar, there seems to be a general assumption that the MSM will eventually come around and do their jobs, and ultimately reveal the lies and hypocrisy and lead the public back to sanity. Bad assumption. Unless the media gets deconsolidated (which ain't happenin', folks) they will continue to be in the service of their corporate paymasters who will continue to support the politicians who enable them and perpetuate their power. And we're not talkin' populists, folks. The internet provides some possible undermining, but for the fact that here you pick and choose your info sources and there is even less balance on any given site than there is on MSM (except for Fox, the eternal exception). So the fundie whackjobs can spend all their time doing the circle jerk with HindRocket and the Freepers and whoever else, and it'll be worse than ever. Polarization will get probably worse instead of better.
Hey, sorry about the spiraling depressive post, I frankly don't see a way out, since I've kind of given up on over half my countrymen after watching what's happened the last couple years. It's wretched to see all this happening.


Gravatar Balance?

Excuse me, balance?

I like this site because Digby points out distortions of fact, and quotes liberally to do so, so I don't see where a lack of balance might be germane.

It's a lack of fact that is plaguing America, not a lack of (dear God!) balance.

When one foot is stuck in a tub of cement and the tub is about to be heaved overboard, balance is the least of one's concerns.


Gravatar Hindrocket egregious? Shameless? a liar and a scumbag?

But, Mr. Digby, he's a lawyer!

[Paraphrased from Mel Brooks' "Life Stinks"]


Gravatar Conic section "am" sez: If you actually read what Hindraker said, he himself describes the above words as "hyperbolic".

So they mathematically become 1/X ?

Only an innumerate like AssMissile could say something that stupid.


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Hindrocket is totally correct. Many will not recognize the true genius of GWB until he has trundled off this mortal coil.


Ah, yes, that Caligula arc is still on course ...


Gravatar "Charlie Parker... or maybe it was Picasso"

Interesting choice of geniuses. Both those guys could be world-class assholes. But they had genuine charisma. Even if they had been talentless, like Bush, they would have been well-liked.

If more politicians had this combination of qualities, we'd probably be in big trouble. I think of my late father: people liked him, and were eager to help him, but he was an incompetent and a selfish liar.

I hope that's not Bush's secret. My father couldn't manage anything either. But we kept coming back for more. And some people deceived themselves to make it feel better.

I rejected that sort of father-figure, though. Not going back for anyone, most especially W.


Gravatar I love it when somebody accuses me of not including the whole quote and changing the context --- and then they only use part of the quote to prove it.

Here's what Highpockets actually wrote as an addendum:

Hyperbolic? Well, maybe. But consider Bush's latest master stroke: blah, blah, blah.

He wasn't exactly repudiating his "irrational exuberance" now was he?


Gravatar Precisely, digby.


Gravatar Hi guys!
Wow it feels great to know there's other Saddam lovers out there!


Gravatar Been looking for a site like this for a long time. I will be back often. eine reise in theoretische physik im fach geschichte


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