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Gravatar "Trip around the world with Paris Hilton" would be punishment, not reward, Digs.


Gravatar Time to "find" Osama, and quickly.


Gravatar "Trip around the world with Paris Hilton" would be punishment, not reward, Digs.
Slothrop | Homepage | 09.30.05 - 5:18 pm | #


Maybe they could send Jenna™ and Tonic™ and make it a reality show?
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Gravatar Time to "find" Osama, and quickly.
Pechorin | 09.30.05 - 5:32 pm | #


Or maybe Saddam's trial?


Gravatar It seems that Mr. Fitzgerald will surely hand down indictments to somebody for something after this length of time.Failure to indict somebody now would lead I believe to a general uprising among the populace.


Gravatar Hmmm... Wading Through the River of Republican Corruption

http://blog.thedemocraticdaily.c...aily.com/? p=728


Gravatar Rove. Perp. Walk.


Gravatar Anybody speculating on the coincidence that Judy agrees to talk the same day that Roberts is confirmed on the SCOTUS?

Or is it just coincidence?


Gravatar By the way, that's Massa Bill Bennett's bro Bob who is the lead attorney representing the martyred Ms Miller. Good to see sharing of family values here.


Gravatar After watching Chris Matthews interview Cheney's lawyer and Dan Abrams interview his daddy, who is a lawyer for Miller, I couldn't take it any more. I'd rather get my news online and from my daily newspaper, which is thankfully not the NYT.


Gravatar BTW, Paris Hilton has now identified herself as "the closest thing to royalty that America has." Doesn't say much for America, does it?


Gravatar I think Pat Fitzgerald has had the goods on the Bush crew for some time, he seems
good on not saying anything about the
investigation, and letting them sweat and
spectulate.


Gravatar I second what Slothrop said. Ewww.


Gravatar I DESPISE David Corn, and have spent this entire day refuting his despicable dismissal of antiwar protesters in Washington DC last weekend as "irrelevant." I don't know which is more disgusting: Bush's contempt for Americans or David Corn's contempt for Americans. Though 300,000 americans showed up to engage in their constitutional right to "petition their government for redress of grievances" last Saturday, Corn thinks they are "marching to irrelevance" because they haven't had any impact on Bush policies. Yet, smug, arroganta, elitist David Corn had a publisher's advance for his book Bush's Lies, and is Washington editor of the Nation Magazine--and since 2001 his book and magazine have had NO IMPACT on Bush either. Let's see: 300,000 vs 1. I'd say Corn is DEFINITELY THE IRRELEVANT ONE.


Gravatar Slothrop-
"Trip around the world with Paris Hilton" would be punishment, not reward,

Well, that depends what you mean by "a trip around the world"


Gravatar Orange jumpsuits for everybody!


Gravatar Suzanne -

I'm with you in that protest is meaningful and critical. *these* protests imho may not be - they are organized by ANSWER which is really a wierd group - they support Milosevic for heavns' sake - ANSWER organized protest, by associating anti-war sentiment with stalinism: support of Kim Jong Il and Castro etc just muddy the waters. ANSWER might even be agents provocateurs for all I know - if they aren't riddled w/FBI I would be surprised.


Gravatar "Punchin' Judy": Digby is punning on a very old traditional marionette show whose English version is called "Punch and Judy."

http://www.punchandjudy.com/who.htm

In 1956, when I was five years old, my parents rode "La Liberte" to France and brought me and my younger sister along. On the ship, we watched the English Punch and Judy, then later saw its French equivalent at a small outdoor puppet theatre in the Jardin de Tuileries -- the gardens, in the twentieth century a public park, of the old and vanished Palace of the Tuileries.

http://www.georgianindex.net/Nap.../ Tuileries.html

In my recollection -- perhaps faulty -- Judy always ended up bashing Punch, who liked to get drunk, with a big stick.

Paris in 1956 was not very much changed from the beloved European city which cast its spell over Europe for hundreds of years. The automobile had not yet made much progress in its slow takeover of human (and equine) spaces.

Sad to say, the everyday Paris of 2005 does not, to my eyes, retain much of that charm. On the other hand, most people over 40 tend to imagine that the world is getting as worn out as they feel. Let us hope I am just being an old sour lemon.


Gravatar One can disagree with David Corn about the effectiveness of the protests without despising him. (I support the notion of protesting, but happen to agree with him that with regard to Bush it is ineffective, as is everything with regard to Bush; his own propensity to screw up is the only thing that is convincing the country, far better than protests).

But here, even that is beside the point--the passage digby cites is a piece of reportage, revealing some interesting leaks about Fitzgerarld's focus and confidence. It's not something to pass judgment on David Corn about.

I think the rhetoric needs to ratchet down a notch, myself. I try to save my invective for the consistently wrong and evil side--the Republican administration--not reporters who have been working on "our" side for many years but with whom you happen to disagree on one point or another. Honestly, the ever-changing saints and sinners list has to be put aside in the interest of more important stuff.


Gravatar I agree -- Judy is not the main course at all. What I suspect Fitzgerald had to do was eliminate the defense, namely that Miller and Cooper and other reporters were the source of the identity of "Wilson's Wife" as CIA NOC. Remember we have already been through this defense as PR over the past couple of years -- Wilson's wife scrubbed floors at CIA, she was a lowly secretary, an apprentise in the Directorate of Intelligence -- she ran the travel bureau -- defenses that would all exclude her identity as a NOC. I suspect that is what transpired today, so Fitzgerald's positive case can now emerge.

Following a link from Laura Rozen it looks like Fitzgerald has another target of interest (or maybe two). I gather this was a minor line out from his Ryan case (that just started trial), but he interveaned in the case against Conrad Black and Hollinger International, flipped the current Publixher of the Sun Times, and nailed two members of Hollinger's board -- Richard Perle and Henry Kissinger. Apparently the Sun Times Publisher has taken a plea agreement (two years in Jail) and will be a witness against Perle. Kissinger's consultancy firm has apparently paid a very large fine (more than a million) but he is still a potential target.

If anywhere near correct, we will need to build extra jails. Anyhow the conjoining of these narratives is fascinating -- and by the way, Conrad Black is a piece of work himself. I guess it is Lord Black -- he gave up his Canadian Citizenship so he could sit in the House of Lords in London.


Gravatar David Corn works for Pajamas Media.

Need I say more?


Gravatar Can we assume that the administration is already ahead of us on where the grand jury is going? If so, then is it not possible that they figure they might need the Supreme Court firmly on their side? Suppose indictments are handed out and suppose Bush is named an unindicted co-conspirator? And then Bush tries to pardon all his indicted henchmen? Kids, can you spell constitutional crisis?

And who would sit in judgment? Why, I think the SCOTUS.

Which is now, with Roberts as Chief Justice, firmly in Bush's court.

Suppose, however, that Judith Miller had testified BEFORE the confirmation and indictments came down suddenly and queered the confirmation? Why, the SCOTUS, which would be the final arbiter in any constitutional crisis, would be at best deadlocked 4-4.

So, maybe the timing of Judy's folding her hand is NOT coincidence. I can imagine her telling Bolton, "I will stay til you guys get the Court under control--NOT ONE DAY LONGER."

Don't blithely assume coincidence in the timing. Roberts in, Judy out.


Gravatar Wow...I think unirealist nailed that one...you've got to hand it to the Right, they are usually two or three steps ahead. It's too bad that their modus operandi is invariably in the pursuit of self-serving power, because that kind of "stratergizing" could actually accomplish things if applied positively.


Gravatar I don't see why Black would have had to give up Canadian citizenship to sit in the Lords. American I could understand, but I thought Commonwealth countries would be okay. I certainly think he would need to take British citizenship, but that's not the same thing as giving another country's citizenship up.

Ah, I see from this article that it was the Canadian government that stood in his way. That makes more sense, it's like the way an American is prohibited by American law, not British, from being a peer. Presumably the Canadian government can give its assent, but chose not to.


Gravatar Prime Minister Chretien barred Black from accepting the peerage, citing the Nickle Resolution of 1919. Its tangled history is the subject of a Wikipedia article, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Nic...ckle_Resolution


Gravatar She wasn't after the waiver!

She secured 'narrow testimony' from Fitzgerald. So she'll ONLY be questioned about ONE source -- when more than likely, there's several of them. Libby is the sterile, expendable one.

I'm sure the sources central to manufacturing WMD evidence, and those more vulnerable, critical, and corrupt -- will not be pursued.

Note that it gives Fitzgerald an out and secures Bush & Co. from maximum devastation.


Gravatar If you watch her statement, she repeatedly and explicitly says that a guarantee of 'narrow testimony' from Fitzgerald was extremely important.

Plain as day.

So she's still hiding the truth, and negotiated a binding agreement that she would not be compelled to give forth the true dirt on other sources.

So: Cooper sez its Libby; folks & Miller get that waiver from Libby -- everyone ignores the 'narrow testimony' aspect.

What bright boys and girls we have in the media.


Gravatar I think as big and dramatic as a lot of this sounds it is crumbs compared to an underlying story. PNAC features big in that story followed by 9/11. Taboos around 9/11 are breaking up ever so slowly. Newsday (and today's NY Times) nudged things along a bit:
http://www.newsday.com/news/ loca...0,4495527.story


Gravatar I think as big and dramatic as a lot of this sounds it is crumbs compared to an underlying story. PNAC features big in that story followed by 9/11. Taboos around 9/11 are breaking up ever so slowly. Newsday (and today's NY Times) nudged things along a bit:
http://www.newsday.com/news/ loca...0,4495527.story


Gravatar There seems to be a bit of a quibble about the breadth of Millers testimony. She says limited to source while prosecutors say limited to Plame investigation.
Truth is, the members of the grand jury can ask her anything they bloody well want to.


Gravatar speaking of bigger jails, AfterDowningStreet.org has a new campaign to get the polling companies to ask about impeachment.


Gravatar Thought you all should know, the Washington Post is reporting that a biological weapon was released in DC on the day of the Anti War Rally... Here's part of the story.


"In nature, the bacteria are found in rodents and small animals, and "the working hypothesis" is that something in the environment got stirred up, D.C. Public Health Director Gregg A. Pane said. But he said it was puzzling that the finding was from a day when the Mall was packed with people. "Why that day? That's what is not explained," Pane said. "It was just this 24-hour period and none since."

Tularemia is not spread from person to person. It can be contracted by direct contact with the bacteria that cause it -- by swallowing them or, if they have been suspended in air, through inhalation. The germ that causes tularemia is considered a biohazard because it is highly infectious and was tested in the 1960s by the United States as a biological weapon. The disease is treatable with antibiotics but, if left untreated, can be fatal.

More than a half-dozen sensors operating from 10 a.m. Saturday to 10 a.m. Sunday -- at sites including the Lincoln Memorial, Fort McNair and Judiciary Square -- detected the bacteria, Pane said he was told. He said the CDC expected to notify hospitals nationwide as a precaution because so many people came from out of town to the Mall last weekend. Similarly, he said, he expected area health officials to watch for symptoms into next week.

Authorities recommend that people who visited the Mall between 10 a.m. Sept. 24 and 10 a.m. Sept. 25 should see a physician if they experience symptoms.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp...5093001775.html


Gravatar Scooter Libby's letter to Judith Miller is clearly code for something - I don't know what. I do know that there is no way in heaven or hell that this is a sincere paragraph.

"You went into jail in the summer. It is fall now. You will have stories to cover—Iraqi elections and suicide bombers, biological threats and the Iranian nuclear program. Out West, where you vacation, the aspens will already be turning. They turn in clusters, because their roots connect them. Come back to work—-and life. Until then, you will remain in my thoughts and prayers.”

"Come back to work - and life." WTF? I'm staggered by this letter, and can't believe we have a government that communicates like this. This letter is not what it seems, though I cannot tell you what it.


Gravatar Lorelynn, great catch! Are there any codebreakers out there?

One passage caught my eye especially, about the "aspens turning...in clusters because their roots connect them..."

"Turning", as in turning the loyalty of someone? And "their roots connect them..." can refer to how all the participants in the Niger/WMD/Plame nexus are connected.

A warning that people are squealing to the DA, going down like dominoes?

How about the "It is fall now" statement? Is he advising the the Bush Administration is about to "fall", or is he warning her that a planned autumn event is about to begin? Such as an attack on Iran? Or a nuclear/biological attack here in the USA?


Gravatar Well said, Samela.
(Did your grandmother call you that?


Gravatar Please note that I'm not advocating that what I'll write below is THE TRUTH. It's simply meant as suggestive material to think about and either dismiss or ponder.....

[this all relates to the timing of Rehnquist's death and the Plame probe]

Pope John Paul II who recently died was not the first choice of The Vatican. Another man had been chosen and already installed as Pope when he mysteriously died when he'd been thought to have been healthy enough to serve for years and years (potential popes' health is one criterion investigated before voting).

Then suddenly The Vatican needs another choice and you get a Polish anticommunist who'll speak out against the Soviet bloc and thereby aid CIA director Bill Casey's and Reagan's worldwide pro-corporate agenda. The rest is history. The death of the Pope prior to John Paul II is mystery. You decide. (and you thought that the poisoning of popes was mere medieval history)

Now we have an ill William Rehnquist deteriorating much more quickly than believed would be the case and you get a John Roberts in the nick of time? What do you think? After all, Republican (and Democratic) interests have used assassination as policy for years and years, abroad to be sure, and most probably at home as well.

You decide. WWWS? What Would Wellstone Say?


Gravatar I guess it is Lord Black -- he gave up his Canadian Citizenship so he could sit in the House of Lords in London.

Here in Canada he's known as "Lord Tubby". Personally, I prefer "Lord Fat Bastard".

I was never a supporter of former Liberal Prime Minister Jean Chretien, but the decision not to allow Black to keep his citizenship if he took a peerage is starting to look almost more wonderful than his other wonderful decision to decline involvement in the Iraq war.


Gravatar Anybody seen anything about this "love note" in the MSM.

That is truely weird.........such a poetic guy that Libby.


Gravatar Outing Valerie Plame is the tape on the Watergate doors.

Honestly, who cares about the He said, She said? We are way too caught up in detail on this one, missing the big picture....


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