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well, to tell u the main reason y i am leaving this comment. is just to say that if u had the nurve to say wat u r saying infront of any muslim person to his face. u would not need to have this page on!
which means thee u r just a stupid person. and i really wish that i knew where u live or how u look like so i could beat u up!
thanx.
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31.Jan.06 - 0:39 | #
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u r so ahppy now,but in the day of judgement,enshalla,i will see u crying more than everyone in the world.this day is coming soon.and i wish u the sadness all ur life.muhammad is the wonderful man in the history,but coz u r just a stupid and u didnt read his story how much he was perfect man,and not like u in europe,just a silly people,u care only about sex,even with ur mom.hahahahahah
lara |
31.Jan.06 - 0:48 | #
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im not muslim,im cristian,but i know very well how much the muslim people r great.and u r just a stupid man.i feel sorry for u,coz u dont know nothing,u dont have any education about the great profet muhammed.i hate denmark and all europe because u r just a very fucking people
nathalia |
31.Jan.06 - 0:53 | #
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I really don't understand why you made this website. Are you trying to express your hate towards muslims, are you trying to express your hate towards Islam, or are you just trying to be funny. I was just curious. If it is because you hate Muslims, then could you please explain why?
A curious American
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31.Jan.06 - 0:59 | #
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I AM REALLY SORRY TO SEE ALL THIS AND THERE IS NOTHING TO BE PROUD ON THAT AS THIS IS REALLY SEEMS TO BE AS HOW SMALL U R IN UR THINKING.... BY UR SAYING AND TRYING TO BE FUNNY NOTHING IS GOING TO CHANGE... MUHAMMAD (PEACE BE ON HIM) IS A GREAT PROPHET ANS WILL REMAIN BUT U JUST SHOWED WHERE U BELONG TOO... A NASTY AND DUMB THINKING GROUP OF PPL BECAUSE ITS NOT ONLY U ITS IN UR GENES TO EXPLOITS THE OTHER RELIGIONS..... U R PROUD ON IT TODAY.. BUT WILL NOT ON THE DAY OF JUDGEMENT ... THE PERSON LIKE U DOES NOT BELIEVE IN THE DAY OF JUDGMENT IT IS SHOWN BUT THEN THE PUNISHMENT THERE U CANT IMAGINE AND ITS MY PRAYER TO ALLAH ALMIGHTY THAT HE GIVE ME THE CHANCE TO SEE U GET PUNISHED AND THEN I COME TO U AND ASK U ABT HOW FUNNY IS THIS ..... BECAUSE AS A MUSLIM I M TAUGHT BY MY ALLAH AND MY GREAT PROPHET THAT NEVER ABUSE EVEN UR ENEMIES SO I WILL ABID BY THAT.... I WISH U STILL UNDERSTAND THAT U R WRONG AND TRY TO FEEL BAD AND SORRY.... BECAUSE U CAN ONLY DO IT ON THE INTERNET AS ITS A FREE MEDIUM OF EXPRESSION... AND U KNOW IT U CANT SAY IT IN FRONT OF A MUSLIM NOT EVEN A WORD... AND IF U R REALLY SO PROUD TRY TO SAY IT INFRONT OF A MUSLIM AND SEE THE CONSEQUENCES AND MAY BE U R LAUGHING READING MY COMMENTS BUT FROM TODAY IN ALL MY DUAS FROM ALLAH I WILL PRAY THAT U GET THE WORST DEATH THAT IS ROLE MODEL FOR PPL WHO THINK THAT THEY ARE VERY SMART BUT ARE THE WROST MISTAKE DONE BY THERE PARENTS..... ALLAH'S CRUSE ON YOU....
GREAT PROPHET (MUHAMMMAD'S) FO |
31.Jan.06 - 3:18 | #
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Amazing isn't it , all those threats by the previous poster's kind of makes your point .
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31.Jan.06 - 3:40 | #
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Shame on you and the way u use ur talent if we can call it so, I'm also an artist and a very well known in my field and i believe I can do much more better than you do, because I can use my tools for a better purpose, drawing what may be related to peace and love for all human kinds, no matter what religion they follow, never hold a pen to make fun of Muhammed or jesus or any other prophet, I bet that you know nothing about islam nor Muhammed (PBUH) nor muslims and what prevents us from doing same shit like urs is our belief in all the prophets sent by God and our belief in peace and that every one is free to choose the way he wants to live and the religion he wants to follow and I bet if u found one muslim doing same silly stuff like u do, any how I'm just a muslim who reminds u of the judgment day and u'll remember all these words this day, I'm sure that u r an unbeliever cause no body ever, who follows any religion that believes in God would do any of what u feel proud of and think that ppl will HAHAHA when they see it.
Lets c who will laugh at the end
A good person, not like u |
31.Jan.06 - 3:54 | #
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I just wanted to leave a post that was spelled correctly. There are three letters in the word "you". Three.
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31.Jan.06 - 4:01 | #
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C'mon y'all. Aren't the muslims supposed to be peaceful? Thats what I hear in church all the time (I'm Baptist). I thought that only a few of the muslims were reaking havoc on the world by being violent towards everyone. While I don't know much about Islaam, I've always tried to treat Muslims the same as I do anyone else, but y'all are making me wonder whether its worth it. If anyone makes fun of Jesus then I just sadly smile and tell them that He still loves them and wants them in Heaven with Him despite what they've just done (although they must accept Jesus's free gift of salvation through a simple prayer of forgivness and asking to be saved from Hell), and procede to tell them what I just typed. If they reject it, so be it. They were warned, but I don't WANT them to go to Hell. I want them to go to Heaven anyway and continue to try and convince them whenever I can without being annoying, violent, or mean. Don't be vengeful and insulting, be peacefully persistant.
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31.Jan.06 - 4:26 | #
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By the way, I apologize for any mispellings due to the post previous to my first one. lol
One kool guy (lol) |
31.Jan.06 - 4:30 | #
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Bravo to you for supporting free speech. And shame on those who oppose free speech. It doesn't mean that only views you accept should be allowed. And for those who believe in Islam, if you are secure in your faith, you should only feel pity for someone who doesn't understand it. However, can you honestly tell me you tolerate other religions? I believe that your religion denigrates all others and that you display TOTAL INTOLERANCE to other believers--whom you call unbelievers. Sorry, but I don't accept that yours is a superior religion to mine.
Susanna |
31.Jan.06 - 4:35 | #
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I truly support the reproduction of the cartoons for all to view and draw their own conclusions. I do not find them severely offensive.
J |
31.Jan.06 - 5:21 | #
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And I agree with the comments of 'one kool guy'
J |
31.Jan.06 - 5:22 | #
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BRAVO!! Finally somebody who recognizes some of the muslim threath to the world! The muslims demand their share of respect from us. If a few muslims kill a score of "non-believers" we may not blame all muslims for this. They also demand respect for their culture. On the other side if one person or one newspaper says, writes, or prints something, the muslims don't like, THEY blame it on all people they can possibly relate to this. First they wanted to kill a guy named Shalomon Rusdie. unfortunately he was a mulim himself so they could not punish all people associated with him. Apparently this would have caused mass suicide under all muslims. Now it is a newspaper. And lo and behold it is published in a non muslim nation. Kill all Danes is their new slogan. I despice all muslims for their treacherous nature. Boycott all muslims as far as you can is my answer to this new muslim threath. MuhammedX
muhammed mujahedien |
31.Jan.06 - 5:29 | #
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Fantastic. Truly great and amazing.
Thank you for posting these cartoons.
Even better is the reaction of muslims.
Truly immature.
Fatwa George |
31.Jan.06 - 5:35 | #
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GILA...!!
kurt |
31.Jan.06 - 5:39 | #
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Gila? What does that mean??
One kool guy (lol) |
31.Jan.06 - 5:53 | #
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What is next? Holy Jihad against Denmark? And you personally?
Anyway, responces are funnier than cartoons themselves 
gene |
31.Jan.06 - 5:59 | #
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What do you think you are?How dare you are?We are triying to understand each other but look at your self!!!! Where is your respect?Where is the human rights?I am sorry but the real barbar is you.You deserv the shot!!!!
Volkan Kinoglu |
31.Jan.06 - 6:04 | #
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More free speech, less racist religious nutbars
Sum Yung Guy |
31.Jan.06 - 6:23 | #
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You're an idiot. I see Danmark is backpedaling faster than it took them to publish these cartoons. That boycot will hurt and you know I am a liberal, two time war veteran of US Army but also I am a muslim and from now on anything made in Danmark or brining money to Danmark is not welcomed in my house.
GI Joe |
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31.Jan.06 - 6:31 | #
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...thanks
Free speech advocate |
31.Jan.06 - 6:34 | #
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Of corse Denmark's backpedalling because some (not all) Muslims are threatening to kill, not just anyone Danish, but anyone Nordic (Norwegians, Swedes, and Finnish). I don't think that banning of the Danish products alone is enough to do that. I'm not saying I support the cartoons by the way. I find them very stupid and immature, but I find the many Muslim's reactions much worse than immature. I find them offensive for the God I serve because a lot of their threats involve the sin of MURDER. Murder's wrong in my book no matter what the circumstances.
One kool guy (lol) |
31.Jan.06 - 6:39 | #
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GILA = Crazy.
Its a malay word.
Kurt, are you from Malaysia?
superamoeba |
31.Jan.06 - 7:00 | #
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GILA = Crazy or Mad
superamoeba |
31.Jan.06 - 7:01 | #
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Thanks for the cure of curiosity, superamoeba...
One kool guy (lol) |
31.Jan.06 - 7:05 | #
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Alrighty, everyone, I'm done w/ homework and exercise (I've been doing that while I was watching this place) and I'm finally off to bed. Peace...no really...peace, don't hate.
One kool guy (lol) |
31.Jan.06 - 7:08 | #
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probably its your destiny and it is..... face it now
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31.Jan.06 - 7:11 | #
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Have a good sleep one kool guy. I only wish that we could wake up to a better world. More than half of the world does not get enough to eat and we have people talking about killing each other over some cartoons (which some will find very offensive but if Allah/God/The Almighty finds it really offensive, let the offenders be punished in the afterlife)
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31.Jan.06 - 7:13 | #
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I feel that the what the danish new has published is not eh cartons of Prophet Mohamed but that of the illigmate father of Christ who the cristians claim was born of virgin
Ajay |
31.Jan.06 - 7:45 | #
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Stupid ! u have mess with wrong ones. u play with allah & his prophet, u have litterly ruined your life.
Muhammad Umer Iqbal |
31.Jan.06 - 7:46 | #
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you are fucking stupid
sulu |
31.Jan.06 - 7:48 | #
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Somehow, all comments sections generally degenerate to name calling and unpleasant statements.
superamoeba |
31.Jan.06 - 8:17 | #
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NO GOD BUT ALLAH MOHAMMED IS THE PROPHET OF ALLAH PBUH
MUSLIM |
31.Jan.06 - 8:17 | #
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Muhammad Umer Iqbal, where are you from?
Orang Melayu ke?
superamoeba |
31.Jan.06 - 8:18 | #
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Dear Muslims,
you ask for respect - so please respect us: respect the West's human right of free speech. And if you have come to the West to partake of the West's material wealth, just know that this wealth is based upon free speech. This right to free speech includes being allowed to make fun of religion. If you do not want that, please stay home, and please do not read our newspapers, do not watch our TV, and you will not be offended. But do not come into our countries to tell us what to do or how to behave. We have our history and our traditions, just as you do, and we are proud of it. That does not mean that everything in the industrialized West is good, far from it. However, non-censorship, including thoughts about religion, is one of the fundamentals of Western life that cannot be given up without us giving up ourselves. You cannot expect this of us. Go in Peace - but also: Leave us in Peace.
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31.Jan.06 - 8:36 | #
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An extract From his Blog..... looks like he knows what an insult mean to some one....this is interesting... can any one tell me the type of psyche of a person who loves and feel happiness in defaming / insulting others..i think there is one... read this.
"I have debated taking down my cartoon page a few times because I accept that many Muslims do find the cartoons offensive but I'm not going to because it seems to be doing an excellent job of showing whether or not even the sorts of educated Muslims who have access to the Internet (and would therefore one assumes be more understanding) actually meet the stereotype above or not. I am pleased to say that many comments on this blog in numerous threads are positive but there are a significant number (as well as private emails) which are crudely insulting and threatening."
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31.Jan.06 - 8:38 | #
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u bloody fuckers how cud u do dis ...
those u doo dis da son's of bitches and sons shits and no one. n those who have done bee ready to go to hell.
mohammed javeed ally |
31.Jan.06 - 8:40 | #
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I am sympathetic to Islam, I do not agree with people who say Muslims are violent or don't want free speech but I am having a hard time understanding the problem here and I would like to know what, from the Islamic perspective is so terribly racist or anti-Muslim about the cartoons. If, please, a Muslim comment writer could explain that, with peace in your heart that would be appreciated.
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31.Jan.06 - 8:45 | #
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I am a Muslim and Islam has told me not to say bad words for gods of other religions otherwise other people would say bad words about the (one) God.
Out of your free will you have expressed yourself by making cartoons of Holy Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). This has resulted in bad feelings among muslims. Although you are free to say whatever you like but as a Muslim I would request you not to make fun of Holy Prophet and Islam.
Muslims appear violent because they are at the receiving end of all major conflicts in the world today i.e. Palestine, Iraq, Afghanistan, Kashmir etc.
This is not to say that their response is justified .. this only tells the reason of violent response.
Please promote love, understanding and peaceful coexistence and don't promote hatred, mis understanding and clash.
Best regards,
Adeeb Ashraf (Pakistan)
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31.Jan.06 - 8:49 | #
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Its not about anti-muslim or racist, its about hurting some one's true feelings..
its about the way to communicate...
we all as human needs to improve ..bcz there is many ways to express.... and every way brings its consequences...we can say the same thing keeping in mind other's inherit philosophy so that we are able to convey our perspective as well as to not hurt others..
thats where we feel that the methodology is so insulting and should not be adopted in any case
One should fullfill the objective not the way to directly hit others .....
try to avoid direct confrontation is a key ..
if most of WEST doesn't know it then probably we need to sit back and look at all our past experiences, history and teachings.. hope this will help you to understand the exact situation
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31.Jan.06 - 8:54 | #
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To add more... just imagine to say anything any time to your boss..
what kind of consequences it will bring in your life.. ?
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31.Jan.06 - 9:01 | #
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I couldn't imagine whats the point of the cartonist? Lets try to define the meaning and boundaries of freedom, does freedom mean that u slap on someone's face and if he cries and complains someone to stop you from doing this then this is against your freedom? can anyone of us imagine about a freedom which is not bounded by any rules? does any such thing exist? Now if you say "no" then wouldn't it that blasphemy is even a worst offense then hitting someone physically.
Do you think that you are free to do anything to examine the reaction of the people? Are you free to use them as your subject of experiment? All the people in the world do not share exactly the same values and morals. May be according to the morals of a particular group blasphemy is the worst thing that anyone can do to them, on the other hand for another group such an act is not even considered noticeable. So you cannot give the example of one group's behaviour towards a certain offence as an examplry act for another group, while both have different moral and religius values.
Surely I am in the favour of logical and reasonable reaction to any offense, but you cannot negate the very strong existance of emotions in all the people in the world. As you have shown your absurd and irrational behaviour while doing the blasphemy, it is very much natural to expect the same kind of behaviour from other people.
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31.Jan.06 - 9:05 | #
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Life's hard. I try to be open-minded and tolerant but the older I get and the more I see I just hate all the intolerant idiots in the world even more. I hate myself for that and want you to vanish of this earth and leave me in peace.
E. Empire |
31.Jan.06 - 9:13 | #
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It's freedom of speech, plain and simple. There are many cartoons, news broadcasts and comments made that I don't agree with, but it doesn't send me out burning flags, cursing a country or threatening violence. If people are immature enough to threaten someone who challenges what they think then they are obviously not secure in what they believe. Personally I find some of the cartoons hilarious! Others I find retarded. So what, who cares. If you don't like them then turn the page, flip the channel or WTF ever! Just get over it and move on. BTW--US Army veteran, TEXAN and proud AMERICAN!!
Hook 'em Horns |
31.Jan.06 - 9:22 | #
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May God forgive you and show u the right path.
i welcome you all to embrace islam and know more about your God and how to be grateful him and serve him.
Your well wisher |
31.Jan.06 - 9:24 | #
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May God forgive you and show u the right path.
i welcome you all to embrace islam and know more about your God and how to be grateful him and serve him.
Your well wisher |
31.Jan.06 - 9:24 | #
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Religious fanaticism is for retards. If your prophet would be alive today he might tell you that.
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31.Jan.06 - 9:37 | #
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Hmmm, if there really is such a thing as hell or judgement day or punishment or whatever coming to all of us non-believers then why all this hostility now?
Shouldn't you leave it to your God to judge us, surely the one and only knows best what to do with us?
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31.Jan.06 - 9:47 | #
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@ Hook 'em Horns
Well thats a lie.. i dont agree if there will be cartoons showing explicit material about your mother, wife or any other very dear one.. you will remain very calm and cool
yes theoratically you may in certain conditions ...but most of the time majority of people will not tolerate that kind of behaviour from any one...
if you think you are so confident.. ask you close collegue to put certain cartoon about those dear ones ever where in your office and home and streats and let other people know that you are a TRUE believer of freedom of speach
hope that makes some point
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31.Jan.06 - 9:47 | #
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Hello! the man who think have done a great thing.i have a question "do you know what is islam and its teaching"? Just try to learn quater or less than that. i guess you will be sorry. A message to the world blame our people but dont blame our islam and our prophet.There are bad people in all religion then why only islam?
shamim(a proud muslim with lot |
31.Jan.06 - 10:02 | #
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Hi All,
Have you ever typed in "fun of jesus", "funny jezus" or "sneering jesus" in google?
Yhousands of hits, from both moslim and non moslim locations. Did you know there is an entire Amusement park that makes fun of jezus? No you didn't? Well maybe that is because the cristian people didn't make a big deal out of it and didn't start randomly (threaten to) killing moslim WHO HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT!
I'm desperate to believe that there are only a few percent of moslim extremist who only know violence as solution. (Although the posts here don't represent my theory.)
Last thing I wish to say is:
I admire your post Adeeb Ashraf, it is exactly how i see it!
Best Regards,
K. Wekker
Kook Wekker |
31.Jan.06 - 10:05 | #
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It appears clear to me: if it is OK to ridicule - as is endlessly done - Jesus Christ, then it is OK to ridicule the Prophet. This attack by Muslims against Danes and other Nordic people is a exactly what happens when a backward, ultra-rightwing Medieval religion like Islam finds itself confronted with the modern world, a world it despises and wants to destroy.
Jyllands-Posten has turned cowardly and backed off their own statements regarding freedom of expression because they are scared. Salman Rushdie continues to attack the reactionary Islamists even though a fatwa was issued against him by the most powerful Muslim of his time, Ayatollah Komeini of Iran. Where is the backbone of the Western press? Turned to jelly by a lunatic mass of ignorant fundamentalists. These artists were brave to have drawn their cartoons; now the paper that printed them is terrified of the reaction from the suicide bombers and other militant Islamists who have been threatening the destruction of the West for hundreds of years. Now that they are finding ways to enter the Western centers and murder innocent people, the Islamists find the very softness they have said all along is at the heart of the West.
If anyone still needs proof of the violent and brutal ways of modern (and ancient, for that matter) Muslims, just look at the threats by these same Muslim or Muslim-sympathisers against the owner of this blog.
Stand by your convictions. You are the one who is courageous in this increasingly cowardly part of the world. It is interesting that one man will do what a whole industry - the press - will not: stand up for the basic principles of freedom and liberty that made the West what it is today.
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31.Jan.06 - 10:36 | #
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Kook Wekker has said it exactly. People need to stop feeling they need to apologise to Muslim extremists. They do not. Let them apologise for their treatment of Christians, Jews, Buddhists and Hindus first. Then we will talk about apologising to them.
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31.Jan.06 - 10:39 | #
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Thank you for the page. I was curious about the cartoons, having seen them what is the fuss about? How dare Muslims expect us to curtail our hard-won freedom of speech to bow-down before the nonsensical religion started by an iteinerant shepherd 1600 years ago. Please continue to let your site shine out as a mark of free-speech in our world.
Paul-B |
31.Jan.06 - 10:44 | #
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We have now started a Norwegian action to buy Danish goods. Excerpts from our English page:
The word "ADVAR" means "warn" in Norwegian, and is an acronym for "Aksjonen for Danske Varer", meaning "Action for Danish Goods".
Our purpose is to make Norwegians buy Danish goods, as an action of solidarity with Denmark, which is currently being targeted for a boycott by several Islamic countries.
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In addition to buying Danish goods, we encourage people to write to Jyllandsposten to support their editorial stance, and to the Danish government to express their support for the Danish Prime Minister, Mr Anders Fogh-Rasmussen.
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We also try to encourage the Norwegian Government to take a strong, vocal stand in support of Denmark.
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ADVAR has no political or religious affiliation, and we are not supported (financially or otherwise) by any public or private institutions, organizations or persons. We are simply a group of people concerned with protecting freedom of speech & secular democracy.
Due to concern for our personal safety, we have chosen to remain anonymous for now.
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Please help spread the word that we're not all spineless wusses up here. Visit our page, follow our links and email your support to the Danes and your concern to the Norwegian government!
ADVAR |
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31.Jan.06 - 11:13 | #
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Paul being an elightened one i would recommend you to start you own religion..
if you think you are unable to do so, please ask some one else who you think is more suitable
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31.Jan.06 - 11:13 | #
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Inna lillahi vainna ilaihi raajiooon. Danish /Norvegiean will defenitely pay heavily for this foolish act.
Rafeed Ahmed |
31.Jan.06 - 11:34 | #
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I would like to ask ADVAR what exactly is freedom of speech............
to say anything to anyone at any time in any circumstances?
FOS |
31.Jan.06 - 11:47 | #
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I am concerned to know the exact boundaries of Freedom of Speech from all the persons who are supporting it. I think the unconditional supporters of this Freedom should analyze if they are actually misusing the term. I have already posted the questions in my previous comment but haven't got the answers. Another person (who has anonymously posted comment on 31.Jan.06 - 9:47) asked the similar questions though I don't agree the way he is putting up the questions. Can any one give a clear explanation to these issues? I have also explained that different people having different moral and religius values cannot be held as an example to each other, So if christians do not protest against the blasphemy then it doesn't imply that all other religions should also act in the same manner. By the way I believe that Islam doesn't allow muslims to support blasphemy against any other religion. So if even if any muslim is doing such act, then its not wise to condemn Islam for that, rather he is committing a sin and should be punished for that.
I reiterate that I strongly support the reasonable logical and non-emotional way of dealing all the matters. So if the concept of unconditional freedom of speech is reasonable and logical enough then I will not only support it myself but also try to convince people around me to support it.
Ali Raza Zaidi |
31.Jan.06 - 11:52 | #
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Try to explore the ISLAM, then I am sure you will start RESPECT of
HOLY PROPHET MUHAMMAD (PEACE BE UPON HIM).
Read book HOLY QURAN to OPEN your CLOSED MIND.
I hope you will become a GOOD MUSLIM by exploring the ISLAM.
MUSLIM |
31.Jan.06 - 12:12 | #
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Dear Ali Raza Zaidi,
I have the feeling you're also referring to my previous post. I fully agree with your opinion that it doesn't imply that all other religions should also act in the same manner like the Christians. And I never said that the moslim community should just ignore it. I fully understand that there is a lot of objection against these pictures but it is the way how these objections are denoted that I disapprove. Actually it is strange, because why shouldn't moslim be entitled to say they are going to kill Danish people -> freedom of speech? The reason why I disapprove has to do with the fact that there is a difference between freedom of speech and freedom of action! History shows us that actions are added to these words, and that is what bothers me. I'm not speaking about all moslims here but just a few percent of them!
I read that aid organizations are spending a lot of money getting there people away for the area ASAP! Aid organizations are there to AID the needing people. The money should go to help them not to prevent the help (getting the people away)! It is fine to have Criticism, in fact I don’t even think the pictures are funny at all, but express your criticism in words not in actions/threats. Freedom of speech is part of a much more important aspect namely freedom in general. I assume freedom is also important in the moslim community! By threatening a victim you violate this aspect for the victim (to feel safe). Insults are horrible and, unless you admit they are true, worthless!
To summon up: I'm not saying moslim community should not be offended, or should not object! But should handle this in a way that is decent for all people of all religions! I admit this is vague but if everything would be clear the world would be a much better place!
Best regards,
Kook Wekker |
31.Jan.06 - 13:14 | #
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Kook Would you like to describe why and with what grounds freedom of action is different than the freedom of speach please..........
thanks
FOS |
31.Jan.06 - 13:22 | #
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Dear friends (of every religious beliefs)
Please think of all the Muslims living in Denmark, Norway, Sweden and Finland - a number of more than 500.000 persons. They are all escaped from awful Islamic regimes in Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia among many others - and they are now treated well, with respect in Scandinavia, are all paid a social benifit of more than 1.200 US$ EACH person per month + a decent place to stay, education and school for their many children.
Are they now on their way back home to their Islamic regimes - or do they still have a shelter (AND RESPECT) in a domocratic world.
I don't think so, I'm sorry.
Hans Kristofersen
Editor
Hans Kristoffersen |
31.Jan.06 - 13:40 | #
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I am an Iranian and I think your cartoons are really great. Thanks for your braveness.
The muslims want to scare the rest of the world so they never dare to say anything against their fanatic beliefs.
Great job and all the best...
Alireza |
31.Jan.06 - 13:48 | #
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First of all i invite you to read about Islam.I think a man like u who has a brain ,should think deeply ....who is he? what is his role in this life?
You should scratch your mind and think why do muslims believe and respect the whole prophets like Moses Jesus Mohammad (PBUT)? AND u r not.I advise u to read more about islam and u will find the truth that most of non muslms are looking for.
We are not terrorist as jewish tricked u. We are looking for peace and our religion demands us to do that.Mohammad (PBUH)is the greatest man and u should excuse to the God(Allah)and to the Muslim nation before u can't do that.....
abukhalid |
31.Jan.06 - 13:52 | #
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I've seen a hundred important muslims condemning not only Jyllands Posten but also the Danish government on BBC, CNN, and Danish television.
Why on Earth can't these people comprehend that in a true democracy a government has no power over the free press if they abide by the laws?
And the muslims find a few cartoons offensive - in turn
- they've mobbed innocent MUSLIM workers in Danish factories.
- they've burnt Danish flags
- they've threatened Danish aid workers
- they boycot Danish products
etc
That's not offensive? I'd say that's taking the word offensive to a while new level.
Forgotten are the facts that the Danish people have supported third world muslim countries with hundreds of millions of dollars over the years, we have taken in thousands of refugees running from tyrannic muslim countries, and so on and so forth.
My point is: If these reactions seen on television truly represent the muslim society, then the muslim people as a group seem to be blood thirsty, ungrateful, crude people.
Oh, I almost forgot: 
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31.Jan.06 - 13:54 | #
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That smily represents my own personal depiction of Muhammad the Prophet.
Thomas Vedel |
31.Jan.06 - 13:56 | #
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I would like to listen views on my question if any one please put some light on it! thanks
Differance between freedom of speech and freedom of action ?
FOS |
31.Jan.06 - 14:00 | #
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This incident just shows that most Muslims do not understand the concept of freedom let alone free speech. I have seen many cartoons insulting Christians and Jews, fortunately those belivers are not so unforgiving. I believe God is tolerant and loving and does not get insulted by people expressing themselves.
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31.Jan.06 - 14:04 | #
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Freedom of speech means you can say anything you want if it does not involve threats or slandering of a group or a single person.
Freedom of action is some fantasy term that has no hold in reality. I guess the writer means that you can do anything you want if it does not hurt or endanger others. But again I know of no constitutional laws that use the term "freedom of action". Correct me if I'm wrong.
Thomas Vedel |
31.Jan.06 - 14:06 | #
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surely FOS, I understands the confusion!
I guess the confusion is based on the definition "freedom of action". To be honest I don't know, don't even know if "freedom of action" is actually a term let alone that I know the definition. The reason I used it is to distinguish “the freedom to tell what is in your mind, in any way! Doesn’t need to be verbal, can also be by actions like dancing or crying, etc” and the fact that “your free to take any ‘action’ you want”. I can explain my “action” better by using an example:
In this case my opinion is that (although not nice) it is fine to WISH (not threaten) somebody dead; however actually performing the action to kill somebody isn’t fine.
A question for you: hypothetical If I would threaten to kill you (assume I would be able to perform the threat), then you would feel a little bit less safe. Agree?
Now assume this: I would threaten to kill you but at the same time I guarantee you I will not do it (assume I hold my word), then you don’t feel less safe!
Please note that a threat becomes a ‘wish’ if it is known that no corresponding action will be taken. It is probably still not clear but like I said I also don’t know what it might imply or even if it implies anything. But I hope I could make it a little bit more clear what I meant even if the corresponding sentence might be confusing or not correct.
Kook Wekker |
31.Jan.06 - 14:08 | #
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indeed Thomas Vedel you manage to tell what i meant in a single line while I needed an entire paragraph for
Kook Wekker |
31.Jan.06 - 14:12 | #
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So for example if freedome of action is constitutionalized in a certain kind of democracy in any part of this world, will we accept it ?
without having indepth analysis of positive/negative aspects of any term / theory ?
How do defend any law violating personal space of the other.....?
Are we saying we have succedded in establishing the most fundamental moral code in this world...or in other case or ture democracy will do it ?
FOS |
31.Jan.06 - 14:13 | #
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@ Kook
"however actually performing the action to kill somebody isn’t fine. "
Well who defines that ...if it is fine or not....isn't that totaly subjective and society/group dependent...
in any case a real moral code will be to give respect to others values and to have respect in return..what do you think
otherwise its hard to justify one's subjective opinion
FOS |
31.Jan.06 - 14:18 | #
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dear Fos,
you are concentrating yourself to much on a single word. Replace it by any other word or sentence you like and read my description. “Freedom of action” probably doesn’t even exist, it doesn’t need to be! It is a term I used to state my opinion that I believe would be clear enough. Obviously it isn’t!
Kook Wekker |
31.Jan.06 - 14:20 | #
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You are correct, thats what my point relates to that we dont need to concentrate on a single perspective 
First of all if freedom of action doesn't exist, it doesn't justify that it wont.
secondly my point is simple:
In order to create a true peace we have to have check and balances... we cant take an idea and apply it openly whereever we feel it is good.
Everything is in a certain frame of reference and controled by laws depending upon the circumstances...
we all can understand thousands of analogies from science and engineering.
so point is that it is good to express your feelings but do in rome what romen do is a key
if your words are related to a certain group .. try to express it and convey your message in a way it will be accepted
art of communication is another subject we need to learn
FOS |
31.Jan.06 - 14:28 | #
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Freedom of speech means to me that I can express my opinion about anything and anyone. If I disagree with you and believe that Mohammad is not a prophet isn’t it my right to do so whether I insult you or not that is what I believe.
JFJ |
31.Jan.06 - 14:32 | #
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To all who are more interested in TERMS than ground realities... i would recommend following good article from stanford university
http://plato.stanford.edu/entrie...freedom-speech/
FOS |
31.Jan.06 - 14:35 | #
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“Freedom of speech and freedom of action are meaningless without freedom to think. And there is no freedom of thought without doubt.”
Bergen Evans quotes (American Educator and Professor, 1904-197
FOS |
31.Jan.06 - 14:36 | #
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More interesting stuff 
From ENCARTA:
http://encarta.msn.com/encyclope..._(freedom)
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Another one:
http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici...%3E2.0.CO%3B2-
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FOS |
31.Jan.06 - 14:39 | #
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My comment will be that the occidental world communities have lost most of their values and that's why they don't understand the impact of this bad deed on Muslims for whom prophet Muhammed PBUH is very dear. We muslims understand the need for expression liberty but we do make the difference between freedom and chaos. My freedom stops when my fellow's freedom starts.
Possibly if you try to know more about this prophet you would realise the severity of this act. I invite you to visit the following site http://www.muhammad.net/ for your own benefit. Also read the following:
"If greatness of purpose, smallness of means, and astounding results are the three criteria of human genius, who could dare to compare any great man in modern history with Muhammad?" Lamartine, HISTOIRE DE LA TURQUIE, Paris, 1854, Vol. II, pp. 276-277
"My choice of Muhammad to lead the list of the world's most influential persons may surprise some readers and may be questioned by others, but he was the only man in history who was supremely successful on both the religious and secular level." Michael H. Hart, THE 100: A RANKING OF THE MOST INFLUENTIAL PERSONS IN HISTORY, New York: Hart Publishing Company, Inc., 1978, p. 33
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31.Jan.06 - 14:39 | #
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I would again assert that its good to have a subjective opinion like JFJ expressed, but its also good to learn, study, explore knowledge around us to have a rational opinion.
All in favors of Freedom of Speach are requested to go through standford article...
I hope there will be a lot more material available on net if we want to study it
Regardless of religion/creed/sect/nation/group ..if we believe in peace and want to establish it..we have to carefully think and act
whoever is doing it based on instincts and not based on intllect may not get the desired results
cheers
FOS |
31.Jan.06 - 14:49 | #
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Pure form of democracy having pure freedome of speach also seams fantasy
http://www.cdt.org/speech/
FOS |
31.Jan.06 - 14:53 | #
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Ohh my i just wished to leave a single comment but I feel I'm getting pulled into a discussion (probably my own fault).
Fos I know what you mean great way to philosophy the drawback is it mostly results in endless discussions. I don’t want to get involved into that but if anybody else feels to discuss; feel free to go ahead.
I assumed it is worldwide accepted it is NOT fine to kill innocent people, if you (guess not) or other people think otherwise I hope I never meet those persons to save my own life. Therefore I used that example because it also related to my previous posts.
For as far as I can read back I never insulted a single person or community. If I did I never meant to!
Although I do have a opinion: It is fine to have criticism but don’t threaten people because of their opinion! Especially if history tells us that threats are carried out! Innocent people are the ones that have to pay for it!
Ps. Without the threats It would have never reached the world press and I would never have seen the drawings.
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31.Jan.06 - 14:55 | #
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I just have spend few minuted on net and have found a huger amount of interesting things
“There are two good things in life freedom of thought and freedom of action”
William Somerset Maugham quotes (English short-story Writer, Novelist and Playwright, 1874-1965)
“The only conception of freedom I can have is that of the prisoner or the individual in the midst of the State. The only one I know is freedom of thought and action.”
Albert Camus quotes (French Novelist, Essayist and Playwright, 1957 Nobel Prize for Literature, 1913-1960)
FOS |
31.Jan.06 - 14:58 | #
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WoW a danish philosopher
How absurd men are! They never use the liberties they have, they demand those they do not have. They have freedom of thought, they demand freedom of speech.”
Soren Kierkegaard quotes (Danish Philosopher, 1813-1855)
FOS |
31.Jan.06 - 15:01 | #
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I agree with you Kook completly, every one should behave rationaly and in a way to not hurt others...thanks
however i would say one thing about your comment
"I assumed it is worldwide accepted it is NOT fine to kill innocent people,"
Its because we all think that will end our lives....just imagine some group of people who believes their faith or believes more valuable to than thier lifes 
so in short we respect each other and should have enought knowledge to rationaly analyse any rumor around us
Thanks again
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31.Jan.06 - 15:04 | #
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First off, the Christians are not the ones who need to lighten up, its the anti-religious zealots who insist on re-writing our countries Constitution to ban anything they feel is offensive, especially religion. Second, I don't need, nor do you need, to get into some Muslim Jackals face to let him or her know what they are and how you or anyone else feels. Muslims of extreme Islam or otherwise are Jackals who know nothing of how a true peaceful religion should be. They murder, maim, kill, and desecrate anyone and anything non-Islamic, and jokingly call it gods will. What a pathetic joke. Well I got news for them Jackals so listen up, your religion sucks, Muhammad sucked, and was nothing more than a murderer and a criminal, and Alah will be condeming you all to hell if he even exists. All of you should be obliterated from the face of this earth, and if you Jackals keep up with your bullshit radical Islam crap thats going to happen soon, and I'm frankly happy for it to come. You pusseys sit there behind your masks and hide in your shit hole Mosques and caves the blow rhetoric out your Islamic Jackal asses while kidmapping innocent unarmed men and women. Oh, yeah your real hard asses there. Your a laughing stock as much as your Muhammad jackass. Then you have the gall to send your secret little tapes to your Jackal news outlet Al-Jazeer, and at the same time call us names and ask why we don't confront you directly. Your a laughing stock towel boys, I'll confrot your sissy Jackal asses any day of the week and cut your godless asses down in a heartbeat. Thats just as soon as YOUR man enough to show YOUR pussey faces. So lets have your so called big hero leaders like Osama and Al-Zawahri crawl out of their caves and go to the TV station or public square directly and make their pathetic plea to the gullable. They will not because they are pathetic chicken shit pusseys just like the rest of you coward Jackals. They can't even get the balls up to commit one of their crimes by themselves, they have to have some poor gullable ass do their dirtywork for them. What was depicted in these cartoon are facts, and everyone has a right to publish and share them as they see fit. So get over it and crawl back into your caves until we obliterate your Jackal asses because believe me that day is coming and sooner than you think. God Bless the USA, Brittain, Spain, Japan and all of the allies in the war against terror. PS: Fuck you and your Fatwah too.
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31.Jan.06 - 15:08 | #
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:D Mr Wonderfull...wow another shot of freedom of speech and ofcourse you must be expecting now a freedom of action kind of thin ...........
I am not getting why are we in favour of hurting others emotions.
FOS |
31.Jan.06 - 15:16 | #
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ANY religion wouldn't look inviting to outsiders when its followers behave in a barbaric manner.
The vast majority of Good Muslims don't appear to be enraged by the 'extremist' muslims (the ones who threaten, hurt or kill people). I haven't seen any Good Muslims stand for Allah/The Prophet by standing against the bad muslims.
However, watch the Good Muslims and the bad muslims join together to break your neck over a few foolish little cartoons. CARTOONS, people!
And they wonder why they are parodied.
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31.Jan.06 - 15:17 | #
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ANY religion wouldn't look inviting to outsiders when its followers behave in a barbaric manner.
The vast majority of Good Muslims don't appear to be enraged by the 'extremist' muslims (the ones who threaten, hurt or kill people). I haven't seen any Good Muslims stand for Allah/The Prophet by standing against the bad muslims.
However, watch the Good Muslims and the bad muslims join together to break your neck over a few foolish little cartoons. CARTOONS, people!
And they wonder why they are parodied.
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31.Jan.06 - 15:17 | #
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Plus it feels that fanaticism is every where either we accept it or not...its just a matter of perspective... our window....and the scenary
FOS |
31.Jan.06 - 15:18 | #
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@ Hazzabrain
"the ones who threaten, hurt or kill people"
Good to point out the definition of bad people

FOS |
31.Jan.06 - 15:21 | #
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Ohh my FOS I expected you would say " who tells you that is bad " just kidding my friend
Kook Wekker |
31.Jan.06 - 15:32 | #
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The press today is an army with carefully organized weapons, the journalists its officers, the readers its soldiers. But, as in every army, the soldier obeys blindly, and the war aims and operating plans change without his knowledge. The reader neither knows nor is supposed to know the purposes for which he is used and the role he is to play. There is no more appalling caricature of freedom of thought. Formerly no one was allowed to think freely; now it is permitted, but no one is capable of it any more. Now people want to think only what they are supposed to want to think, and this they consider freedom.”
Oswald Spengler quotes (German Philosopher of history. 1880-1936)
FOS |
31.Jan.06 - 15:33 | #
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I wish I could find quotes of renowned personalities to defend the fantasy/idea of freedom of speach..
here is another one by POPE
“It is quite unlawful to demand, defend, or to grant unconditional freedom of thought, or speech, of writing or worship, as if these were so many rights given by nature to man”
Pope Leo XIII quotes (Pope from 1878 to 1903, 1810-1903)
FOS |
31.Jan.06 - 15:37 | #
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LOL, Great comment Kook, Thanks 
We already agree with each other...
however
aren't these quotes about freedom of speach interesting ?
FOS |
31.Jan.06 - 15:41 | #
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Those cartoons are funny! So much fuss about a funny cartoon. no wonder these guys still chop heads off and exchange their wives for a couple of camels! Barbarians! I wont be surprised if they start a world war becuse of this!
SF |
31.Jan.06 - 15:42 | #
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LOL 
PEOPLE OF EVERY RELIGION:
Please look at following URL if you haven't ...
http://reopen911.org/news_events.htm
ohh my fellows what If this happens to be true
CATCH THE REAL TERRORISTS
FOS |
31.Jan.06 - 15:47 | #
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BTW above URL is not maintained by Muslims 
FOS |
31.Jan.06 - 15:50 | #
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@FOS, surely however i'm not really a philosopher thus I find it more poetry then substantive!
Kook Wekker |
31.Jan.06 - 15:52 | #
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@ kook
great, and ofcourse those comments were not only for you and myself... those were also for all others (believing in total freedom of speach without limits) to have a broader perspective of things....
FOS |
31.Jan.06 - 15:56 | #
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I agree, Denmark freedom of press..etc..etc.gives you the right to make fun about religion. I am a muslim and I will agree with you if you can can make similar comments and fun of Judiasim or the Virgin Mary. Why don't the newspaper show a jewish person as a pig for example or makes anti-sematic comments or show the "virgin mary" giving a blow job" to a donkey..If you have this freedom to do so, then I will have faith in your so called freedom of press and expression. You know and I know and everyone in Denmark and Oslo know that you will be in Jail and your newspaper will be out of business and you will fly to Israel kissing every Israeli's ass to accept your apology if you make one tenth of the backward cartoons about the prophit mohammad. You see, you asshole denmarks, the issue is NOT about freesom of religion, it is about RESPECT you western PIGS. Your freesom ends when other people's freedom stars. You westerners are so shallow and stupid about the so called freedom. Have some respect or be even handed and make fun of Judiasm or Christianity then and only then I will believe in your shitty freedom of press. Kiss my ass. I will never ever touch any of your products for life even if you kiss my ass. Go to hell
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31.Jan.06 - 16:03 | #
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Great news for certain individuals to earn US$ One million
We just need to prove some thing we assume
http://www.reopen911.org/index.htm
FOS |
31.Jan.06 - 16:07 | #
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First of all Sammy your comment about virgin mary giving a blowjob is really funny I actually had to laugh.
Second, I have to correct you about being put to jail if you would post such thing, that isn't true. But maybe the newspaper will be out of business, that just depends whether or not the reader appreciates such a joke! Maybe many people have left the newspaper because of the drawings.. Yes I believe in freedom of press, and yes I believe certain things are better unsaid, and Yes I don’t agree with everything the press tells me. That is my right I can chose what I want to believe or not. Your comment about virgin mary is funny, I don’t believe it happened but the suggestion is funny!
Kook Wekker |
31.Jan.06 - 16:19 | #
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Sammy I don't believe that you are a Muslim. And also that if you do not believe in Freedom of speech then surely you should be ashamed of your comments. But I strongly feel that you are not a Muslim and rather you are here to defame the Muslims because all Muslims believe that Marry the mother of Chriest is a sacred personality who is admired by God himself in Quran. I strongly condemn you for hurting muslims and christians.
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31.Jan.06 - 16:20 | #
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To the author of this site: Just a message of support, since you've been brave enough to put the cartoons up.
Tom |
31.Jan.06 - 16:58 | #
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شب پره گر وصل آفتاب نخواهد
رونق بازار آفتاب نكاهد
let the moth hate the sun
the sun is always worthy
from iran
آرش |
31.Jan.06 - 17:09 | #
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To all of you who have posted on this site here is a thought. You are now in fact practicing freedom of speech. How can you deny others what you are now doing? From the cartoons about Mohammad to the remarks about the Virgin Mary this is what freedom of speech is all about, differences of opinions and being able to express them.
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31.Jan.06 - 17:16 | #
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@JFJ that is exactly what i tried to express in the last sentence of my previous post!
Isn't it a great gift ?
Kook Wekker |
31.Jan.06 - 17:19 | #
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What all these idiots dont realise is that most Danes have boycotted Jyllands Posten anyway. Most of us agree that the cartoons were beyond stupid, but we still stand by our right to free expression.
The newspaper has apologised. The Prime Minister hasn't and shouldn't, since he has nothing to do with what has been published.
Annemie |
31.Jan.06 - 17:48 | #
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Recent escalations in the crisis spawned by the Danish Jyllands-Posten’s publication of a series of cartoons ridiculing Prophet Muhammad appear, on the surface, to be a test of Europe’s commitment to free speech. Yet the issue is substantially more complex.
All religions should be protected from vilification and ridicule. Restriction on freedom of expression certainly places us on a dangerously slippery slope, but in the long run, a sense of social responsibility governing press freedoms seems bound to promote a healthier atmosphere of respect and mutual toleration, of which the world is greatly in need.
The more chaotic alternative, sure to appeal to some die-hard libertarians, is to declare open season on all religious groups and beliefs. And this is where the trouble arises.
The complication stems from the conviction held by many Muslims, that “press freedom” of the Danish variety would not be tolerated—indeed, would be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law—if Judaism were made the target of such slurs, in a Europe where fears of anti-Semitism have long acted as a sort of moral bludgeon, shaping legislation and molding public norms and taboos.
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A sense of social responsibility governing press freedoms promotes a healthier atmosphere of respect and mutual toleration.
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This conviction, borne out again and again by repeated controversies in Western media circles, leaves Muslims with the unsettling impression that incitement to hatred is tolerable only when Muslims are victimized. True, Christianity often bears more than its fair share of mockery in an increasingly secularized Europe. And European free speech laws are largely the product of an Enlightenment-era outlook on the role and status of religion in society. But while it is unreasonable to expect Europeans to overlook the cultural experiences of several centuries, it is equally unreasonable to expect one billion Muslims to take it for granted that free speech affords others a right to ridicule their religion, while staunchly protecting another religion from the same treatment.
lutherus2005 |
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31.Jan.06 - 17:58 | #
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The kerfuffle over these cartoons proves, as if further proof was needed, that "revealed" religion is a pox upon humanity.
Frisbee |
31.Jan.06 - 18:00 | #
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Ah, excellent cartoons, I especially liked the first one. Next time I would like to see some cartoons about female circumsision in muslim countries, the acid throwing in Pakistan and the other great moslem things you have there.
Oh, and please, do come here and try to kill me. Or at least threaten me. these cartoons aren't blasphemy, since muhammed wasn't god, was he? He was just a man. A man who took a 9 year old girl to his wife and killed probably thousands of people during his conquests.
Finn |
31.Jan.06 - 18:01 | #
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Yes, freedom is indeed a great gift! Living in freedom to me is one of the things in life that is worth protecting. Unfortunately people who have never experienced true freedom cannot comprehend it. Anything that challenges their way of life or thinking to them is a treat. Instead of searching for answers peacefully they resort to violence
JFJ |
31.Jan.06 - 18:05 | #
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To the cartoonists & nonbeleivers:
You are insulting Muslims under the pretext of freedom of speech. Anyhow, Islam is the religion of peace & truth. Mohammad (pbuh)is not founder of Islam but it is Allah (God) who chose him as his messenger for the whole human kind. One should know that we muslims beleive not only in Muhammed (pbuh) but also in Jesus & Mosa (pbut)as they were on the right path. Muslims were not thrown from sky to earth as a pack of people, rather they were people like you who saw the true spirit of Islam & accepted it as a way of their life. At the very begining there were non-beleivers who were enormous in number, money & resources & they left no stone unrolled to creat obstacles & even kill Muhammed, the true messenger of Allah, but truth prevailed & Muslims mushroomed. It is a misconception to attach terrorism with Islam. Muhammed (pbuh) had no army & weapons to terrorise people nor he had money & material resources. He was a poor & honest man. My advice to you is to study & explore Quran & Ahadis & know what
Islam is all about.
Muslim |
31.Jan.06 - 19:10 | #
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dont make anymore suicides, there are no more vergins, mohammed all used them for himself
aisha |
31.Jan.06 - 19:19 | #
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Most interesting!
Jim |
31.Jan.06 - 19:22 | #
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That's just great. Actually someone who is strong enough to do that. All the people which cry because the think its against their religion forget about all the speeches from their 'I want to be a great' president! I will print it and hang it out un school so everybody can see it!
German |
31.Jan.06 - 19:23 | #
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only animals dont think about what they r doing or saying . so before you follow what other people say , u sould read about mohammed's history and what he says then decide where
will u be.and dont be like an animal that just follow her master without thinking
aya |
31.Jan.06 - 19:24 | #
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If ever i meen EVER come in any close contact with any of the Shit cartoonists ever, I CAN GUARANTEE evrey one onw thing.
I will KILL repeat KILL his/her/them.
U all R Ass Holes to the N-th degree. that's for sure. !
Emad |
31.Jan.06 - 20:32 | #
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Thanks for your support. My site Uriasposten.net has been downed five days straight.
But one day I get online again...
Kim Møller |
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31.Jan.06 - 20:42 | #
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I think we get a pretty clear picture of the muslim mind from these posts.
The cartoons weren't very funny, but that's hardly the point. Well done for posting them. I might even buy your nasty bacon in solidarity.
One of your posters said "All religions should be protected from vilification and ridicule."
Why should that be, as most are vile and ridiculous, especially, it has to be said, islam?
Now, is Denmark going to wake up to who is the real enemy?
April23rd |
31.Jan.06 - 20:43 | #
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I saw the news. Wen someone threatens with violence, why it is always a Muslim?
Someone can help me with this?
Marc Smeets |
31.Jan.06 - 21:17 | #
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You FUk, happy now,
Danish daily's Prophet cartoon sparks anger, boycott in Gulf
Dubai: The United Arab Emirates (UAE) has joined other Muslim governments in condemning the publication in a Danish newspaper of cartoons depicting Prophet Mohammad as a terrorist, the Gulf News reported Monday.
The cartoons have sparked a wave of denunciations and boycott of Danish products across the Muslim world.
The publication of the offensive cartoons could spark "a dreadful clash of civilisations," said the UAE Minister of Justice, Islamic Affairs and Awqaf, Mohammad Nakhira Al Daheri.
The statement came as retailers across the Gulf began clearing the shelves of Danish products in protest against the Copenhagen-based Jyllands-Posten newspaper's publication of the cartoons.
"As much as we condemn extremism in every part of the world... we condemn the abuse that was published, which represents a cultural extremism," said Al Daheri.
"We also warn of any unexpected consequences of (such) actions," he added in a statement issued following a meeting with senior scholars at the ministry.
Meanwhile, UAE lawyer Abdul Hamid Al Kumity filed a suit at the emirate's Public Prosecution against the Danish newspaper for publishing "slandering material against Islam and the Prophet."
About 50 women marched in Dubai's Al Mamzar area calling for an end to "all dealings" with Denmark.
Cooperative societies and supermarkets in the UAE, Kuwait and Saudi Arabia began pulling out Danish products despite the newspaper's apology to the Saudis on its website.
In a message addressed to the "Respected citizens of Saudi Arabia," the newspaper said it never intended to offend the religious feelings of anybody.
"Unfortunately what happened was not at all a deliberate act," it said.
The cartoons were first published last September in Jyllands-Posten in which the prophet is shown wearing a turban shaped as a bomb.
Islam does not allow the depiction of Prophet Muhammad, even if it is respectful, because of concerns that it could lead to idolatry.
But last week a Norwegian Christian magazine published the same set of controversial caricatures that ignited the row.
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I don'y know what you believe in but if somebody insulted your believes what would you do?
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Thank you for posting these images. I'm going to the bakery to buy a Danish for breakfast. I know it's not much...
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Muslims dont need to beg for an apoplogie they're not that weak.BUT islam teaches to respect other religions, plus muslims cant publish bad or even good cartoons of JESUS because he's too pure to be materialized into drawings IF THESE CARTOONS WERE INVOLVING JESUS, MUSLIMS REACTION WOULD BE THE SAME
.so "an eye for an eye" can't solve this situation.western people should know,islam prevents terrorism(killing innocent people)but what was published is a good reason for pushing some hypercritical or extrem muslims for terrorism so i guess that the denmark gov. should prevent these actions for the sake of her citizens,(i guess that people's live are much more important than some forms of democracy here)
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31.Jan.06 - 21:57 | #
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Why most of us advocating freedom of speach are ignoring freedom of action in the restult ....refering to my all previous posts if you have time to go through them
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31.Jan.06 - 22:01 | #
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Why most of us advocating freedom of speach are ignoring freedom of action in the restult ....refering to my all previous posts if you have time to go through them
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like we say let barking dogs bark.You are like one of them really your comments or views donot harm muslims or their beliefs You are just barking you have no bite so keep it up.
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I think Muslims should refrain from even commenting on this site,this is my message to all muslims ,this is just another way of the west or Nonmuslims to enrage our brothers and then call them Terrorist or extremists.Everyone is answerable for their own deeds to Allah we should refrain from stooping to their level we should maintain our faith and goodness.We were taught by our prophet to be kind to the ones who throw stones at you ,one day they will wakeup from this meaningless life and do something better for the humanity as all humans are created by Allah the Almighty and all have to return to him onlySo do something that can reap rewards for the life after,the choice is yours to make May Allah have mercy on You.
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MUSLIMS don't need to beg for an apologie they're not that weak.
But islam is about peace and respecting other religions. publishing cartoons involving JESUS who is too pure to be materialized into pictures will make muslims react the same way like they did.
religion is a "no fly zone" people. free speech is holy for democracy we agree but everything have a roof
and religion is the roof here.
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I am surprised that many of you find these derogatory and stereotypical cartoons to be the best example of freedom of speech in the West. I am a Muslim Canadian and have the utmost respect for the freedoms and rights guaranteed to all residents of this great country and thoroughly understand what freedom of speech entails. For those of you that think that Muslims believe their religion to be superior, I hope that you change your mind about this because in our religion of Islam, nothing is more preached about then tolerance, respect and equality for every living humand being, creature, society, religion, culture, etc. The great thing about Islam is it's not just for white or black people, or for Danish or Middle Easter people, it is for everyone. As a message to all by Muslim brothers and sisters who have posted here and are reading this, remember Salam (peace). These are just drawings of what people percieve Islam to be, granted they are degrading and humiliating. The question we should ask ourselves then is, what caused these people to have such a view of Islam? Do we blame them or the stereotypical Jihadi Muslim that always appears on the news?
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I just want to say that you are going to lose any ways because we are (Muslims) are taking action aginst what you have done< We are not exporting or importing products from Denmark and this is your losss not oures we no longer buy your products so be it. I'm from the gulf we have Petrol we can stop you from having them.You should be afraid from us don't ever play with us caz you are not going to have fun look what happened to the US and UK they went to Iraq killed people and look what happened to them (The two towers and the train stations in the UK) I'm not saying this is not wrong but if you guys are like this then you deserve it.
One more thing you should respect other religions rather than making fun of them. We respect all religions. Wether you are christin Jewish we respect you for who you are so next time think about your actions before doing them.
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I just want to say that you are going to lose any ways because we are (Muslims) are taking action aginst what you have done< We are not exporting or importing products from Denmark and this is your losss not oures we no longer buy your products so be it. I'm from the gulf we have Petrol we can stop you from having them.You should be afraid from us don't ever play with us caz you are not going to have fun look what happened to the US and UK they went to Iraq killed people and look what happened to them (The two towers and the train stations in the UK) I'm not saying this is not wrong but if you guys are like this then you deserve it.
One more thing you should respect other religions rather than making fun of them. We respect all religions. Wether you are christin Jewish we respect you for who you are so next time think about your actions before doing them.
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Thanks for putting all those cartoons up where the rest of the world can see them. I didn't understand all of them but I still appreciate your courage and generosity in doing this.
The suckers sending you threats of violence or supernatural revenge just show how violent and crazy religion makes people.
Stay safe, stay sane, stay sceptical!
Thanks from London England,
Lucy xXx
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I don't know why exacty some people think that the only way to prove they have earned their right to freedom of speech is to insult what other people believe in most. No matter what you believe in, no matter how smart or talented you are, or think you are, you should not give yourself the liberty to insult another person's beliefs. I will not try to explain to you what Islam is all about either, because it's all about what you believe in your heart...but I guess it'll be enough to say that if a Muslim tried to make fun of Jesus this way (although I don't think any European country would really mind), it would still be a horrible, horrible thing to do. Please try to understand that, like the Chinese proverb says, the freedom of your fist ceases at the tip of my nose (or something to that effect). And just a little something for all the Muslims involved in this thing: STOP CURSING AND SAYING BLASPHEMOUS THINGS ABOUT JESUS AND CHRISTIANTIY!! This is even worse that what the cartoonists have done. If you were as devout as you want to sound, you know very well how God feels about having one of his Messengers called a bastard!! All of God's Messengers are equal in all ways, so instead of screaming bloody murder and ranting on about how every other person but yourselves is going to fry in Hell, take a minute to see what you've been doing. I'm a Muslim too by the way, and no, I don't go around on the street shooting people who call me stuff I don't like. I'm boycotting Danish stuff though, and this is simply exercising my right of passive resistance.
Thank you.
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Well I m going to write my comment in SWAHILI because I m from TANZANIA like this search someone to translate it,....
MIMI ninasikitika saana kuona vile umechapa na ninakuoneya huruma saaana mbele ya mola mana yake hauna hishima wala adabu haujihishimu wala hauhishimu waliyo kuzaa na waka kufunza , iyo siyo namna ya kuonesha uhuru wa kuongeya iyo nikujitukanisha bure, na usifikiri ya kuwa utapata sifaa ao utaongezewa cheo ao utawekwa badili ya mfalme wenu kwakuwa umemchora MTUME MUHAMMAD (SAW) ivo na wala hauwezi kupunguza kitu kwetu wa islam kwa kuwa waislam woote ni ndugu na nikupe habari ya kuwa waislam woote nikama kiumbe (binaadam umoja) kikiumwa kitu chochote mwilini basi anakuwa taabani anapata homa na mwili wote kuumwa.sisi waislam tuko mkono umoja na hakuna kitu kitatuachanisha na INSHAALLAH ninakuombeya mwenyeezimungu atulipiye sisi woote waislam kwa maumivu tumepata ya kuchorwa mtume wetu hivo.
nakuombeya mungu akulani duniyani na akhera na akupe ugonjwa usiye pona na ukuweke kitandani usipone uteseke mpaka siku atataka kukuchukuwa na ninakuombeya baada ya kufa JAHANNAM dark ya chini kabisa,......
I dont have a lot to say but I think this enough
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im not gonna say u'r stupid or anything u knw yourself more than me but i want u 2 think about it if i came and mocked or insulted ur prophet would u be happy?? but u knw what im not gonna do this coz my religion "ISLAM" teached me how to respect all prophets and religions, doesnt ur religion teach u that? how do u feel now when a girl of 17 yrs old teaches u a lesson happy rnt u??? u guyz say that muslims r the worest well im not gonna say we'r the greatest but we knw that some of us r rlly bad but some r not, do u think what jewish ppl do 2 palestine or iraq is good?? are they perfect 4 u? try 2 use ur mind that u dnt try 2 use it even only for a sec, if im a bad person like some ppl say that all muslims r bad i would right now publish anything that insult u guyz and i wont be afraid coz im afraid of nothing but god, we gonna c how u r goin 2 laugh at the end im dying 2 c that day..... shame on you
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The problem is that the Muslim political world is making an issue out of newpaper content. Everyone is free to boycott Danish products, but this is foolish as a reaction to one newspaper's content. What you don't understand is that this newspaper does not represent Denmark. It only represents itself and its contributors, who are free to say, and draw, what they like. The government of Denmark has nothing to do with it. This freedom of expression is what the Muslim mind (represented here) seems incapable of grasping. Nobody asks you to like it. If you are reading this in Denmark, start your own newpaper. Create your own website. Print, publish, and be damned.
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You are a very disrespectful person. Why would you insult and make fun of other people's beliefs when you know it infuriates them? It isn't free speech; the Muslims aren't doing anything against you or your country. They leave you alone so why are you encouraging them to want to kill you? BTW there is a bounty on your head so I hope you sleep easy.
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gila (indonesian) means mad
Don't be angry muslims. These are just silly cartoons. We shouldn't waste our time on childish efforts to evoke tension between etnic or religious groups. Or maybe I just don't understand them because they have to be explained within an artistic framework. My advice: publicize them in an Iraqi newspaper and mr. Bush will nominate you for the nobel price of peace.
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http://www.support-denmark.com points to this site just so you know.
Buy Danish! Support FREEDOM of SPEECH
Bry |
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Hey, I'm baaack. Well, the posts have really legnthened since I left. I stand by what I said at the beginning. If your a Muslim resist peacefully. Don't threaten to kill or maim or whatever. Just boycott, complain, and get your country's diplomats to resist as well. My form of Christianity (Baptist(www.imb.org)) recieves the same crap from all sorts of ppl (secular, Muslim, Hindu, Catholics, ect.) and hundreds of thousands of Christians are needlessly slain around the world by all religions every year and have been for quite some time now. Muslims need to condemn what their spiritual brothers and sisters are doing in violence...everyone else is displeased with it, but I haven't heard one condemnation of the violence provoked by some stupid cartoons from a 'peaceful' muslum. Someone say something in protest in that religion. I think if they heard it from you, they'd pay a whole lot more attention. If it helps any, I think that everyone in Islaam is follwing one of the many paths to eternal damnation, but I try to treat all ppl of all religions the same as my best friend no matter what. I simply warn them of what I believe and leave them be.
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I have now been reading quite a few comments on this matter and wanted to give a Danish perspective as well.
It has been said that Jyllands-Posten is currently back-pedalling, which is not exactly true. They have, as before, made the statement that they sincerely did not intend to degrade the religion of Islam nor incite to any hatred against Muslims in Denmark or any where.
It had come to the attention of Jyllands-Posten that several cartoonists actually put themselves to selfcensorship regarding Islam, out of fear of reprisals. This of course in a country where freedom of speech has always been a fundamental value on which our (modern) country has been founded. The newspaper therefore decided to challenge this. They decided to challenge the selfcensorship, not the religion of Islam. It just so happened that Islam was indeed the pivotal point of the matter.
In hindsight of recent events it would be difficult to argue that the newspaper was wrong. The fear felt by so many cartoonists seems to have been justified.
Then there is the matter of Muslims demanding an apology for the publishing of the caricatures. I understand if Muslins worldwide are offended by the drawings, but that does not, under any circumstance give them the right to dictate a free, independent media publishing caricatures in the nation of its own origin. Any Danish newspaper has the right to print whatever it pleases as long as it remains within the framework of Danish legislation. The public prosecutor (states attorney –am.) has already concluded that no law has been breached.
Furthermore, not only is an apology from the newspaper, should they decide to give one, not enough; an apology from the Danish government is also being demanded. Here I would like to emphasize that the apology given by the newspaper refers only to being regretful in offending Muslims to a great extent; not to having printed the caricatures, which it had every right to. The apology from the government, demanded by several Arabic nations is nothing short of preposterous. It is of course clear to any citizen living in a nation with a free, independent media that the government has absolutely no influence in the decision-making process of what material should be published or not. It is the very essence of the free media to stand without influence by the wielders of power in order for it to fill its function, which is to hold the government true to its word and to its people. The prime minister understands this hence the rejection to meet with a Muslim delegation consisting of 11 foreign diplomats wanting to discuss future sanctions against Jyllands-Posten. To make such a discussion the matter of serious debate on government level in a country with a free press, is simply not supported by the prime minister, which I applaud.
The entire matter is not made easier by the fact that Denmark has been the victim of a smear-campaign in the Middle East. Lies have been told, false drawings made and distr
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The entire matter is not made easier by the fact that Denmark has been the victim of a smear-campaign in the Middle East. Lies have been told, false drawings made and distributed. It seems that forces, whether they originate form within the Muslim community in Denmark itself or in the Middle East, have an interest in escalating the matter. It can be argued that this is indeed an opportunity for religious leaders to gain more popular support by inciting to greater actions against Denmark, hence the flag burnings and the threats issued against, not only Danish citizens, but Norwegian and Swedish citizens as well.
Denmark has for several years been a contributing factor in aiding the Palestinian cause, and the Islamic world in general, and we have no intension to fail our obligation to the Arabic nations despite losing millions every day due to the boycott currently in effect. That alone ought to make it evident that no deliberate action to demonise the religion of Islam and all of its followers has been made on a government level, making the boycott less understandable, though still just. It is the right of every inhabitant in this world to boycott Danish goods, should they choose to do so. Although it is in fact not allowed to promote, or initiate such a boycott by the government as that would be in violation of the policy of the World Trade Organisation. I am currently not aware if such a ban has been issued by the Saudi, or any other government. The European Union is looking in to that in the coming days and weeks.
However, as long as the general population decides to stop purchasing Danish goods, nothing can be, or should be done by any Danish institution to coerce an end to the boycott. That is completely at people’s leisure.
In fact, I was pleasantly surprised at first, when I learned the sanctions against Denmark. A peaceful boycott of Danish goods in the best tradition of the western world truly showed a markedly progress in the Arabic world. It is only now in recent days that my acknowledgement has faded. It now seems that it certainly was too good to be true that a peaceful uttering of people’s dislike could be carried through.
There is no simple solution to the matter. All we can do is to battle the misinformation thriving in the Middle East, have representatives of the Muslim community in Denmark to ease the situation, express our views to the leaders and population of the Arabic nations, and hope for the best. An official apology will not be issued and that must be understood. Some have even demanded that her Majesty, the queen of Denmark should apologies, which of course she will not.
The freedom of speech must not be diluted by giving in to the duress of the Islamic world. That also signifies that Danes should not be terribly offended by the burning of our flag, although it awakens indignation. That is, however the very essence of freedom of speech. It is alright to be offended, since when you persist on having the pr
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The freedom of speech must not be diluted by giving in to the duress of the Islamic world. That also signifies that Danes should not be terribly offended by the burning of our flag, although it awakens indignation. That is, however the very essence of freedom of speech. It is alright to be offended, since when you persist on having the privilege of speaking free, you must also tolerate that things maybe said and done that you do not approve of. In is, in fact a small price to pay to be able to speak your mind without having to trouble yourself with the fear of reprisals. In standing up to defend the freedom of speech we also must recognize the Muslims right to speak freely.
With the sincere hope that this incident will come to an end with the honour of Muslims and Danes alike, intact.
So be the perspective of a Dane…
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Most religions spread through violence other than Hinduism and Buddhism(Hinduism with just the
name changed, rest all is copied and re-arranged from Hinduism) which originated from India and
which spread on the basis of their tremendous intellectual philosophy alone by debate between
scholars.
How did Africa become Muslim and Christian?
How did South America become Christian and how do they speak Spanish there?
How did many Asian countries become Muslim?
They were all lands captured with the help of swords and guns and then the people and resources
were totally enslaved and exploited.
The worst guilty country was England with lot of European countries also guilty of warring and
capturing and exploiting other people and countries and their resources shamelessly without any
morals.
England got rich by feeding like a parasite on many colonies. They were then thrown out later by
the independence movements and because world wars broke their back.
So much for these being peaceful religions and countries.
All these European countries and many other countries have very very violent pasts against
others.
When exactly did they start to chant the mantra of peace? and till when are they going to
continue to be peaceful? for how long?
How did the black people spread all over? They were brought as slaves from Africa to work for
their masters.
How many people were and are killed and persecuted and enslaved on the basis of religion or
race/colour/nationality/ etc etc.?
How many people treated and are treating other people badly because of anything used as an excuse
to exhibit their barbaric philistine nature?
There should indeed be DIGNIFIED debate about religion and everything going on in the world.
Even though personal attacks must be refrained from, lot of those cartoons do raise important
points like womens equality and mad Islamic suicide terrorists, pervasive armed violence by
Muslims by Islamic terrorists and their groups etc. These are facts and truths which cannot be
denied, because just denial wont change anything, the facts will remain facts.
Most Muslims seem to be like ostriches burying their heads under the sand to avoid the truth
which is unpleasant to them.
First they say that their God and religion is the only true one and then they say they respect
other religions. Thats ridiculously stupid of them.
Other narrow minded rabid followers and misguided fanatics of other religions too are full of
such stupid crap when they try and convert people from other religions. The truth being that none
of these zealots has any demonstrable proof about their beliefs other than certain few lines and
words in books full of many thousands of words and lines of which they choose with their
discretion only certain words and lines which have ,been translated from who knows what language
by who knows whom and in who knows what re
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Other narrow minded rabid followers and misguided fanatics of other religions too are full of
such stupid crap when they try and convert people from other religions. The truth being that none
of these zealots has any demonstrable proof about their beliefs other than certain few lines and
words in books full of many thousands of words and lines of which they choose with their
discretion only certain words and lines which have ,been translated from who knows what language
by who knows whom and in who knows what real context, to follow as loonies as if in a hypnotic
trance.
Is it or Is it not true that Islam religion tells them to kill and shun non-Muslims people
because they are non believers.
If this is true, how can Muslims ever peacefully co-exist with others, when their very religion
is against that.
Is that why so many Islamic militant terrorist groups kill non-Muslims?
((And other muslims look away and dont they control or totally ostracize or reject them publicly
as being false Muslims?
Arent they guilty by omission?))
And other muslims look away and dont reject the terrorists publicly as being false Muslims.
Arent they also guilty by omission?
Why do these Muslims settle in many democratic open countries and get equal rights but in Muslim
countries, non-Muslims have little or no rights, religious or otherwise and they are routinely
persecuted. The Muslim countries want to continue to keep their state Muslim religion by
persecuting and lessening non-Muslims, but the Muslims settle everywhere and demand that
everything be made into Muslim country. Then why do they cry when other countries assert their
religion and then will these Muslims mind if they are allowed to practise their Islam only within
their house and not at all outside their homes and if they are given lesser rights than the
original religion people of the country, because they dont mind the same when it is done to
people of other religions in Muslim countries? Yes?
The truth must be told where it is harming others. Muslims should not attempt to hide or
whitewash facts and truths. Rather they should control and moderate the violent fundamentalists
and terrorists who seem to be all too present and pervasive among them with a lot of support of
money and resources from Muslims. Where else do they get their money and resources from?
In fact, Where do the rogue militaries of the world get their money and resources from too?
In any case, people and even Muslims should not try and deny truths, they must accept and try to
change for the better, mere denial and attempt to whitewash wont pass. Everyone now knows the
truth, how long will you deny the facts. Be brave and accept and then change for better. No one
will believe empty denials of facts and truths anymore.
Muslims, Jews, Christians or any other religions, everyone is human first and should have equal
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In any case, people and even Muslims should not try and deny truths, they must accept and try to
change for the better, mere denial and attempt to whitewash wont pass. Everyone now knows the
truth, how long will you deny the facts. Be brave and accept and then change for better. No one
will believe empty denials of facts and truths anymore.
Muslims, Jews, Christians or any other religions, everyone is human first and should have equal
human rights because all are humans first. Religions were made for people. People are more
important. Their happiness is most important.
*** PEACE ***
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In any case, people and even Muslims should not try and deny truths, they must accept and try to
change for the better, mere denial and attempt to whitewash wont pass. Everyone now knows the
truth, how long will you deny the facts. Be brave and accept and then change for better. No one
will believe empty denials of facts and truths anymore.
Muslims, Jews, Christians or any other religions, everyone is human first and should have equal
human rights because all are humans first. Religions were made for people. People are more
important. Their happiness is most important.
*** PEACE ***
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I agree with Siddhartha on only one point (and I might agree with a few others if I knew more about Islam) - PEACE - ppl need to learn to treat each other equally no matter what...forgive and forget. AND, happiness is not the most important thing in life from my point of view, but I believe joy is (happiness is temporary and joy is eternal - good ol' fashioned Baptist logic). Joy comes through serving the one and only God of Abraham (a different one from Allah, although Muslims claim they are one and the same). There are also many things supporting Christianity and things in the Bible, Siddhartha. Scripts have been found in Greek of several New Testiment books that were written only SEVENTY or so years after Jesus died. The words match almost perfectly with an exception of a few prepositions and other small words that don't change the meaining of anything in modern translations. I could go on and on, but I digress. Lets keep on topic...the cartoons, the Muslims' reaction to it, ect.
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I would just like to reiterate what support you have received concerning this website and your own stance for free speech and with the Danes.
I, for one, will be buying Danish.
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No matter how objective I'll try to be, I can't do it for the simple reason that I respect Prophet Muhammed (b.p.u.h) as well as all other prophets. If you think that freedom of speech should not have limits, then publishing a cartoon about the owner of Jyllands-Posten who provides the paycheck can be ridiculed without repercussions. I'm sure that such hypotetical cartoon will never make it to the public because the chief editor can never allow it to be published. How can there be an unwritten retriction on regular people and not on God's messenger: Prophet Muhammed (b.p.u.h).
The cartoonist is ignorant because he portrayed the prophet as a terrorist. Doesn't he know that the prophet preached peace even with non-muslims (Quraish) and forgave people who were so mean to him. Cartoons always reflects some truth disguised in a joke. Unfortunately, this was meagninless joke with no truth associated to it. I believe that, whether we like it or not, there is no such thing as pure freedom of speech and objectvity in journalism and media. There are unwritten policies that journalists comply with but will never reveal them. Here is one small example, one of of Detoit-Lions football fan was holding a sign that says: Fire the owner and the fan was throuwn out of the stadium "BECAUSE HE SPOKE UP HIS MIND" and was not happy with the team's performance. Read about what happened to Bernard Goldberg, who used to work at CBS, after he wrote an article about a biased media. Regardless how unpure freedom of speech is, God,the holy books and the prophets must not be ridiculed. For this reason I believe that some actions should be taken against this cartoonist and the newspaper. I mean legal action within the danish judiciary system and not murder.
Finally, as a muslim i invite everyone to read books about Prophet Muhammed's life. A lot of people read about "LEADERS" such as Jack Walsh, Donald trump, or Geroge Soros but I'm sure you will learn a lot more from the prophet's actions than from the other billionaire's biographies.
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ARE YOU SO KIND OF A JACKASS?? I VERY MUCH THINK SO, ACTUALLY I'M SURE OF IT. HOW DARE U TALK LIKE THAT? U HAVE NO RIGHT. AFTER DOING THAT WHAT DID U FEEL? HAPPY? I SWEAR A DAY WILL COME WHERE U WILL FACE GOD, AND WHAT WOULD U SAY?
HAS ANYONE EVER TOLD U TO RESPECT OTHER RELIGIONS? IF WE WANTED TO MAKE FUN ABOUT OUR RELIGION WE DO IT YOURSELVES, WE DON'T NEED SOME LIKE U!
ACTUALLLY DO U HAVE A RELIGION? I GUESS NOT. OR MAYBE UR THE DEVILS FRIEND.
THERE IS ENOUGH WAR AND PROBLEMS IN THIS WORDLD, CAN'T THERE BE A DAY WHERE WE CAN HAVE PEACE?
TAKE MY ADVICE U NEED TO SAY SORRY. BECAUSE U WILL HAVE PROBLEMS!!
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What you did is wrong posting pictures and making fun of our prohit . What's wrong is wrong no matter what so we do deserve an apoplogy
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I would love to see every blogger and every newspaper publish those cartoons so that everyone could understand that this is truely much ado about nothing. A few of the cartoons I'll admit I just don't get, but none of them are even remotely in Der Sturmer territory. Shame on you, Mr. Clinton, for pandering to the Muslim world's utter lack of any concept of freedom of expression, and its expectation that it has a right never to be offended by art, literature, or anything else.
Hell, if the Muslim world is going to react to a few innocuous political cartoons of Mohammed with death threats, boycotts, and demands for censorship, I say give them something to be offended about--let's try some genuine blasphemy. Say a political cartoon of Mohammed being sodomized by Osama bin Laden--any takers? Let's get that up on a million servers. Maybe the Muslim world can be persuaded to boycott ALL non-Muslim countries.
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THE MOST INFLUENTIAL
Normally, it is quite, natural for anyone to love, praise, idolize or hero-worship ones leader, be it a guru, saint or prophet: and very often we do.
However, if I were to reproduce here what great Muslims have said or written about our illustrious prophet, it could be played down as exaggeration, fancy or idolization by the sceptics and the opponents of Islam. Therefore, allow me to quote unbiased historians, friendly critics and even avowed enemies of that mighty Messenger of God - Muhammad (pbuh). If the tributes of the non-Muslims do not touch your hearts, then you are in the wrong faith. In recent times, a book has been published in America titled "The 100," or the Top One hundred, or the Greatest Hundred in History. A certain Michael H. Hart, described as a historian, mathematician and astronomer has written this novel book. He has searched history, seeking for men who had the greatest influence on mankind. In this book he gives us The hundred most influential men, including Asoka, Aristotle, Buddha, Confucius, Hitler, Plato, and Zoroaster. He does not give us a mere chart of the topmost "one hundred" from the point of view of their influence on people, but he evaluates the degree of their influence and rates them in order of their excellence from No. 1, through to No. 100. He gives us his reasons for the placing of his candidates. We are not asked to agree with him, but we cannot help admire the man's research and honesty.
The most amazing thing about his selection is that he has put our Nabee-e-Kareem, the Holy Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) as No. 1, the first of his "100!" Thus confirming, unknowingly, God's Own testimony in His Final Revelation to the World:
MOST CERTAINLY, YOU HAVE IN THE MESSENGER OF ALLAH AN EXCELLENT PATTERN (OF BEHAVIOUR)
Holy Qur’ân 33:21
JESUS (PBUH) No. 3!
Hart placing the Prophet of Islam as No. 1, has naturally pleased the Muslims. But his choice as shocked the Non-Muslims, more specially the Jews and the Christians, who consider this as an affront. What? Jesus (pbuh) No. 3 and Moses (pbuh) No. 40! This is for them very difficult to stomach, but what says Hart? Let us hear his arguments –
http://www.irf.net/irf/download/...nload/
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I'm against all the name-calling that's going on here. I honestly believe that you can express your views and opinions in a more civilized fashion, through which we show how Islam teaches us to treat others well and respect all. Each and every dirty word that slips from your mouth is a sin, way off track from what Islam instructs us to do.
That being said, I'm amazed at those cartoonists' ignorance and level of disrespect. It is well known by all educated citizens of the world that Islam forbids the pictorial representation of all prophets (including Jesus, by the way) and God. How dare they draw such cartoons offending Muslims and Islamic values! Not only did they picture Mohammed, but also harassed him in numerous ways. Pictured wearing a time-bomb? How would they feel had an Arabic newspaper done the same to there religious symbol? But, exactly, Muslims would never do such a thing. Why? Because we respect and tolerate all religions, with especial regards to Jesus being one of the great prophets. And, say what, you're not even apologizing? Now that's just plain rude, uncivilized, and cowardly. Freedom of speech is an aspect of civilized culture, where civilized people reside. Civilized people act responsibley, maturely, and never offend others.
I live in the States, so I very well know about freedom of speech and its value. You may speak freely, even about rulers and governments, but never about religion. This is where freedom is/should be limited. No, you may not offend other people's religions and religious figures.
As for the boycott, Denmark deserves it. So does Norway, in which the cartoons were actually RE-PRINTED! Seriously, if that's not the greatest example of being incompetently rude, I don't know what is!
I refuse to pay money for people to use it against my religion. If they won't respect us, they don't deserve our money.
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A person purporting to be "an Educated Muslim" wrote: "I live in the States, so I very well know about freedom of speech and its value. You may speak freely, even about rulers and governments, but never about religion. This is where freedom is/should be limited. No, you may not offend other people's religions and religious figures."
Hm, judging from his (her?) English literacy, it does seem plausible that he (she?) lives in the U.S. Is it really possible that one could live in the U.S. and be so utterly ignorant of what is protected by our Constitution? Alas, I fear that it is. For his (her's?) and everyone else's reference: in the U.S., and apparently in Denmark (at least for now), you can speak and write freely even about religion! Amazing stuff, really. Very cutting edge. Well, it was in 1789 anyway.
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FOR OBOVE COMMENT CHECK TITLE ...."MUHAMMAD THE GREATEST"
http://www.irf.net/irf/download/...nload/
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@George
I am a her, a college student as well. I have been in the U.S. for quite a while. I know that the constitution gives us the right to free speech, but I respect Americans for being so respectful to others. Never have I witnessed an American attacking any religion in such a fashion, unless we're talking about high school students with an IQ of -4. You may express your opinion, but do it politely. At least know what you're talking about before you start talking.
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Hey JayZan, I couldn't find anything called "Muhammad the Greatest", or anything by Michael H. Hart on your published link. The link directs me to a biased Islamic site.
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FOR "Muhammad the Greatest" PLEASE GO DOWN THE LIST YOU SEE THE TITLE ...."Muhammad the Greatest"
http://www.irf.net/irf/download/...nload/...nload/
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PLEASE DO CHECK THE LINK OUT....
"...."Muhammad the Greatest"
http://www.irf.net/irf/download/...nload/...nload/
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You know why we are offened by what you people done because prohet mohammed is the best person for us the person that we follow in everything imagine if somebody offended your mum, dad, sis, wife...ect what will you do definetly kick his ass is it . what you did is wrong and wrong is wrong we do deserve an apology at least repect that he is the prohert and this is related to our religion.These pic means lots of things such as lack of respect for muslim and that is WRONG.
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If they were silly pic and you say and means nothing . then why did you post the pics in the web and listned to peoples comments. You just wana make fun of that's why well at the end it's youe loss. We stopped buying Denmarkian food or things moreever exporting and importing your products so economically you lose plus we have petrol which the source of everything today try to get with a good price like before!!You guys are pushing us to do bad things to you so you could learn next time not to muss with us!!! it's not a threat but when I person do something wrong he deserves punshment Well maybe your punishment will be the lack of peace and secure. look the US sent their army to iraq and helped isreal in killing our people (Plastines) no one did something but when incent people died in Sept 11 they made a fiss. Well does that mean our blood is cheap and their is expensive do you know that everyday more that 10 people die in plastine but well it's become something usual who cares isn't it Bush helps Isreal with the weapons and kill plastines well let them at least feel the loss of someone you truely love and that's may happene to you Danish people don't try to muss with us and phush us to the wrong direction. Admitting mistakes is a step toward a better future.
Thanks alot for your time and sorry if I offeneded anyone
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What my dear friend you call freedom of speech is infact ridicule of religion. You make a mockery of the sole basis of "Freedom of Speech" that is religion, be it Islam, Christianity, Judiasm, Hinduism, etc. What really dissapoints me is this site reflects how the world has changed for the worse. Expression of this sort is unacceptable, and for you I have not hate, but prayer. May god guide you. Jazakallah. Peace be upon you. May god have his mercy on you. I fear what will really happen. You are but digging a pit for yourself. Please want to be guided and you will. Amen.
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To the putative “Educated Muslim”: So, you will be boycotting Denmark and Norway because those countries have failed to outlaw all speech or art that the Muslim world deems offensive to Islam. Basically, you and your fellow travelers have decided to boycott them for their failure to be totalitarian societies. As an American, I will be deeply offended if you do not include my nation in your boycott. Given the inconvenience of boycotting all things American while living here, I urge you to consider leaving our shores. (To tell you the truth, I have ulterior motives for this; I think it is bad for our democracy to have people living here who do not value our civil liberties, even if they are not citizens.)
I trust that you will think through your boycott enough to realize that for it to make any sense, it must include all nations that would allow the publication of those cartoons, i.e., all nations which value individual freedom. Fortunately for you, that leaves not only the Islamic world, with its prodigious manufacturing and agricultural capacity (I’m being facetious here), but also Communist China, a society that is clearly a better match to your values.
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we muslim need to unnify... have one umma... one kalifa... then people will respect us.....like before....
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Right on George, I don't support the intentions behind the cartoons (although they do describe the feelings I have of Muslim terrorists), but I believe that the cartoonists had every right to publish them if that was the way they felt.
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A few outraged readers have noted that Islam (at least in its more totalitarian strains, which seem to hold sway today) forbids the pictorial representation of all those it call prophets, including a late Gallilean fellow by the name of Jesus. I wonder how long it will be before an outranged Muslim world demands the removal of all those blasphemous altar pieces and stained glass windows from the “churches”, “cathedrals”, and “museums” of Europe, and how long after that it will be before European Muslims take matters into their own hands. Perhaps that would actually be enough to get Europeans to clue into the problem they have in their midst? I hope so, but I doubt it.
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Oh, and Nabil Jalil - thank you so much for taking your religion in the right light. Pray for this guy that he will see things your way and get some respect for your religion. Don't threaten him. There need to be only Muslims like you.
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Dude, if u respect others, others will respect you. Do not ridicule the muslims just because of a certain group of ppl.
Cheers.
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It goes well beyond Islam, the root of evil is respect to nonsensical beliefs
http://www.edge.org/q2006/
q06_7...._7.html#harriss
Quote from the above link:
"While religious tolerance is surely better than religious war, tolerance is not without its liabilities. Our fear of provoking religious hatred has rendered us incapable of criticizing ideas that are now patently absurd and increasingly maladaptive. It has also obliged us to lie to ourselves — repeatedly and at the highest levels — about the compatibility between religious faith and scientific rationality."
My personnal take is that nonsensical beliefs should be allowed for every person but NOT given the backing of law.
NO ONE may try to prescribe what other people are thinking and neither what they are doing UNLESS this involve an obvious damage to concerned others.
It seems beyond evidence that beheading involves an obvious damage to the beheaded while just *seeing* something you feel offensive is NOT an obvious damage, just DON'T LOOK!!!
If there is disagreement on the above then conflict cannot be avoided.
Let's roll...
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01.Feb.06 - 6:05 | #
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I think the guy above the article just posted in the link is a MUCH better view of things.
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01.Feb.06 - 6:29 | #
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Hey my muslim friends. There is no need to be angry. This person seems to have some kind of mental problem. The cartoons mean nothing. Do not bother yourelves.
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stupid ass. you dont know what you have done. be happy for what you have done. laugh as much as you can, but my friend i am tellin you one thing for sure. you will cry. and instead of tears blood will come out of your eyes. you dont belive this now . but when you will be crying, Allah will show you all the moments when you were laughing and making fun of his most beloved prophet,its seems funny to you right now, but this kinda thins are never funny to Allah, i Swear to my Allah if i can see you only for 1 min. trust me you will not see anyother thing on earth, you will not live any longer, i wish you very happy life, coz this will end very soon and then you will find out what is real and whats not and it will be very late by then .. have fun as much as you can.....may you rest in peace .. but i dont think matter of fact i am sure you will never be able to rest in peace....
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I really need to remind you that it was God who created Islam and not prophet Mohammad, prayers be upon him (pbuh), as you claim. So starting on such a wrong piece of information already conveys your ignorance about the subject, but as a good deed to counter your unforgivable one, please read the article on the following URL, you will really find it to be very informational and inspirational I hope (http://www.arabnews.com/?supname=prophet&
supplement=1&part=1&last=11). God sent prophet Mohammad, pbuh, as his messenger exactly as he sent prophets Jesus, Moses, Noah, Abraham, (peace be upon them), before him (who are all regarded as muslims by the way - ones who surrender themselves to God). You can check the family tree, Jesus and Mohammad, pbu them, are descendants of prophet Abraham pbuh.
Hope you do start your journey of knowledge, correct your wrongs, and remove those insulting pictures.
May God guide you to the truth.
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01.Feb.06 - 7:12 | #
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Hi,
You must understand first, Islam does not boast a god for muslims. It is the god of universe and the Prophet Muhammed was his messenger who just alerted human bieng about god. How come you betray your very own god and his messenger. I can only feel sorry for these guys. Pls explore Islam you come out with truth.
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01.Feb.06 - 7:23 | #
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my doughter !
Pls and pls remove thoes insulting pectures.
I knew that you selected the wrong way and when you become a bitch I forgive you but this time you are unforgivable.
all what you did is your wrong adias pls, I know that sombody is directing you to a wrong way. but still you have time. pls apologize to Muslims and remove the pectures
your fathere
how naver seen a day of happieness from you.
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However none of the pictures describe a sense of humanity, and at the first sight you can see how the person is sick in terms of his nerve and mind, you have to see the doctor....and it is so shame and tricky for all Denmark Citizens as well as other infidels to live in this world....shame on you....
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01.Feb.06 - 8:21 | #
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This is one the most shame full act you people have done. You are just a fucking bastard. Wait for the dooms day
shakil |
01.Feb.06 - 8:44 | #
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U r ugly sick mother fucker idiot. god will punish u for this
Javed Akhter |
01.Feb.06 - 8:44 | #
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It is very unfortunate to see pictures like this, but I would like to remind all the people reading these comments and viewing these pictures that Muhammed PBUH would have never given way to anger. He would simply ignore the ignorant. People insulted him before and will insult him again. Every muslim knows the prophets PBUH character. He was a guiding light and no matter who tries to de fame him he will always be the greatest man to walk this planet.
There is one god and Muhammed PBUH is his final messenger.
W'salaam
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01.Feb.06 - 8:54 | #
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I am a Christian and very proud to be one. However, I am also a believer of the islamic ways of life. I admire the dedication and seriousness that muslims apply to their religion on a daily basis, a factor that I am saddened by since we as christians seem to lack. Ignorance comes in many forms and is not a bliss as some may want to beleive. For it is ignorance that has caused so much hate and segregation in the world today. Being educated about other beliefs and ways of life makes the world a better and safer place to be.
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My fellow muslims, please remember that the prophet to all nations Mohammad, pbuh, forbids you to swear at anyone, as that may result in swearing back at you, your prophet(s), and God!! Please refrain from swearing and try to debate with them with what is better,...If you can't, it's better not to debate at all. Take an example from the following, when prophet Mohammad, pbuh, used to have POW's, he did not cut their heads, he did not tie them up, he did not lock them up in dungeons (even though they were infidels), instead he offered them freedom in return for favors (namely teaching muslims reading and writing in those times). Follow the path of the Prophet and be peaceful even to those who offend you, defend yourself by force only when you are attacked.
Boycott Denmark and Norway, and the USA of course, as they are supporting the killing of innocent muslims in Occupied Palestine, occupied Iraq, and occupied Afghanistan. It's your duty to do so...
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01.Feb.06 - 8:57 | #
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Islam also forbids cussing brothers. So dont cuss at them. The prophet ordered us to gaurd our toungs. Just boycott and that will harm them more. Agreed with Mustafa Shaaban. Boycott Denmark, norway and USA. And any other country who want to talk trash about Mohammad(may Allahs blessings be upon him) or any other prophet (may Allahs blessings be upon them) then we will boycott your products as well.
Salam
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01.Feb.06 - 9:05 | #
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I wish this page long live and happines. This is great page and good moral mirror to all muslims. Think first then act.
Act of satyre is the first act of freedom! It was there long time before we have any laws about freedom and rights of a person. And good satire will allways make angry stupid people (because they find themselves).
BUDHIST |
01.Feb.06 - 9:21 | #
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French paper France Soir has re-printed the cartoons, yay 
Thank you for your support France!
I guess the muslim world has to boycott French products too, la-di-da, this is great.
United we stand, divided we fall.
Unite!
Bry |
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Just a simple comment to prevent people from misinterpreting my previous post!
I don’t have any problems with, infect I have a lot of good Muslim friends! I respect all religions. I didn't really like the cartoons either, even found them inappropriate in some way.
My posts aren't about the cartoon nor religions. Surely no religion is 'bad' otherwise there wouldn't be millions of people believing in it! But it is the way our griefs are said, not in words but in threats of violence!
I hate to see that thousand of dollars are spend by aid organizations to retract their workers in hurry, while instead this money could have been used to help the needing people!
@Marc Smeets "When someone threatens with violence, why it is always a Muslim?": you are absolutely correct, it isn't. Reading back my posts I indeed notice I tend to write torts that statement, well people that is unintentionally and incorrect, my apologies!
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01.Feb.06 - 9:33 | #
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the second sentence should have been:
I don’t have any problems with Muslims, ....
Kook Wekker |
01.Feb.06 - 9:35 | #
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What can I say about a person with a twisted mind ? Only I should pity on him. I am not talking about you or am I ....
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if this is your way of getting anny kind of attention I really feel sorry for you
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01.Feb.06 - 9:58 | #
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These cartoons do not look like a simple joke to me. A cartoon that shows Jesus as a hippie is something and associating a prophet with terrorism and barbarism as some of these cartoons do is something else (the ones with the bomb and the sword in particulary are so cleer).
Before saying that publishing these cartoons falls under free speach, let us wonder why they were drawn in the first place. The newspaper invited cartoonists to submit the drawings to select some to illustrate mohammed in a book for children. What is the association we are trying to create in children's minds? Is it that mohamed is a prophet of violance and barbarism? has any of these cartoonist or the publisher read ANYTHING of mohamed's biography before making such cartoons????
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I m a Hindu from Great INDIA. and I respect all the religions in the world. and it is really not the sign healthy mind.
please stop it and try to live in peace full world.
Abhiram
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Freedom obviously means different things to different people but if you're in the process of infringing on someone else's rights you're certainly surpassing your right to freedom of speech. Saying that you neither fear death-threats nor criticism unfortunately reflects your personality. For the sake of humanity, I hope you're made of better stuff. To respect all religions and religious thought is neither encumbent upon you nor probably necessary to you in your normal course of life but since you're a staunch proponent of the freedom to speech, you must make the effort to understand what the said subject implies. One person's freedon ends where another's freedom begins. Please try to curb your iognorance and make an effort not to save it for posterity on the net. The Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) or any other prophets or individuals like Buddha, Rama, Krishna, etc. are revered by most not necessarly because all their teachings are universally believed in but because hopefully human beings have risen beyond barbarism and have learned to give and return respect where it is due. I'm ready to give you respect too but please try to earn it. As for prophets, legends, etc., such individuals won't be hurt by your comments. Neither will their religions. I urge others not to be hurt either. Unfortunately, what you are developing is a barrier between people and peoples. Suddenly you and your countrymen are facing the wrath of certain individuals thanks to your ill-considered web-site. I fail to see how this has benefitted your cause for "Free Speech".
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What exactly is a "terrorist religion"? A religion that terrorists subscribe to? Most subscribe to Islam. OK, check. Is it a religion that advocates voilence against non-believers? Yes, Islam does that. Check.
Want to know more about Islam. Check out www.faithfreedom.org.
Finally, some claim that freedom of speech and expression does not extend to criticising religions and hurting religious peoples' sentiments. But then shouldn't religious freedom also be similarly circumscribed? Why is it that Islam can have the "religious freedom" to heap invective and vile epithets on idol-worshippers like me -- a peaceful person myself -- and vow to kill me (merely because I don't bow to their Allah) without any provocation? How about calling the Koran (Quran) for the piece of terrorist manual it is and prohibiting its publication?
The moment Denmark capitulates and apologizes officiall, I will know that Europe can be written off: it has lost to the terrorist dogma called Islam.
February 1, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterIdolworshipper
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01.Feb.06 - 10:59 | #
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It looks more and more obvious that monotheism is a psychiatric condition of the paranoid kind and that Islam is the worst of those.
Just take some medication, I suggest Risperidone:
http://www.google.com/search?
hl=...G=Google+Search
Realist |
01.Feb.06 - 11:09 | #
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Damet Garm = Bravo
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01.Feb.06 - 11:33 | #
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"Access to the requested URL is not allowed!", this is the message I got from the Gateway that filters all websites in Saudi Arabia while checking your suggested website www.faithfreedom.org. This can only mean 2 things, that it is either an Adult website or a website that is disapproved in KSA (the content is probably offensive). However, Mr. Idolworshipper, tell me where you can actually find muslims killing non-muslims just for the sake of it!! Islam teaches you to fight only in self-defence which is the case now all over the world,...It's our duty to defend our brethern, but we don't go on killing people just for the fun of it.
Imagine that Jews used to live peacefully in all muslim land, they ran away from europe to arabia because of the persecution they faced there while they were tolerated by the muslims in Palestine, Tunisia, Morocco, Lebanon,... The actual first skirmishes that occured in occupied Palestine were started by false-flag operations by the zionist jews who killed other jews and blamed it on the peaceful palestinians just to provoke a conflict to grab more than the allotted 50% of the land "given" to them by Britain (Daylight Robbery!!!). Anyways, you are welcome to live amongst us, like many christians, muslims, budhists, hindus, "idolworshipers", etc. as long as you don't "attack" us. We have our religion and you have yours...
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01.Feb.06 - 11:47 | #
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??????? ??? ????? ?? ???????? ??? ????
f.u.c.k |
01.Feb.06 - 11:47 | #
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The Danes have fought for centuries for their freedom of speech. They are a placid freedom loving people who are friendly and exceptionally tolerant towards other religions. Danes have invited/taken in many refugees and foreign visitors with open arms. The Danes have laws which ensures equality between Danes and foreigners. Different nationalities have different ideas of political satire and that should be respected. The Danes have full right to express their views and sense of satire in their own country. Any transgression of that right is both wrongful and foolish. It is not that any one religion has been singled out for ridicule. Most prominet people and most religions have been on the receiving end of satire not only from the Danes. Extremism of any kind is dangerous this is yet another example. It is to be hoped that the muslims living in Denmark are returning the tolerance and respect as they receive.
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01.Feb.06 - 11:49 | #
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Islam came for peace please give yourself 5Min. to explore Islam and read this site you will understand us well and see that this bad image is totally wrong.
The problem is that some bad people trying to give you wrong perceptions.
http://www.muhammad.net/
Mohamed Samir |
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01.Feb.06 - 12:05 | #
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Dear fellow muslim citizens of the world. Let us focus on the solution.
The problem is
1)muslims are offended
2)thats must be stopped
Solution?
1)establish a council for the corretion of the press in case of offensive treatment of people?
Questions:
1)Can I, as an atheist be represented in this counsil and have a say in case I am offended by, say, religious people who wants to purify my local newspaper?
2) will all 500 recognized religious groups in Denmark be allowed to have a representative in this council?
3) In your view, who should ultimately be bestowed with authority to judge whether something is offensive or not?
Answers: I'm listening..
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01.Feb.06 - 12:23 | #
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Dear fellow muslim citizens of the world. Let us focus on the solution.
The problem is
1)muslims are offended
2)thats must be stopped
Solution?
1)establish a council for the corretion of the press in case of offensive treatment of people?
Questions:
1)Can I, as an atheist be represented in this counsil and have a say in case I am offended by, say, religious people who wants to purify my local newspaper?
2) will all 500 recognized religious groups in Denmark be allowed to have a representative in this council?
3) In your view, who should ultimately be bestowed with authority to judge whether something is offensive or not?
Answers: I'm listening..
From Denmark with some simple |
01.Feb.06 - 12:23 | #
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SubhannAllah... Ma Dear Muslim Fella...
Please.. be patient.. its a test.. Remember wat Muhammad(SAW) has thought us.. Let them say, humiliate,cursed,write,draw etc.etc..
Nabi Muhammad(SAW) wants his follower to be with him.. Do all the things written in Quran followed everything stated in Hadiths InsyaAllah.. so wat the commotions here all abt... Muslim don't created all this nonsence.. Our religious are known so pure, honest, sincere... so y bother.. let dem say.. Wat shld we asked for, wat shld we say? Well.. Prayed to Allah(SA).. May they been forgiven.. Coz they still dun noe how great ISLAM is.. Im proud being a muslims.. Alhamdullilah.. Dun ever humiliate other ppl religious nor boycott their country.. Please be patient.. May Allah Bless You n Family.. InsyaAllah..
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SubhannAllah... Ma Dear Muslim Fella...
Please.. be patient.. its a test.. Remember wat Muhammad(SAW) has thought us.. Let them say, humiliate,cursed,write,draw etc.etc..
Nabi Muhammad(SAW) wants his follower to be with him.. Do all the things written in Quran followed everything stated in Hadiths InsyaAllah.. so wat the commotions here all abt... Muslim don't created all this nonsence.. Our religious are known so pure, honest, sincere... so y bother.. let dem say.. Wat shld we asked for, wat shld we say? Well.. Prayed to Allah(SA).. May they been forgiven.. Coz they still dun noe how great ISLAM is.. Im proud being a muslims.. Alhamdullilah.. Dun ever humiliate other ppl religious nor boycott their country.. Please be patient.. May Allah Bless You n Family.. InsyaAllah..
PeaceGal |
01.Feb.06 - 12:31 | #
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They are acting as if offended. "acting". "acting". "over-acting". The "acting" serves a greater objective - to subdue and divide the west. That is the goal of a few Islamists.
We pursue our freedom of speach. You won't change that.
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01.Feb.06 - 13:14 | #
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NO comment.
Human wording is nothing.
Allah's Powerful is the greatest.
I So beliver Allah will send his punishment to demmark & Norway soon.
Just all Keep watching.
Ibrahim Ali Mahir |
01.Feb.06 - 13:20 | #
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Any one who respects all the others must have respect to himself.
Your misbehavior towards the prophet
of Islam is a proof that you have no respect to yourself, so what to say?
No comment.
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01.Feb.06 - 13:23 | #
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I just need to highlight that muslims for decades have never been terrorists, the fact that a few groups are, does not mean that ISLAM is a religion of terror, because there are terrorists from every other religion and races, I think you should read first about ISLAM before you start writting anything. As for the cartoons about Sayedna Muhammad (PBUH). This is absolutely does not have anything related to free speach, freedom does not mean hurting other people, does freedom mean that I can curse your mother or father??? or draw stupid cartoons abou them??? I just see an uneducated,arogant and racist person.
I think that Boycotting will continue as sign of rejection of racism. I hope that respectable danish ppl will recognise what has this stupid move can reflect.
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01.Feb.06 - 13:26 | #
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Thanks for putting the Images online. At least now i know what THEY are complaining about. I still don't see why anyone has a problem with the caricatures. Looks like I have to buy more danish products to compensate for the "don't buy jewish" guys.
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01.Feb.06 - 13:36 | #
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No comments!
Human wording is nothing!
so what to say?!
Three fine answers I think... I do indeed respect the frustration and anger... but what about talking about a solution instead of the usual "punish the danish people"-talk... I will try again: will it, in your (believer in the faith of islam) opinion, be a good idea to establish a council to monitor and correct newspapers so to stop all the offending? And if so, who should decide when offending has occurred? Will my atheist views be represented, or is it only religious people who can avoid getting offended?
From Denmark with some simple |
01.Feb.06 - 13:50 | #
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No comments!
Human wording is nothing!
so what to say?!
Three fine answers I think... I do indeed respect the frustration and anger... but what about talking about a solution instead of the usual "punish the danish people"-talk... I will try again: will it, in your (believer in the faith of islam) opinion, be a good idea to establish a council to monitor and correct newspapers so to stop all the offending? And if so, who should decide when offending has occurred? Will my atheist views be represented, or is it only religious people who can avoid getting offended?
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01.Feb.06 - 13:50 | #
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As a moslem, we should be patient in facing this crazy world. Western people believe that they are more developed and educated than asian and african. In fact, they are more stupid indeed. Lets remember what happen during the colonilization, world war and this century. Western people really like to have war in order to dominate other land and people. Hi western people, are those fact pararel with your culture such as democracy and freedom?. Don't be silly guys. All the people are not really stupid as you did in the past, present and future. Don't hide behind a jargon such democracy and freedom when your behavior can insult other people, mentally and physically.
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01.Feb.06 - 13:53 | #
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u fucker.......wht do u think u guys upto.....u hav no clue wht u guys hav done.its juss basically coz u freaks lack knowledge....other think is if u guys ver so desperstee y dint u draw ur moms naked biyaches....N TRUST ME I SWEAR BY ALLAH MY WITNESS...if any 1 of u MOTHER FUCKERS CUM IN FRONT OF ME U R NO less DEN BARBEQUED DICKz......n n dis is for thomas vedel.....u top my grudge list......
ahsan |
01.Feb.06 - 14:06 | #
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ncheddak ya weld al 9ahba nehwik ma mrabiakch mok kif ma yanbaghi.j'esperts de tout mon coeur que DIEU te fera payes tous ca le plus vite possible.LA ILAHA ILLA ALLAH MOUHAMMAD RASSOULO ALLAH.ALLAHO AKBAR DIEU EST GRAND EST ETERNANT
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01.Feb.06 - 14:16 | #
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what a feeling? It is very bad indeed to fight over a couple of cartoons. Leave Mohammed alone and leave the Danish chees alone too, because we don't want to loose the good taste.
Muslims are like spoiled children, they act as if they are going to loose their religion if someone teased them.. This is their weakness spot and they have to do something about it. But generally speaking we should not interfere in their religion.
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01.Feb.06 - 14:36 | #
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when people are insecure about themselves and they are not happy within..... they look up to others and envy them ... out of jelousy people like u try to feel good abt yourself by insulting and attacking othr faith...
from UK...
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01.Feb.06 - 14:36 | #
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well guess wht... u stupid little narrow stinky minded Homosapien.... the pictues u published NOT about freedom of speech... ur intension is to create tention and anger as well as insultin the messenger of Allah.... I dont knw wht u luk like... but ur Creater does... may he infect you with somethin that has no cure....
uk
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01.Feb.06 - 14:54 | #
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You muslims take your religion too seriously. But feel free to do that if it makes u (=you ) happy. But let US have our freedom of speech.
I CAN understand some of those pictures were insulting to someone devoting his life to some religious figure (in this case Muhammed).If you can´t take it don´t read our magazines...
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01.Feb.06 - 14:56 | #
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Hey Bloody People what do u think of yourself, I strongly beleive in GOD and I have faith on Him. I am sure that U people suffer a lot. GOD will show soon, Wait for it U have to pay and I am dam sure U will pay it soon, Wait for your BARBADI its on the way.........
INDIA
MOHAMMAD AMJAD KHAN , india |
01.Feb.06 - 15:04 | #
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Y do you people want to create tension... hate... thare are enough of these things in the world.... Please use your Freedom of speech to teach peace......LOVE>>>>
Anonymous |
01.Feb.06 - 15:13 | #
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Wake Up Call For muslims....
Make Dwa's for each other....
remember Allah often...
Paradise is our key....
China.... |
01.Feb.06 - 15:21 | #
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i just cant understand why u hate muslims?? that what really make me wonder
this isnt press freedom this is just insulting a man .....a wonderful man
if someone insulted ur mother or father will u say (press freedom)???
u r not opposing him
u r just insulting him and saying about him things shouldnt be said about any human
our prophet muhamed (PBUH)
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01.Feb.06 - 15:23 | #
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I am amuslim who knows and understands that the conditions in this world are not determined by the actions of the non-muslims, It is determined by the actions of the Muslim, When mankind act upon that which ALLAH (Most High) has commanded As shown By the Prophet Mughammad ; good conditions will prevail even for the animals, and when mankind is not on the Path of those who were guided before us; then bad conditions will prevail for everyone; and the pious will be affected by it first.
Moghammad Faiez Evans |
01.Feb.06 - 15:39 | #
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am very upset abt the pictures u published... about the LAST & FINAL Prophet .... please accept ur guilty and also accept ur punnishment......
England....
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01.Feb.06 - 15:49 | #
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to the developer and submitters of the drawings.the web hosting companys and anyone involved with this nonsence
See how your life will take a turn for the worst.
Then think of me telling u 2
remember to stop and think of the drawings you made of the greatest man to walk this earth. (PBUH)
may you burn in the fires of HELL !!!
njoy the rest of your sad lifes.
I will be praying that you suffer a horrible painful death.
Muhammad |
01.Feb.06 - 15:56 | #
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You need a better server - it takes forever to download. Thanks for publishing these cartoons. They're not particularly funny but at least we know now what all the fuss is about
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01.Feb.06 - 15:58 | #
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Free Speech , that was the reason I stocked up my fridge with Danish goods yesterday . Looks like I will be buying Frenmch Wine and Cheese tomorrow.
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01.Feb.06 - 16:00 | #
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For the reference and edification of those who live in countries without freedom of speech: in free countries, freedom of speech does in fact include freedom to insult and mock, ESPECIALLY the freedom to insult and mock public figures, including religious figures. For instance, the film "Monty Python's Life of Brian" mocks the life of Jesus, and the film "Wholly Moses" did the same for Moses. Another film, "The Last Temptation of Christ", told the story of Jesus in a manner that offended many Christians. An artist named Andres Serrano photographed a crucifix submerged in his urine and called it "Piss Christ. But guess what? In free countries, this is all protected as free expression. That's what freedom is.
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01.Feb.06 - 16:09 | #
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I gree with the newspaper, that the profit Mohammed is the main terrorist, he also loves womens too much, he has 40 women.
What you should call the man whom love womens, who spread out the Islam by sord ,blod and killing .
We also see that only muslims whom is killing the humanbeing, non any other civilization do this.
It really the holy Mohammed ???
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01.Feb.06 - 16:10 | #
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WE RESPECT RELIGON..WE DO NOT MOCK GOD AND PROPETS AND CALL IT FREEDOM OF SPEECH..IF U WANNA MOCK YOUR PUBLIC FIGURES..FOR EXAMPLE UR SINGERS WHO RAPE KIDS AND PRESIDENTS WHO GET BLOW JOBS ON THEIR DESKS..THATS UP TO U..JUST DONT EXPECT THE WHOLE WORLD TO DO THE SAME..
WE RESPECT AND BELIEVE IN OUR RELIGION IT IS 100 PERCENT RIGHT AND TRUE..IF U BELIEVE OTHERWISE THAN ITS BECAUSE U R A NON BELIEVER AND UR IN FOR THE SURPRISE OF UR LIFE ON THE DAY OF JUDGMENT..TO GEORGE
AND TO MORKOUS
WOMEN IS A PLURAL WORD..U DO NOT HAVE TO ADD AN S IN THE END..U IDIOT
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01.Feb.06 - 16:20 | #
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1# my message to muslims : wake up and defend your religion and your prophet, not by violence but intelligence. prove you are better; become the idols in this world. it is you who gave up your religion and dignity , you gave up your lives to others to mess with, however and whenever they like. defend ALLAH, ALLAH defends you. it is our job and mission to prove to those people the greatness of islam.
2# my message to all others: wait, and you will witness the proof and you will know the truth; soon, very soon. you want to understand real and genuine muslime, learn about islam and you will understand us. do not judge islam according to muslims' behaviour, but judge muslims according to islam and then you will know that islam is a great religion that was spread by a great messenger and prophet who was sent by ALLAH the greatest. i ask ALLAH for his forgiveness, support and help.
7afeed al farooque |
01.Feb.06 - 16:21 | #
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I suggest u educate urself, about the last prophet before you talk anything that comes out of you ASS!!!!!!!!!!!
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01.Feb.06 - 16:21 | #
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POOR MORKOUS..DOESNT KNOW HOW TO SPELL OR WRITE CORRECTLY..
THE PROPHET DOES NOT SPREAD ISLAM BY SWORD..WHY DONT U FUCKIN LOOK AT THE AMERICANS WHO INVADED IRAQ FOR PETROL..AND MOTHER FUCKER SHARON(MAY HE LIVE AND DIE AS A COW)WHO MURDERS YOUNG CHILDREN AND WOMEN EVERYDAY..
AMERICANS (THE TRUE TRUE TERRORISTS)ARE THE ONES SPREADING WAR AND BLOOD..CLAIMING TO MAKE THE WORLD A MORE PEACEFUL PLACE..WHO DIED AND MADE BUSH KING OF THE WORLD..HE CAN STOP SCREWING WITH THE WORLD AND AMERICANS AND IRAQIS LIVES AND GO FUCK HIS MOM LIKE HE USED TO
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01.Feb.06 - 16:25 | #
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to the publishers : you could look for another way to make your "unintersting" newspapers read .... and you should be grateful to Muslims to have made of it the event of the day...
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01.Feb.06 - 16:25 | #
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to the publishers : you could look for another way to make your "unintersting" newspapers read .... and you should be grateful to Muslims to have made of it the event of the day...
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01.Feb.06 - 16:25 | #
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(This is a letter sent to the Ambassador of Denmark)
We trust that this will find you in the best of health and happiness, may God bless and guide you, your family and Colleagues, amen.
We are addressing this letter to your kind self on the issue of the offensive cartoons that were published by a Danish paper recently. While we fully appreciate freedom of expression of the Danish people, by this letter we are focusing on the depth of the injury and pain inflicted on our psyches, because the kind Prophet (peace be upon Him) was not only popular and widely acclaimed and trusted by his followers, during His time, but also by people of other faiths. Furthermore, he was so good a human being who sacrificed His own life for the sake of humanity, and hardly enjoyed even the basic necessities of life, while He could very well have had the highest of luxuries of the time, if He had so wished. Therefore, even considering Him to be a selfless and humanitarian fellow being, you would kindly agree that He does not deserve to be remembered this way as depicted by the caricature.
Furthermore, if at all your Highness deems the views expressed herein or those by Muslims all over the world to be just a fanatical reflex on the issue, we would like to place before you the following testimonies made by outstanding Non-Muslim personalities of the world, which point to the greatness of the personality called Mohammed (peace be upon Him).
THE GIST OF PROPHET MOHAMMED’S (PBUH) BIOGRAPHY:
He was an illiterate orphan from Makkah who changed the whole world. Starting with fewer than ten dedicated followers in the beginning of his mission, the followers grew to more than one billion people, recognizing Him as their prophet and the most ideal role model. Since then, the whole world has changed in a very unprecedented way that will never be duplicated.
LET THE PEOPLE WHO DID NOT BELIEVE IN HIM, SPEAK ABOUT HIS ATTRIBUTES!
ENCYCLOPEDIA BRITANNICA confirms:
"....a mass of details in the early sources show that he was an honest and upright man who had gained the respect and loyalty of others, who were like-wise honest and upright men." (Vol. 12)
MICHAEL H. HART in his book on ratings of men who contributed towards the benefit and upliftment of mankind writes:
"My choice of Muhammad to lead the list of the world's most influential persons may surprise some readers and may be questioned by others, but he was the only man in history who was supremely successful on both the religious and secular levels."
(M.H. Hart, THE 100: A RANKING OF THE MOST INFLUENTIAL PERSONS IN HISTORY, New York, 1978, p. 33)
GEORGE BERNARD SHAW said about him:
"He must be called the Savior of Humanity. I believe that if a man like him were to assume the dictatorship of the modern world, he would succeed in solving its problems in a way that would bring it much needed peace and happiness."
(THE GENUINE ISLAM, Singapore, Vol. 1, No. 8, 1936)
He was by far
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01.Feb.06 - 16:30 | #
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Allah is the only god and Prophet Mohamed PBUH is his messenger..the message has been protected throughout history and will be protected by Allah till the end of time..THE QURAN is a miracle..it is the only book untouched by the ignorance of humans..all the oother books have been rewritten and so have alot of errors..if u r a true christian or jew you will find errors and contradictions in ur so called holy books(u know its true)..i thank god everyday for being a muslim..and not having to go through life as an ignorant atheist..
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01.Feb.06 - 16:33 | #
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Al Hamdullilla 3alla ne3met el Islam
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01.Feb.06 - 16:36 | #
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Why this obssession with Muslims and Islam?
Muslims have left you alone when you decided it is right to fuck each others anus.... why are you so hot under the collar when they marry four wives? Are you also envious? I thought homosexuals are not envious for women...I am wrong!
As for your so-called freedom of press and speech, well, let's talk about the holocaust!
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01.Feb.06 - 16:47 | #
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7ASBENO ALLAH WA NE3MA AL WAKEEL TO EVERYBODY WHO HATES MUSLIMS OR AGREE WITH THOSE CARTOONS
MUSLIM |
01.Feb.06 - 16:50 | #
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To Anonymous: I have refrained from mocking anyone's spelling or usage, since I figure that the people in question are likely not native English speakers. But if you are going to criticize others' errors, look to yourself. In the post in which you pointed out the incorrect plural "womens", you had the following misspellings and usage errors: RELIGON, PROPETS, UR, DONT, ITS (in that context, should have been "IT'S")
That's without even counting U for YOU, WANNA, or R for ARE.
While you're reflecting on your poor spelling, consider laying off the Caps Lock as well.
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01.Feb.06 - 16:50 | #
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Try to imagine how it feels to have a spiritually opennes to the world instead of living with spiritual poverty that followers of abstract monotheism do.. atheism puts HUMANS begore religious laws.. we believe in constant spiritual LEARNING - not cutting ourselves of and blind our vision by focusing on (poorly) constructed monotheistic laws! It is no hell to be an atheist! It is pure spiritual freedom! I respect your choice of religion - please get of your moral high horse and respect others philosophy og life.. thank you - this was not ment to get you angry - just to make you realize that your choice of meaning in the world cannot be extrapolated to the rest of mankind.. Best wishes
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01.Feb.06 - 16:52 | #
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Try to imagine how it feels to have a spiritually opennes to the world instead of living with spiritual poverty that followers of abstract monotheism do.. atheism puts HUMANS begore religious laws.. we believe in constant spiritual LEARNING - not cutting ourselves of and blind our vision by focusing on (poorly) constructed monotheistic laws! It is no hell to be an atheist! It is pure spiritual freedom! I respect your choice of religion - please get of your moral high horse and respect others philosophy og life.. thank you - this was not ment to get you angry - just to make you realize that your choice of meaning in the world cannot be extrapolated to the rest of mankind.. Best wishes
From an ignorant atheist |
01.Feb.06 - 16:52 | #
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To George.... am English.. u dom fuk... ths is my sht hnd... wht the hell u on abt......???????????
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01.Feb.06 - 17:02 | #
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to george..ILL LAY OFF THE CAPS JUST FOR UR NAME..COZ IT DOESNT DESERVE TO BE IN CAPS..TYPING U INSTEAD OF YOU IS NOT A MISTAKE..IM JUST KEEPING IT SHORT..LIKE EVERYONE ELSE ..TOO BAD UR NEW TO THIS AND U DONT UNDERSTAND THAT
ANYWAYS..IM NOT GONNA(NOTICE HOW I SPELLED IT)WASTE ANYMORE TIME TALKING TO YOU
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01.Feb.06 - 17:13 | #
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if you would only learn about Islam ..you would understand that it is a whole complete religion..in Islam when you r spirtualy connected to go u will feel protected..always.u will always have a greater power to turn to when things are not working for you.u can depend on god to help you through hardships.if u pray and ask AllAH for help He will never let you down.
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01.Feb.06 - 17:18 | #
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to atheist:we have to have rules to live by..we cant just live with no limits on whats right and whats wrong.we cant put these rules for ourselves..because we are only humans and humans make errors..that is why we follow a religion..thats why we follow Islam..all the rules are perfect..if u follow this religion..you would never be confused about life.you would understand where your going in the afterlife
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01.Feb.06 - 17:23 | #
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Great website. It demonstrates why we have the right to free speech. Some people may prefer to accuse you of islamophobia but I think the fundamental message is that everyone has the right to express themselves as long as they aren't directly hurting anyone.
And to some of the other posters, I can only say: DOWN WITH HATEMAIL AND THREATS! UP WITH DEMOCRACY AND FREEDOM!
Fabien
Luxembourg
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01.Feb.06 - 17:41 | #
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SALMA: "we cant just live with no limits on whats right and whats wrong"
Atheists DO have perfectly clear limits on whats right and whats wrong:
It is absolutely WRONG to threaten people for what they speak or draw!
If you don't like it, DON'T LOOK.
Mind *your* own business, and what other people are thinking, writing or drawing is NOT YOUR FUCKING BUSINESS!
By saying this I DO NOT pretend to prevent you to spit out the shitload of badly written gibberish which is filling most comments here.
I only remind you that it is illegal in all well behaved countries to issue death threats to other people.
You have a right to complain, not a right to act against the law.
Do you notice a difference here?
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01.Feb.06 - 17:49 | #
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can i just say something...since u r all talking abt freedom of speech...
if i come up to one of u..and say
hey dude..i think that ur mom is a whore and that ur dad is gay..would u be so openminded abt it and believe me when i say"what r u so pissed abt,its only freedom of speech"i dont think so..ur gonna cuss and fight back to prove to me the opposite..because my freedom of speech shit was offensive...do u now get the picture or r ur brains too thick to absorb
SALMA |
01.Feb.06 - 17:49 | #
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BTW, any other complaints?
(See URL)
Realist |
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01.Feb.06 - 17:56 | #
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i have the right to do whatever i want..i dont need u telling me what to do and what not to do..i know my limits well thank you very much.
i have every right to protect my religion from anything and anyone.i will do it in whichever way i find right.if i see that punshing u in the face is right..then ill do it
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01.Feb.06 - 18:05 | #
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SELMA: "fight back to prove to me the opposite..because my freedom of speech shit was offensive"
EXACTLY!
What am I doing here?
I do find death threats an offensive shit and objects to this, without returning threats or insults.
Where is the problem?
Your brain?
You raised this issue about brains "too thick to absorb", shall we debate this ? 
Realist |
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01.Feb.06 - 18:06 | #
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SELMA: "i have the right to do whatever i want..i dont need u telling me what to do and what not to do"
PERFECT!
So do I...
But for a little difference, I am not engaging in ILLEGAL activities.
Like death threats or actual killings!
Realist |
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01.Feb.06 - 18:10 | #
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who started the offensive shit from the first place ,thick head..u did..the danes did..and they r calling it freedom of speech.to us..their freedom of speech is very offensive.its as offensive as the death threats ur getting..and where i come from it is illegal to use freedom of speech in an offensive manner.i dont need to have a debate about brains with someone who doesnt have a clue about them.
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01.Feb.06 - 18:21 | #
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Of course you think rules are good when you are used to follow them. They are a cusion - a protection - a guide - a comfort... when you have them you find it hard to be without them... you will feel naked - empty without them. But if you try to imagine never to have based your existence according to pregivens you will discover a world where 'an open mind' feels like a warm and giving thing - it teaches you to be humbel over lifes many facets and tolerant towards different ways of life! You will be able to absorb a multitude of spiritual principels that will be constantly renewed as life progresses. Atheism is not witout rules - you just have a stronger influence on the rules that you follow. Pregiven (and in your view unfallable) rules are dangerous: they 'box' your vision to a limited set of truths which make up the basis for (potential) fanaticism when you discover that the rest of the world finds these truths pretty boring... Im not saying you are not open minded! Just dont attack atheism as being an empty shell - it is extremely enriching actually! Best wishes
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Of course you think rules are good when you are used to follow them. They are a cusion - a protection - a guide - a comfort... when you have them you find it hard to be without them... you will feel naked - empty without them. But if you try to imagine never to have based your existence according to pregivens you will discover a world where 'an open mind' feels like a warm and giving thing - it teaches you to be humbel over lifes many facets and tolerant towards different ways of life! You will be able to absorb a multitude of spiritual principels that will be constantly renewed as life progresses. Atheism is not witout rules - you just have a stronger influence on the rules that you follow. Pregiven (and in your view unfallable) rules are dangerous: they 'box' your vision to a limited set of truths which make up the basis for (potential) fanaticism when you discover that the rest of the world finds these truths pretty boring... Im not saying you are not open minded! Just dont attack atheism as being an empty shell - it is extremely enriching actually! Best wishes
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01.Feb.06 - 18:26 | #
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SALMA: "freedom of speech is very offensive.its as offensive as the death threats"
It looks that you misunderstand freedom of speech, it is NOT about issuing death threats.
"where i come from it is illegal to use freedom of speech in an offensive manner"
You are not in Denmark then!
So, could you mind your own business in YOUR OWN COUNTRY!
Danes have nothing to do with you, do they come against you *in your country*?
Realist |
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01.Feb.06 - 18:31 | #
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to Realist... please understand our prophet is worth more then our life...... so please educate urself before u insult a innocent man.. the last and final prophet of all mankind....
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First of all i would like to clear one thing.
Why muslims are angry for the pictures that were claimed to be the prophet?
first of all you have pictured the prophet in an ugly picture that does not discribe him at all phisically.
from all of the histiory books that were written i am telling you this:
the prophets face was wight with some redness in it not as a eurpean but he didnt have a sandy skin too he was the lightest sandy skin their was that people in the middle east call it wight that people said that you see the moon light and sun shine in his face.he wasnt so tall nor so short he was between the tow.he had broad sholders.he had a dark hair the colour of midnight it wasnt curly nor was it straight, it was between the tow its lenght was till the ear lob and he had a few wight hairs in his head and beard that are not more than twenty.his face was round like a moon in the sky with its beauty and light as the sun shine when he smiles you see the happines all over his face.he had a wide mouth and the arabs consuder that a sign of beauty.and he had beautiful large eyes.his hands were wide and big and as soft as silk,and his feet were big but also soft he had the strength in his bones and muscles but his skin was as soft as silk.his hands were cold and had the smell of "misk" which is a very beautifull smell and very expensive that they extract it from the gazals woomb after giving birth.we have lots of sayings from the prophets freind they all said that when they shook the hands of the prophet and he had sweaty hands and it would smell like"misk" as if that perfume comes out of his vaines.and they all agreed that they have never smelled a smell like the prophets.
his legs were wight and shiney.his under arm was wight with no hair for he was a clean person. and in islam you have to take out the hair to be clean because its a place were the body gets the sweat out.
if the prophet walked in a street he walkes very fast as if he is coming down from a hill that no one can follow him at the same speed.
thoes were the prophet phisical look and you are welcome to make sure of what i have written.
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is it really interesting what he really looked like? Or how fast he was walking? I mean, common!
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Jay: "please understand our prophet is worth more then our life"
FINE FOR YOU!
This is your opinion, I have no objection for you to say this.
However, this is NOT MY OPINION, therefore I will act according to my opinion, and you to yours.
Thus we will likely end up killing each other :-(
Though I am not too eager to do that, to me it is just a WASTE.
But if you come by and insist...
Realist |
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01.Feb.06 - 18:38 | #
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if you realy want to find out... wht he looked lik...and stuff please refere to Prophet sirat....
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01.Feb.06 - 18:39 | #
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that will be honour... cos... then i will get free paradise...
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01.Feb.06 - 18:40 | #
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Please... u'll do me a favour... after all anything for the prophet would b worth wile...
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01.Feb.06 - 18:44 | #
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Anon: "that will be honour... cos... then i will get free paradise"
Your bet!
If we are going to look at crazy hypothesis, would not that be a real boon the day the Israelis (or the Russian, or the Chinese, or...) will nuke Mecca?
A whole lot going to free paradise at once!
TOTAL NONSENSE!
As I suggested before, try Risperidone:
http://www.google.com/search?
hl=...G=Google+Search
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i am disgraced at the fact that the people of today have nothing counterproductive to do, and that they can only target Islam. it is disgusting to know how others feel about something that so many love- Islam, a way of life. they only do this because of the recent events, and they are merely frigthend of it happening to them. little do they know, that on the day of judgemnt, we will all be questioned about what sins we have committed in our lives. these people will suffer severly by ALLAH(SWT) because of their unneccesary and ashameful behaviour. i just hope that other people identify ISLAM as an idylli lifestyle and blessing to us all. AMEEN
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Allah will protect the kaba and the people who are there....
no worries abt that
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ur so ryt cuz datz wher ALLAH(SWT)'S house is and it iz a beutiful place 2
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OUR RELIGION IS SACRED..it is not a topic for mockery and its not for u to draw pictures abt...if u do that we have every right to react in whichever way we find appropriate..and if i were faced with u right now..i would shove those cartoons up ur mother fuckin ass
to realist
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we respect all the other religions belivers(christians and jews)and we belive in jesus as profit and we belive his original massage(not the deviated one created by the christians through ages,and this is the point of differnce between us still we respect thier relegoin)i know you didn't know that we belive in jesus and mosses and ibraham and all of his good and kind profits(gods peace be upon them),i don't respect the one who has nothing to belive in,we never insult any of the belived for other relegions,mohammed(god's peace and blessing be upon him)was sent with a massage about peace and good for all humanity 1427 years ago,i bit you didn't know this piece of information you think he was only few years ago,do you think if it was a bad massage it would live all these years,and gather all those billions of people through those years?i don't think so,please first you have to know him and read about his massage from his point of view and his life(not what you find in your books),then even if you don't want to follow him,at least you have to respect our beliving in god and the massage which was sent with his profit mohammed,if you didn't,don't expect from us to respect you or not to defend our belived.
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no ones going to be able to nuke Macca..OTHER PLACES WILL BE NUKED..JUST LIKE THE TWIN TOWERS IN SHITTY america
places that r not protected by god..because of all the sinners living in it...remember when the americans watched while their country was blowing up..we were celebrating that incident here in Egypt..
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01.Feb.06 - 19:06 | #
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hey, this is life!
why don't you just close your eyes if you don't like what you see.
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A lot of people dont understand why muslims were angry.its not just because the prophet was drawn its because the way he was drawn i have written a comment about the prophets phisical look earlier and now i am writing a bout his carecter so people would understand more.
i have taken all thease from history books so for all the people who thinks that this is from my imagination i tell them to look for the prophets looks and carecter and we will see who is talking facts here.the prophet was a very generous man he gave a lot without taking any thing. when he was left to choose between tow things he chose the easiest unless it was a sin.he was more shy than a vergion in her wedding night.he never criticised food if he didnt like it he would not eat it. when he talks he talks slowly, wisley and not continuosley.his "hadeeth"=sayings were countable that meens he didnt talk alot.he didnt like backstabbing and he told his friends never to do so.he was the bravest of men and the finest manners.he had a servant his name was anas ibn malik :he said i have worked for the prophet for 10 years he never said "oooph" or to any thing that i have done, why did you do that? or even made me an order to do anything."the prophet had never criticised anything.when ever he was asked for anything he never said no, he gave without fear of poverty.he was nice with children and Patient hert and pain.he smiles when some one talks to him and hold his hand and never takes it until the person takes his hand away first.
he faces the person infront of him as if their was no one important but him that the person feels that the prophet loves him more than others.he would talk to children and play with them. he would visit free men and slaves and poor people and sick ones.if some one wanted to talk to him by wispering in his ear he would be the first to bend his head to listen.he would be the first to adress people with the islamic welcome wich is "salam alaikom" which means peace be upon you.he was the best with his family and would be patient when they mistake and act as if he didnt see that.and he would help in the house work, he would fix his showes and saw his clothes.if a child wants to talk to him he would hold his hand and go with him where ever he wants.he would sit with poor people and doesnt have a drop of arrogance in him.if he comes into a gathering he doesnt ask to be seated at the center but he sits where ever the last person has came eaven if it was at the end of the place.he would hate if some one would stand for him and treet him as a king and tells people never to exagerate his carecter.he was very wise and quiet if he whants to laugh he smiles and never talkes unless when its needed.if he hated something it shows on his face he did not feel something and acted another.he was not accesive or spoiled and he didnt spend his time in the markets and he never damned any one. he never faced sin with sin or hatred with hatred but he was merciful and forgives.he
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sorry,but we r not cowards..if we dont like what we see we speak out.we dont bury our heads in the sand..maybe u should do that..ur used to it
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ah,i have a comment on the free speech(actually profit mohammed teached us this freedom 1427yours ago before you,I still that you have to read more about him)in your western countries if you insult or attack some one he will sue you,and even if you say that the holocost is a big lie you go for a trial and prison,this is your free of speech rules,think about that and after thinking,if you still have the slightest respect for your self and brains you will understand what we are speaking about.
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Stupid people don’t have sense of humor. So, Muslims every day prove self stupidity. I am atheist and never revolted when someone mocked atheism or my ideology authorities. I accepted it as opinion, with I can opposite with intellect and logical argumentation, not with brutal force or censorship. Muslims (or Christians) can’t defend their religion with true facts or logic, so they chose violence, censorship, ignoring and assault. It is pity, that Muslims in West countries try to crate the same order, form with they escaped. Respect to Denmark and France.
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01.Feb.06 - 19:24 | #
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Stupid people don’t have sense of humor. So, Muslims every day prove self stupidity. I am atheist and never revolted when someone mocked atheism or my ideology authorities. I accepted it as opinion, with I can opposite with intellect and logical argumentation, not with brutal force or censorship. Muslims (or Christians) can’t defend their religion with true facts or logic, so they chose violence, censorship, ignoring and assault. It is pity, that Muslims in West countries try to crate the same order, form with they escaped. Respect to Denmark and France.
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01.Feb.06 - 19:24 | #
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I am neither a Christian or a Muslim but I find these cartoons pretty lame. They arent funny at all and most of them are poorly drawn. And the best part is your own pathetic narration.
Good that I am not from Europe; they really suck
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First when I read & saw the cartoons of blasphemy about Prophet Mohamed (Peace be upon Him)I felt anger, but now I realise how puny & underdeveloped your brains are.As the saying goes (an idle mind,is the devils workshop)! You should at all circumstance respect & tolerate all religions, regardles of cast & creed. Do not challenge the unseen power. For, the wrath of Allmighty Allah will be devastating beyond all imagination that your small brain could ever fathom! Never make jokes on religions. "A Muslim" living in Europe in peace & harmony with other fellow beings! Let wisdom & tolerance prevail over you & your folks is my only wish, with ALLAH`S BLESSINGS! Live & let Live in peace.
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v joycys..if u like it when people mock ur stupid ideas..fine..we dont have to accept it just coz u do..ur an atheist because u wanna do whatever u wanna do...we have rules to follow..so that we dont end up having all the sick crimes of the west..the stuff we see on tv is revolting..the perverts,the homosexuals,the sex addicts,people walking naked in the streets asking for rights of god knows what..
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sorry I forgot to till you the great news for you,it happens that I'am the manager of purchasing and medicine store and general pharmacy supervisor for my institution(and it is a big one)I cut all country products from my medicne store,hyyyyyyyyyyy
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01.Feb.06 - 19:33 | #
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DR.Shaban.ur the greatest..we will all boycott shitty dane stuff and french stuff too here in Egypt
yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
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He was never angry and he never seeks revenge unless it was for allah then he will act on justice.
he had never hit a child or a women in his life like a coward but he faces his enemies by raising his sowrd for justice and to raise the name of allah.he was never arrogant or triumph or victoriuos when he wins a war. it has been said that when the prophet won in makkah he enterd the ka'aba quietly bending his head that his chin was just about to reach his hourses head for he was thankfull for god that their was no actual fighting, he started to walk around the ka'abah when a man saw him and froze because he thought that he was a king like the kings in this land, the prophet told him " dont worry i am the son of a women who used to eat as you in makka".he didnt care for the indulgence in this life that he used to sleep on the floor under him the leeves of palm trees and he would axcept anything. a month would go by and he would not have food but dates he would turn around from hunger and wouldnt find anything to eat. he would give the food to others and he will starve he used to carey tow stones and tie them around his stomech to stop the hunger, and it has been said that for the last three days that he had lived he ate nothing but brown bread.he was merciful with his people when god gave him anything he wanted that would come true he asked to save it for his people in judgement day he said:"for every prophet god has given him something that they will ask for and it will be granted, and every prophet had asked it for himself, but i have asked god to sve it to my people in judgement day and if god is willing it will be granted for any one that beleives that their is no god but allah and that i am his prophet."
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all the muslims are fasting tomorrow..and will pray to Allah at sunset(time of iftar).Let it be an hour of prayer.
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100 million muslim says mohamed is the
best man in life . mohamed massenger for loving and peace .mohamed massenger for humanty . but d.people dont know how is mohamed .please reading and listened to him before hit him ..
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fuck the west, Your religion is weak as You anger if you afraid humor, pointed to your religion. I don’t afraid humor pointed to atheism, because my position is logically strong and argue and nobody can destroy it. I know how to defend my position with logical minds, so I can laugh together with people which make jokes about my opinion and can create jokes about myself. You can,t? – So you are weak and stupid and afraid, that someone can see your stupidity and weakness and so you became angry.
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01.Feb.06 - 19:51 | #
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fuck the west, Your religion is weak as You anger if you afraid humor, pointed to your religion. I don’t afraid humor pointed to atheism, because my position is logically strong and argue and nobody can destroy it. I know how to defend my position with logical minds, so I can laugh together with people which make jokes about my opinion and can create jokes about myself. You can,t? – So you are weak and stupid and afraid, that someone can see your stupidity and weakness and so you became angry.
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01.Feb.06 - 19:51 | #
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What had been written and drawn about the prophet were lies and drawings that doesnt describe him and that is lieying in the day of light about a person that is perfect no his is perfection it self and when you ask for the freedom of speech we ask for the truth YOU CANNOT DRAW A PICTURE OF A PERSON THAT DOES NOT DESCRIBE HIM FOR THIS IS LIES AND A WAY OF RUINING PEOPLES REPUETATION WITHOUT ANY BASIS. if any one has read some thing about the prophet that describe him in the way that thoes pictures did let him speak for i will listen and will answer with facts and no emotions but dont be cawards and try to hide your lies under the name of freedom of speech. for lying is a coward wepon. in my previous comments i have said try to learn about the prophet and islam then make your judgment but i know that most of the people wont do that so it is my responsability to tell the truth about my prophet.muslims now cannot be compared or simuelated as the prophet as for christians now no preist or eaven the pope can be compared with jesus, so leave the prophets out of this and dont talk about the dead because they cant answer you back, you have anything to say about muslims then talk about the people you are seeing now not the ones who died 1500 years ago.
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to joyce..u dont respect ur point of view and ur ideas..thats why u joke abt it and accept people making fun of we.
my religion is sacred..and i dont want anyone messing with it.its not for u to laugh abt.laugh abt ur sick culture and leave our great reigion alone.
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01.Feb.06 - 20:02 | #
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shewayet welad weskha
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01.Feb.06 - 20:04 | #
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Thanx for the forum to express my sympathy to freedom. Where are all demonstrations against those islamic fundamentalists. We should be proud of our european culture. We can anytime leave all their products to shopshelves and turn to danish producers!!!!!!1
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Salma, Yes, I don’t respect your religion, because I think, that it is stupid, primitive and brutal, as Your God. But I never tried to shut up people as You. I don’t respect your religion, but I respect your right to have yourself opinion and right to tell it free for all, no matter, how I don’t like it. My position is that you are always free to talk to me or other people to turn them on your side. Because you can’t accept opinion, which you don’t like and all what you don’t like you identify as offense… Muslims till now are stick-in-the-mud, no discussion – no changes and progress.
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01.Feb.06 - 20:21 | #
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Salma, Yes, I don’t respect your religion, because I think, that it is stupid, primitive and brutal, as Your God. But I never tried to shut up people as You. I don’t respect your religion, but I respect your right to have yourself opinion and right to tell it free for all, no matter, how I don’t like it. My position is that you are always free to talk to me or other people to turn them on your side. Because you can’t accept opinion, which you don’t like and all what you don’t like you identify as offense… Muslims till now are stick-in-the-mud, no discussion – no changes and progress.
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Is it too much to ask for a proper tone of voice? Please... this is supposed to be a forum of discussion - but it seems like (especially) the muslims at this forum have a deep desire for revenge... it is shameful that people who claim a moral superior ground is so strucken by the sickness of avenging! As we lack the knowledge of islam you to completely misunderstands the West... you base your knowledge on TV - like TV gives an accurate description of the West! Get real - The West is a beatiful place filled with good and tolerant people... but you dont see that! Why are you so quick to judge and at the same time lamenting us for our lack of knowledge of Islam? True - some in the West are bad people - and some muslim are to - neither culture are superior - we both have to be here... Your hate the West for not living up to YOUR standards!? Please stop that! Leave us alone in our "moral misery" - some of us actually want the West to be like it is... dont try to change it!
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somebody will answer that question. why they always insulat, attack, degrease islam and tje prophit?
why muslims do not do the same with jessus and Moussa?
that is the difference
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Today humanity is being challenged. Unthinkable atrocities take place on daily basis. There is an evil force at work that aims to destroy us. The agents of this evil respect nothing; not even the lives of children. Every day there are bombings, every day innocent people are targeted and murdered. It seems as if we are helpless. But we are not!
The ancient Chinese sage Sun Zi said, "Know your enemy and you won't be defeated". Do we know our enemy? If we don't, then we are doomed.
Terrorism is not an ideology, it is a tool; but the terrorists kill for an ideology. They call that ideology Islam.
The entire world, both Muslims and non-Muslims claim that the terrorists have hijacked "the religion of peace" and Islam does not condone violence.
Who is right? Do the terrorists understand Islam better, or do those who decry them? The answer to this question is the key to our victory, and failure to find that key will result in our loss and death will be upon us. The key is in the Quran and the history of Islam.
Those of us, who know Islam, know that the understanding of the terrorists of Islam is correct. They are doing nothing that their prophet did not do and did not encourage his followers to do. Murder, rape, assassination, beheading, massacre and sacrilege of the dead "to delight the hearts of the believers" were all practiced by Muhammad, were taught by him and were observed by Muslims throughout their history.
If truth has ever mattered, it matters most now! This is the time that we have to call a spade a spade. This is the time that we have to find the root of the problem and eradicate it. The root of Islamic terrorism is Islam. The proof of that is the Quran.
We are a group of ex-Muslims who have seen the face of the evil and have risen to warn the world. No matter how painful the truth may be, only truth can set us free. Why this much denial? Why so much obstinacy? How many more innocent lives should be lost before YOU open your eyes? A nuclear disaster is upon us. This will happen. It is not a question of "if" but "when". Oblivious of that, the world is digging its head deeper in the sand.
We urge the Muslims to leave Islam. Stop with excuses, justifications and rationalizations. Stop dividing mankind into "us" vs. "them" and Muslims vs. Kafirs. We are One people, One mankind! Muhammad was not a messenger of God. It is time that we end this insanity and face the truth. The terrorists take their moral support and the validation for their actions from you. Your very adherence to their cult of death is a nod of approval for their crimes against humanity.
We also urge the non-Muslims to stop being politically correct lest they hurt the sensitivities of the Muslims. To Hell with their sensitivities! Let us save their lives, and the lives of millions of innocent people.
Millions, if not billions of lives will be lost if we do nothing. Time is running out! "All it takes for e
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I see two ways of looking at this -- although both may be present at once. Either (a) Jyllands Posten and its defenders are concerned about losing their freedom of speech, or (b) they have found and are making use of a defensible way of expressing hostility towards Muslims.
If (a) it'd be more consistent if Jyllands Posten would go on to do a series of charicatures involving Jesus doing obscene things with children, Blacks eating watermelon, Jews with hooked noses, etc. After all, they wouldn't want their possible freedom of speech curtailed in any of these directions either.
I defend freedom of speech. People have a right to be as tacky and pointlessly offensive as they please. But that's all they're being: tacky and pointlessly offensive.
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To add another comment, a lot of Jylland Posten's defenders point out that they don't mind if someone ridicules a Jesus. ignoring the facts taht they no longer seriously believe in Jesus while Muslims DO seriously believe in the message of their prophet.
It would be more valid if those making this defense would consider their reaction to cartoons attacking something they DO believe in -- whether it be the chastity of their six year old daughter, homosexuals, or whatever. If they'd like to see Jyllands Posten full of that, then they can indeed defend the paper's behavior.
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Both a French and a German newspaper have reprinted a series of 12 Danish newspaper cartoons depicting Prophet Muhammad that have sparked protests in the Muslim world. I am hoping that all western countries do the same. They can't boycott all of us.
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Why we still support the import from those well known fundamendalistic countries? We all are consumers and it`s our power to make certain choices for world peace!
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HOW DARE THEY!!!! HOW DARE THEY! How dare Muslims, who forbid nonMuslims to practice paganism or even build Churches in Saudi Arabia try to stop Danes printing pictures in Denmark. HOW DARE THEY!
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"Why we still support the import from those well known fundamendalistic countries? We all are consumers and it`s our power to make certain choices for world peace!"
Indeed -- and 'consuming' such egregiously offensive cartoons as those published in Jyllands Posten is really going to help to bring about world peace.
The cartoons betray, in any case, gross ignorance. It's truly amazing how few people appear to have even read the Koran and have any idea of what it actually says. It's a very short book. To conflate Mohammed's message with the acts of some of his followers makes about as much sense as thinking Jesus endorsed burning heretics at the stake and decimating the population of the Americas.
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I beg to differ with you Mr. Wright. Some of us do seriously believe in Jesus and follow him in our daily lives. We have a personal relationship with Him. If I would happen to see picture of Jesus doing obscene things with children I would be greatly sadden, but I would still defend your right to express yourself. I believe that I do not have to defend my God. God should be quite capable of defending himself. I would not threaten your life because I happen to disagree with you, as a matter of fact I would defend your right to communicate your beliefs with my life.
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FUCK YOU ALLLL
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01.Feb.06 - 21:21 | #
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'HOW DARE THEY!!!!' Etc.
Curiously, no one gets angry at China when she protests against Japan's refusal to acknowledge her war crimes -- nor would most defend a politician caught making a grossly racist remark.
I think that the difference is that while people see the acts of 'free speech' in these cases as deplorable, they are all for attacks on Muslims. Of course, they can't say as much -- but they can be all for 'free speech.'
It's rank hypocrisy. Something Europeans seem to be especially good at.
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THE JESUS U WORSHIP IS NOT GOD..HE IS ONLY A PROPHET..AND THE PERSON U HAVE ALWAYS PICTURED IN UR MINDS IS NOT THE PROPHET JESUS.HE IS ONEOF JESUS'S TRAITORS..HOW COULD U THINKK T6HAT GOD IS ONLY A HUMAN BEING THAT WAS CRUCIFIED..DO U THINK WITH UR ASSES??
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You fucking owner of the newspaper.. i hope your mother gets fucked like a whore by a fucked up dog...If u have the balls come and stand up ....fucked up jack ass...
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Well
i know 4 sure that no muslim will ever think of doing what u have done!Islam respects all the Prophets.I am soory to say that this has nothing to do with Freedom of Speech as everyone calls it as it is an Insult to all the muslims around the world.I know u will pay 4 this on the day of judgement inshall.
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Hey Colin
While sympathetic to your views I fail to see the analogy between your examples and making fun of a prophet. But since you brought it up let me follow your track: we have now identified several topics we can possibly banish from the media. But why should we have the final say in that manner? - lets invite the leaders from all 500 religious groupings in Denmark - ask what they dont want in the news. After that we turn our eyes to the secular groups and give them the same opportunity to clean up the air from offensive elements. What a great free press we would have!
Im personally offended by all these people in foreign countries who wants to have an influence on what I as a Dane would want to see in my paper every morning - and are willing to threaten my country if my morning paper doesn't suit them...
sure - if my paper decided that child-molesting was cool stuff - well, I would strongly consider buying another paper. Pictures of Mohammad fails to provoke me, but they apparantly provoke millions of muslims. My advice for them: Please cancel your subsription to Jyllands-Posten and let me have my breakfastpaper in peace...
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Hey Colin
While sympathetic to your views I fail to see the analogy between your examples and making fun of a prophet. But since you brought it up let me follow your track: we have now identified several topics we can possibly banish from the media. But why should we have the final say in that manner? - lets invite the leaders from all 500 religious groupings in Denmark - ask what they dont want in the news. After that we turn our eyes to the secular groups and give them the same opportunity to clean up the air from offensive elements. What a great free press we would have!
Im personally offended by all these people in foreign countries who wants to have an influence on what I as a Dane would want to see in my paper every morning - and are willing to threaten my country if my morning paper doesn't suit them...
sure - if my paper decided that child-molesting was cool stuff - well, I would strongly consider buying another paper. Pictures of Mohammad fails to provoke me, but they apparantly provoke millions of muslims. My advice for them: Please cancel your subsription to Jyllands-Posten and let me have my breakfastpaper in peace...
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01.Feb.06 - 21:26 | #
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'I beg to differ with you Mr. Wright.'
Perhaps -- and perhaps the reaction of Saudi Arabia et al isn't the same as the one I would have.
However, this still doesn't make the actions of Jyllands Posten et al laudable. Certainly they can do it -- I can start up a website showing my neighbor's wife doing obscene things with a dog if I want to. My neighbor's reaction may even be inappropriate. It doesn't make my initial action somehow praiseworthy.
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01.Feb.06 - 21:28 | #
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I completely agree with colin wright
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01.Feb.06 - 21:29 | #
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I have read the Koran and have studied the life of Mohammad. I am well aware of who and what your prophet is and what the Koran states. Have you ever read the New Testament in which you criticize?
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01.Feb.06 - 21:31 | #
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year sure 'fuck the west' sounds like someone who is very agreeable! Having sex with an entire continent must be very exhausting for you..
ignorant atheist |
01.Feb.06 - 21:34 | #
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'Having sex with an entire continent must be very exhausting for you.'
Well, a man can dream. A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step, etc. I suppose he'll start somewhere like Prague.
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01.Feb.06 - 21:36 | #
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he he he... and then take 'the grand tour' in a westvard cycle crossing the blond and straightforward scandinavians ending with the darker and more mysterious southern europeans.. hmm... come to think of it: fuck the West!
ignorant atheist |
01.Feb.06 - 21:41 | #
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How loosen to read this free stream of more or less extensive thoughts. Let´s keep it on till they come and cut our throats in the name of their loving prophet....it´s just their way of act with pagans like us!
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01.Feb.06 - 21:53 | #
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Really, the most outstanding characteristic of the cartoons is their lameness. Of the twelve that will load for me, I find two both mildly clever and fairly justified, two fairly clever but quite unfair, and eight simply witlessly offensive. On the whole, it would be a bad day for Volkischer Beobachter on the Jewish question.
So what was the point? To establish that you have the right to be offensive? Okay, now go on to new fields of endevour: let's have cartoons about how Whites have smaller dicks than Blacks, faked pictures of the junior members of the House of Orange having sex with animals, and everything else you can think of that will infuriate some group or other.
Or was the intent only to infuriate Muslims? ...and under cover of the mantle of free speech? As I say, this can be done -- but I don't see much to take pride in.
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01.Feb.06 - 21:58 | #
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It was wonderful to see the power of the internet, a power lots and lots of tyrants all around the world - here in America no less than Saudi Arabi and Zimbabwe - would dearly love to destroy, allowing those intereseted to at least see what the furor of the cartoons depicting the Prophet Mohammed (Peace be upon him) was all about.
The problem with Islam, a problem that for the most part Christianity has outgrown, is it has till now never been exposed to an environment where it had no choice but to co-exist with not merely other faiths but with an extremely vigorous culture of non-faith. The atmosphere of medieval Europe was not far different in so far as tolerance was concerced. Mild Switzerland was the scene of horrific bloodshed that makes everyday life in Iraq look like a trip to Disneyland by comparison.
Islam and Muslims has to - eventually - grow up the way Christianity did. I sincerely hope the body count is much smaller than it was with the faith of the Lamb of God. Unfortunately the situation is unlikely to get better before it gets way worse. Of course, I could be wrong. One can only hope.
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All i whant to say that the prophet has endured alot of things in his life in order to deliver his message and as i mentiond earlier about his carechter if he was the one now facing this insult he would pray for god to open your eyes and have mercy on you by publishing the pictures you think you have huemiliated the prophet but nooo he is more lovable and rememberd now by all muslims.i am sorry to see some of the muslims reaction in the comments you speek in a discusting language that our prophet has told us not to we have our manners and way of speech if the west think that its ok to speek in filthy language so let them if they whant to insult their prophet then let them but not you. our prophet should be our idol and we should act as he would.and after all i should say THANK YOU DENMARK you have opend our eyes and united the muslims now more than one billion and 300million muslim is saying NO 4 DENMARK AND EVERY ONE THAT INSULTS OUR PROPHET.i have learned that denmark has lost more than 2oo million$ because of the buycut that the muslims have done and you think that we cannot buycut all the european countries just waight and see we have millions and we have our oil and we can produce anything that we whant to live and SUPPORT OUR NATIONAL PRODUCTS.
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01.Feb.06 - 22:29 | #
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Why weren't the Muslims screaming like this when Usama Bin Laden and his fellow "Muslim Brothers" murdered 3000+ people (from all different faiths & countries) in the of Islam and the prophet of Islam (puke be upon him)??!?
The didn't scream out in protest then, but they're in a riot over someone drawing a cartoon???
Please tell me that you are kidding me....
Someone?
Please......?
Nah: Islam is a religion of death, hatred & violence. Take a look at my URL if you have any doubts.
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01.Feb.06 - 22:39 | #
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As a Christian, some might ask if I would take offense at someone drawing something about Jesus or whatnot. To that, I say: "Jesus is a big boy, He can take care of Himself".....
....and it's true. Since Jesus REALLY is the Holy Son of God, He is more than powerful enough to address any slights or insults that are directed toward Him. The difference with Him and, say, the God is Islam is that Jesus is a realy, loving, forgiving Person. Patient, warm and kind, He waits for people to come to their senses and repent of the things that they have done...to Him or to others. That's the main reason that all who claim to love God, love about Jesus: because He truly reflects what God is like in Human form. If you really, really want to know what God is like, read what Jesus has to say. You may not like to hear what He has to say, but it will be the truth none the less.
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01.Feb.06 - 22:50 | #
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I feel very sorry for you. I wish you read/know about him, his life from the true resources before you did this terrible thing. I really hope that you see the truth before it is too late and publish this truth to share with the entire world.
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01.Feb.06 - 23:12 | #
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Allah, Mohammed? Call it what you will-Denmark is the only country with the balls to reprint these cartoons, if you dont like them dont look, nice segue onto hijabs! I do not believe in an almighty, but the way things are going in Pakistan, one could be forgiven for believing in divine intervention, it will be a cold, cold winter this Ramadamnnnnn. Dear Allah, please protect me from your followers. Let he/she who is without sin cast the first stone.
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01.Feb.06 - 23:27 | #
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gay vi live 22 centri .haj mohamud he was 1400 years ago.that time he fuched& lived & die .zendebad iran
mohsen |
01.Feb.06 - 23:31 | #
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To the host: Thank you for hosting these images.
Citizens of the world should be able to discuss anything, anytime, in any manner we see fit without fear of violent retribution.
Muslims have, apparently, a unique position in the world where they can incent violence and organize boycotts against entire nations because free, private individuals in those nations say things they find offensive. Despite this, many will step up to defend them and insist that "Islam is a good religion."
I don't care if Islam is a good religion or not, but the idea that people should stifle their ideas so as not to offend the apparently infinitely sensitive of any group is simply insane.
Muslims: Please do an experiment for me. Go ahead and post a cartoon of Jesus H. Christ fellating a donkey or something in one of your fine newspapers and see if anyone in the Western world gives two shits. You're not going to have Baptists and Anglicans organizing boycotts and threatening violence. This may be related to the amazing fact that rational adults don't get that easily whipped up over cartoons.
Muslims are like children. The civilized nations have tried the sugary approach. Now, just like a disobedient child, they really deserve a good thrashing. (Iran, please step up to the whipping post...)
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01.Feb.06 - 23:33 | #
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i blieve god,only muhamad don`t offend for this caricator..every religione same.freedam
mohsen |
01.Feb.06 - 23:33 | #
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zendebad iran va iran azad ,,mmmargh bar akhondha vahshy
mohsen |
01.Feb.06 - 23:36 | #
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Thank you for reprinting these cartoons. I had to searched for them for more than half an hour before finding them here.
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01.Feb.06 - 23:47 | #
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This is an English speaking forum, boycott all Muslim business, force them into the ghettos, like the Jewish people they so despise. When in Rome , render unto Cesear.
Mohammed Akbar |
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01.Feb.06 - 23:52 | #
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Thank you for reprinting these cartoons and standing up for free speech.
Matt Abrams |
02.Feb.06 - 0:00 | #
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this is true,islam is teror religen and mohammad had sex problem and islam is not a religen for pice but for teror
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02.Feb.06 - 0:04 | #
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mohammad is a virus in big virus on the art islam is very big problem for evry people we know that but where we can go whit this terorist religen?????????????,,,
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02.Feb.06 - 0:08 | #
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I believe the link on the Homepage below this post says it all about the radical Muslims (and even the peacefull ones who support violence).
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02.Feb.06 - 0:21 | #
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Address the issue in your own countries (bombings, fianancing of terrorism, forcing beleifs on others, ect) before you critcize another country for their fault (even though it wasnt a fault by Denmark, simply some expression of thought held by many Westerners towards extreamists Muslims.)
One kool guy (lol) |
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02.Feb.06 - 0:24 | #
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"I wish this page long live and happines. This is great page and good moral mirror to all muslims. Think first then act.
Act of satyre is the first act of freedom! It was there long time before we have any laws about freedom and rights of a person. And good satire will allways make angry stupid people (because they find themselves).
BUDHIST | 01.Feb.06 - 9:21 | # "
A quote from a peaceful Bushist that should be taken into consideration as well.
One kool guy (lol) |
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02.Feb.06 - 0:26 | #
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I didn't find the cartoons that interesting, funny, or offensive. I don't get what the fuss is all about.
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02.Feb.06 - 1:00 | #
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i do not khow what i say.u not khow any thing ,also u are very stupid,before u talk about any thing u must khow it first.our amazing and respetable PROPHET muhamed.is the the last prophet god bring him down .he change allll the evil to good and hateness to love.to pray for one god and do all things right.but we khow any human being must make mistake but there is forgivness.you must read about islam to khow becuse i canot talk about it and give to it its value.i respect all the relagions but what u done u make all people hate u not muslims only but any one not like to his relagion image be wrong.u must reqest fro forgivness but i will not ever forgive u or any one help u to do that.u bring sad to every heart of muslimfaithful to his realgion.u must khow that and understannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd. iam proud to be muslim and i will die muslim.
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02.Feb.06 - 1:36 | #
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i will do any thing to change this image about islam and muslims .thank god we now change it from tv and alot of media things.we khow all of things and we not old fastion.we learn any languahe to use it with u and all of u.but u cannot learn our languache arabic becuse it is difficult for u.i will say to something all the people from another relagions leave their relagion and get into our realgion ISLAM.BUT there is no one leave our relagion and get to any another realgion,becuse when u get to ISALM and khow all what u want ,also see u will change your mind I WILL PAY 1000000 TO U IF U CHANGE YOUR MIND.i respect TORAH,JUISH,PIPEL.BECUSE THIS BOOKS GET DOWN FROM GOD.BUT NOW THE ONLY BOOK WE MUST READ IT AND BELIVE WITH IT ONLY IS (QURAN)ISLAM.THANK U. I HOPE TO READ THAT ALSO TRY TO READ IT.
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02.Feb.06 - 1:45 | #
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It's funny to see all this hoopla over nothing. In the past, I was upset at anyone who ridiculed the Catholic faith but eventually came to realize that what other people feel, say, or think is going to upset me only if I choose to let it upset me. I now find much religious thinking to be either interesting or silly. Interesting when the concept of a god is discussed and silly when the idea of 72 virgins is discussed.
Personally, I am convinced that most religions are used to control people that do not value true freedom of the mind. People are taught what to think instead of how to think. There is no afterlife as far as I am concerned, and if you choose to believe in it, good luck!
As an atheist I experience great joy in the observation of this funny life. Why do humans take so many things so seriously. I'm 70 years old and think that the only thing we should take seriously is pain and unnecessary suffering. You might as well laugh at everything else. I now see the humor in so much of my Catholic upbringing and can also laugh at the Jesus jokes.
I feel particularly sorry for so many Muslims who take so much of the Koran stuff seriously. Whether it be the Bible, Koran, UFOs, angels, or ghosts, it's all a matter of believing it or not.
I choose to be a skeptic of it all. It is so much more fun.
P.S. My hero is Richard Dawkins
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02.Feb.06 - 2:31 | #
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Now! Now! I think I can straighten out this whole misunderstanding regarding these cartoons to the satisfaction of every one.
You see, the name Mohammed is fairly common.
One Mohammed was the Prophet of God (may he rest in peace). A man of modest and saintly disposition who spoke with angels ... a good and kindly man. The One God used him to spread His word and start The Religion of Peace (TROP) ... an improvement on the confused and misinterpreted messages of earlier prophets (such a Jesus and Moses). Out of modesty, this Mohammed (MHRIP) requested his followers not to worship him as a divine being (i.e., NO PICTURES TO BOW DOWN TO).
There must have been this other, completely different Mohammed guy (may he roast in Hell) who was a desert bandit. In addition to being a murderous camel-humping bastard, he was a thief and pedophile. He started a murderous cult of cut-throats. This cult was called “GIVE UP”, and they started a campaign of rape, pillage, murder and slavery. This Mohammed didn’t want his picture made because he was afraid it would end up on a police blotter. I think it was this second guy that the cartoons were ridiculing, not the Prophet of God (MHRIP).
There! I hope this straightens everything out.
Salami
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Islamic law does not apply in a secular state, so the publication of images of Mohammed is a non-issue.
The content of a couple of the images is controversial yes, but do you mean to tell me Islamic papers have never done anything similar in reference to the west?
While the publication may be considered unwise, it is perfectly legal and this should be respected. Don't like it? Make this heard through proper use of free speach, not death threats.
Interpretation of religion as law is something my country has been without for hundreds of years, and I believe we're all the better for it.
As for some of the "May Allah fill your bones with hot lead" posts above, well they just serve as examples of the sort of narrow-minded attempts to control that secular democracies strive to eliminate.
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02.Feb.06 - 3:31 | #
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Muhammad (Peace be upon him) is the best person ever born. He is the most educated and knowledgable person of all times. He was rated as the most honest, most humane by his worst enemies. His worst enemies depostied their most precious things and money with him. The cartoons show that how illetrate is Europe and Denmark. Muhammad was rated as the most influential person of all times by Michael Hart's Book "The 100 Most Influential Person".
My most sincere advise is first to be eduated then make comments and then perhaps you will realize why Muslims are upset by this cartoon. Each and every Muslim loves Muhammad (PBUH) more than himself, his wife, children, parents.
And please also know that we love and respect Jesus, Mary, Moses, Abraham, Noah, Jacob, Joseph (Peace be upon them all). As a matter of fact no body can become Muslim without respecting and accepting these people.
Pleae read Quran, the ultimate miracle, a book preserved in its original language for last 1400 years and it is today as fresh as on day 1 and not a single contradiction with science. This fact has led to great French Surgeon Maurice Bucaille to Islam when during his PhD thesis he discovered the fact. Please read his book titled "The Bible, The Qur'an and Science"
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02.Feb.06 - 3:35 | #
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Keep this page posted. Great job, Freedom is not just a word, sometimes unfortunatly it means standing firm facing uncivilised people using violence in every sense of the word.
To those using threats and promising violence, beware, your ideology is known to us and you will be defeated. We have already seen you running cowards and we will see you doing that again.
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02.Feb.06 - 3:56 | #
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Keep this page posted. Great job, Freedom is not just a word, sometimes unfortunatly it means standing firm facing uncivilised people using violence in every sense of the word.
To those using threats and promising violence, beware, your ideology is known to us and you will be defeated. We have already seen you running cowards and we will see you doing that again.
Simon |
02.Feb.06 - 3:56 | #
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I’m not at all surprised to see this type of discrimination towards Muslims, in fact it will only get worse. However, I dare you to put something similar about the Jews and see how far you’ll get! If you’re lucky you will be called anything from anti-Semitic to an outright Nazi! But keep it up and I guarantee you they’ll shut you up for good!! Why is that you may ask? Well, we all know the Zionists control the media! So good luck trying to pull that off!!!
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02.Feb.06 - 4:25 | #
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we must punish the danish government
under any condtion of freedom its not allowed 2 insult our prophet
we renounce violenve but we will destroy ur economy
we will not import your goods as u dont respect our prophet
do what you do
God will be with us
as Quran says "they want to blow out God's light by thier talkings and mouthers but God Refuses but to comlete hi religion Even if misbelievers refused"
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02.Feb.06 - 4:31 | #
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Hi
Muhammad was a nice guy who liked to marry 7 to 14 year old and force himself on them and make them feel respected. He was very peace loving and acording to him if you conquer a man then the winner and his army could have sex with the wife and children of the man who lost the battle or got killed. Muhammad was brave man who ultimately sow seeds of hatred among his own factions of muslims - Shites and Sunnis. More muslims have died due to other muslims killing them. However theoritically Islam is peace-loving religion which deifies the fact of extremely high number of rapes, slavery and crime rate in Isalmic nations. Show me one Islamic nation whih is very progressive and you will find none. All Saudi countries will have demise of wealth once oil reserves perish in mid-east. IF YOU REALLY WANT TO KNOW WHY ISLAM IS trouble FOR THEIR OWN PEOPLE THEN PLEASE READ THE BOOK "TROUBLE WITH ISLAM" BY IRSHAD MANJI WHO HERSELF IS MUSLIM GIRL from Pakistan and settled in Canada. thanks EveryOne.
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Seriously this is what I don't understand about you sick ignorant people who have such a HUGE problem with Muslims. YOU ARE ALL FUCKED UP IN THE HEAD! You need to stop being so stuck up and racist, and take your heads out of your asses! You people go on about how the world is full of bad people, and you are those bad people. You, the dumbass making these horrible cartoons, first of all you have NO talent, i could make better cartoons with my foot, and two, you're an adult yourself, so how about setting a good fucking example you sick fuck! People like you make me want to puke, so seriously, talk all the shit you want, but it's Muslims who populate most of this whole world, and in the end, we'll fuck you up, and God will want nothing to do with you, so you'll go rot in hell
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First off, Husnia, its not the Muslims themselves that I and many others have a problem with, but their violent reactions to everything that even hints at anything against your 'prophet'. I know of many peace-loving Muslims that I am completly fine with. However, there are some Muslims (such as yourself I presume) that cause us to suspect and hate all of your race because we are afraid of what you will do because of your narrow-minded violent, extreamist ways. You cannot blame ANYONE for acting like that because you would act the same way if Jews, Christians, and/or Hindus were attacking you such a sense. Second, I know of no respectable 'Godly' person, Christian, Jew, Hindu, or Muslim who uses the 'f' word.
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I just want to say for every mistake there is always a consequence. Well some poeple make fun of us saying why are you boycotting Denamrkian products what is the use of that. Well for me it's the least that I can do after watching those pics and it's your loss and us you are going to lose ecnonomically you need Muslism do you know that the Gulf have the higest amount of Petrol we could stop exporting petrol to denamrk all do to your misTAKE. I RECOMMEND YOU TO MOVE THE PIC AND APOPLOGIZE FOR US(MUSLISMS). It's wrong making fun of others people's pophet or beleives even if you say bevause we are terrist or whatever that does not give you the right to make fun of our prohet it's a serious matter and we are offened then don't blame us for our actions and say OH THEY ARE TERRIST YOU DRIVE US INTO BEING TERRIST. We are telling you in a civilized way isn't what you are doing is wrong it's not right WE DESERVE AN APOPOLGY.
PS: I recommond you to reply to my comments and tell me what's right and what's wrong.
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I commend 'A Muslim' for boycotting Denmark, that's a very peaceful way of protesting. However, I believe that Denmark or its newspaper owe an apology to anyone because was a lawful thing to do and brought up some hard, painful truths of how most Westerners feel about all Muslims because of a violent few of them. If you stop terrorizing us or stop others of your religion to stop terrorizing our people, then mockery won't be much of a problem. In any case, God will avenge everyone who does anything against Him in one way or another, and anything humans can do to one another to try to do His avenging is useless because God's vengence is the only truely perfect justice. Again I commend you for only boycotting Danish products and not threatening to kill them for some stupid cartoons.
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02.Feb.06 - 5:27 | #
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I apologize for the bad English and I meant that the Danish and its newspapers DONT owe an apology to anyone.
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Recently a Danish newspaper published several illustrations of Mohammad, the prophet of Allah. As usual the muslim masses reacted with violence while their religious leaders made accusations and issued threats. It is an offense to Allah to show a picture of his prophet, but obviously not the terrified face of Jill Carroll who is being held and threatened with death in His name. The likeness of a long dead prophet is more important to muslims then the video of a [hopefully still] living young women. A brave journalist both for being in Iraq and her questioning of US policies in that country. I personally support Bush and the ongoing efforts in Iraq but there is no denying bravery where you find it. Nor is there any denying the cowardice of islamic insurgents and their supporters who kidnap, terrorize, and kill civilians; use IED's to fight their war; and hide amongst the civilians. One persons terrorist is not another's freedom fighter. How many beheadings did George Washington convene? Muslims and the world should realize that the true face of Mohammad, Islam, and Allah are not in a Danish or Norwegian publication, but Jill Carroll's tear-stained face on Al-Jazeera. The terror in her eyes shows us all we need to know about the world view of the mullahs and imams of the world.
Richard O’Neil, TSGT, MANG (ret.)
Weymouth, MA 02189
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Its really a rediculous to try to hit the religion of any kind, cuz as a muslim i always try not to hit anybody on his religion. but if i will take u, i think u don't have any religion or even u r not among the human beings may be an animal of bad taste and kind who always try to eat the muslims but u have been forgotten the fate of animals. Inshallah one day u will be catch by a muslim hunter and we will see u while living with monkeys in a cage in the Zoo. just tell me ur religion wht ever u are but i m sure u don't have any valuable person to whom u can follow in ur religion thts y u r trying to hit muslims by sketching these kind of abnormal cartoons. Actually these are not the cartoons of Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W) but infact this is the mirror of ur personality.
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02.Feb.06 - 6:30 | #
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If Muslims truly love peace, why so many violent reactions? If someone offends you, do you have to curse at them & behave like children or bullies? These reactions are so ridiculous.
What are you Muslim fanaticists so proud of, anyway? You don't have a single secular state, no technological, medical or scientific breakthroughs. Your orthodoxy oppresses women, homosexuals, people of other faiths, anyone who isn't "just like me."
And to your everlasting humiliation, you've failed to take back the Holy Land from the Israelis. Why? Simple. The Jews are tolerant, well-educated, better armed and back up their words with deeds. Last but not least, they are part of the modern world and try to contribute positively to it. Instead of attacking the US, Israel and this sharp-witted Danish cartoonist, why don't you reform your own asinine, medieval religious beliefs and governments. Amen.
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I am in UAE now. Yesterday evening I went to the Carrefour shopping mall in Dubai. There was no Danish products in the shelves.
The illitrate, undeveloped, uncivilized, low IQ, lazy, and stupid majority of the people in this place cannot even walk for 10 meters, I am wondering how they can survive if they are not supported by the western products any more. Probably they have to return to the desert and drink Camel milk and eat Dates as their foods )
Today I heard in an official Iranian radio that the horrible governments of the muslim world are thinking of coming together and threating the western world by using such sanctions on their products to defeat them in ideological cases.
They were so happy (more similar to celebrating) that the Denmark government had appologized for the caricatures after two months (these are the exact sentences they were saying)
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02.Feb.06 - 6:53 | #
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I have another question for Middle Eastern Muslims...why is that all the money you're making tends to go towards only the top few in a government or company while the majority of the population is left to herd sheep for a living? Why isn't all that oil money helping the regular people in your countries?
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02.Feb.06 - 6:53 | #
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STOP APOLOGIZING TO THESE MUSLIM MURDERERS AND JUST BLOW THEM TO KINGDOM OF MUHAMMED...WE DO NOT NEED TO JUSTIFY A THING TO THESE KILLERS. THEY LIVE IN OUR COUNTRY AND NOT WE IN THEIRS! MANY, MANY EXAMPLES OF THEIR MURDEROUS RELIGION IN THE WORLD, SO THE BEST WAY TO DEAL WITH THEM IS=AS THEY WOULD LIKE TO DEAL WITH US - drop a bomb on the dungheap of muslims MECCA-CACA! And I do not apologize for my feelings as my anchestors also did not when they simply killed them by the thousands to get rid of them and send them to hell. There are no good muslims and never will be or they will not stay muslims, for the rest of them - MAKE THEM INTO FERTILIZER AND MAKE THE WORLD GREEN... Said all this with a smile on my lips muslim a-HOLES!
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i think you European needs some knowledge because u say it is freedom of speech but u don't even know wat "freedom" means.
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i just want to say to the muslims who are upset about these cartoons,,,,take a chill pill and relax,,,ur religion is baseless anyways,,,,ur mohammad was nothing but a gang leader who played with ppl's minds at his time and told them he was a prophet from god,,,lol,,i laugh at that,,really,,,a prophet from god? ok let me explain something,,,a prophet from god, doesn't marry over 40 women,,and not just that, but one of them was only 9 years old,,and another was twice his age,,,,and the funny thing about this, is, one day i was watching an islamic show backhome in the middle east, and a caller asked the imam in the show "why did mohamad marry these many women?" the imam's response was "he felt sorry for them because there were not enough men at that time"...lol,,,hehehehe,,,my god, if u muslim ppl have that kind of brain that believes things like this,,,u might as well just go and shoot urself,,,because you are really dumb to believe that,,,,
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02.Feb.06 - 7:22 | #
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NATHLIA ******
I JUST READ UR COMMENT AT THE TOP,,,AND BY THE WAY,,UR NOT CHRISTIAN,,UR A MUSLIM,,,GO FUCK URSELF AND UR ISLAM,,OK,,,,A CHRISTIAN WOULDN'T SAY MOHAMAD IS A GOOD PROPHET,,,HE/SHE WOULDN'T EVEN SAY HE IS A PROPHET
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02.Feb.06 - 7:28 | #
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All pro's and con's have a certain amount of reality.
Turkey is the only islamic country, which seperated politics from religion. For all the answers of these discussions please refer to todays Turkeys founder: Mustafa Kemal Ataturk.
AOKONUK
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02.Feb.06 - 7:29 | #
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lets ask ourselves few questions.
It is perfect timing to attacked Islam under the guise of freedom of press, isn't it?
does at september 2005 the date then freedom of speech started ???
just out of curiosity did that cartoons makes world better. if you admit that Danes are very civilized and polite people, why so hatred and offended action come from your country?
does Danes really so naive that they did not expect so much sensetivity from Muslim community? you did not reallize there were no images of Prophet Mohammed for ages. and suddenly one Danes said "Eureca" because he found how to make all Danes laughing, lately he will apologized but it is too late. why did he apologize? because it became a matter of MONEY. MONEY :0 !!! he immediatlly forgot about freedom of speach. guys let agree that we have different values. i am not gonna change you and you dont try to apply me that i should not respect my prophet.
those cartoons offend and insult me and my Muslim friends here in U.S. and i have to inform you not only Arab population was offended but all 1.4 billion population of World, eventually as every Muslim who respect Prophet Mohammet (s.a.s) i will not use products of country which supports a media that offend other people because of their religion or ethnic origin. actually there is none of Arla products here in Texas! but it is a matter of priciple.
There are two core values: one is that you cannot offend other people because of, for instance, their religion or ethnic origin. The other is free speech. I believe that both businesses and people have a responsibility for ensuring a balance between these two values. I enjoy both here in U.S. The one should not exclude the other.
There is only one planet for all of us, so we have to learn live with tolerance and respect to each other. Dear Danes, some medya purposly shows only 1 percent of Muslim who with guns and bombs. other 99 percent are normal people who just want grow up their children for better life, just like you.
after all there is a lot of thing to make fun.
p.s. : by the way, i was a big fan of Denmark soccer team in Euro 92 and 96. they were really good players.
why you did this, guys?
:-(
i truly hope no one will hurt physically.
with my best wishes.
Texas, USA
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02.Feb.06 - 7:30 | #
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I am really sad to see all these pictures. i couldnt even look all of them. what a pity. u people think that u respect all the religons. well this act surely shows that u lie. how can u possibly think of doing so. this is discrimination as is being done by all around the world. u people are no different the US, India, Russia, France and so on. i can only have pity on u bcoz on the Judgement day u will be sent to hell if u die doing all this.
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02.Feb.06 - 7:37 | #
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HUSNIA***
NOBODY IS DUMB BUT U,,,IF UR THAT SMART,,,GO READ UR QURAN AND WHEN U DO,,DO ME A FAVOUR AND BE AN OPEN MINDED,,,READ ABOUT THE NIKAH (SEX),,THE REVENGE AND KILLING AND SWORDS,,,,,I FEEL SORRY FOR U AND ALL UR MUSLIMS,,,BIATCH,,
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02.Feb.06 - 7:40 | #
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HUSNIA***
NOBODY IS DUMB BUT U,,,IF UR THAT SMART,,,GO READ UR QURAN AND WHEN U DO,,DO ME A FAVOUR AND BE AN OPEN MINDED,,,READ ABOUT THE NIKAH (SEX),,THE REVENGE AND KILLING AND SWORDS,,,,,I FEEL SORRY FOR U AND ALL UR MUSLIMS,,,BIATCH,,
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02.Feb.06 - 7:40 | #
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To the poster Murat of Texas:
You state: "There are two core values: one is that you cannot offend other people because of, for instance, their religion or ethnic origin. The other is free speech. I believe that both businesses and people have a responsibility for ensuring a balance between these two values. I enjoy both here in U.S."
OK, that's cute, but here's an update for you: in the U.S., free speech is a constitutionally protected right. The idea that "you cannot offend other people" for any reason whatsoever is one not embodied in U.S. law, and is certainly not part of the common culture. There is no federal law that guarantees that hypersensitive asshats can get through the day without being offended. For example, countless citizens of Polish extraction don't appreciate a good Polish joke. Yet, Polack jokes are told all day throughout the U.S...and I have yet to hear of one Polish joke-related arrest or conviction. In fact, people regularly publish and market entire books on the topic of Polish jokery and they are NEVER firebombed by angry gentlemen of Polish descent. So, if you enjoy this "value" of stifling speech in a mysterious balance with actual free speech, it's strictly a construct in your own head that has no attachment with reality.
Perhaps your personal values, where every individual and group is hypersensitive about POORLY DRAWN UNFUNNY GODDAMN CARTOONS, are totally incompatible with living in a Western democracy and you should go live in a Muslim country that better suits your delicate and idiotic sensibilities.
Personally, I am offended by Smurfs, because I believe blue is the color of Satan and Papa Smurf is the devil himself. I am now going to boycott any country that has ever shown a Smurf TV show or sold a Smurf comic. I may even be forced to bomb any nation that has provided aid or comfort to Smurfdom.
This makes exactly as much sense as the uproar in the Muslim community, and it should be treated about as seriously. Your Allah bullshit voodoo will never determine the extent of discourse in the Western world, so please shut the hell up.
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02.Feb.06 - 8:04 | #
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Moda fucka stay away.. do you want another world trade center to go down???
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02.Feb.06 - 8:29 | #
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Just got done seeing the cartoons and reading alot of the messeges that have been left. I have never laughed so hard in my life!!! I got a secret to tell you all.....muslims also hide snicker bars in their beards during Ramadan. also, whether or not the slaying of a human being is murder or not, in the eyes of the Muslims, depends on one question: Is the killer Muslim? Is the victim nonmuslim?
If the killer is Muslim, and the victim is a nonmuslim, it isnt murder..
Anything else is :/ Islam is a perfect war machine. Religious dedication to murder can never be matched.
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02.Feb.06 - 8:31 | #
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The hate cycle in ISLAM..First they hate the SATAN/EVIL Hindus,Buddists,Chinese...then they hate the Christians and jews..AND when they still have more hate to SPREAD AROUND, they hate the Shias....and THEN AHMEDIYA muslims, Sufis etc....and when they STILL HAVE MORE HATE LEFT...the arabs hate Persians....PAKISTANI Punjabi muslims hate Bengali and Indian muslims.....and FINALLY they still have more hate left,they hate anybody who is different and asks questions about islam.
Muslims are in DELUSIONAL WORLD and in denial.....SCARED THAT THE TRIBAL BS AND MYTHS called as ISLAM will crumble IF THEY QUESTION IT
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02.Feb.06 - 8:40 | #
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CHRISTANS. U ARE NOT EVEN A CHRISTAIN.. U DON KNOW WHAT CHIRSTIANITY IS .. U WHORES.. FOKK OFF
ChRisTIAN.FoKA |
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02.Feb.06 - 8:44 | #
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I'm very glad that other European newspapers published the cartoons in solidarity with the Danish paper.
As Orwell put it: "If liberty means anything at all, it is the right to tell people what they don't want to hear."
I'm publish some of the cartoons on my own blog, as the only way to deal with bullying and threats is by defying them.
To all you religious buffoons who have to resort to threats and violence in the hope of making people pretend to "respect" your imaginary friend, I say this: you are demonstrating your lack of faith. If your god is so powerful, he would hardly need insecure, psychotic pipsqueaks like you to do his work, now would he?
DBM |
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02.Feb.06 - 8:47 | #
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The Danish authorities are hiding behind their way of interpreting the "freedom of speech" thing although they have said they have made a BIG mistake. People are just being 2 faced over here, mostly in Europe. That's insane, if one has to show respect to facts, you can not and SHOULD NOT differentiate and choose those facts, but treat them all the same...etc..etc...a little flash could blow all the ammunition away, then you call it education, then you call it propaganda, then you call it culture...don't put BLAME on people, put yourself in their SHOES...
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02.Feb.06 - 9:12 | #
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I'm providing my own contribution.
I'm sure many find this offensive, I'll even warn you that my lack of artistic skills alone will probably offend you, my choice of language will probably offend you and the explicit (if you can call stick figures explicit) picture will probably offend you.
But, I am doing it in protest to the people that wish to intimidate us from exercising our right to free speech. I suggest anyone else who is offended by the threats of violence and such to stop letting yourself be intimidated and protest as you see fit.
So, here you go: http://www.rydasrecords.com/imag...mages/
camel.jpg
Philip Shirley |
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02.Feb.06 - 9:19 | #
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I think you have made a mistake and no apology should be accepted for your ignorance..May Allah's wrath be upon you.May you suffer on this earth and the yearafter.I hope and pray that you will be made an example of.E.mail me from hell..dog
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02.Feb.06 - 9:33 | #
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In the West, the PTV (Plato Truth Virus) is alive and well, just observe George Bush and the christian right.
Moslems are caught up in the MTV (Mohammed Truth Virus)
Both are deadly
IObverve
(PTV - look it up on Google - and MTV (I coin the phrase) are as insidious as any virus in this world)
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02.Feb.06 - 9:39 | #
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In the US, we talk about the right to free speech, and how this right includes the ability to make fun of other religions. This may be true now, but in the past especially up to the mid 1900s, I would say it isn't true.
"LENNY BRUCE. Labeled "America's #1 Vomic" by columnist Walter Winchell, Lenny Bruce was the hottest American comedian of the early sixties. His free form fantasies and rambling stories assaulted people accustomed to aw-shucks style humor. He regarded restrictions on free speech as ludicrous and observed that: "A knowledge of syphilis is not an instruction to contract it." He was tried for obscenity in Philadelphia, Beverly Hills, and Chicago during the early sixties, and deported from the United Kingdom in 1964. His Chicago obscenity trial in 1963 was typical for its focus on his mockery of religion. Increasingly embittered and consumed by his legal problems, he died of a drug overdose in 1966."
http://www.thefileroom.org/
publi...inshistory.html
So, what people in Europe and the US are saying about freedom of speech don't realize that we have had the concept of freedom of speech, but this hasn't kept people from being prosecuted when they say something inciteful, or blasphemous, up until rather recently, the late 1900s.
Maybe a lot of Muslims hold to the belief that freedom of speech is not limitless. And I wouldn't expect any Muslim, especially shariah, nations to ever want to become like the US in its "lax" idea on what constitutes free speech. Does free speech include things I say that are immoral? And if so, how come we get arrested, or can be found guilty in civil trial, for most other things that are immoral?
By the way, treating other people like garbage is every New Yorker's God-given right, and they exercise it freely every day. One of the reasons I don't like NYC, hehe.
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02.Feb.06 - 9:41 | #
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Oh, and I especially like cartoon 7, the one with a man in a turban holding a knife, and has two women in burkhas behind him.
It's playing on the idea of the vengeful Muslim characterized in Shariah nations, the same nations that force women into burkhas, whether it be culturally or legally.
So, I'd say that this cartoon isn't really attributed to all Muslims, just those that believe in Shariah, which forces them into vengeful retribution against women who refuse the burkha and against cartoonists who offend their culture.
It's also playing on the idea that you can't show Mohammed's face, since that would be idolatry, and you can't show a woman's body, since that would promote lust. By the way, it would only be fair if both men and women covered up, I would have no objection to that, but Shariah nations maintain women's inferiority in their culture. Just as they promote war against those who would seek to give women rights.
If a man is lustful, it's the man's fault. It's not the woman's fault for being present. Cover up the lustful man's face.
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02.Feb.06 - 9:57 | #
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Oh, all the muslims threatening this guy, man its PATHETIC. Dont you guys have ANY sense of humour or a LITTLE itty bit of self distance? Like a text under a drawing said, the painter is a non believing danish guy, why DO YOU CARE? Idiots.
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02.Feb.06 - 10:02 | #
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I just want to say that you are absulotely mantaly ill, because you really don;t know that what are you doing. Hazrat Muhammad (PBUH) is still the greatest in the universe for past present & future. But remember that inshallah you will get panisment in this life.
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02.Feb.06 - 10:33 | #
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BTW, it's not always the religion which makes people so stupid, it is also a matter of culture. For instance, I think the Arabic culture is rather full of violence. Majority of these people really have problem with smiling and having a simple relation with others.
If you find violence in Iranian government, it's because that these supid governers and their followers accepted that they are nothing but Arabs; you can ask any Iranian about this and they will tell you that how these people try to use Arabic words and even fashion in their normal life, something that real Persians hate it.
So, from the sociologic point of view, the savageness of Arabic culture has been distributed in other civilizations within several hundred years along with the spreading the religion.
For example, please do not forget that Bulkha is not a religious cover but a common Arabic fashion and belongs to before pre-islam in Saudi Arabia.
You can see that muslim women in Philipines or Malaysia wear a differnt fashion thatn Arabs even though they are muslim.
Alireza |
02.Feb.06 - 11:06 | #
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I am a muslim, alahamdulillah.
I wish & invite you to became a muslim.
Then you may pardon to almighty to forgive ur mistakes. This is a countermeasure to ur mistake.
otherwise people may .............. u.
But for sure almighty will punish you very badly
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02.Feb.06 - 11:21 | #
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I applaud the paper that publishes these harmless cartoons in a free world. The intolerance that Moslems have for our culture and freedom of expression is the crux of the problem we live with today and into the forseable future. If we do not publish, we bow to a base and immoral power.
I am ashamed that Britain has not published yet. Liberalism has gone
too far in this country, and we must recognise that tolerance is a two way street.
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02.Feb.06 - 12:26 | #
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dear my heartiest friend
According to Islam , its not a surprise to see all this as in glorious quran it has been repeatedly ascribed that . there ll be people who ll try to abolish this true religion , But Allah sbt ll not agree to their notions and they ll be diminished in themselves !
Well if u r trying to get popular by doing this nuisance stuff in yr website , u better be careful dude , yr might jeopardize yr life !
Inshallah ! U might be blessed by Allah !
Wajed
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02.Feb.06 - 12:41 | #
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you have to respect our religion as we respect other religions because allah and his great messenger orderd us to do so.
I advice u to read about islam to know how great that religion is and then u will regret making fun of the greatest man in earth or be as u r and wait till the judgement come and u will find ur self suffering in hell.
by the way muslim people decided not to have contact with danish and we will not buy danish products
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02.Feb.06 - 12:49 | #
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In The Name Of Allah
we must punish the danish government.. plz we never listen yur misbehavior towards the prophet.
There is Allah who is most Powerfull...
Danish govt. u will see early .... ur panishment...
Allah hu Akbar
Muhammad Azhar / India |
02.Feb.06 - 12:54 | #
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I would just like to tell the people who created these cartoons that they are too ignorant to be taken seriously... If u had any idea about the true identity of prophet Muhammad, u wouldn't have dared to say one of ur filthy words about him..
He is the founder of all the ethics u now brag about and he called for all the rules of brotherhood and equality of all mankind that the UN now has put into action!!
This is a man who ordered his soldiers before each war not to cut trees, kill women,infants,or elderly people... He set all the bases of a healthy happy life and if u look into all ur problems nowadays u will find that their solutions r in following the traditions of islam....... If u can't respect the founder of all the good values u live in, then u don't even deserve to be heard!!!!!!!! Buzz off u ignorant dogs
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02.Feb.06 - 13:08 | #
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I'm bying extra much danish stuff this week.
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02.Feb.06 - 13:18 | #
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So if you don't wish to speak to a religious fanatic who'd gladly kill you for your beliefs you're a stupid person? And you want to beat someone up because what is written on an internet page? You might just win the prize of the most stupid poster today...
Religion was constructed to control and/or oppress people. Most of them (including Christianity if you read the Bible carefully) treats women as second class people or even objects. It's a thing of the past...don't throw your lives away obeying ancient rules because of some nonexistant dude in the sky. Just be excellent to each other...
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02.Feb.06 - 13:30 | #
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One more thing...if Allah is really omnipotent and if he'd really care about some cartoons wouldn't he do something about it? Or wouldn't the responsible be punished in someway in the afterlife? So stop making a big deal out of this. It's not only stupid, it's illogical.
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02.Feb.06 - 13:35 | #
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Religions is per definition stupid.
And the followers surely enforces that truth.
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02.Feb.06 - 13:42 | #
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By the way, I heard Muhammed was a pedophile.
Atleast he did marry and have sex with a 9 year old. That's a pedophile in many countries.
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02.Feb.06 - 13:44 | #
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IF MUSLIMS ARE THREATENED BY A FEW DRAWINGS, THEN THEIR FAITH CANNOT BE TOO STRONG!!
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02.Feb.06 - 13:45 | #
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To those who call what happened "Freedom of Speech," you are truely BLIND. Why don't you open your eyes to what happens from Human Rights violations in Palestine and Iraq, and all other Muslim countries under conflict and try to express true freedom of speach describing western hatred, fake,and violent policies towards others. You are truely BLIND. I pray for Allah that you see the truth. If you still have the least part of human that's called brain, go read a rightous book about Islam and its principles, and I pray for Allah that it opens your EYES and HEART because believe me you will not feel you are alive and breathing until you embrace Islam and enjoy the certainity we enjoy. Thank God I am a Muslim 
Asmaa |
02.Feb.06 - 14:03 | #
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I just want to know if guys get 72 virgins for blowing themselves up, do girls get 72 studs for doing the same thing? My Blog with some of the cartoons
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02.Feb.06 - 14:06 | #
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Religious people need to grow up and understand that what may be holy to them is ripe for satire by anyone else. Nothing should be above criticism or debate, and satire is a vital part of that debate.
The very fact that people get so militant over cartoons indicates how little some people in the Middle East understand the concepts of Freedom of Speech and Freedom on the press.
Joe |
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02.Feb.06 - 14:07 | #
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to the smart-ass guy.. If religions r old shit, then the world would be chaos, and pigs like u want it that way!!! And for the writers, they will be punished in the afterlife, u're just too naive to know that it's not about livin for 60 or 70 years then fuckin decomposing.. There is an afterlife or else what differentiates between who spent their life doin good stuff anf assholes like u who think they're really smart
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02.Feb.06 - 14:08 | #
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hey big boy small mind. U think our prophet is a pedophile, try n find out at what aga girls reach puberty in hot areas, at almost 8... So the girl he married had reached puberty and was sexually able to get married, and at that time their minds weren't like u, they became mature in thinking very early. Besides, if u look well, marrying at that age was very common at that time, so read history first idiot...
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02.Feb.06 - 14:13 | #
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Mohamed Elahwal is a good example of how brainwashed religious fanatics are. Good luck on any afterlife. I guarantee that there is none. The best religion in my mind is atheism. Atheist Blog
Devout Atheist |
02.Feb.06 - 14:26 | #
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all of u who posted these cartoons pics of Prophet Muhammad(P.B.U.H)will be pusnisher by Allah and will burn in the fire of hell
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02.Feb.06 - 14:40 | #
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Hallo - are their ANY sensibel warm-hearted muslims out there? Will they please speak up or I will surely lose any hope for the muslim world... If remarks at this forum represents the standars level of discussion among muslims then I cant see any hope for a civilized future with you - you should be ashamed for all your direct and indirect threats! Some religion you guys and gals pride yourself of! Moral high ground my a..!
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02.Feb.06 - 14:54 | #
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the editor of this cartoon is really a son of bitch and where he lives i think hje lives in a son of dick.pussy home lollz he dont realize why he wants to comments on such a PERSON who is so noble .i believe with in next days GOD will punish him .its against the religion why u want to say something worst abt others religion y
AND ALL THE PEOPLE OF DENMARK IF THE SAY ITS GOOD THEN THEY R BIG SON OF BITCH IF NOT THEN THEY R ON SLIGHTLY RIGHT BUT not full right way
ISLAM IS THE BEST RELIGION IN THE WORLD
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02.Feb.06 - 15:04 | #
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MAY GOD PUNISH YOU..ON THIS STUPIT I SAY CHEAP MOVEMENT
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02.Feb.06 - 15:06 | #
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now what you do all yourzz things r banned by arab co-operative societies...haaa
yearly 580million loss to denmark wow ...
sincere |
02.Feb.06 - 15:08 | #
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That camel thing was not so smart. Caution is needed here.
I think the level of spelling in most of the anti-cartoon messages pretty much sums up what kind of people we are dealing with.
Back to school. For me and some others maybe...
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02.Feb.06 - 15:10 | #
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Good grief, what a lot of hassle over these? OK depictions of the prophet are taboo to muslims, but for muslim people to feel quite ok about killing and threatening the "non believers" over these is plain crazy.
All human kind does not believe in allah. Get used to it and learn to live in the modern world.
Saying that though, everyone else needs to learn to respect islam. You wouldn't go and piss on your neighbours dining table, why draw cartoons like this?
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02.Feb.06 - 15:13 | #
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HAAHAHHA stupit editor i think you dont believe that why u publish such a cheap thing if you have any problem and want to publish a cartoon make a cartoonsof your mother,father ,daughter,prime minister,and denmarks people cartoons they all will be praised but dont do this hell ok
islam is the religion of peace
THERE IS NO GOD EXCEPT ALLAH. AND PROPHET MUHAMMAD(PBUH)IS THE MESSENGER OF ALLAH
(I m not saying any worst about your religion because PROPHET(PBUH)prohibbited us to not to say any thing against any other religion..and not say even other people non-muslim)
MAY ALLAH gives you all true light but i m saying you that u will see INSHALLAH the editor of these cartoons will be punsihed by ALLAH ALMIGHTY INSHALLAH
giyeh islam |
02.Feb.06 - 15:18 | #
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I've read some of the most funniest comments here. If i weren't an Arab or a Muslim, and knowing what i know about the religion and it's history, i wouldn't have blamed anyone if they'd just nuke the entire middle east. The image the people portray to the world, well atleast most of what is put up, it's just pathetic. Arrogant, ignorant, and worse of all, proud!
Most of us do not even have the rights in our countries the dogs enjoy in France. I just want to say this, one day we will be bombed, and until then, we will not change. It's the fucking people who are in charge that twists everything.
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02.Feb.06 - 15:22 | #
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That's it? Those cartoons are what muslims are all upset about? Oh well I guess whatever an Imam can use to incite violence he will use. Have a great time with that. Can someone please tell me why some one's opinion halfway across the world can mean so much? To all muslims out there I do not give a shit what you do in your own country but when you want to fuck with my country you need to know that it is time to put your head between your legs and kiss your ass goodbye. I would truly like to see things from your point of view but I can't get my head that far up my ass.
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02.Feb.06 - 15:23 | #
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If Allah is real, I double dare him to punish me right now for posting the cartoons. It's all so funny. Mother Goose makes more sense than this religious sillyness.
Devout Atheist |
02.Feb.06 - 15:28 | #
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It seems as if you don't believe in GOD! if it is not the case you should get afraid of being crushed by GOD in the other world.
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02.Feb.06 - 15:30 | #
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Yes for sure and you should be afraid that one of the other 5000 religions were the truth and not yours fuckhead!
ignorant atheist |
02.Feb.06 - 15:38 | #
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The only supreme being I believe in is Mother Nature. God is a hoax! I dare him to stop me from posting.
Devout Atheist |
02.Feb.06 - 15:39 | #
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Its extreme ARROGANCE to think one knows a higher thruth! Islam is NOT the thruts more than any other higher philosophy! BE SKEPTIC WHEN SOMEONE CLAIMS THE ETERNAL THRUTH! Dont listen to them - the only thruths is that their is no such thing as ONE 'true' religion... im very sorry my muslim friends! AND I AM GLAD TO BE SPIRITUALLY FREE!
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02.Feb.06 - 15:45 | #
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Its extreme ARROGANCE to think one knows a higher thruth! Islam is NOT the thruts more than any other higher philosophy! BE SKEPTIC WHEN SOMEONE CLAIMS THE ETERNAL THRUTH! Dont listen to them - the only thruths is that their is no such thing as ONE 'true' religion... im very sorry my muslim friends! AND I AM GLAD TO BE SPIRITUALLY FREE!
ignorant atheist |
02.Feb.06 - 15:45 | #
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hellow i ma muslim , dont visit any Westerns or as DENMARK, ITALLY any other Journalist any arabic country we will against them and will kill
we hate all westerns thers good pople in wstern , but from one persons we are going to hate all, western not able to defeat our muslim we Mujaahidheen , we are able to sefcrifice our body to our muslims and islamic
plse all westerns read more and more about the Propht mohamed , Aaameen
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I absolutely support the cartoons and a free speech. Don't beleive that ANYTHING offensive of Islam was portrait there. These people (religious fanatics) have NO sense of humor as well as ABSOLUTE intolerance to any other religions except of theirs. It's too bad.
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Holy crap, the responses are funnier than any cartoon ever could be.
So let me get this straight ... it is blasphemous to create an image of Mohammed/God/Allah, but it's okay to kill fellow human beings as long as you do it in his name? Somehow I dont think that's what Mohammed had in mind.
Am I the only one that finds the irony in the fact that ARMED GUNMEN in Gaza are demanding an apology for a few drawings, but dont blink an eye when entire city blocks get blown up?
Somewhere, somehow, someone's priorities got a little scrambled.
I think a very long time ago, Mohammed, Jesus, Buddah and Abraham took a look at the mess this world has made of itself and said "screw this, we're outta here".
I agree with the line of thought that says if muslims are this threatened by a few strokes of a pencil, they must not be very secure in thier beliefs.
Screw this, I'm outta here too.
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02.Feb.06 - 16:02 | #
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Remember that many of our muslim brothers and sisters have NEVER had the benefit of an secular education. We in the west suffered hundreds of years of religious bigotry, that through the renaissance, reformation and enlightenment was slowly overcome. Thousands of western free thinkers have died and suffered at the hands of the church in the long struggle for freedom of speech and genuine democracry. The majority of our muslim brothers and sisters are educated solely by their religious leaders, never even being exposed to alternative beliefs and opinions. They are left utterly blind to the possibilities offered by alternative ways of living.
I am neither muslim nor christian but I am spiritual. I am the grateful recipient of spiritual and intellectual freedom bought for me by the suffering and fighting of liberal thinkers throughout the centuries of european cultural evolution.
Now we stand at on the brink of an inevitable conflict. Islamic rules do not fit with invaluable freedoms won in the west. Religious control of our thinking and writing was rejected long ago here in the west - there is no reason why we should suddenly accept it again from any religion. Must our hard won liberties be sacrificed on the altar of islamic bigotry? Or is it time Islam had a reformation of its own? Messages of peace backed up by threats of hell or physical violence are no messages of peace at all - IT IS A CONTRADICTION. Peace can only be wished by the peaceful - there can be no exceptions to that rule. It does not matter how much you are offended by another you still have no right to violence, if indeed you truly wish peace and mercy.
TOLERANCE - we must all tolerate one another no matter how much our ideas insult each other. Who does it really hurt to charicature Jesus or Mohamed? The only people who are really hurt are the censors who would use violence to enforce their religious views - and the people they would hurt.
WHo are the real martyrs? Theo Van Gogh - he is a martyr and a hero, to be loved by all advocates of peace, brotherhood and liberty across the world. Who is the sick man? His murderer - he is to be pitied and despised as nothing more than an insane deluded fool.
learn to tolerate your brothers and sisters - everywhere and of every faith including secular.
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02.Feb.06 - 16:04 | #
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Shame on you and the way u use ur talent if we can call it so, I'm also an artist and a very well known in my field and i believe I can do much more better than you do, because I can use my tools for a better purpose, drawing what may be related to peace and love for all human kinds, no matter what religion they follow, never hold a pen to make fun of Muhammed or jesus or any other prophet, I bet that you know nothing about islam nor Muhammed (PBUH) nor muslims and what prevents us from doing same shit like urs is our belief in all the prophets sent by God and our belief in peace and that every one is free to choose the way he wants to live and the religion he wants to follow and I bet if u found one muslim doing same silly stuff like u do, any how I'm just a muslim who reminds u of the judgment day and u'll remember all these words this day, I'm sure that u r an unbeliever cause no body ever, who follows any religion that believes in God would do any of what u feel proud of and think that ppl will HAHAHA when they see it.
Lets c who will laugh at the end
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Voice of reason I could kiss you! But your dark vision of war to come I cannot see. Many muslims in the West have quickly learned what democracy and freedom means (only 10% of danish muslims can be described as dogmatics - 90% are so-called 'cultur-muslims' - their eyes are open) - and we can also learn from their ways - many of the customs (familytraditions for instance) are good - and we lost them on our way to freedom. People DO learn...
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02.Feb.06 - 16:15 | #
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Life's hard as it is…. I always try to be open-minded and tolerant but the older I get and the more I see I just hate all the intolerant idiots in the world even more and I do hate myself for it, and want you to vanish of this earth and leave me in peace.
Please am asking u politely
Your DAD |
02.Feb.06 - 16:26 | #
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NO ONE has the right to force their religion down my throat. And this is exactly what everyone is doing. Be it Christian or Muslim, people try to force their religion upon us because they feel their religion and ONLY their religion is right. If ONLY their religion is right, are you saying there are several billion other people who are living their lives incorrectly? Live your life the way you want to, and I'll live my life the way I want to. I won't try to force my beliefs on you, so don't do it to me.
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02.Feb.06 - 16:57 | #
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Someone should tell the Imams that a bunch of crazy sickos pretending to be Muslims are giving Islam a bad name by posting hate threats here. They are so sick they are actually wishing their fellow humans to Hell.
For the truth about Islam 'the relilgion of peace' check out Ali Sina's faith freedom web site.
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02.Feb.06 - 17:00 | #
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dont believe u did this:S u are really sick u know, I mean I don't draw your mum with a fat big ass for ex. pff really you sucks YOUR draws SUCKS I think your whole life sucks and you hate us, muslims, because if you really wasn't stupid and like this, mmm just don't know what to say! Only people who are muslim can feel what I feel, I mean Did we, MUSLIMS, did anything wrong to the Christian people...? No!! it's just sick. W allah 7a y7asbak! No one, only Allah can punish you. All the people who draw this sort of things: ALLAH will punish you and some day maybe you lose your fingers nchallah...!! sicksicksick.... *-) pfff i swear I am so sad, bcz i dan't do anything.! ciaooo and remember this: some day you will regret for what you are doing!! i am asking you... can you plz stop with this nonsence
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02.Feb.06 - 17:01 | #
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hey Coldfusion
am a muslim.. no one has the right to force their religion... its ur own choose... but we should respect all religion regardless of wht religion it may be.....
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02.Feb.06 - 17:03 | #
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I don't believe war is inevitable (although it is happening now) - I am anti-war and believe we should do all in our power to reduce the amount of violence in the world and strive for the values of freedom and tolerance - and equal opportunity to education. Did you know you can get into trouble for carrying a bible in Saudi? I'm not a christian but I would demand the write to carry any religious tract I desire - anywhere in the world. Equally I would demand the right to carry secular texts - philosophy, treatise on human rights - women's rights, the rights of all.
I have worked extensively in the arab world, have many islamic friends - I feel I understand more about the diverse islamic culture than most in the west.
But the majority of their governments are rotten to the core, corrupt as hell and totally unrepresentative of the people - it is no wonder that many find solace in religious dogma or hatred of the west - it is the only acceptable outlet for their frustrations. If they complained about their own governments they are liable to end up in prison.
I would also say something about the blatant hypocricy of the Gulf - rich saudi muslims treck over the causeway to Bahrain every weekend to drink until they can hardly stand - sleep with desperate russian prostitutes and then get in their cars and drive back. I know of one young man (British) run down and killed by one of these men. The police did nothing - he was probably from the house of saud.
Then there is the mass exploitation of asian workers in the Gulf - men of Bangladesh, Pakistan and India leave their families for two years at a time to earn five dollars a week. They are subject to barely human living conditions, hideously exploitative employers and blatant racism. I had to take a bangladeshi man to the hospital when he broke his ribs in a fall - if I hadn't gone they wouldn't have treated him. They treated him as worse than a gutter rat - it left me seething. I argued with their employer - an evil man who cared nothing for his fellow human beings, and yet he still knelt and prayed. He would decide not to pay them and there was nothing I could do.
Eastern european girls are traded like cattle for the pleasure of rich arab men - and are frequently found murdered in the desert. Also poor families in Syria are forced to sell their daughters to rich saudis who have grown tired of their aging harems. This is not heresay - I stayed in the same hotel as one of these saudis - I asked him if he thought it was moral and if Allah would bless him for it - he spat at me. My Palestinian host also despised this man and the way he would exploit children - but it is all too common he told me. These are the same people suddenly taking a moral stance on cartoons printed half way around the world - does this make any sense?
My hope is that greater freedom of expression (ie the internet) will allow greater freedom of thought everywhere..
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02.Feb.06 - 17:04 | #
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WOW-ALL THIS HATRED FROM BOTH SIDES-WHY CANT EVERYONE ELSE LEAVE EVERYONE ELSE ALONE?? YOU DO YOUR THING AND I'LL DO MINE. WHATS WRONG WITH THAT? I AM A CHRISTIAN BUT I WILL TELL YOU RIGHT NOW I WOULD NEVER DISGRACE ANY RELIGOUS FIGURE-BE IT ALLAH, BUDDAH, THE CHRISTIAN GOD OR THE JEWISH GOD. BECAUSE NONE OF US REALLY KNOW IN THE END WHO IS RIGHT AND WHO IS WRONG-AND I DONT WANT TO TAKE THAT CHANCE WITH MY SOUL. I HOPE ALLAH IS THE TRUE GOD, 70 SOME VIRGINS DONT SOUND BAD-I HOPE BUDDAH IS GOD-I WOULD LIKE TO SMOKE SOME GANJA WITH HIM. I HOPE THE JEWISH GOD IS THE REAL GOD-I HAVE MANY QUESTIONS FOR HIM. I HOPE CHRIST IS THE LORD-THEN I WILL HAVE PEACE IN THE AFTER-LIFE. I HOPE THE HINDU'S ARE RIGHT-I'D LOVE TO COME BACK AS A RICH MAN. BE CAREFUL PEOPLE, YOU DONT KNOW HOW ITS GOING TO TURN OUT-RESPECT FOR ALL RELIGIONS IS THE SAFEST BET.
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02.Feb.06 - 17:05 | #
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almost every human thinks: muslims are terrorists!! oh my godd i dont know whyy you say that!! it's all garbage:S!! i swear and i am sure, that if you will be punished, You would say to yourself: if I could turn back the hands of time i wouldn't draw that and I would believee !!!
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02.Feb.06 - 17:18 | #
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WOW-ALL THIS HATRED FROM BOTH SIDES-WHY CANT EVERYONE ELSE LEAVE EVERYONE ELSE ALONE?? YOU DO YOUR THING AND I'LL DO MINE. WHATS WRONG WITH THAT? I AM A CHRISTIAN BUT I WILL TELL YOU RIGHT NOW I WOULD NEVER DISGRACE ANY RELIGOUS FIGURE-BE IT ALLAH, BUDDAH, THE CHRISTIAN GOD OR THE JEWISH GOD. BECAUSE NONE OF US REALLY KNOW IN THE END WHO IS RIGHT AND WHO IS WRONG-AND I DONT WANT TO TAKE THAT CHANCE WITH MY SOUL. I HOPE ALLAH IS THE TRUE GOD, 70 SOME VIRGINS DONT SOUND BAD-I HOPE BUDDAH IS GOD-I WOULD LIKE TO SMOKE SOME GANJA WITH HIM. I HOPE THE JEWISH GOD IS THE REAL GOD-I HAVE MANY QUESTIONS FOR HIM. I HOPE CHRIST IS THE LORD-THEN I WILL HAVE PEACE IN THE AFTER-LIFE. I HOPE THE HINDU'S ARE RIGHT-I'D LOVE TO COME BACK AS A RICH MAN. BE CAREFUL PEOPLE, YOU DONT KNOW HOW ITS GOING TO TURN OUT-RESPECT FOR ALL RELIGIONS IS THE SAFEST BET.
RL BIGHAM |
02.Feb.06 - 17:26 | #
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I'm Muhammed (PBUH) and I approved of these drawings!
Muhammed (PBUH) |
02.Feb.06 - 17:27 | #
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Very good posting from "Voice of Reason"
Keep it going.
I tracked down four of the cartoons now and have them on My Blog. If you find others, post a comment and I will add them.
"Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people." - Karl Marx
Devout Atheist |
02.Feb.06 - 17:29 | #
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Shame on you
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02.Feb.06 - 17:32 | #
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Without wanting to 'incite racial hatred' (cheers Mr Blair) ... they're not very imaginative cartoons. If you're going to piss off one of the largest religions in the world, you could at least have made them funny!
I don't hear anyone whinging about Trey Parker and Matt Stone's portrayal of Jesus in 'South Park' ... they gave him his own TV chat show for goodness sake!
I wouldn't say that I'm religious, but I'm not a total atheist either. I find the factual content of Holy Books such as the Quran and Bible dubious to say the least, but surely the important thing is that they encourage us to treat one another with respect? There are obviously a great number of people here who've missed the point.
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02.Feb.06 - 17:49 | #
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As a defender/promoter of Freedom of Speech, CAN YOU TALK about THE HOLOCAUSTE? Can discuss this piont????
SAMI |
02.Feb.06 - 18:00 | #
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I declare a fatwa on all muslums!
I'm Muhammed (PBUH) and I approved of this message!
Muhammed (PBUH) |
02.Feb.06 - 18:12 | #
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My support to you. You are doing the correct thing.
No longer must we be subjected to politically correct nonsense.
Kenneth Hislop |
02.Feb.06 - 18:16 | #
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Muslims:
Can one of you post a joke to prove that there is any humor whatsoever in Muslim culture? Come on, publish a good Jesus joke. We can take it!
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02.Feb.06 - 18:19 | #
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Lets look at history a minute. all you rag-heads want to criticize the west. Yet you come in droves to experience our freedoms and luxuries. In America we have been around a few hundred years, and in that time we have created a democratic/wealthy society. You "people of color" have been around for thousands of years and still shit in the streets. Why the governments of the west insist on supporting the niggers in africa and the sand-niggers in the middle east is beyond me. They want to kill us, say we are the scourge of the world, blow up our shit and kill our people. Yet we send BILLIONS of dollars every year to these camel-humping fucks. The muslims and the niggers are right-we are stupid and brainless. If we werent we would stay the hell out of those places and let the dumb-asses starve, kill each other off-and fuck theirselves to death spreading aids. Then we wouldnt have to worry about it. They want to curse us, but they want our dollars-what fucking hypocrites. And to all you rag-head cock-suckers I say this-If your allah and dick sucking mohammed are so fucking great then why do they let your people live in poverty and despair??-why do they let your religion and your people be the 3rd world??-Why do millions of you rag-headed cocksuckers envy the west?? You fucks want to come to our countries to escape your own fucked up governments and civilizations-then you want to scream foul-WHAT THE FUCK?? I thank the real god everyday I was born in the good old U.S. of A and that I wasnt born a nigger or even worse a sand nigger. What we should do is send all you fucks back to your "beloved" homelands and let you fucks rot in your own shit-sick of you bastards
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02.Feb.06 - 18:55 | #
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JUST WANNA SAY THAT those pics u put up of the prophet muhammed (p.b.u.h) arent nice and i dnt fink u shud put em up
why dnt u do pics lyk dat of jesus for heh?
Arifa |
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02.Feb.06 - 19:04 | #
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Lets look at history a minute. all you rag-heads want to criticize the west. Yet you come in droves to experience our freedoms and luxuries. In America we have been around a few hundred years, and in that time we have created a democratic/wealthy society. You "people of color" have been around for thousands of years and still shit in the streets. Why the governments of the west insist on supporting the niggers in africa and the sand-niggers in the middle east is beyond me. They want to kill us, say we are the scourge of the world, blow up our shit and kill our people. Yet we send BILLIONS of dollars every year to these camel-humping fucks. The muslims and the niggers are right-we are stupid and brainless. If we werent we would stay the hell out of those places and let the dumb-asses starve, kill each other off-and fuck theirselves to death spreading aids. Then we wouldnt have to worry about it. They want to curse us, but they want our dollars-what fucking hypocrites. And to all you rag-head cock-suckers I say this-If your allah and dick sucking mohammed are so fucking great then why do they let your people live in poverty and despair??-why do they let your religion and your people be the 3rd world??-Why do millions of you rag-headed cocksuckers envy the west?? You fucks want to come to our countries to escape your own fucked up governments and civilizations-then you want to scream foul-WHAT THE FUCK?? I thank the real god everyday I was born in the good old U.S. of A and that I wasnt born a nigger or even worse a sand nigger. What we should do is send all you fucks back to your "beloved" homelands and let you fucks rot in your own shit-sick of you bastards
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02.Feb.06 - 19:06 | #
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RACIST ASSHOLE U TALK SHIT OUTTA UR MOUTH NEVA MIND SHITTIN ON STREETS!!
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02.Feb.06 - 19:07 | #
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Dear editor
I very much appreciate your defiant courage and stength of character, the way you decided to depict prophet Muhammad, declining critics and above 1.5 bl offences, in the name of freedom of expression! I'm very curious however to find out how far can you stretch your belief, and how strongly can you stand by your principals-as Jllands-posten, if I decided to take you a step further down the line to put you to the test of a simlar challenge with a different customer: To be specific can your news paper,(for the sake of freedom of expression), bring to light the 'taboo' of the holocoast-still padlocked in my mind-in your front pages, and if you could claim to carry out an invesgation-to unveil the 'truth' about the real figures of deaths of jews, as kept in the German records, since the world war? Are you up for it?
Please do send me a copy, if you take on this challege and 'pass' the test, at any time. You also have my pernmission to engrave it on my epitaph, if I am dead!
If your detemination for the sake of freedom of speech however can not take you this far, you have failed the 'test', and prove to me and the world beyond any doubt that the Danish freedom of expression is a
GENETICALY MODIFIED FREEDOM!
in the name of freedom of expression,
PLease do not ignore this comment!
yours
RCH |
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02.Feb.06 - 19:10 | #
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There are several things which offend me - like paedophilia and bestiality. As a result, I never visit websites which have content that I wouldn't wish to see.
The huge number of people who appear to have sought out a website which they knew would offend them puzzles me. They should keep away from such sites and reserve their abysmal invective for situations which invade them, uninvited.
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02.Feb.06 - 19:31 | #
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Good job you have my support... keep up the good work
Christopher |
02.Feb.06 - 19:36 | #
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I WANT TO KILL MUSLUMS! ATTACK!
SPAIN NEVER FORGETS!
Cellphone: (+46) 070-9302160
Adress:
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Daniel Johansson |
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02.Feb.06 - 19:45 | #
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YOU CALL ME A RACIST-I GUESS I AM-BUT ITS YOU FUCKING RAG-HEAD, CAMEL HUMPING COCKSUCKERS THAT HAVE MADE ME THIS WAY-AND I NOTICED YOU HAD NO REBUTTAL OF THE FACTS-THERE IS NO SUCCESSFUL COUNTRY IN OUR ENTIRE WORLD THAT IS LEAD BY "PEOPLE OF COLOR". SORRY YOU FUCKING SAND NIGGER BUT THE FACTS ARE THE FACTS.
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02.Feb.06 - 19:45 | #
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thank you for doing what others are too cowardly to do!
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02.Feb.06 - 19:45 | #
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I don't know who Muhammad is and I really don't care. I can tell you one thing though, Satan thrives with that religion. And the Quran is the bible of Satan. To take innocent lives in the name of Muhammad or the Quran, something all muslims swear by, then that cannot be a representation of a God of peace. Even if you support terrorism then you are a pawn for Satan.
What do muslims expect when they carry out terror the way they do? This is all they have shown the world what thier religion is about. Its on the media everyday so basically they bring it upon themselves.
When terror is done in the name of Muhammad then the muslims have given Muhammad a face.
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02.Feb.06 - 19:49 | #
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I don't know who Muhammad is and I really don't care. I can tell you one thing though, Satan thrives with that religion. And the Quran is the bible of Satan. To take innocent lives in the name of Muhammad or the Quran, something all muslims swear by, then that cannot be a representation of a God of peace. Even if you support terrorism then you are a pawn for Satan.
What do muslims expect when they carry out terror the way they do? This is all they have shown the world what thier religion is about. Its on the media everyday so basically they bring it upon themselves.
When terror is done in the name of Muhammad then the muslims have given Muhammad a face.
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02.Feb.06 - 19:49 | #
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The holocaust, the nazis (who have now been punished) attempted to kill off the jews, they were stopped. i dont know any jokes about it, because its not funny.
ive read about half of what has been written in the above comments, numerous threats towards the west and the person who runs this website, i support the owner of this website because he allows you your right to freedom of speech to comment on his website, if he deleted ALL of your threatening and vicious attacks on himself and his country then he would be denying your freedom of speech, but he does not. Im looking forward to buying a paper tomorrow and hopefully finding a copy of these images along with a rational two sided debate on them by two rational (not hysterical) minded people from the two viewpoints that are affected by these images.
to those that threaten violence and such like, shame on you. you bring your own religeon into disrepute. we constantly see images of 'radicals' burning flags but my question to you is - why dont you stop them? we only have one planet, we all have gods, we all respect our own gods and as has been commented above, cast down the others,
christians in the west and the east for they do exist, persecuted by such people as the ones who made the threats i have read, follow our commandments as passed down to moses, the one i respect the most - You shall not kill - i wish all faiths followed that one.
but they dont, the koran with its kill all the infidels encouragement, is a reminder of our past, when the christians and the muslims fought over jerusalem, we still fight over it today, i wish we didnt need to fight.
All religeons claim to want peace, then why do you want to kill us? maim us and destroy us? where is your peace? will you have peace when you have blood on your hands? no god wants his disciples to kill others in his name, so why do you do it?
im sorry that i seem to have switched from what i originally wanted to write about, but lets be honest, its not really about the images is it?
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02.Feb.06 - 19:51 | #
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Well, what can I say. As obviously one is not allowed to say his own opinion in the Muslim world why would they be allowed to say there opinion here? Because we are living in a democracy where you separate the state from religion. In the western world there is something called freedom of speech, because jokes free up your mind. The day the Muslim world understands what Calvin did to the Christians and what Gutenberg did to the world that day Christians and Muslims can really start coexist. You need courage and knowledge when you want to speak up alone.
Just read some Oriana Fallacia and you will understand better.
Democracy |
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02.Feb.06 - 19:55 | #
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I am a muslim, from a muslim country. Whole my life I have been treating all non-muslims very well, trying not to offend them, especially with regards to their religion, and I will contunue to do so. Every Muslim beleives that Islam is superior to all other religions, as I am sure every Christian or Jew beleives his religion is. That is the point of Belief! Now, I see here so many comments, that to say the least are racist in nature. Some people seem to have forgotten, that we live in interconnected world. Something that happens in the Middle East or Africa DOES affect US and the West. And lets not forget that West had prospered not alone, but AT THE EXPENSE of slaves, natural and other resources UNFAIRLY extracted from the colonies.
To me, mutual respect is a key, and if it takes to limit freedom of speech to exclude religious ridiculing for the sake of peace - than lets do it. And as a Muslim, I leave the punishment to God, because He knows best who is right and who is wrong.
Tolerant Muslim |
02.Feb.06 - 20:01 | #
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Very good PR for you idiots, the more you complain the more the CIVILIZED people counteract:
http://media.guardian.co.uk/
site...1700733,00.html
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/
orga...to_publish.html
http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/
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Notice how in the BBC blog the *ratings* of the posts are distributed between pro and con censorship!
You are gonna have to boycott *everything* European.
Just curious how you will manage, ROTFL
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02.Feb.06 - 20:14 | #
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i was shocked when i read the comments of some ignorent persons who do not know any thing about islam and talking about it as they well studing it and i believe they do not either have abr
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