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Can you post the link to the music?
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07.09.09 - 10:14 am | #
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Long tradition
http://tinyurl.com/kv2v49
I think Dov posted it here once
Hershey |
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07.09.09 - 10:29 am | #
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a light and sound show unto the nations
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07.09.09 - 11:32 am | #
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I just spent 2 weeks on vacation in Costa Rica and Nicaragua, which was incredibly wonderful overall, but there was a similar incident from that trip that will always stand out in my mind.
On my first night in Nicaragua, I stayed at a town called San Carlos (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Carlos,_R%C3%
ADo_San_Juan). It’s a dingy little port town where the residents are very poor and no one speaks a word of English, and needless to say, there is absolutely no Jewish presence whatsoever. After coming out of the restaurant where my friend and I had dinner, we were greeted by the sight of three kids begging us for some money. At first we just ignored them and walked by, but something about one of them caught my eye. For some reason, his shirt seemed familiar somehow. I turned back to take another look, and couldn’t believe my eyes. The kid was wearing a Camp Rayim t-shirt! (I was a camper at Camp Rayim the first year that they opened (I think around 1986?), and returned there a few times after that, as an SA and also a JC.)
Naturally, I totally freaked out, and started shouting excitedly to my friend to come back and have look. The poor Nicaraguan kid had no idea what I was so worked up about. We tried explaining to him that I went to the camp where the shirt was from, but I don’t think he even understood the very concept of summer camp, so we just gave him a dollar and took a picture. The rest of the night I couldn’t stop talking about the crazy coincidence of seeing a Camp Rayim T-shirt on a non-Jewish boy in Nicaragua! (And actually, I realized too late that I should have gone back and checked the name tag on the shirt – maybe it was once mine!)
The Hedyot |
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07.09.09 - 12:00 pm | #
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tsk tsk-
tarfus
The Bray of Fundie |
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07.09.09 - 2:00 pm | #
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Tarfus?
How is it to the denizens of KJ? Trefus?
Hershey |
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07.09.09 - 2:08 pm | #
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I'm not from Hungahrisher upshtahm. Slightly different mispronunciations in my neck of the woods. 
The Bray of Fundie |
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07.09.09 - 3:04 pm | #
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By us "Traifis" were the halukhis in Tohr/BesYosif.
Tarfus was the eating of things those halukhis prohibited.
The Bray of Fundie |
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07.09.09 - 3:06 pm | #
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What's the tarfus?
The Hedyot |
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07.09.09 - 4:02 pm | #
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Ah yes. First time I heard "muy kwai ah muy kwai, ngoh oi ney", I thought 'my that's a pleasant little tune'. Several years later I discovered that there was also a song in English called 'Rose, Rose, I love you'.
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On the other hand, never having heard the Star Spangled banner until I returned to the US, I knew that particular tune as a humorous and absolutely unprintable song about "our old uncle John" ('Unse auwe oom Jan'), and his many conquests and disgusting sexual adventures. A nice old fashioned drinking song, in fact.
I have to struggle to keep my face straight at ballgames.
At The Back of the Hill |
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07.09.09 - 4:16 pm | #
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>What's the tarfus?
This:
there is absolutely no Jewish presence whatsoever. After coming out of the restaurant where my friend and I had dinner,
no Jewish presence whatsoever+ the restaurant= a non-kosher eatery
The Bray of Fundie |
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07.09.09 - 4:24 pm | #
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It's sad just how distorted your view of the world is, especially in regards to halacha. "No Hechsher" does not mean that everything in the eatery is not kosher.
While for myself keeping kosher is not the least bit of a concern, my traveling partner was someone who does strictly observe kashrut, and she managed to travel 2 weeks throughout Costa Rica and Nicaragua without ever violating the laws of kashrut. (And without ever going hungry. There is plenty that can be done with rice, beans, pasta, fish, eggs, fruits and vegetables, and more.)
Just because contemporary Jews such as yourself follow the strictest and most extreme laws of kashrut (cholov yisrael, glatt, bishul yisrael, two sets of dishes, filtering water, inspecting vegetables with a magnifying glass, etc.) doesn't mean that those who don't follow such practices are eating tarfus.
The Hedyot |
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07.09.09 - 4:48 pm | #
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It's sad just how distorted your view of the world is,
then
While for myself keeping kosher is not the least bit of a concern
וכן למר
The Bray of Fundie |
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07.09.09 - 5:07 pm | #
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And the fact that a person who doesn't even practice halacha has a better understanding of aspects of it than one who claims to adhere to it is even more disturbing.
The Hedyot |
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07.09.09 - 5:09 pm | #
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On the other hand, never having heard the Star Spangled banner until I returned to the US, I knew that particular tune as a humorous and absolutely unprintable song about "our old uncle John" ('Unse auwe oom Jan'), and his many conquests and disgusting sexual adventures. A nice old fashioned drinking song, in fact.
The melody for "The Star Spangled Banner" came from another song, itself. The British knew it as "The Anacreontic Song" aka "To Anacreon in Heaven."
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One who strictly observes the laws of Kashrut should also be aware of the laws of Maarit Ayin restricting one's access to non kosher eateries.
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07.09.09 - 11:03 pm | #
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> One who strictly observes the laws of Kashrut should also be aware of the laws of Maarit Ayin restricting one's access to non kosher eateries.
TH -
Totally irrelevant. Firstly, the person is not strictly halachic overall, they just are strict about observing kosher. Secondly, the issue here isn't about overall halachic appropriateness. The issue is that making an accusation of eating tarfus just because someone eats at a non-kosher restaurant is simply wrong. Parenthetically, I wonder if marit ayin is even relevant in a place where there are no Jews to speak of (and most people probably never even heard of Judaism), and where there were absolutely no indicators about us that we were Jewish.
Lastly, what I find most interesting of all about your comment is that instead of praising someone for maintaining a commitment to kosher even in very difficult circumstances, you find it necessary to criticize her for not keeping an extra stringency that is not really part of the law. That's exactly the kind of Judaism that so many people find incredibly off-putting.
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