oh I get it, the Shining... good to have you back dude.
Great win by the C's against Chicago, by the way. I wasn't able to take notes when I watched it, thus no recap.
Just a thought after re-reading yr post - You know, Googs gets a lot of shit, but the guy is pretty effective when he's out there. He rebounds, passes first, and if the shot is there he takes it. He's tough, he just hasn't had the chance to play a lot and show his worth. Has the guy played more than 8 minutes in any game this season?
take out your tampon and give praise to a guy who sweated out a hard earned double double and complemented his teamates (perkins especially) afterward. you sound kind of pathetic, have some fun and enjoy a couple of good games where the team has played hard and like a cohesive unit. have fun with the journey, unless you just enjoy being angry and bitter. if that's the case become a knicks fan, plenty of objects for your scorn down there.
Thanks for the comment big willie. For me at least, the journey would be more fun without our sulking star, a case I have made over and over. This is a young and exciting team sans Pierce.
Do you have anything substantive to offer in PP’s defense? Remind me again how he shot? I don’t see how my patheticness has anything to do with PP missing open shots.
good point Willie, but I think PO should leave the tampon in if he is indeed having his period.
Come on PO, someone's finally taking you on since yr expulsion from Celticsblog. Fight back! Or give the man some credit.
I like this sight a great deal but give credit where it's due, Pierce's rebounding and defensive intensity are one of the key components to victory on Saturday night. He basically stopped shooting and used himself as a weakside decoy preventing a quick double team of Ricky on the block against Gordon. His defensive rebounding was monstrous and it is somethjng he's been concentrating on.
I'm not trying to make Pierce into a top 50 all time player, I just think his value over a replacement player is very good and he is vital to this team right now. If you want to go after someone I suggest Blount, Walter, or Jiri.
Those guys are too easy to go after.
Let me get this straight, you want me to give a guy who couldn’t shot all night credit for not shooting?
Perhaps your right big willie, congratulations Paul, seven years in the NBA and you’ve finally learned that when you are not shooting well, give up the ball to someone, preferably on your team (5 TO’s), who is.
He shot 2-12!! Payton and buckets bailed him out.
furhter proof that two people can watch the same exact thing and come to a different conclusion. Pierce shooting 2-12 yet still getting 18 points and grabbing 15 boards means he created a ton of offense despite not shooting well. He drew a ton of fouls and kept Deng and Curry away from Ricky in the fourth. The team adapted and went to another option with Ricky and Payton, this is a good thing not a bad thing. Ricky helped the team win but if to you that means he 'bailed Pierce out' then so be it.
I guess Pierce bailed out blount with his 13 defensive rebounds, Gary bailed out Raef with his 23 points, and Marcus bailed out Walter with his play in the third quarter? This is what TEAMS do, they adapt to a situation, Ricky vs. Gordon on the block is a MISMATCH, Deng is a defensive stopper and can give Pierce fits so they went with another scoring option. I see that not as an indictment of Pierce but rather the team playing situational basketball. A damn good sign.
Good sign for the team, yes. Good sign for PP, no.
The team is losing faith in Pierce (notice one of Doc’s recent comments), and for good reason, especially during crunch time. They have seen him force one too many shots, and dribble too often into double teams resulting in turnovers. Pierce scored by getting fouled going to the basket, which is in general a very good thing. But how long will this very old 27 year old be able to continue such play?
He’s already lost his shot, and soon he will lose his ability to drive to the basket and draw fouls.
He’s great on the boards, yes, but is that why we’re paying him the max?
You also talk like PP made the decision to let others shot; I think the decision was made for him by his teammates. I hope GP’s comments regarding being more involved continue this trend of keeping the ball away from PP in the fourth.
I think there's two discussions here - one is about Pierce in the Chicago game, the other is Pierce longterm. I agree with Willie that shitting all over Pierce after he has a good game is kind of sad, but on the other hand, I agree with PO that Pierce is only going to get slower and is already a very old 27... Pierce for Deng baby!
from the herald;
The Celtics by the numbers:
His 2-for-12 night in Chicago notwithstanding, Paul Pierce [news] has warmed to the new year. In his previous eight games, he'd made 71-of-145 shots from the floor (49 percent).
Pierce's only shooting issue in that span was from beyond the 3-point arc. Even with a 3-for-3 night Wednesday against Indiana, Pierce was just 7-for-31 (22.6 percent) in the eight games. That means he was 64-for-114 (56.1 percent) on 2-pointers during that time.
As far as Doc's comments, the last thing I remember Doc saying was that they had to get Pierce the ball more at the end of games....
When it comes down to it, I think we should pay PP just for the boards. We need them BADLY, and don't have any to spare. Danny should pay anyone who can get boards, because Blount is sad. 1 rebound every 30 minutes from our center is pretty bad.
I really just can't on anyone but Blount at this moment. Ricky had a great game, Pierce passed before shooting, and we beat a pretty good team. No complaints (except for the refs).
Yeah, everyone looked pretty good and played well together in Chicago. Jiri was solid, Pierce showed a lot of will, and as much as I hate to say it even Banks had a decent game.
I'm not trying to change the subject, but what are people's feelings on how we'll play without GP? (after he gets traded).
I did think Banks through in some very solid minutes. D-West has been sitting in the crowd so it is unlikely we are going to be able to count on him for major minutes anytime soon.
(Once GP is gone) I think Danny is going to use Ricky at the point alot when Banks and West aren't on the floor. I have noticed that he has been bringing the ball up and setting the offense quite a bit even while GP is playing. I think they are doing so if they don't get another pg they can at least have Ricky as back up.
yeah, I think you're right about Ricky. they'll probably also put West and Jiri on the floor together a lot too, doing the two-man "neither of us is a pure point but we pass the ball well" routine. I can't see Banks aquitting himself so well that he gets 30+ minutes a game though. In fact, I still think there's a slight chance the guy gets moved before the deadline, or almost definitely over the summer. But I could be completely wrong.
If we somehow manage to get a marquis point guard for a GP + someone else move, that someone else could be Banks. It is probably the only way another team would do it. The only one really being shopped right now that I've heard of though is Baron Davis, and the salaries just don't work.
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