Read the Mutoni. Look, I'm pretty pissed aout the way things have turned out too: the mammoth contracts for stiffs; the hiring of a guy who has never won anything either as a player or coach; the constant trades with teams that suck even worse than we do in the ridiculous hope that we'll find some diamond in the rough; the BS around the draft picks and the endless refrain of "we're a young team," to cover up the fact that Ainge has had three years and all he has to show for it is a lottery pick he traded to the worst team in the league for a point guard who couldn't win the starting job.
That having been said, it's too bad you had to go over the top. Pierce is one of the top ten players in the league. But don't take my word for it, check out the numbers and analysis at http://dberri.wordpress.com/2006...tics-in-2005-
06. The Celtics will score. They won't play defense, take care of the ball, or execute with the game on the line. Put them down for 38-42 wins, if they stay healthy.
yeah, I was a little harsh on Pierce, but it's just part of the fun of tweaking the Kool Aiders. I also think Pierce is going to have a hard time duplicating his season (for many reasons, including Bassy "running" the point), and I think there's an implosion up ahead when they all quit on Doc. I agree that they might have the talent to win 38 games, but they'll never execute with Coc running the show, and by time he's fired it'll be too late to make up ground. I firmly believe they will challenge the Knicks for worst record in the East.
"Gant" who posts on another message board under another name, is obsessed with my (putatively) bad call on Rondo. Now he's saying I have no manners when he goes around initiating posts about how "wrong" I was. It's really amazing to me how the fucking Kool-Aid gang can say whatever they want about anyone and anything who disagrees with them, but CelticsDoom criticizes the underachieving Celtics organization, and we're dismissed as assholes. Uncanny.
As for Rondo, I recall many of these same people getting all giddy about Orien Greene last year. I don't think Rondo will tank, certainly, but there's a big difference between kicking ass in a few preseason games and actually doing it during 82 real ones.
This study fails to account for the Coc Rivers Paradox.
The preference for known risks over unknown risks. For example; At the end of a close game Coc would rather put 5 players on the court that all remind him in some way shape or form of his own youthful self (i.e. 6' to 6'5" tall, inconsistant jumper, good handle, never won the big prize at any level of organized basketball) in favor of a lineup that adequately matches up with the other team and or attempts to exploit there weakness.
Not so coincidently this is almost the exact same as the Danny Ainge paradox except Ainge now has the assistance of a quack Briggs Myers theorist to scour the NBA for potential trades that are at best lateral moves for 'potential' and at worst exercises in selling a pile of wrecked goods as a franchise saving move. Usually it entails a complete contradiction of every theory Ainge has espoused up until that point.
Combine the Ainge-Coc Paradox with your computations and you are left with a 25 to 30 win team.
Don't hold your breath for that lottery pick though Ainge will have traded it for Mike Dunleavy come February.
I just read through your blog for the first time. What a heaping pile of dog doodoo. At least at Celticsblog you have people who believe in some of our young players and their potential and want to see this team improve. All you do here is put down every possible thing you can about player's abilities and management's moves yada yada yada. You're beating a dead horse already. Oh my god every team in the league has better young players than we do!!!! LOL. Give me a break. It seems like the only reason you think they are better is because they are not wearing a Celtics jersey. I'll make sure to come back here when the green makes the playoffs and begins to make some noise and see what bs your selling then.
Celticfanman, I aplaud your parody of what we rail against here.
Willie, that #1's ready to be packaged with Ratliff to trade for Raef Lafrentz, an NBA veteran big man who can "spread the defense" and who by that point will only have two years left on his contract. You heard it hear first.
PS: I was watching Wrath of God the other night and found myself thinking that Wyc is Aguirre and those little monkeys on the boat in the end are the Dance Squad.
I'm guess Celticfanman isn't one of those thechnocrat bloggers that would have been working in the RAND corportation 30 years ago but now spend their time breaking down win shares, VORP, and chuckling at the latest Bill Simmons fiasco.
btw/ I don't really understand the Malcolm Gladwell phenomenon. He seems like one of those flavor of the months that we'll look back on in 10 or 20 years and cringe that we elevated him to such lofty status based on such mediocre bullshit.
On my date with Alexis from the Dance Squad, I talked about how I can't believe Doc is still running this team ofter last season. She agreed and quickly changed the subject to the last episode of "Lost"
Welcome back Dr.
You know, underachevers is the only word needed to describe this team on the bench and also in the front office. It would have never been accepted in the Bird era.
Hold on. I am getting an IM from Alexis.....
34 wins seems reasonable. Pierce just got paid, so there is a chance his performance and/or attitude won't be what they were last year. Ratliff could help, but it's unlikely he will be able to log big minutes or a lot of games.
Bottom line is still that our starting center averaged 5ppg 6rpg last year - and just 7 and 7 after the break.
Jefferson, Green, and Allen are yet to contribute, and DWest is likely to be marginalized by a rookie and a guy who couldn't crack the Blazers' starting 5.
Coupled with Wally's injury concerns and the fact that there is a good chance Olowokandi will be on the team, there is no logic in predicting .500 or the playoffs at this point. It'd be nice if 1 or 2 of the young guys were able to consistently produce. That's really a best case scenario as far as I'm concerned for this year. Well, Pierce blowing out his ACL and Boston getting the #1 pick would be best case scenario, but that's not the point. This team barely went .500 at home last year and actually had a WORSE record after the AS break.
Also Coc has publically committed to not having a rotation this season, and Jeff thinks we've got the pieces to get not one, but two veteran all-stars.
I don't get it, nor do I see over .500 and sneaking into the playoffs. But even if they do who cares? This team is incredibly far away from contending for a championship and with no realistic way of getting there.
Do people's assholes in California stink?
Good site, Doc.
A little harsh, in my opinion, but certainly preferable to the belligerant pollyannas at Celtics Blog, who remind me of Bush supporters.
This is CLEARLY a bad basketball team again, saddled with one top notch talent in Pierce, a bunch of questionable draft picks, a center who does more to stop the Celtics offense than any other NBA defense and an absolute idiot for a coach.
Wyc, sell the team. Now.
"Dr Chestnutt is an idiot. I’m sure he a fat slob, who lives in his mothers basement."
he forgot to mention serial pedophile and sexual predator.
hahaha, right now I wish I lived in my mother's basement, at least I'd have the internet and FSN New England.
myassholestnx, they stink even worse, bringing new meaning to the term "three hours behind." But at least I'm not on Mountin' Time
EJ - can I just copy what you wrote and use it for the season preview? I couldn't agree more.
JJ, yr right, we tend to be a bit harsh, but the Kool Aiders force us to be. When Jerky and I started this site, we believed in the Ainge plan as much as anyone, we just wanted to see it actually brought to fruition (ie: rip it all down and start over). We'd have been content watching this team flounder, as long as it was truly in a rebuilding phase. Unfortunately, as we've often decried, it's this half-assed "put inexpensive pieces around Pierce" thing that's a total recipe for failure.
Paul, I'm sure Alexis is a big X-files fan. A "shipper" from the old days.
Root for the Lakers.
It'd save you a lot of trouble.
so DC are you living in Cali now? does that mean you are going to pay for leaguepass to see celtics games? talk about masochism...
The Globe is reporting that Scalabrine is back and able to practice. Whew! I was getting worried.
Damn. I don't know what to do with myself on this blog without that stupid CelticsBlog shit.
I can't find any "Tony Allen is a poor man's Dwayne Wade" threads over here.
And on another topic, Godspeed Red.
At least you won't have to watch another lousy season of Celtics basketball.
And on behalf of most of us, I'm sorry that the last 20 years of your life were spent watching one idiot after another - with the latest being Ainge - tear down your life's work.
I may have this wrong, but ddn't he say he'd die before the Celtics had cheerleaders?
Yeah, I remember that.
I'm sure it was painful for Red to watch this franchise become ordinary and irrelevant - on the court, around the court with those stupid dancers and certainly in the front office.
"And on behalf of most of us, I'm sorry that the last 20 years of your life were spent watching one idiot after another - with the latest being Ainge - tear down your life's work."
well said JJ, really, every Celtics fan should read that. It's a sad day and all that, and I have nothing to add. Except that I cringe at how Wyc is going to handle the PR angle on this. BobbleRed dolls? A DVD tribute of Red cringing at home games over the past 9 years? The Wyc-ettes going back to their stripper gigs at The Gold Club and giving a half-price lapper to anyone named Arnold who has a stub from a home game? The possibilities are endless.
WPDK - thanks for coming back. Yeah, leaguepass might happen if I stay here longer than originally planned, but right now I'm trying to find a sports bar that might show games. As you can imagine, my search thus far has been half-hearted at best.
I don't watch movies so I had to ask my wife about the Ishtar reference. Hilarious..and hilariously accurate, Dr. If the coach, the intensity, and the defense over the last two years haven't been grossly blastphemous to the greatest franchise in sport's history, having the thugster in Green would have buried it. Thank God Red (rest in peace) never had to see it..
I may be one of the few, but I find great info in both sites. Keep up the good work, DR.
This may sound kind of weird, but last night when we set our clocks back from daylight savings to standard time, I told my wife "We got an hour back". This morning I found out the news about Red and told her "We lost Auerbach". As she rolled her eyes, the irony struck me. Good old Red, special to the end.
I imagine the Fucking Dance Team will do some kind of cigar dance, both to honor Red and to be sexually suggestive like idiotic sports dance teams are barely paid to be.
On a related note, I watched all the preseason games (yeah, no life but it's probably better than suicide) and I was amazed that in the two Boston games, I can't remember even seeing the Fucking Dance Team except once, after the game, when they were leaving the floor, in street clothes. They were all frowning like they were pissed of at something. Yaayyyyyyyyy Fucking Dance Team!
There isn't a lot left to say.
I'm waiting for Wyc to piss on the championship banners.
And for the next Celtics Blog thread: "Kendrick Perkins: The second coming of Bill Russell."
Great site. I appreciate any kind of responsible, realistic banter about a once-proud franchise. It's kinda tough out here with an actual good NBA team three hours away - the Hornets - but it's pretty hard to get what used to be out of your system.
Enjoying your posts, Jungle Jim.
In one of the preseason games, Tommy H actually had the audacity to say, "Perk has terrific hands," on the one possession in which Perk was actually able to catch a pass and place the ball in that hoop of metal that other players know as the basket. Perk has hands of stone, and still commits rookie fouls several times a game. Either Tommy was lying, or else he has been taken away by aliens and replaced by a talking PR machine (again).
I know what you mean.
Perkins does more to kill the Celtic offense in its tracks than any team's defense.
There's some merit in his rebounding, but the guy is like too many Celtics already - he couldn't guard a chair - plus he has no offensive skills on the block or out front, either.
This team is a pretty glaring Catch-22: The young players are all seriously flawed, and none of them are good enough to attract anything remotely helpful in return.
If the Iverson deal as rumored was even close, then AI must be finished.
Plus, the guy on the bench makes M.L. Carr look like Red.
BTW, Doc, I was a longtime member of CelticsBlog before I finally got fed up and requested the cancellation of my membership.Clark began appointing moderators from the top of the Kool-Aid club who began leaning on anyone who didn't think that number 17 is right around the corner.
Obviously, I don't. I'm in my 40s, and a basketball coach, and today I doubt if I'll live long enough to see 17.
And I don't plan on cashing in soon.
So I get your point about tweaking that silly shit over there. Summers were virtually insufferable over there anyway as those idiot posters annointed anyone with a pulse as the second coming of (fill in the blank.)
Tweak away. I love it.
I hear ya, Jungle Jim. I've been banned from CelticsBlog for not sucking Danny's cock.
Thanks, DC. I also moved recently, so to buy or not to buy leaguepass is a dilemma for me as well. i knew if the AI trade happened, i would buckle and spend the money. now i'm sort of hoping that the team underacheive's right from the start, so i don't get suckered in. but i don't have the willpower to be consistently pessimisstic, so i'm sure in a moment of weakness i will see a couple of gerald's dunks on sportscenter and pony up the cash.
More importantly, i think we all need to boo the danceteam at all celtic's games, in memory of red. it's what he would have wanted. let's start a movement. maybe this is something celticsdoom and celticsblog can agree on.
I too was banned from Celticsblog for disagreeing with Jeff. Should we start our own site?
no one has ever been banned from my site for disagreeing with me or for not drinking the cool aid, plain and simple - don't believe otherwise
no need to turn to hate, the Celtics are our common ground, regardless of how you feel they are doing
as usual, I tip my hat to Dr. C and to all Celtics fans
(and yes, I'm doing my best to pretend the dancers don't exist)
RIP Red
-Jeff
to be honest, jeff, i don't think it was you who banned me. i think many people who have issues with your site have it with your other moderators. With respect to you, you have removed posts that you have deemed "inappropriate" for whatever reason you decided. of course, you have that right since it's your site but you can't turn around and blame them when you are criticized for what you've done. i dare you to disclose how many you have banned and then proclaim that you haven't censored people. i don't think you can honestly do that.
I censor people for decency, which includes swearing or personal attacks against other posters
Its no secret that I've banned dozens of people for trollish attacks, spam, and overall disrespect to other posters - all of which are clearly outlined. On the other hand, some folks have gotten more rope from me than what they deserve. The inherent problem with moderation is that it is completely subjective.
Personally, I love it when people disagree with me. I love the other side of the coin. I can't help that mine is the dominant voice on my site and I have the right be be optimistic.
I understand the feeling that one is banned for what they believe, but it is driven from innacuracies. For example: Person 1 says something negative, then 3 other people counter with arguements of their own; Person 1 feels ganged up on and retaliates with personal attacks, then me or my mods step in and make warnings or straight up bans based on the level of offense.
It is possible that person got banned before they fully realized what they did wrong, for that I'm sorry, but I don't have time to teach every last person how I expect them to act on my site. At some point people need to take responsibility for themselves.
So I don't have any remorse for the way I run my site, nor would I feel the need to defend myself on someone else's site (sorry Dr. C) except that I know a number of banned folks come to this site - which I think is great.
So while I don't regret for one second the way my site is run, I do wish to let those that have been banned know that it isn't anything personal, just the way things are run. The tradeoff for having a clean, family-friendly site is acceptable in my mind.
Again, we are all Celtics fans first and I tip my hat to the members of CelticsDoom. This was a longer explaination than I wanted and I'll bow out now. Take care.
hmmm, maybe i will create the "Other CelticsBlog". i've thought about it for some time and i'm starting to think it would be kinda fun to have a watchdog site for Jeff's blog. of course, i would ban no-one (other than perhaps Jeff for the fun of it)
LOL, sounds like fun
Ahhh, fuck CelticsBlog. And Fuck Danny too. Incidentally, I found out about CelticsBlog from this site.
Keith Van Horn said through his agent that he is taking a year off.
All I can say is, thank fucking God. That was 5years/$45 million waiting to happen.
Jeff has been a good friend of CelticsDoom and I usually make great pains to differentiate between him and the handful of hardcore koolaid morons who post at his blog, It's the assholes on his site who call me "the biggest idiot on the internet" (and so on) that piss me off.
Boilpopper, hahaha, the "hour back" thing. I think lots of people this season will be saying that after Celtics games this year, as in, "that sucked, I want my (two) hourback"
I like Perk a lot, but we've (Jerky and I) long held to the idea that he's a great backup in the make, not a starter. Perk's the only consistent rebounder we have and actually has some toughness, unlike his pal Big Al. But his 2nd year, Pierce and the like got it into his head that he needed to be an "enforcer," and from then on he's mistaken psychotic-ness for aggressiveness.
Anyway, as I will probably not be doing many game reviews this year (owing to my relocation), hopefully this site'll remain a place for us all to vent, with occasional articles, etc. It's cool to see new people and old people and all that shit. It looks to be a definitive year for the notion of Celtics Doom.
This Nation is divided!!!!!!
No Left nor Right
Enroll the new movement
The Center.....
Viva la Politica!!!
That's a wad of crap, Jeff. That moderator of yours, Chris, harassed me for my dissenting opinions and forced me off the site.
Be honest. You don't want dissenting opinions on that site. You want happy talk.
And for the record, I sent you proof of his heavy-handed nonsense and you took no action.
So, I left.
You talk a great game, but you don't deliver. Nice try, but I'm going to call you out on this site every time you claim to "enjoy" dissent.+
And again, your site does not censor optimists who attack other posters - just the people who don't think the Celtics are going to win anything soon.
Husker is correct - I always found you to be respectable over there.
But you've got three or four certified assclowns for moderators, people who wouldn't know quality basketball if it hit them in the ass.
I seek intelligent discussion about the Celtics on a blog, not a silly-ass fan site.
Jungle Jim, you da man.
Sigh.
I feel like I've walked into the NBA version of Dick Cheney on waterboarding.
"When I said I favored waterboarding I didn't mean that I favored waterboarding."
I can second those comments about your moderators, Jeff. You seem like a swell guy, but some of your moderators, one in particular, I'm not too fond of to say the least. I'll just say his name rhymes with "magrid."
I'll admit to reading CelticsBlog once in a while, but if I have to read again about how good Delonte West is (apparently he's good enough to be a starter on the 90-91 Bulls), or the upside of Al Jefferson (this is no lie, Celticsbloggers actually believe this guy is superior to Drew Gooden), I'm going to run amock.
This site, in writing quality and content, is far superior.
I meant Carlos Boozer, but Drew Gooden still fits.
Jeff, I really don't have any issues with you personally. It's your blog and you can turn it into what you want.
But when you allow moderators to behave like yours do, then you're endorsing their behavior with your inaction.
If you want your blog to be all happy talk, that's cool. But don't come in here and do the fair and balanced routine because your blog is anything but.
Rocky, I know.
Kind of a contest to see which poster can offer up the dumbest, most hyperbolic post about one of the Mediocre Eight.
My personal favorite came during the finals last summer when some dolt posted that "Tony Allen is a poor man's Dwyane Wade."
Homeless man, maybe? Bankrupt man, definitely. Convicted man, absolutely.
But otherwise, mentioning Inmate #42 (love that name, Doc) in the same sentence as Wade is a crime against the great game of basketball.
If Jeff, and therefore his site, isn't nice, he doesn't get interviews with Celtic brass.
He thinks he's a journalist, not a blogger.
The sad thing is it presents an uneven view of Celtic fans. Jeff's site is amazingly popular, but the Celtics are not. If Wyc and the boys are reading Celtsblog, they think everything is going swell. Nothing could be further from the truth.
In essence, Celtsblog is preventing the Celtics from improving, because the owners don't want to make a move that may hurt in the short term because of knuckheads on Celtsblog.
Jeff may be a friend of CelticsDoom, Dr., but he’s no friend of the Celtics. They need to hear that their real fans are seeing through their bullshit – not filtered through a rated G web site.
Which brings me back to the suggestion above.
A balanced Celtics blog is desperately needed, complete with articles, etc., to counter the bellicose pollyannas on Jeff's blog.
the last thing the world needs is yet another celtics blog. aren't there more blogs for the celtics than any other sports team? god knows why.
Just don't have more Celtic team blogs than there are dots on the old bags backside. I had the misfortune to see her exiting the shower the other day and involuntarily exclaimed "Moley holey!"
I think Moley Holey is the name of some Euro Danny will be sent to scout in mid-March while Wyc and Co. clean out his office and change the passwords on the computer.
With all this anti-Celticsblog talk, I'm surprised Jerky hasn't resurfaced.
I find it shocking, in general, how many fans are unwilling to take a critical look at the franchise. I mean, it's as if being a fan carries with it an obligation to cut off your critical aparatus and just be a mindless booster. What's the point? I love the Celtics in the way that anyone can love a sports team - that is to say, their ups and downs have some impact on my mood. But that's not "love" in the way that you "love" a person or you "love" banging the old bag. It's far more objective, and just as with politics, dissent is vital. But it's not just on Celticsblog where CelticsDoom'ers and negative people get attacked. It's everywhere Celtics "fans" post on the internet, and for a team that proved last year that they truly, truly suck, it's an incredible phenomenon.
I'd rather read a blog about myassholestnxduzyrs?'s wife than another Celtics blog. CelticsDoom is all we need right now. And if the Celtics win the championship, I will make my apology to Danny, Doc, and Wyc right fucking here. And I think there's a pretty good chance of it with Telfair running the point (do the C's uniforms have pockets for cellphones) and Big Al, and Perk inside...just kidding.
In case the administration does read this, though, I have a great idea for a Celtics promotion:
Be Brian Scalabrine For A Night!
One lucky winner each game gets to wear Scal's uniform and sit on the end of the Celtics bench for the fourth quarter of every game. Scal can go sit in the winner's seat or he can go compare his breasts with those of the Fucking Dance Team.
Or here's another one. Win BrokeBassy Telfair's Gun! Every night one lucky winner wins a loaded handgun and a sportsbag, personally signed by the Celtics new, really-great-guy-and-nice-kid, point guard.
Hey, I was just thinking, I think Celts Fans are really going to like Leon Powe (seriously, I do). Wouldn't it be a great publicity move to do something to keep his name out there while he tries to "earn minutes" behind the great Scal. Here's my plan: Let's rename the Fucking Dance Team (it wasn't that good of a name anyhow) to Powe's Hoes!
Sorry. Too much time on my hands today.
Chuckle.
All the above points are good ones. I wonder if there's another fan base out there where optimism is a demand like with the Celtics. This is the only site where there's anything resembling a rational discussion of the good and the overwhelming bad that poisons this franchise
It's impossible to coach this game, watch this product on the floor and not come away depressed. There are bits and pieces there - Pierce would be great with a dominant center, which Perkins will never be.
Green has great physical talent, but will he ever overcome being a dolt? Rondo has some skills, but he's also got "Offense by Kendrick Perkins." I shoot the ball better than he does.
So I appreciate the rational points of view on this site. Celtics Blog serves a purpose because everyone needs a good laugh now and then - and there won't be many with this team.
But the end product is worse than it was when Ainge took
Oops.
Final point: This team is more talented and less successful than it was when Ainge took over.
The answer to the question "Why?" is what troubles me the most.
Anyway, Celtics Pride has been killed by a succession of idiots on the bench and in the front office. And I see no immediate signs of a revival.
More physically talented, that is.
Hard to blog and work at the same time.
Some people need to cool it on the pity parade a little bit. Celtsblog is preventing the Celtics from improving? really? Anyone who believes that is a fucking idiot.
I'm not happy with 40 wins either, but that's not celticsblog's or jeff's fault. If you don't like a website, don't go to it. All the complaints about Jeff are pathetic - celticsblog is his site and he can run it as he pleases.
Furthermore, there is nothing less interesting than hearing bloggers badmouth each other. this isn't celticsblogdoom or jeffsdoom. we come here to talk about the celtics, not to hear pissants complain about how they were kicked out of a club because they couldn't behave.
jesus...
Is that you, Jeff?
Powe's Ho's... hahahahhaa. His ACL isn't the only thing that's been blown.
That's a great point, JJ, about the Celtics being more talented but less succesful. If that isn't an indictment of Coc Rivers, what is?
my great prediction for this season is that the minute I sink the big $ into league pass, the Celtics will reaquire Waltah and start him and Scalaburine.
Also, from Chantal's (Wyc-ette) official online bio: "my all-time favorite (book) is The Unbearable Lightness of Being by Milan Kundera, I think Kundera and I share the same soul and this book is the song it sings."
She also lists her hobbies as "Collecting boys :p"(sic)
Willie, are you writing these? Can this possibly not be a parody?
Jungle Jim, nice job setting the world record for most posts on a single thread. I expect at least ten more responding to this comment.
Carry on, soldier.
Chuckle. Hate to disappoint you.
The bottom line is that all this alleged physical talent on the roster still translates into absolute suckitude on the floor.
I see 35 wins as the absolute ceiling for this flawed mess of a roster - and it could be worse if there are any significant (read: Not involving the Mediocre Eight) injuries.
And for the above poster, realism equals failure to behave on that God-forsaken blog. It's what happens when a good thing gets into the hands of a bunch of stormtroopers.
Significant injuries (read: Pierce gets hurt).
Three of Yahoo Sports's so-called experts are predicting Brandon Roy for rookie of the year.
No one picked Rondo or Bassy. Oh yeah, Bassy's not a rookie; he just plays like one.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news...=yhoo&
type=lgns
Nicole's favorite book is Crime and Punishment, her favorite movie is Ivan the Terrible part one, She'd like to move to Mauritania. She also likes to use cocks instead of tampons.
Jesus.
On-line bios for the Stamping Tramps?
That's wonderful. Let's make sure those get in the media guide, further up the page count before those nasty historical Celtics records.
Holy Fucking Shit! Celtics.com has pictures and Bios of all 100 Celtics Fucking Dancers. There's more info about the Fucking Dance Team than about the players. This is shameful. Red is rolling in his newly dug grave.
I love coming over here to counter the ludicrous amount of Koolaid being imbibed on CelticsBlog. It's a nice change of pace.
Jim, good to read you again. You were one of the very few there that could look at the team with an open approach and not drop to your knees in adulation of all things Green.
Good to hear from you again, Scintan. You were a voice of sanity in a wildnerness of hyperbole over there.
Danny has assembled the greatest roster any YMCA league could every gather.
As Pierce said on opening night, "Red was all about winning". In loving memory of Red? I guess Danny never got over getting traded himself.
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