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sorry I haven't been around. The Famous State University I attend part time has a trimester system, and I had a shit ton of stuff to do. But now the panic has passed, papers have been handed in, and I can rejoin you.
And as for my putative gay-porn career as suggested by anon, I assure you all, I'm not gay, it's the guy behind me.
Dr.Chestnutt |
03.19.07 - 8:06 pm | #
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Well, some normalcy returns tonight with a putrid Spurs reversal-quality effort against a bad basketball team without a home.
I don't know if it's a sign of the relative stupidity of the average Celtics fan or the same person's abject desperation, but one fucking victory against a quality team isn't a validation of the Ainge Doctrine, you stupid fucking dipshits.
Reality returns and we move a tiny step closer to Greg Oden or Kevin Durant.
Jungle Jim |
03.19.07 - 10:39 pm | #
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Here's reality.
Pierce is a star. Jefferson is making nice progress.
And the rest of this team sucks ass.
Add Oden or Durant, trade for a veteran PG to help Rondo figure the NBA out - because Doc can't - and add a frontcourt defender, and this team's suddenly pretty good.
We all know how beloved the cliche "stay the course" is these days, don't we?
Drop some damn ballgames and let's see if Ainge and Wycliffe have a ballsack this summer.
Jungle Jim |
03.19.07 - 10:43 pm | #
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15 games left and Milwaukee and Charlotte are dangerously close to Boston in the standings. I think it is unlikely that the Celtics make up four games on either of those teams down the stretch. If they do I will be fucking furious but I am confident that the Celts will finish with the 2nd worst record. If they leapfrog the aforementioned two and also pass Seattle and Portland I'd like to say that I'll never watch the team again - but deep down inside I know I'd be back for more.
Can't Pierce come down with one last case of Odenitis?
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03.20.07 - 1:33 am | #
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Welcome back, Dr. I also got a master's at one of those California State universities. Now I'm a stock boy at a beer store.
Anyhow. It looks like the C's anticipated you last night--22 big minutes for Allan Ray; defense so bad it looked like a NOT/OK layup drill; Perk, Rondo, Telfailure, and West once again showing why it has been so difficult for Danny to "find the right pieces" for a trade, 25-year-old journeyman Tyson Chandler schooling Wilt Jefferson.
But the thing that really bugs me is that after four years of utter incompetence and humiliation, Danny and Doc will still be around next year to reap the benefits of their complete mismanagement of this franchise. The possibility that Greg Oden could land in Danny's lap as a reward for his incompetence really pisses me off.
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03.20.07 - 8:32 am | #
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welcome back Dr. Chestnutt, your fans needed something to read other than my drivel!
still, it is hard for me to believe that you guys don't feel the least bit encouraged by a win over the Spurs - it isn't like it pushed us out of the lottery (the Hornets game proved that) and it has to be a good thing that we played Duncan and the Spurs at their best and took a win in their stadium - even if it is just one win
I don't see how staring down a powerhouse and showing that this team has backbone can be such a bad thing
in fact, I think you see that too, otherwise you wouldn't have wrote "We do have a bunch of guys, however, who might actually be worth watching next year if the best player among them is named Greg Oden."
every once in a while we need a win - otherwise you'd be harping on the negative habits being developed - I understand the point about the mental aspect being overrated, but the habits are unmistakable - look no further than Antoine and Paul from the O'Brien era
just my $.02
no worries, the team will continue losing more than it will win - especially when Pierce goes into Operation Shutdown
cheers
Jeff |
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03.20.07 - 9:05 am | #
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If the celtics give up the 2nd worst record in the league I won't watch them until at least Ainge and Doc are fired and most likely not until Wyc sells.
They must do everything in their power to tank and winning a few games is utterly foolish and would be the dumbest thing they could ever do.
No comment on Ainge getting fined 30,000 thousand? Maybe he's changed from stay the course and this is part of his surge.
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03.20.07 - 9:08 am | #
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there's also the possibility that Doc was trying to tank the Spurs game but is such a dipshit that he even fucked that up.
willie |
03.20.07 - 9:13 am | #
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The rumblings are out there that a surge is under way, I think: The post-deadline comments about laying the foundation for summertime trades, the Durant shadowing, et al.
But ... all those changes are going to require one likely tacit admission from Ainge and Syc: THE YOUTH MOVEMENT FAILED.
A real "Japanese bomb Pearl Harbor" conclusion to anyone who understands basketball, but it's gonna destroy the Internet "Danny and Wyc Alibi Club" cottage industry.
I am cautiously optimistic that the sheer proximity of improvement - draft pick, veteran PG, veteran inside defender - may cut through the substantial stupidity that has governed this franchise since Syc and the banker boys bought in.
But I'm gonna have to see it to believe it.
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As for the Spurs game, I really don't know what to tell anyone who can draw anything - positive or negative - from one solitary basketball game. Team sports are full of aberrations.
The truth is found in the full body of work - and the full body of this team's work is bad with Paul Pierce, absolutely atrocious without it.
No change in the evaluation: Keep Pierce, probably keep Al unless there's a blockbuster trade on the table, and move anyone else who can fetch the veteran help we need.
That's going to be a fairly select group: Green, Rondo, West, Perkins, the rotting, fetid corpse of Theo, Wally if the other GM is drunk.
Ray, Powe, Kandi and Allen are going to be absolutely worthless on the trade market.
Jungle Jim |
03.20.07 - 1:20 pm | #
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JJ - "normalcy returns tonight with a putrid Spurs reversal-quality effort against a bad basketball team without a home." I'm still laughing at that. And I agree, in some sense the team can't help but improve, but rising up from these ashes into what exactly? The seventh seed? 43-39? Terrific.
Willie, I still don't know what to think about the Ainge fine. On one hand, it's classic Danny Liar. On the other hand, at least he's working. And in America. My bigger fear is that he actually likes Durant more than Oden, and if we got the #1 it would be a big decision for him to make. I've seen Durant play more than any other of the putative top 5 picks, and I have to say, I'd rather have a big man like Oden. PS - Herzog festival going on all weekend up the street from me. WH is going to be there introducing new prints of all the big hits.
Jeff - thanks man. I'm not such a cranky-pants that I didn't like seeing the C's beat the Spurs, I just don't think it meant much of anything. To me, the more encouraging sign is that they've played slightly sub-500 ball since Pierce has returned, beating the teams they should (NY, the Bucks, etc). But to what extent should we be encouraged? They got beat twice by the Bulls and humiliated at home against Houston. These are middle of the pack playoff teams. I think it's fair to say that barring Oden or some kind of truly signficant trade (which I don't think they can pull off), this team at best becomes the 7th seed next season. And then what? We have no more ability to improve via draft picks, Ainge makes another heart-in-yr-throat trade like the Bassy debacle, and we spend two more years of "we need to surround Pierce with better players" spin from the front office. And lest any of us forget, the impending disaster of re-signing guys like Gomes and Delonte to long term deals, that will shatter the perceived "flexibility" that Ainge has supposedly given us. So yes, I'm happy they beat the Spurs. I'd be even more happy if they lost every game from here on out and we entered the lottery having done everything we can do to aquire a true franchise player.
Anon - I totally agree. The ugly side of getting Oden or Durant is that Coc gets an extension and Danny's "vision" is perceived of as ratified. By the way, is the beer store accepting applications?
Dr.Chestnutt |
03.20.07 - 1:37 pm | #
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I agree, Doc. Neither Greg Oden or Kevin Durant is going to produce a Bird-like 32-win improvement next year - if we don't get them some help.
Al still couldn't stop Stephen Hawking's drop step. West has no right hand. Green can't dribble at all. Rondo can't shoot. Gomes is undersized. Perkins should be encouraged to NEVER touch the ball on the offensive end.
And now Tony Allen has two knees to match his rap sheet - long and bad. Sebustian Telfailure should be waived immediately. The others aren't worth mentioning.
You add Oden or Durant to this mess, and you've got about 35 wins next year.
Jungle Jim |
03.20.07 - 1:52 pm | #
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Couldn't agree more. I don't want even one more win, and I don't understand the people who say things like, "well i can't root for them to lose." It's easy!
But do we really think that if we do get oden/durant, that automatically means that danny and doc are back? maybe danny will stay, but i think al jefferson's progress has more to do with that than does our draft position. but does anyone think that getting oden somehow validates doc's performance? oden, in a sense, immediately makes us a "legitimate" team, and doesn't that mean we need a legitimate coach? it seems like doc has always been sold as a teaching/growing/young-guys-learning-the-ropes type of guy, which is a backhanded compliment that basically says he wouldn't be up to the task of handling a competent and mature team. i hope this is how danny is thinking about things.
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03.20.07 - 2:12 pm | #
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I tend to agree that a new coach makes a big difference but I still believe that Oden or Durant plus a semi-healthy year of this current cast is at least a 15 game improvement - but that isn't good enough for me either! - I want it all - so I want what you guys want, a good trade (and no, I'm not sold on the fact that Danny can make that deal)
anyway, I'll shut up now, take care guys
Jeff |
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03.20.07 - 2:22 pm | #
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If we get Oden, then all is not lost. We still need a PG, but maybe that's when a "Delonte and future #1 for Andre Miller" trade becomes tenable. Durant, on the other hand, I don't think is a difference maker in his first pro year. He needs to put on weight and get his body into 82 game shape. It seems everytime I see him on ESPN they're talking about how fatigued he is. Plus, he's the kind of guy that Coc would just love to bench.
Oden, Pierce, West, Wally and Big Al? 45 wins maybe. Depends. Coc would make them a lottery team, but if Wally gets put on the bench and we get a lockdown defender type on the wing (or Inmate #42 on ADD meds), I could see them taking the 6th or 7th seed. Frankly, at this point, even I would be happy with that. Setting the bar as high as reaching the Finals in the Ainge era is a fools errand. I'm embarassed I ever thought it was possible (see 2004).
I guess my biggest fear with Oden is that eventually we'll hear things like, "Oden's window is closing and he's still never been surrounded with the kind of talent needed to win in the NBA. But Wyc Grousbeck has yet again assembled one hell of a dance squad."
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03.20.07 - 3:42 pm | #
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"And head coach Doc Rivers, entering his fourteenth season as Celtics coach with a career record of 299-849, said that in order to give the ten year veteran Oden a rest, he was tinkering with the idea of going "small" at the very first game of the season.
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03.20.07 - 6:08 pm | #
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"...Ainge insists that trading Oden to Mexico City for the veteran Brian Scalabrine is a sideways trade."
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03.20.07 - 9:06 pm | #
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"Oden, 33, was traded to the Miami Heat for Qyntel Woods II, Aloysious Borchardt, 17 second round draft picks and the draft rights to 77-year-old Tiago Splitter, entering his 50th year in the Italian League.
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03.20.07 - 10:50 pm | #
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Danny Ainge entering year 14 of his rebuilding plan and commenting on his vision says "It takes more than draft picks to build a winner, you need luck and balls, I can't seem to pull my balls out of Wyc's mouth however. We really need a point guard and a wing player to open of the interior of Oden so I'm trading our number one pick for Sebastian Telfair who in his 14th season has finally matured and will give us veteran help in the backcourt."
Celticsblog rejoices and claims that those nattering nebobs of negativity that don't see the masterplan behind Kasparov Ainge are fools.
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03.20.07 - 11:35 pm | #
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In his 17th year as Boston GM, Danny Ainge's Celtics win their first playoff series in their drive to bring banner #17 to the rafters of Joseph Smith Garden. "This has been my plan since I arrived here. I've called it my '2020 Vision' to win a championship in the year 2020, and it's working exactly according to my plan," Ainge wrote on the Legal Seafood CelticsBlog at www.celtics.com.
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03.21.07 - 7:53 am | #
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"The 2019 season will be the first that the NBA awards its new 'Danny Ainge Memorial Cranial Rectumitis Award.' The award fetes the NBA executive whose combination of draft picks, trades and free agent signings dive-bombed his club into contention for the #1 draft pick. The award, a bronze likeness of Sebastian Telfair known as 'The Blogo,' is a commissioned artwork from the Wyc Grousbeck Art and Dance Studio."
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03.21.07 - 8:39 am | #
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lol @ Legal Seafood
by 2020 I'll be pretty old, maybe by then I'll be as bitter as Peter May and you guys will actually like me 
Jeff |
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03.21.07 - 8:39 am | #
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On the domestic front, the Old Bag became the first volunteer for a head transplant as a means of improving both her looks and intelligence. She was also seen at the hospital rubbing an unknown substance on her chest as a way to grow monstrous tits, to which a doctor wryly noted "Why don't you try toilet paper, look what it did for your ass."
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Next to retarded in the dictionary there should be a Celtics logo. 54-39 at the half, 13-18 combined shooting from Pierce and Jefferson. Meanwhile the Bobcats have half their team sitting out and Matt freaking Carrol played 20 first half minutes. I'm thinking of having a Spencer Hawes Celtics jersey custom made now just to get it over with.
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03.21.07 - 8:48 pm | #
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Somebody spoke too soon!
EJ |
03.21.07 - 10:58 pm | #
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Nice 31-5 run there.
So, the daycare lovers will have you believe that was intentional.
Or maybe the daycare isn't worth a fuck.
Anyone still want to blather on about beating the Spurs?
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03.21.07 - 11:36 pm | #
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Doc did his best coaching job in two (or is it three by now?) years by benching Pierce & Jefferson in 4th. What were those players bitching about - it's not easy to tank as a coach, and Doc ought to be congratulated for it. It was a sweet, sweet loss.
As for those fucking ping-pong balls, what are the odds we land the 1 or 2? I remember wondering why everyone, including Pitino, got excited about getting Duncan, when the odds were like what, 36% or something?
So, Jackie McMullen says in that case trade Jefferson/West for a vet like Garnett for a shot at the title "now". I don't even want to think about it.
Good jokes about the old bag and the beer-stocking job. I'm going for a masters at age 50 at a famous Cambridge School that trades on its name to crunch money out of clueless night students and my prediction is I'll end making less money at the end of the day due to age discrimination and an aversity to management. If the beer-stocking job falls through, how about security guard? I hear its an up-and-coming profession.
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