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Dr. Forbush, for argument's sake, let's say that you're right and that the "anti-abortion folks" really are not pro-life.
So what! What does that have to do with the morality of abortion?
Either abortion is the killing of unborn human person, or it is not. Whether you think my position on a whole host of other political positions is inconsistent with my anti-abortion stance is irrelevant to the personhood of the unborn.
It may make you feel better to try to pick apart the inconsistencies of pro-lifers, but it does nothing to support the argument that abortion should be legal.
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07.25.05 - 11:29 am | #
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That statement puts you into the extremist catagory. More than 2/3rds of Americans disagree with that position. That's what the difference is. The moderates are willing to agree with being pro-life, because that has a warm fuzzy feeling to it. However, most radical anti-abotion people are not truly pro-life as I have shown. Moderates should know the truth before they sign up...
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07.25.05 - 11:43 am | #
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"That statement puts you into the extremist catagory."
Presumably, you are referring to my statement that "either abortion is the killing of an unborn human person, or it is not."
How can anyone disagree with that? There is no middle ground. Something is or it isn't. Either Dr. Forbush is or a human person, or he is not. It can't be both. That's the principle of non-contradiction.
If abortion does not involve the killing of an human person, it is not immoral and there is no reason that it should be made rare. But if abortion does not involve the killing of a human person then neither does infanticide, and the only reason for opposing infanticide is because it doesn't give one a "warm fuzzy feeling." I prefer to think that there is a more principled reason for opposing infanticide. Namely, that a baby is a human person deserving of the law's protection. It is absurd to think that the law should protect a baby outside of the womb, but not a moment before, when the baby was inside the womb (or even partially inside the womb).
William Bloomfield |
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07.25.05 - 4:08 pm | #
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Your finger is either your whole self or it isn't! Right! No middle ground I cut off your finger then it is either you or it isn't! You are either dead or your finger isn't you, right!
Dr. Forbush |
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07.25.05 - 4:18 pm | #
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How do you do it day after day Dr. Forbush? He's so slow that there isn't a chance you could reach someone like him. And yet with the patience of Job, you re-explaining the same simplistic points that my 2 year old could understand intuitively to him over and over again. He answers all your kindness and respect, with his hate and ignorance. He's obviously not a brother in Christ, so why do you extend to him such a courtesy? He's actually rapidly approaching the 343 barrier as well, so even if you decided to extend the courtesy, it will be breeched as well. At what point do just write him off as a lost cause and stop responding, or even better just ban him?
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07.26.05 - 9:38 am | #
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Jamison,
Thanks for the kind comment. I can only hope that the moderates and the people who haven't picked a side can look at a debate like this and realize what a rational law would look like and what a radical law would look like. In this way the people will support rational behaviour and recognize the lies that come from radicals who have ulterior motives.
Dr. Forbush |
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07.26.05 - 10:01 am | #
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I'm amused that Jamison thinks my posts are filled with ignorance and hate. I can somewhat understand a charge of ignorance, since differing views often appear "ignorant." But hateful? In all of my posts on this site (and on my own), I have conducted the debate in the most civil of tones.
Jamison may rest assured, however, my differing thoughts on this site will not bother him again.
William Bloomfield |
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